No it isn’t. It’s the word for “nation.” In Hebrew it’s used to refer to the people of other nations. It’s not a slur any more than “foreigner” is a slur. It can be used in a derogatory manner at times, like almost any phrase taking about other people, but it’s a pretty simple concept.
Epstein had a ton of non-Jewish clientele. Are you lumping all Jews in with Epstein now?
And gee, I don’t know, maybe due to centuries of discrimination and persecution with a body count of our people in the millions upon millions makes us a little more insular. We literally weren’t allowed out of ghettos for centuries (look up where the word ghetto came from) and when we were we faced massive discrimination.
No im not lumping all Jews with epstein. I'm saying that he's a racial supremacist for your race. You don't seem willing to admit that racial supremacists for your race exist. Can you at least do that?
Just because some people use it that way doesn't mean every single Jewish person in the entire world does. And I never said that. And it's crazy to imply I did.
You’re claiming “goy” is a slur and is used by Jewish people widely as a slur now. You’re trying to claim there’s nothing antisemitic about this video and shirt. And yet you have no evidence.
I said nothing about the video. Yes, some Jewish people use the word Goy as a slur. Not all of them. Some people are bad people, including some Jewish people. If you want to live in a fantasy world where all Jewish people are perfect and have never done anything wrong I can't stop you, but saying no one uses the word Goy as a slur for gentiles is factually incorrect.
It's different. Israel is a Jewish supremacist state and one of the words they have co-opted to describe the gentiles/non Jews who they slaughter wholesale is Goys. The primary users of the word are literally accused of a genocide by the UN and other bodies who specifically were made to decide such things. It's a slur.
You literally made all this shit up or someone else fid and you just repeat it. Its so funny when people that never stepped a foot in Israel or took the time to dig into the matter comment bullshit with such confidence.
Etymology isn't relevant when discussing if something is a slur. N word literally just means "black". Is there any other word used to describe an outgroup that the members of said outgroup aren't allowed to use for themselves or to find offensive?
Are you aware of how “goy” is being used by Neo-Nazis and Groypers and how this AIslop is created by those people to push their antisemitism? The only people I see offended by the word are antisemites pushing conspiracy theories.
1) the word is initially used not as a slur
2) Jewish supremacists used it as a slur
3) People on the internet reclaimed the slur
4) youre offended because you never used it as a slur
Plus, all groypers want is ethnic security for white people. Isn't that what israel and zionism is for, ethnic security? I'm offended at both, are you?
Sorry, what’s your evidence for 2? And “people on the internet“ who “reclaimed it” are Nazis and white supremacists. Funny how you’re sticking up for them. Is it because you agree with their hatred of Jews?
Groypers are hatful people who promote violence. The history of Zionism is a group persecuted and murdered seeking some control over their own destiny after being shown repeatedly that Jews could not rely on any other group to provide actual security and safeguard rights. Given your attitude towards Jews you’re just making the point and showing why it’s still a concern.
We’re an ethnicity, not a race. “White” for example, is a meaningless category that expands or contracts as needed. Jews, for example, are white when convenient for the argument or non-white as needed. So making racist claims like defending the 14 words is not the same as a persecuted group looking for ways to ensure safety and protect their beliefs and traditions.
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u/Reds_Strongest_Chef 13h ago
Antisemitism is when you oppose genocide.