r/aislop • u/Individual-Sell-7022 • 1d ago
Found on Facebook Unhinged shit 😂😂😂
Here's the text that accompanied the slop on Facebook:
"Men in the Modern World are NOT REAL MEN no more. It's like a POISON in the AIR or WATER that contaminates the population.
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The REAL ANCIENT MEN has zero problems with SUBMISSIVE WOMEN. Personally I have no problems, and all the VALUABLE men have no problems.
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Men will FAIL once he tries to combine the BIBLICAL KINGDOM with the MODERN WORLD of VANITY and PERVERSION.
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Example ANDREW TATE and men like him, they START off good, but eventually they FALL, because LIGHT and DARKNESS have NO FELLOWSHIP.
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Obviously it takes PURE WOMEN in combination with RIGHTEOUS MEN to complete this equation. This does not work with a SEXUAL WOMAN or a CORRUPTED MAN.
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There is a separation between a SIMP and a GENTLEMEN. You can use JAMES BOND as an example of a MASCULINE GENTLEMAN.
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MEN control the WORLD, but WOMEN control the SOCIETY.
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The WORLD is a GARDEN.
The SOCIETY is the FLOWERS.
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Both GARDEN and FLOWERS need each other to FUNCTION properly.
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FOLLOW CHRIST AND GOD'S KINGDOM, AND YOU WILL BE UNTOUCHABLE UPON THE EARTH."
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u/jreashville 1d ago
Modern looks more fun TBH
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u/gofishx 1d ago
Who doesn't love a dommy mommy?
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u/Cultural-Welcome8911 1d ago
I mean at least the modern one looks like he gets to sit down sometimes
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u/mercuriokazooie 1d ago
These chuds literally cannot fathom marriage as a partnership between two people that love and care for each other. It MUST be status symbol and an ownership dynamic to them.
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u/MidnightIAmMid 1d ago
Yeah, I like literally never see them talk about a marriage where the two people are equal partners taking on life together as friends and equals.
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u/No-Jellyfish-1208 1d ago
Modern marriage doesn't really look like this anyway... but even then, how come it's expected of a woman to submit but expecting the same from a man isn't okay? XD
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u/BigPapaS53 1d ago
Thousand year old book said so.
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 1d ago
But the thousands years old book also says “husbands are commanded to love and sacrifice for their wives just as Christ loved the church” and “Husbands are told to live with their wives in an understanding way and to show them honor as co-heirs of the grace of life”. They kinda ignore that parts
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u/BigPapaS53 1d ago
I mean I also couldn't find the part where gays and brown ppl are exempt from "love your neighbour"
I guess it's a complex decision which parts you follow and which not (you pick the parts you like)
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 1d ago
And prostitutes or basically anyone else. They would hate Jesus lol.
True
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u/FumiPlays 1d ago
Jesus was middle eastern, they would have ICE put him in a camp or flat out shoot him.
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u/Fun_in_Space 1d ago
Jesus didn't "love the church", since there was no such thing at the time. He was an observant Jew and would have gone to the temple.
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u/Seraphina_Renaldi 1d ago
Many Bible parts are metaphors and shouldn’t be understood literally
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u/Fun_in_Space 1d ago
You are changing the subject. What metaphor are you referencing?
If Jesus existed, he could not have expressed support for churches, if they had not been invented yet.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago
Kind of funny that the old persistant jokes about how sex ends with marriage are still pretty prominent.
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u/Shuttleboo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Christian-coated incel slop again?
And ofc they cherry-picked with KJV
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u/WittyPin207 1d ago
This is (part of) why I left Christianity. Too many medicore men use this to think they deserve power
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u/YellowSub888 1d ago
Yeah, I am not religious either even though grew up Orthodox Christian. I have personal relationship with God and no one will convince me religion is not a tool to manipulate us.
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u/Affectionate_Past568 1d ago
People get called “simp” and it’s for the most mundane shit 😭
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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 1d ago
Weren't that "simp" is also in the bible? I mean respecting your wife
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u/ShockNoodles 1d ago
At this point, that word is about as effective as a screen door on a submarine.
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u/Ok-Explanation-7977 1d ago
Maybe i will downvoted but i think in a marriage no one should bow to anyone
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u/Pure-Confusion2442 1d ago
Or maybe sometimes to the dommy mommy
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u/Own_Proposal955 1d ago
I mean, I think that’s literally the belief of the vast majority of the commenters, that relationships are equal partnerships of love not of dominance and submission, so why would you get downvoted? Some people are joking about dommy mommies but other than that the whole point of the post is people agree with your point.
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u/Sovonna 1d ago
This makes me sad. Humanity has been around roughly (VERY roughly) 300,000 years, and that is modern humans, like us. There were other human species in Europe and Asia that we interbred with after we left Africa that were around a lot longer than that.
Jesus was said to have been born roughly 2,000 years ago. For most of human history, God as we understand him today did not exist.
I am not an expert, but I love history. My understanding is that humans have been so successful because we can be so different and work together. We're the Swiss army knife of the animal kingdom. If a woman was really good at hunting it made no sense to prevent her from doing so. If a man was really good at gathering or watching kids, why prevent him from doing that? It makes no sense from a survival perspective. My understanding is this is why things like autism and ADHD exist. A child who can't sit still in the past would have been handed a spear. An autistic person who's special interests was plants would remember which ones were safe to eat and which ones were poison much better than the average person.
Submitting is not why we are here. We evolved to work together. You can't work together if half of your population is submitting to the other half. It's not in our nature to submit, which is why they have to make slop like this. Propaganda is a helluva drug.
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u/soupmelon 1d ago
I believe human beings are a "keystone species" historically for much of our species existence wherever we went biodiversity actually expanded and flourished, we were necessary for life to proliferate. This changed during the agricultural revolution with the invention of land ownership. This, also, is around the time patriarchy is established as men needed to control women's reproduction to ensure that their lands and resources would be passed on to their offspring only. Total fucking mess and we really lost the plot about 10,000 years ago.
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u/Beltalady 13h ago
It is said that ADHDers were the gatherers. Our brains are built for it. Pattern recognition and instant dopamine for finding things. In today's world we are overwhelmed by the constant noise and input and the need to function in a society. ADHD was fine as long as you could afford a maid (looking at you, grandma).
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u/ArtemisiaOrthia 1d ago
It's in my nature to submit, sometimes! Jokes aside, I agree wholeheartedly. This is nonsense.
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u/Annual_Beginning_600 1d ago
The idea of god has indeed evolved quite a lot and continues to do so (and will in the future). Even within one religion alone this is seen.
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u/CommercialMotor570 1d ago
I will never understand why people want a marriage where either dominates. Would it not be better to be in a marriage where you both just… idk, love each other?
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u/Recent-Sale7371 1d ago
They’re not capable of love, all relationships are power battles to these people.
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u/Own_Proposal955 1d ago
Exactly! I want nothing to do with dominance or submission in my relationship. I want to be too kindred spirits who found each other in the void and live together.
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u/Aggressive-North9749 1d ago
Is this why they hate the word "partner" so much, they can't envision being with someone their equal?
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u/Mandy_M87 1d ago
Never thought of it that way, but it could be at least part of the reason, as it kind of implies that they are equals.
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u/Chevanalee 1d ago
Religious conservatives: why are so many young people turning away from the church?
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u/Applesplosion 23h ago
Trust me on this, a lot of men would prefer the second one.
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u/Feeling-Ruin-8008 22h ago
I always look at these sloppy memes with that thought in mind lmao, like nah this is better.
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u/Infinitedeveloper 18h ago
Im more an equal partnership kinda guy but id try anything once.
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u/SoybeanArson 17h ago
Some of us are an equal in the streets and a simp in the sheets. 😂
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u/BabylonPhoenix 1d ago
I dont want to be obeyed like a slave master, i just want happiness dawg. And not no trad shit
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u/PeyredB 1d ago
Hang on, as I recall, the model for biblical marriage in the Old Testament was polygamy. Aren't these guys big on the Old Testament?
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u/Own_Proposal955 1d ago
Don’t give them ideas. I’ve heard some of them trying to insist women need to accept being one of many wives (but devoted only to their shared husband) and that it’ll save society or that men are incapable of true happiness in a monogamous relationship. None of this is really supported by psychology or other areas of study
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u/TSJormungandr 1d ago
Give them time. They’ll be all about polygamy in a few years. They’ll move us right back to 3000 years ago flat earth and all.
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u/misterguyyy 1d ago
Every time I go on Facebook I get pro-polygamy AI slop making this exact argument. I wish people would hurry up and move their events/groups off that platform already.
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u/Substantial_Force658 1d ago
Dude on the left looks like a weirdo, cosplaying as King David.
Couple on the right look like they are about to have a lot of fun, and well deserved.
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u/Hopefullytodaymate 1d ago
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it.
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u/dkcarpenter 1d ago
Yes, I love how women are not property anymore. Advancement is an amazing thing
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u/Malay_Left_1922 1d ago
Modern marriage is equality not women > men
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u/NoPath_Squirrel 16h ago
It's a zero sum game for these idiots. They think if the man isn't in charge, the woman must be. Equals isn't even something they can comprehend.
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u/Belz_Zebuth 1d ago
It's true, no marriage has ever been between equals. /s
What a bunch of insecure neanderthals.
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u/Dajmibuzi_dzieki 1d ago
“MEN control the WORLD, but WOMEN control the SOCIETY.”
So women get to control all this? Cool.
society
/səˈsīədē/
A society is a group of people living together in a structured community, sharing a specific territory, culture, and regular interactions.
Core Elements of a Society
Shared Territory: Members typically live within a definable geographic or social space.
Culture and Norms: People share a common language, values, traditions, and unwritten rules (norms) that guide daily behavior.
Social Institutions: Organized systems like family, education, government, economy, and religion help the group function and survive.
Cooperation: Members work together or engage in sustained relationships to gain mutual benefits that individuals cannot achieve alone.
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u/ShockNoodles 1d ago
I can't be the only guy that thinks that model of hierarchy is off putting. I mean, am I marrying an actual person with their own mind, ambitions and personality, or am I marrying a dog?
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u/Gravedigger30 1d ago
No, your not. I find it extremely creepy and would be extremely uncomfortable if any woman in my life acted like that to me.
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u/No-Bison5915 1d ago
Men who have neither personality, nor money, nor looks are heavily distraught with a fact that they aren’t longer needed just for their gender
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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 1d ago
People really need to larp on bible just to defend their "beliefs or how marriage should work" but they're more like hating women and wanted to submit them but that's not what bible said from what I remember, this is not how it works but husbands should also respect their wives
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u/YellowSub888 1d ago
In any world religion women are subordinates to men. Bible is not exclusive. Even Buddhist communities don’t allow nuns to higher up positions 🙄 though originally Buddha was all about equality and eternal love for all
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u/SalmonPrince 1d ago
Make it MORE obvious your religion was invented for men to control women.
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u/Old-Wolverine-3407 1d ago
Oh well, religion or the "bible" did contain misogyny
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u/SalmonPrince 1d ago
Yeah that's my point: both testaments of the Bible are riddled with misogyny. It's transparently obvious that "God" is just men wanting to consolidate and gatekeep power.
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u/Sharkwatcher314 1d ago
Interesting usually when they post the woman they are denigrating she’s unattractive in these aislop pics
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u/Anneofclevesftw 1d ago
They hate that women can have jobs and bank accounts now. Marriage is optional, they could make themselves desirable partners but they would rather enslave women for companionship.
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u/Annual_Beginning_600 1d ago
If you want one without these, it isn't hard. That's why we see passport bros.
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u/YellowSub888 1d ago
That’s why I have personal relationship with God, you don’t have to be part of shitty religions to have faith in God. In my book God does not have gender. God is not our father or our mother. God is universe, nature, science. It doesn’t have a form that we can comprehend. God made all of us conscious and capable. Women were never meant to be subordinates to men. We were all made to love and help each other, to procreate for those who have it in them to be a parent, to explore the world and its beauty. To co-exist and to hold each other accountable.
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u/No_Vast_3309 1d ago
Modern Marriege is a partnership and who cares if a man submits to his wife. In a playful way
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u/Fishbone345 1d ago
> Personally I have no problems, and all the VALUABLE men have no problems.
LMFAO!!! Sure buddy. You have no problems, which is why you spend so much time thinking about it?
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u/johnb300m 1d ago
If the man is the head, then the woman is the neck. She can turn the head any way she wants.
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u/Certain_Raspberry58 1d ago
Ephesians 5:25 " Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her" I.e. be willing to sacrifice yourself like jesus, dying on a cross...
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u/catchmesleeping 1d ago
This coming from a group that always gets caught with porn stars and prostitutes.
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u/lilacbloomintwilight 1d ago edited 1d ago
technically the man is not the master. in more traditional relationships he might be considered the "leader" but God has absolute authority and women don't have to accept the leadership of corrupt and abusive men. For most people relationships are a partnership and men/women don't want a partner who always agrees with them an acts like a servant because they get bored and someone who does that resents it over time even if its how they were raised and what partner wants to be with someone who resents them and is unhappy. got to agree that post is some unhinged rage baity troll crap.
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u/AdministrativeFly192 1d ago
We have to realize that these are “momma’s boys”, who are too spoiled to learn to take care of themselves. Because of this they need to have another woman to take care of them because they are incompetent ninnies.
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u/desertguy1961 1d ago
The “modern” version is kinda scary.
But as a man I can understand why it would be a better option for women than “biblical” marriage.
The binary aspect shows a lack of ability to understand nuance. Which explains MAGA.
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u/Own_Proposal955 1d ago
I mean yeah being forced to “submit” and being subjugated by someone who is supposed to love you is terrifying. That’s not what most women want out of a modern marriage though. This poster basically sees women demanding being treated as an equal partner as them subjugating men.
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u/Ok_Archer2362 1d ago
Yet Islam is the religion that subjugates women
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u/EnlightenedOwl31 1d ago
I mean two things can be true at once
Bukhari 2658- The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Bukhari 3237- Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "If a husband calls his wife to his bed (i.e. to have sexual relation) and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning."
Bukhari 5133- Aisha narrated that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Bukhari 7099- During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."
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u/MadAstrid 1d ago
Well, the one on the right this definitely describes “Christian” Kristi Noem’s marriage.
My marriage is a partnership without “master” or “simp”, but I that is because don‘t model my relationships on historic Middle Eastern values or this guys fantasies, so….
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u/Far_Excitement_1875 1d ago
The modern marriage looks way hotter, that guy is exactly where he wants to be.
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u/willow_glade 22h ago
Do they really not get that the "non-biblical" side virtually always looks hot whenever they generate these?
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u/Wench-of-2Many-Hats 1d ago
Both pics sound like a dom/sub relationship but jabroni is trying to pretend wanting a Dommy Mommy is evil using an ancient text like a coward...
Counterpoint to his weak ass bs: God made us and Dommy Mommy makes me go awooga.
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u/DrawingNo519 1d ago
Lets compare Bronze age marriage to modern 21 century marriage because nothing changes in 3000 years
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u/Familiar_Finance_600 1d ago
They don't even teach this at church, ffs. Anything but mutual help, respect and actual partnership! How propostrous! There has to be a fight for power at all times, or god doesn't like it.
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u/AdvancedDream9385 1d ago
Yeah, this totally leaves out the man's responsibilities around his family. The type of man who would be attracted to this would also be the type of man who thinks he's welcome to indulge in wrath without mercy toward his whole family.
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u/neddythestylish 1d ago
> Sex should be within a BIBLICAL MARRIAGE, not between a CORRUPTED MAN and a SEXUAL WOMAN
> James Bond is a good role model for men.
This...
Is...
There is literally no way to make this make sense.
I mean, personally, I find their idea of modern marriage a hell of a lot more appealing than their idea of biblical marriage--you know, if I have to choose between these options and only these options. But my opinion as a woman doesn't count I guess.
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u/corgi_crazy 1d ago
All the people who wrote the bible, translated, add and took books away, translated again just to be misused by incels, can eat my shorts.
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u/demonic-cheese 1d ago
Can I have the marriage that doesn't have black mould creeping up the walls?
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u/Ok-Educator7150 1d ago
This isn't biblical marriage.
“And it shall be at that day,” saith the Lord, “that thou shalt call Me ‘Ishi’ [that is, My husband], and shalt call Me no more ‘Baali’ [that is, My Lord]. Hosea 2:16
There is clearly a difference between master and husband, and husband is to be preferred.
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u/twerk4data 1d ago
Where are all these simpy men willing to get on their knees and submit to me? The men I know are just doing like normal person shit most of the time
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u/assumptionkrebs1990 1d ago
That is quiet a admission they don't dislike the power imbalance, they dislike the perceived role reversel. Or is OOP living out two opposite fantasies here? King in accient time, submissive partner today?
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u/Cinnamoncakess 1d ago
It's so funny they get texts from the bible out of context but keep out the ones saying if men don't treat their wives right won't have even their prayers listen, they don't mention it...
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u/Big-Yak670 1d ago
I love this kind of slop because it showcases that these ppl absolutely know how sexist they're being and also presents an interesting view where their "bad side" seems kinda justified
Like hey if women had to follow so long then why not give em a turn kind of deal.
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u/Professional_Ninja58 1d ago
Wait, is this whackjob saying "Andrew Tate deviated from the true path of subjugating women"?
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u/Aggravating_Duck_192 1d ago
You have a book God wrote? What's it say? That you get to boss me around? Can I see this God? No? Mighty convenient for you then.
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u/HypersomnicHysteric 1d ago
So they think, it is o.k. when a man domiates a woman but not if a woman dominates a man?
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u/WilTravis 1d ago
I can't help but notice God ain't got the balls to come say that to my wife's face.
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u/JHerbY2K 1d ago
I like how both quotes are about the man. It’s all about the man.
Also I’m interested in wife #2
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u/Time_Raisin4935 1d ago
Bible bros obsession with female submission/subservience is sooo weird. Like beyond Demented.
Not to mention insecure AF of them.
Even the Bible is not that obsessed over female submission, considering there are strong-willed biblical Heroines like Deborah (prophetess, judge, army general and warrior woman).
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago
I gaurantee the man on his knees is getting more pleasure than the other side.
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u/dudeguy0119 1d ago
So fucking dumb. How's about both are really unhealthy and toxic relationships. I find if funny how "primitive" cultures see the merit on both men and women and there is an equal partnership, yet the "civilized world" continuously pits both men and women against each other. Fkn laughable.
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u/Cloud_Kitsune111 1d ago
Why can't they both work together equally? So odd that there always has to be a loser who suffers.
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u/Harnellas 1d ago
I wonder what the overlap is on guys who buy into this stuff but also spend tons of money simping on onlyfans.
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u/mASSterMinDLess 1d ago
Well, it's the "same" situation.
The voluntary submission of a man to a woman because he likes it.
And an imposed, almost religious marital slavery for women because - jesus christ love you.
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u/Princess_Parabellum 1d ago
> ANDREW TATE and men like him, they START off good
*citation needed, or maybe a contextual definition of "good."
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u/ashtray-mermaid 1d ago
If women are that fucking bad then just stay single and quit fucking crying about it.
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u/Powerful-Sort7778 1d ago
My simp. Wow so not reality unless you in to that. Lol Do you ever notice these rage bait cartoons only give 2 extreme options???
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u/Coney_the_jumpy 1d ago
1st one: sexism
2nd one: femdom has her beta worship her.
So long as its consensual, the second is better.
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u/RaisinWorried3528 1d ago
Have people even tried submitting to their wives, it was fucking awesome.
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u/Fit_Satisfaction4660 1d ago
Facepalm
What is it with people and miss quoting the Bible nowadays?
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u/SourPatchKidding 1d ago
These guys couldn't lead a kindergarten class to candy. They don't want the burden and responsibility that comes with actually leading a family. T hey just want to feel important and like someone a hot woman would listen to.
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u/Weary_Musician_9612 23h ago
I think Y'all are doing this wrong. We are a couple of whoever's up gets the snacks. Y'all should try that
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u/Which_Accountant_736 22h ago
I like both dynamics, however, I just want someone who wants me and doesn’t betray me.
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u/Ok-Cry7712 20h ago
Technical your women should be your Goddess I say woman cause wife was created by the church not trying to disrespect wife or anything like that the main purpose is creating a single unit 2 become 1 that sort of thing money doesn't really matter as long as the unit remains strong and true but respect one and other nothing comes between the unit not friends or family
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u/Primary_Carrot67 18h ago
This seems like something that would come from a complementarian Christian man who secretly fantasises about femdom.
And James Bond isn't exactly a good example of biblical masculinity or Christian values. He's more of the kind of ideal that Hugh Hefner espoused. He would be a "corrupted man" according to biblical values.
This person is very confused. And probably also very horny.
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u/Main-Procedure-3613 18h ago
You can separate a hypocrite from an authentic disciple of Jesus easily. They avoid the actual sacred example and holy words of Jesus Himself in the easy to access 4 Gospels. They find Jesus’ commands to love one another and care for the poor inconvenient for their unbiblical ungodly unchristian bigotry and hate. You’ll also catch them at the slightest challenge popping off going with a blasphemous insinuation that they know “who’s going to hell” which God consistently declares is for God alone.
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u/Plastic-Egg-2068 12h ago
I always want to ask them if they: don't wear the clothes made of two different kind of threads and if they don't trim they beards in specific ways or don't get tattoos or don't eat shellfish & pork.
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u/NuminousParavant 5h ago
Porn addiction. They think a healthy relationship is about this weird superiority and inferiority, dominance and submission dynamic because that’s what they’re used to seeing in porn.
Here’s a wild concept. Both can lead in their own areas of excellence, both follow when the other knows more than them, both support and cheer each other on.
So glad I don’t follow Abrahamic religion and that me and my man mutually respect each other.
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u/editingisfun4all 49m ago
I love how men cherry pick the Bible. Women are meant to follow the husband that cares for them, that takes care of her, and loves her more than his own self. I would love a husband who cherished me. Men like to act like the Bible says they're supposed to be tyrants with women under their thumbs and that's not true.
"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself" Ephesians 5:25-33
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u/Dragon_wryter 1d ago
Men who believe this crap are so fragile and insecure. I'm embarrassed for them, putting their over-emotional whining out in public like that.