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Magical★Explorer, episode 1
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u/D3k4s 16d ago
Was this Eroge made by Nasu or what?
On a more serious note, seems like a fun one. I laughed when they mentioned how gamers were creating support tickets because they couldn't romance the Witch Of Tsukuyomi. Reminded me of how some people were bitching about the romance choices in KCD2.
The animation seems decent, it won't win any prizes but seems on par with your average Anime.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 15d ago
In his eroge shelf, there's a game made by Type-Sun lol
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
I laughed when they mentioned how gamers were creating support tickets because they couldn't romance the Witch Of Tsukuyomi. Reminded me of how some people were bitching about the romance choices in KCD2.
Honestly what self-respecting eroge doesn't let you hook up with the teacher OR the principal? Especially when you make them so hot?
But I guess that's what makes the MC so special in that he gets closer to them than any player ever has.
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u/copokasasagi 14d ago
on pair with average anime?
you wish!
this shit's great, average anime have maybe half the frames and with worse animations
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u/NevisYsbryd 14d ago
Why Nasu?
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u/D3k4s 14d ago
Type Moon started as an Eroge, because those involved didn't think it would have success otherwise.
When it became clear the franchise wouldn't need any of that they retconned a lot of stuff.
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u/NevisYsbryd 14d ago
I know that. These are stock standard eroge tropes, though, so I was wondering if there were some particulars that would point to Nasu for some specific reason.
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u/Diego237 15d ago
Should've figured they wouldn't go full ecchi considering the PVs, the staff, and the lack of warnings/multiple versions. Having the setting revolve around an eroge and having lots of fanservice should be a sign to spice it up but oh well.
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u/gc11117 15d ago
Its weird, because crunchy gave it an 18+ rating which they've only ever done with shows that show nips. This might be their first show with that rating that doesnt.
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u/Diego237 15d ago
Maybe they just didn't realize it wouldn't be 18+ in reality but there are other anime that don't show them despite Crunchyroll giving them the 18+ rating/warnings. Goblin Slayer also didn't show nips but it's content is does warrant warnings.
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u/gc11117 15d ago
Interesting. So far this year I would say Kanan-Sama has had more extreme content than this, and still only pulled a 16 rating which is why I expected them to do actual nudity in this one. Sort of like how Dura from last season, was relatively tame but had nipples on the snake lady so it instantly got the 18+.
It could be the attempted sexual assault. Both Goblin Slayer and this had it. Maybe thats an instant 18+ for crunchy
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u/Diego237 15d ago
There's likely not a set precedent. 16+ anime can be turned 18+ but if they already labeled an anime with sexual tendencies 18+, then why change it. 100 Girlfriends is also 16+ like Kanan-sama and is also more extreme than Magical Explorer's anime.
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u/Mediocre-Act483 3d ago
Oh yeah. Especially with the first half of S2 Ep3 when Kurumi and Karane are breast-feeding. Or when Hakari had Karane's face between her thighs. Or with a girlfriend that'll appear in S4 which I will give no further details on
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u/Xosimos_ 15d ago
Goblin Slayer received a lot of backlash after the first episode aired. It was originally labeled as PG and people were outraged, so they had to put warnings at the start of the episode and change it's rating.
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u/Mistral-Fien 15d ago
Itsuka Shidou's (Date A Live MC) VA is the perfect choice for the protagonist. :D
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
Imagine if he actually got a selection of choices for what to say/do with the ladies lol.
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
Shidou never gets to choose though, especially as he'd always make the limpest choices lol That's why we leave such things in the hands of Kotori and the crew of the Fraxinus!
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u/Kadmos1 15d ago
If any of the seiyuu for his harem appear in this show, that would be something.
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u/Mistral-Fien 15d ago
Sadly, no. The closest would be Yukine's VA (Saori Oonishi) who played the White Queen in the Date A Bullet spinoff.
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
Really?! Ahh, that's a shame. I love his performance as Shidou but in the first episode this MC just felt really uninteresting to listen to. Maybe he just needs the Heroines to start appearing before he gets a bit more lively.
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u/Mistral-Fien 13d ago
I've heard much worse-- the protagonist of Mahou Sensou (Magical Warfare) sounds listless and uninspired, a complete waste of Mamoru Miyano's (Light Yagami from Death Note, Rintaro Okabe from Steins;Gate) talent.
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u/alotmorealots 13d ago
Oh definitely. Not so much that it was a terrible performance, just I would have just assumed that https://myanimelist.net/people/10989/Nobunaga_Shimazaki could have carried the first episode on his voice alone if required lol Luckily he's given more room to move in the second episode, which turned out to be a lot more lively.
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u/CerberusZX https://myanimelist.net/profile/CerberusZX 15d ago
That line about how audiences would riot if the best friend character hooked up with one of the girls reminded me of the Reverse Collapse review bombing. Dataminers found that an upcoming event for Girls Frontline 2 had a character talk to a man that is not the protagonist. Even though all they did was chat, the Chinese playerbase was furious. When the event released, the character had been changed to a woman. This did not stop droves of players from buying Reverse Collapse (the newest release from the developer at the time) for the sole purpose of leaving a negative reviews saying the company supports cuckoldry.
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u/PsychologicalBus7336 13d ago
Lol, that's funny. And I'm sure anime/manga/novel fans would do the same thing if the same situation arose in this story, lol. Fans use the word "ntr" all the time.
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u/SecretYogurtcloset57 16d ago
Reborn as a side character in a eroge game isn't so bad after all lol
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u/DimmyHerm 15d ago
Well, it's not a mob character, so there's some leeway. Usually games of this type are tough on mobs. Ask Leon Bartford; he'd know.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 14d ago
Leon is in an otome game. Kou is at least in an eroge so the world is giving him a break
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u/testthrowawayzz 15d ago
The scarf is so versatile, that it can grab things.
"MC" a bit chuuni, fitting for Kaido Shun's voice.
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u/YdenMkII 15d ago
Huh the setup of having the unromancable options from the game to be people living with the support character is an interesting choice. So the support friend is having his own harem game going on behind the scenes?
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u/Ralathar44 6d ago
I think rather its that the MC is already subtly changing the storyline. The original sidekick character clearly had a different personality if he was driving away women. And alot of trauma the eroge never went into full detail on. He was prolly a damaged person self sabotaging his own happiness after never recovering from his trauma and pushing others away.
But the MC isekai'd in doesn't have that baggage so he's getting different results.
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u/KumaKumaGambler 16d ago
If the main heroines aren't available routes for the sidekick friend character, Marino, her daughter (based on her split second preview appearance) and Claris are equally good, if not better, options!
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u/oxlemf10 16d ago
After watching so many visual novel isekais, this one is definitely different, not just because it's based on an eroge, but also because it doesn't make the protagonist an overpowered guy who attracts everyone overnight. Hope this is good.
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u/DeathInFire https://myanimelist.net/profile/Insomnium19 15d ago
It was so strange. They woke in an unfamiliar place and used logic to piece things together instead of just acting like a 12 year old. They even gave some depth to the character that was previously unknown to the mc with the phone story. Seems like a fun watch.
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u/ghaelon 15d ago
that is one thing that annoys me, where the reincarnation bit might as well not be there, except where its a cheat code. tensei kizoku is one that does it well, he has the stamina of a kid, but hes reading and writing like instantly.
seen quite a few where you could just cut out the reincarnation part entirely and you wouldnt notice the difference~
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u/GlorylnDeath 14d ago
I mean, the exposition tells us that, but then immediately shows him being overpowered and attracting everyone overnight...
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 14d ago
Ye like. He's not maybe OP to the max but Kou is definitely strong. He has some downsides like no emission magic aptitude but he makes up for it with other stuff. He's bottomline strong
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u/Ralathar44 6d ago
Not overpowered. That fight was won via 3 people teamwork. He was capable of taking them out and defending them but on his own they'd have literally been cooked. The downed lady defended them and the heroine blinded them all and he took them out while they were blinded.
Did he look and sound cool? Yes. Was he pivotal and useful? Yes. But not OP. An OP protag would have taken them all out easily without needing the help.
The attracting everyone overnight is also wrong. Even including the next episode he's in the uncanny valley between heroic savoir and creep. Him coming to the rescue earned big points, but the accidents and stuff have done alot of damage.
Except for the mom, the mom seems perfectly happy to play ball lol. Thought whether she's actually interested or just is happy to still get attention and get some eye candy of her own is hard to say.
THAT BEING SAID, the "repulsive to girls" side character setup has clearly been de-railed. So even if its not really attracted overnight just yet its definitely not the "repulsed girls" either. So lets split the difference and say you're half right on that one :P.
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
What If the Sunohara archetype got Isekai'd into a fantasy anime and was the MC?
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u/hades334 15d ago
Why not take advantage of the fact that it's streaming and not airing on tv and go uncen like the manga. i dont get it, atleast then there would be smth memorable about the show
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 16d ago
Well shit, being reborn as a side character in an eroge ain’t so bad after all. Bro’s got a neat little magical scarf and a hot new stepmom haha.
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
When you think you're the side-character but you turn out to be in your own eroge game all along.
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u/theblazingsword 15d ago
I didn't know this one was getting an anime adaptation! I knew the light novels existed, should be interesting to see an eroge as the setting for a change!
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u/Obaruler 15d ago
What a dumb setting, its brilliant! :D
Our MC who is not supposed to be the MC has already snatched up the prime girl from the games actual MC before the main story of the game has even begun. xD
Slightly confused by the 18+ though, so far we've seen absolutely nothing to justify it, maybe later down the line, but for the setup so far this one has been very tame.
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u/AriezKage 16d ago
Anyone kinda getting Gamers! Deja vu from the character designs or is it just me?
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u/RedHotChiliCrab https://myanimelist.net/profile/RedHotChiliCrab 15d ago
His character design is way too main character coded to ever have been the sidekick lol.
Still I went into this with very low expectations and am pleasantly surprised with the first episode. I'm gonna stick around for a few more episodes at least.
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u/Ralathar44 6d ago
Maybe in anime, but in games and sometimes even VN/Eroge/etc some side characters are done well too so the MC can feel better for being superior to them.
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u/Ralathar44 5d ago
Hmmm, I mentioned nothing about any source material so I don't know how I ran afoul of this rule. I was stating that in general across multiple forms of media those kinds of characters could and do happen and why.
There is zero source material reference of any kind.
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u/ussgordoncaptain2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Edmund_Nelson 5d ago
Overturned
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u/Ralathar44 5d ago
Tankies, and thanks for yall's work to keep the sub spoiler and source material argument free! <3.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 16d ago
Stitches!
Not gonna lie, it's not a good first impression when you start your anime off with a 7-minute exposition dump about the world, its characters, and power system. There's definitely a more organic way to introduce all of that while keeping the story moving forward. >_<
Once Kousuke's exposition dump was over, things do start getting interesting. So he basically gets adopted by the most popular unromancable character in the eroge, and he gets to live with her and her daughter, who's also apparently unromancable. I mean, I think Kousuke should know what he needs to do here. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Considering the setup, I thought Kousuke would live a life parallel to the actual protagonist's story, but it looks like he's gonna end up changing the game's timeline now that he got himself involved with one of the main heroines.
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u/Jmills1999 15d ago
I disagree about the 7 minute exposition dump as not many stories have the MC be so knowledgeable about the world they're in from the very beginning so the "dump" was needed to show just how knowledgeable he is I believe
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 15d ago
If the goal was to show off how knowledgeable he is about the world, they could've just had him give us exposition while interacting with the world instead of just standing and walking around his apartment for 7 minutes straight.
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u/Jmills1999 15d ago
while I think the anime did it for stingy budget reasons, I didn't find any issue with it because a lot of people don't do much while they think so him interacting with the world is fine but I think them showing what he does here gives more insight to the MC's personality than it seems
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u/Solracziad 15d ago
There are better ways to showcase that then having 7 straight minutes of exposition.
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u/Jmills1999 15d ago
I diagree but that might be because I like more introspective single protagonist tories so I don't think we'll find common ground
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
I appreciate that, setting aside all his exposition, Kousuke is a decent guy who also appreciates the ladies and their loveliness (you can definitely tell why he plays eroge's and not just for the combat system lol).
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u/wjodendor 15d ago
I got a legit chuckle out of the difference between the "game" art and the actual anime. The eroge art looks soooo good and then actual anime looks fine at best
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u/DazenTheMistborn 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yes, the exposition just dragged on and on. Idk what the other guy is on, enough shows have done this trope (or something similar as far as MC being knowledgeable of the world*) and executed it better.
Even when it was revealed that the principal would adopt him, he "expositioned" more details that could have been relayed easily within a conversation naturally.
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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario 15d ago
Something about the art style on this seems so familiar…
Slightly new meaning to the term MILF
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u/KnewZo 16d ago
The world of eroge games is though for mobs
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u/AdmiralThunderpants 16d ago
Looks like he's going to get a bit more respect (and possibly action) than Leon, that's for sure.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 14d ago
Leon got plenty action, he just had to risk his life numerous times for it
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u/AdmiralThunderpants 14d ago
He got that action after having been hit over the head by Luxuon and tricked into marriage by Olivia and Angelica. Plus he had to leave them for a new mission almost immediately after. This MC might have have better chances like the MC from online shopper.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 14d ago
Leon could have had that action long ago but he was afraid of rejection that's all. Kou seems pretty favored so far though and I love it
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
I thought MobuSeka had a much stronger start though, with that fantastic pre-reincarnation rage outburst lol This one just feels bland and tepidly directed in comparison.
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u/runevault 16d ago
Huh, kinda dug the first episode. MC Monologues a lot but some reason I didn't mind it.
Curious how freaky the eroge parts get, we've already had the principle/step mom's bra plus bouncing chest and now the elf girl's panties (plus the image from the VN at the start). Also he's got a major power advantage in a specific way but it isn't the sort of I-Win button a lot of isekai normally do which is a huge plus.
On to episode 2!
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
I appreciate how upfront they are about how this is an eroge so yes, they will find any and all excuses for fanservice moments with the female cast and the MC is going to enjoy them!
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u/Ralathar44 6d ago
He's monolgouing but it feels like he's actually thinking things through and being smart so it fits.
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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit 15d ago
Bro, the daughter is almost older than the mom, cmon.
#AnimeLogicPleaseDontAsk
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u/BiggerG7 15d ago
I can understand explaining the world and character backgrounds but do we really need an explanation on how freakin leveling up works? I’m a little offended lol.
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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 15d ago
"It's the annoying sidekick that no one wants!" Don't you dare say that about TOMODA!!!!
Dude didn't even demonstrate much surprise finding himself inside the game, just annoyed at being the side character, and immediately started scheming to become THE STRONGEST.
Being adopted by a GILF(?) straight away, that's certainly something.
If MC is not aware of this event, then why did he assume the game's protagonist would suddenly show up and same the girl? Obviously she wouldn't be killed (according to the game story), but it wouldn't be with the protag's help.
The bad guy of the episode put up with that heroine for years just so that he could kill her now? I assume there's a reason he waited?
The one with the gun could've just kept shooting when MC stopped blocking, but it wasn't his combat turn, I guess.
I'd expected him to throw that icicle back, but he just shattered it for some reason.
Not crazy about this one so far, but I might give it another episode if I feel like it next week. Oh, it's a 2 ep premier. Here we go, I guess....
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
I'm quite surprised at the reaction to the first episode. The premise seems like a lot of fun and a great excuse/reason for a lot of horny content, so I was quite excited. However the actual execution is just really bland, flat and boring.
For a first episode of something like this, it's not horny enough, there's a distinct lack of bouncy over the top ecchiness, and the MC himself seems to have no particularly strong feelings about anything, managing only some mildish outbursts? Seems like a wasted premise so far, but maybe it'll pick up in the second episode.
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u/RickChakraborty 14d ago
I'm really not sure what they were thinking when they chose White Fox as the studio for this. That itself had already given it away that they were not gonna stay true to the ecchi potential of this series and would instead make it safe, sanitised and boring.
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u/alotmorealots 13d ago
Yeah, TNK would have been a great choice for this (especially given Passione is booked to the gills lately).
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u/Frontier246 16d ago edited 15d ago
What if instead of his real life becoming an eroge, Itsuka Shidou was literally ported into one?
Eroge's are these fabolous, fantastical, worlds where you bump into cute girls, see their striped panties, and get into all manner of fanservice/romcom shenanigans with your Harem! But imagine instead of getting reincarnted into the protagonist of that eroge...you became the hapless best friend character. Enter Takioto Kousuke (Nobunaga Shimazaki!)!
You know the type: loud, stupid, with terrible luck in both life AND with the ladies, and designed to make the actual male lead look more desirable by comparison. It's not a life probably anyone would want, especially in a world of fantasy with magic and the like. Though at least you get a cool scarf out of it.
Kousuke may not be in the most enviable position (especially because it means he might not see any of the fanservice CG moments with the Heroines) but he's prepared to use his knowledge of the game as a speedrunner and his passionate heart as a gamer to become the strongest in the game anyway despite his magic advantage!
Of course, he may not BE the main character of this Eroge, but he's got eroge MC cred anyways...like when Marino Hanamura (Mai Fuchigami!), Witch of Tsukuyomi, a certified MILF (and widow), and principal of his future school shows up in his life. She's not just an absolute beautie in a suit with her exposed cleavage and nice legs (and don't think Kousuke doesn't notice the legs) but she's also going to be his new mom! Which also makes him the step-brother to his future teacher! Both of whom were the two most desired romance options in the game who you couldn't romance!
Suddenly learning about your characters' tragic backstory of parents killed by demons now? Where was this in the game?
Just when Kousuke thinks he's got it easy with a new mom, new money, and a full course meal...a terrorist attack ensues. One targetted at none other than the Main Heroine herself! Betrayed by one of her own butlers in fact, as her maid Claris (Risa Tsumugi!) gets stabbed! And because this is an eroge she gets her dress ripped so she can flash her (admittedly on-point) panties before a baddie does something untoward towards her! But not on Kousuke's watch!
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u/Working-Spell-7024 15d ago edited 14d ago
The info on his character's backstory sounds like it was in either some side material, or in the kind of event that he never bothered doing since it didn't involve horny stuff.
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u/saga999 15d ago
Complained about the tropes in eroge, then did all the tropes in eroge. Complaining is not permission to do all the things you complained about!
But that doesn't matter. Eroge have those tropes because they don't matter. This anime has these tropes because they don't matter. It's all about the girls. Introducing the principal as the first girl, they know what they are doing.
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u/copokasasagi 14d ago
in his shoes i'd pass pursuing any heroine tbh
taboo stepmom path is all i need
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u/minnieboss 16d ago
Can this guy stop exposition dumping for 5 seconds? Unbearable to watch
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
Worse still, it's not even done particularly well. Sometimes listening to the characters rant and rave about the game they've been reincarnated into is one of the best parts. For raving about Eroge, whilst the content of the monologue was fun enough, it just all felt very flat and disengaged. MobuSeka is a great counter example of how monologuing about the game can be a highlight of the entertainment.
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u/Frontier246 15d ago
Kousuke: "So if this is your first eroge with a combat system blah blah blah..."
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u/A-Chicken 7d ago
Maybe, but eroge is kind of a niche and the usual crowd probably hasn't touched one of those, ever.
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u/Andreiyutzzzz https://myanimelist.net/profile/Andreiyutzzzz 14d ago
Ok this is amazing. And the animation is so good checks studio WHITE FOX??? Y'all just finished re:zero and already doing peak
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u/alotmorealots 14d ago
And the animation is so good
... I feel like I must have missed a lot of it? I don't mean that in a snarky way, I just genuinely didn't see anything much of note from the visuals apart from the Eroge screen samples looking pretty good. Maybe I was over caffeinated or something.
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u/EngineeringMother972 14d ago
This was even trashier than I was expecting, and that's saying a ton.
It went from an incredible pace to ... whatever episode 2 was.
I don't know if this is worth watching. One more episode.
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u/Shadowmist909 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Magicmist 14d ago
For a side character in an eroge, Kousukes got some bleak lore.
But with this end of episode incident involving Ludivine, I'm getting the impression the world building is just leans this way.
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u/ZagiNoa 3h ago
The devs is that game must have shelved his background info so that OG MC can shine.
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u/Shadowmist909 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Magicmist 1h ago
With them shelving Ludivine's backstory. This would make sense.
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u/SufficientProcess759 14d ago
Highkey I fuck with the scarf hand magic so much. I hope that becomes his specialty and focuses on that mostly. Super excited to see them throw hands
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u/GOlNG_MERRY https://anilist.co/user/GOlNGMERRY 13d ago
Where can i watch this? It just says “Streams: None”
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u/IceSmiley 12d ago
Good for the most part and I liked the detailed explanations that went into it and it wasn't confusing despite having so many elements. They didn't really explain why the guy went from being able to do practically nothing to fighting off 5 guys with his magical cape but maybe they'll explain that later.
This world seems very dark for an eroge, like aren't they usually fun fantasy worlds more focused on sex and romance? Like the "side character" has his entire family die and the maid gets stabbed thru the chest and the blonde girl almost gets sexually assaulted. Then again the existence of this world based on a video game hasn't been explained yet.
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u/JamariHeWolf12 10d ago edited 10d ago
Nearly 5 minutes in, and I see a 10-pack on a dude; unrealistic. The game's protagonist looks like the average isekai protagonist. Can Marino become a heroine? She's too pretty to be relegated to the background. The circumstances that led to meeting the elf with the long-ass name could've been better. Claris should be dead by now. Of course you wait until someone's already died to do something. Cheesy line about being the strongest and surprisingly not bad animation. The animation better hold up.
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u/JamariHeWolf12 9d ago
This episode wasted no time with the fanservice. I expect these situations, but come on. What'd you use to tie up the bad guys, or use the tablecloths? I get sleeper builds and not being able to tell when wearing clothing, but Takiota is muscular, jeez. Marino was really happy when he came running over. I'd imagine he wants these situations to happen because he knows what kind of game this is and could do things to prevent these situations, but doesn't. Do we need these angles? Is your tape that weak? Why blur the tail and everything else but not the plates in the sink? ED is better than the OP. Girls are cute and marketable, but we already know who's main girl.
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u/Stopthetourist 15d ago
I love it. This is the perfect cancer for tourist. I wish more anime was like this so we could keep the fucking freaks out of our hobbies.
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u/thelemon8er-2 16d ago
Is this enjoyable? Haven’t started it yet.
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