r/australia • • 1d ago

no politics Do we want Amazon delivery drones over our backyards?

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I spotted a campaign from an Aussie YouTuber I follow (Brent Pearson, his channel is about adventure bike riding & videography). His campaign is about Amazon pushing to start commercial drone deliveries in Australia.

Thought it was worth bringing up here, hopefully without breaking any sub rules.

My main concern? Losing quiet skies over my back garden.

He's actually a drone pilot and uses Amazon himself, but he is not ok with what is already happening in the US and highlighted worrisome facts:

  • Noise: Apparently, during drop-offs, the drones hit around 82 dB (like a freight train passing right near your fence).
  • Frequency: In places in the US where this is live, neighbours see a drone buzz past every 3 to 5 minutes all day long.

The main reason he's pushing this now is that once this gets approved, nearby residents basically get zero say on flight paths over their homes.

If you care about this, check his page to read what he put together and see if you want to sign: search "No Delivery Drones Brent Pearson" or "nodeliverydrones".

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u/Temporary-Comfort307 1d ago

No. I lived near an area with Door Dash drones and hated it. That horrible buzzing sound makes being outside unpleasant when they are around, it's like having constant swarms of insects. If these drones are bigger it would be even worse.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Pie5889 1d ago

Make being outside unpleasant probably sounds like a great business plan for Bezos, these tech bros want us inside on our devices whenever we're not working or sleeping I swear

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u/litciggie 1d ago

I clicked play and now I feel like a fool

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u/rarecuts 1d ago

Always scan the comments first šŸ˜…

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u/Shamapow 1d ago

Yup! Sorry!! I realised too late that it could mislead some readers. :/

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u/ChromiumPants 1d ago

Imo CASA will tell amazon to fly a kite in their warehouse. (With the proper permissions of course)

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u/techb00mer 1d ago

What altitude do they typically fly at? I ask because I’m under a flight path for Sydney airport, so is a considerable amount of Sydney. Fat chance CASA will allow it, which is good.

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u/Avia_NZ 1d ago

Less than 400ft. You can’t fly above that legally without very specific permissions and licenses

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u/turtleltrut 1d ago

120m*

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u/heff1499 1d ago

In aviation its all still feet and knots afaik

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u/DarkNo7318 23h ago

Except for horizontal separation from clouds (vertical still in feet).

Make that make sense.

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u/CoderAU 1d ago

you underestimate how much bribing power amazon has

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u/kickassNM 1d ago

You underestimate how pigheaded CASA is

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u/Llamacup 1d ago

And thank god they are.

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u/Silviecat44 1d ago

CASA is REALLY stubborn

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u/pandifer 1d ago

One hopes. I bought a small drone, before I read the CASA limits and realised I could never fly it where I wanted to. Shoulda resold, but no, its been rotting ina box somewhere.. silly me.

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u/PristineMountain1644 1d ago

CASA is one of the most drone-friendly regulators globally, they have a well established framework for drone delivery operations. Google’s Wing have been doing commercial ops here since 2019, but closed down earlier this year to focus on their US expansion

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u/GlorpedUpDragStrip 1d ago

There was a drone delivery company operating in Logan for a while a few years ago. A house nearby me would get deliveries every other day.

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u/Bob_Spud 1d ago

There's no gaurantee they will be Amazon drones. Once its acceptable for one company then others will follow including your neighbours.

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u/giatu_prs 6h ago

But I've got nothing to hide!

shits with toilet door open and wanks in the backyard

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u/ingenkopaaisen 1d ago

Noisy as hell. I don't want this and it seems wasteful.

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u/fae-gold 1d ago

Just need to wait for the local wedgetails to attack them. Best anti drone air force we have.

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u/looking-out 1d ago

This sounds horrible. I just looked up some videos of the noise they make and jhc no thanks. Let alone listening to every dog in the neighbourhood bark it's head off at the unsettling noise or things flying around them.Ā  There's nothing on Amazon so critical that it can't wait for the postie.Ā 

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u/Glass_Ad_7129 1d ago

I've always been tempted to try using a drone to knock out another, like ive seen done in Ukraine.

I'm sure drone pirating will be a thing, free loot boxs.

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u/cheersdrive420 1d ago

Do you want to start a roller blading, japanese hip hop listening, spray painting, drone pirate gang?

I’m in Sydney.

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u/EmbraceThePing 1d ago

Can I bring a skateboard instead of roller blades? I'll be there with my slingshot and eye patch :D

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u/cheersdrive420 1d ago

I’ll allow it! Welcome to the gang. Numbers are growing fast.

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u/Cheesus_H_Mice 1d ago

I'm in if i can listen to outlaw country as well

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u/cheersdrive420 1d ago

Replace your back roller blade brakes with spurs and you got a deal. Welcome to the gang!

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u/Glass_Ad_7129 23h ago

Just wait till, "Drone Crime, do the time" campaigns, after a spike of drones being consumed for copper/parts.

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u/_blip_ 1d ago

Get those pesky kids off their illegal e-motos and give them slingshots

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u/shrimplifier 1d ago

The children yearn to be armed for an anti corporate rebellion.

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u/_blip_ 21h ago

Terminator 2 was a parenting guide

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u/milesjameson 1d ago edited 1d ago

No. Fuck those things. I’ll repeat what I’ve said before: there should be a rule that if you manage to bring one down, you get to keep whatever it’s carrying.

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u/Superg0id 1d ago

Yessssss.

Time to get a gun licence for "recreational hunting".

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u/Avia_NZ 1d ago

Sadly drones are considered aircraft, so it’s super illegal to do it. But, buck a roll of toilet paper over it and it’ll work a treat ;)

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u/statusconference 1d ago

I can just imagine it now.
Amazon brings in drones. People respond by becoming semi-professional TP drone hunters and post their hunt and spoils on YouTube and TikTok. Drone rolling becomes wildly popular.
Australian government responds by enacting a policy about what and how much toilet paper consumers can purchase.

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u/med561 1d ago

No, last thing is a bunch of folks shooting into the sky hoping to hit them. Bullets come back down.

Maybe a slingshot or bring back the boomerang. What is old is new

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u/dirtyburgers85 1d ago

We need to make this so normal it’s not worth them operating.

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u/giacintam 1d ago

Genuinely if I threw a rock at these things, would I get in trouble?

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u/Farmboy76 1d ago

Drone strikes are all the rage right now

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u/HelloGizmo 1d ago

I’m wondering if throwing a toilet paper roll is more effective?

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u/opajamashimasuuu 1d ago

Just wait til we get the ones that fire back. That’ll be a laugh!Ā 

Or the ones thatĀ release the dogs, or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark, they shoot bees at you? Well, go ahead! Do your worst!

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u/meski_oz 1d ago

Do you want Terminators?

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u/Cheesus_H_Mice 1d ago

Fuckin someone does from what ive seen

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u/aussiekev 1d ago

Yes. Under Australian law, interfering with an aircraft or its crew is governed primarily by Section 24 of the Civil Aviation Act 1988 and related regulations enforced by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).

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u/Delamoor 1d ago

Without searching, then I wonder what the rules rw for those aircraft travelling a few metres above a residential area?

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u/giacintam 22h ago

Is it considered aircraft? Also is there not privacy/consent laws that cover this sort of stuff? Genuinely curious

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u/unripenedfruit 1d ago

FYI 82db is definitely not a freight train passing next to your fence

82db is the noise of street traffic

I'm not saying the drones aren't loud, just if they are as you've described they'd be much louder than 82db

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u/Vyviel 23h ago

Yeah true 82 db is like the sound of a leaf blower of petrol lawn mower

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u/Disastrous-Name9251 1d ago

Had Wing delivery over my place for a while.

Was quite nice getting coffees and egg and bacon rolls delivered during Covid. Can definitely see the utility especially for things like getting meds out to people.

Was not nice having an endless stream of drones from 9am especially after coming off night shifts. The dogs lost their mind. Had no idea what drones were wing, what were real estate, what were just your average person, what had cameras, what could see into my backyard.

Was an absolute nightmare trying to get any engagement with the powers that be. Felt like huge regulatory gaps. The only thing that ever happened was an inquiry into drone noise. Not drones. Just drone noise.

Then the drones stopped. I missed the coffees, but was glad

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u/Calamityclams 1d ago

I don't see our aviation standards changing for these things any time soon

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u/PristineMountain1644 1d ago

They don’t need to. CASA has a well established framework for drone delivery operations already. Google’s Wing drone program have been operating in Australia since 2019 and have completed hundreds of thousands of commercial deliveries, mainly on behalf of DoorDash, in Logan, Ipswich, Ringwood and Canberra

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u/FuckOffNazis 1d ago

Backyard barrage balloons?

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u/hiddeninfullview 1d ago

Then there’s also the loss of jobs for people delivering and more data tracking. Surely the drones would be recording while in operation, so even less privacy

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u/anpanman100 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't think deliveries to houses exist anymore. All parcels just get delivered to the nearest post office or distribution centre now. The only jobs at risk are the people who send the "sorry we missed you" SMS messages.

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u/FrewdWoad 22h ago

Fill out the Australia Post online complaints form. 3 minutes.

This happened to me twice, in my last two houses. Each time I just filled out the form: address, date, "they left a slip without knocking, even though I was home". That's it.

Each time it NEVER HAPPENED AT THAT ADDRESS EVER AGAIN. All packages make it to my door now.

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u/AccordingWarning9534 1d ago

Fuck no.

Our neighbours house went up for sale and they used a drone to film shots for the advertisement. That thing only went on for 10 minutes but it so disruptive. The noise also triggered by dog, like it irritated him terribly. It irritated me too. The noise is too unnatural and we shouldn't be exposed to it regularly

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u/IllMoney69 1d ago

I’m not trying to sound like a tough guy but I seriously will do what I can to take those things out if they start buzzing around where I live.

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u/Lngdnzi 1d ago

I reckon we invest in kamikaze drones

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u/mrducky78a 1d ago

Make sure you bill amazon for damages received to your drones.

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u/KeyAssociation6309 1d ago

buy them from Amazon and then return them for refund

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u/QLDZDR 23h ago

I reckon we invest in Amazon logo stickers for our recreational drones

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u/semaja2 1d ago

Do we want Amazon? No

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u/Cold_Calendar_1598 1d ago

So we are going to have constant buzzing from overhead drones. Like Palestine and Lebanon

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u/GreenLeechofReddit 1d ago

For years I've been begging people to stop ordering stuff from Amazon. Again, please stop ordering stuff from Amazon.Ā 

Don't let Bezos hoard anymore of your money and now, grant him extra surveillance powers.

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u/PAPO1990 1d ago

I avoid it when I can, but sometimes no one else has what you need at a reasonable price, or that will be delivered when you need it.

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u/Borguschain 1d ago

I agree, my kid is studying music for the hsc, breaks a string, the local music shop isn't open until Monday. Can have that string delivered Saturday, practice continues.

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u/PAPO1990 1d ago

I mean strings shouldn't be breaking TOO often, but when I played guitar more often I always kept at LEAST one spare set of strings around. never ended up needing them, so I STILL have a spare set of strings in my music cupboard.

But aside from that, your point still stands.

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u/DelicateRuin 12h ago

It doesn't help that Australia Post is so unbelievably shit. I decided to get mask filters off a small eBay seller rather than amazon and they sat in some sorting facility for 3 weeks. Won't be doing that again.

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u/clarky2481 1d ago

People use amazon because the service is fantastic, review are reliable and products are competitively priced. Why would i buy something with longer delivery times, worse customer service and at higher prices just cause bezos bad?

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u/a_lot_of_faffin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Because you can hold two opposing thoughts in your head at the same time. I use Amazon because it’s convenient and sometimes it’s the best solution when you have little time, kids, or a budget. But I don’t like supporting a company that exploits their workers, that unethically decimates competition with their Basics brand, that influences politics and media, and abuses people’s privacy. I’ll avoid Amazon when I can and I hope to stop using them completely as my lifestyle changes, but I also recognise my own hypocrisy in using them while I’m against them as a company.

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u/dirtyburgers85 1d ago

It’s so easy not to use it. Jesus, it’s not like abstaining from food.

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u/my_chinchilla 1d ago

the service is fantastic, review are reliable and products are competitively priced

Must be some other "Amazon" I'm unaware of...

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u/clarky2481 1d ago

Aus post takes weeks and more often than not just leaves a slip in the mailbox without even knocking. Amazon delivers things next day more often than not and the couriers are better than Aus post ones. In Brisbane and major cities anyways the service on Amazon is exponentially better.

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u/ImAFutureGuitarHero 1d ago

Amazon is fast in Sydney as well, but they also rarely ever knock, they usually just plant the package on the doorstep and leave. The only time in recent memory that they knocked was when it was raining a few days ago, and even then by the time I got to the door they were walking away and had sat the package on the step (getting rained on)

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u/These-Equal-6849 1d ago

"reviews are reliable" LOL most of them are obviously fake from click farms.

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u/OriginalCause 1d ago

Definitely agree. It's easy to be performative online.

When I moved to Australia I generally had to wait 7 to 10 days at minimum for any package to be delivered. Often longer if it was interstate.

I still had to call up most stores to find out what the prices of bigger ticket items were because they were so worried about other stores undercutting them. Comparative shopping was extremely difficult because of it.

When I needed to return something, I had to argue with floor staff even if I was fully covered under Australian consumer law - and sometimes still lost.

For many products - even standard, normal stuff - it was often cheaper for me to order them from the other side of the world and pay international shipping than it was to pay local prices + local shipping, and sometimes they'd even arrive quicker.

Australia was so far behind most of the rest of the world when it comes to online shopping (and shopping in general) as little as 15 years ago. Amazon is the company who came in and disrupted what was a stale, outdated system that was punishing consumers.

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u/Womb8t 1d ago

Never going to happen.

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u/IllMoney69 1d ago

I don’t use Amazon and won’t.

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u/eldfen 1d ago

I just wrote a submission to council about having a maccas nearby. I don't want any of this shit.

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u/QLDZDR 23h ago

You mean "against one". because why do you want a maccas?

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u/CuriouserCat2 1d ago

FUCK NO.Ā 

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u/iknowaruffok 1d ago

Cockies lose their shit when they see a drone. So add to the noise of drones, distressed flocks of cockies screaming their heads off everytime a pointless item someone ordered of Amazon flies through their airspace.

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u/gooder_name 19h ago

100% chance they sell drone camera subscriptions to law enforcement for mass surveillance. You’ll have cops delivering packages next door to their exes so they can log in and spy on them.

Automatic license plate readers associating you with locations and selling that information not just to ad agencies but government and corporate types wanting to get an early insight on workers unionising. Palantir logging it all so it can see if and where employees are associating, whether they’re meeting with union reps.

They’ll say it’s for convenient package delivery and to reduce road use by delivery drivers, but the amount of packages Amazon delivers could never be economical with drones. It will be sold as making neighbourhoods safe so they can track kids who go missing.

It is entirely for mass surveillance, it’s what I’d be doing if I was a fucked corporate shithead wanting to suckle at the teat of fascism.

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u/HansBooby 1d ago

small corner of hell reserved for people who post screenshots of play buttons

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u/TheYellowFringe 1d ago

No.

It's simple to abuse the technology and accidents will undoubtedly happen.

Especially with orders or deliveries that could/need to be quick.

Imagine a drone crashing through your roof or smashing through a window because of an error or malfunction.

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u/DelicateRuin 12h ago

It's already happened. We most likely won't avoid them all-together. There should be a daily limit or something. They generate a shitload less c02 so that's something to consider.

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u/tectonic-shit 4h ago

Imagine an aircraft crashing through your roof or smashing through a window because of an error or malfunction. Did CASA ban aircrafts from flying over densely populated areas? No.

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u/MrBobbyFreakout 1d ago

Fuck no. We don’t want Amazon full stop.

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u/keystoneux 1d ago

No. At any point I see one of those fuckers flying over my property I will use everything at my disposal to permanently remove it from the air. Law be damned

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u/missingN0pe 1d ago

Post video plz

I want to see "bogan tries to fight off delivery drone with a rake at 48metres, gives up and goes inside" on youtube

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u/_nocebo_ 1d ago

I imagine they have pretty good camera, recording and GPS technology installed for exactly these scenarios. I'm also guessing that shooting down a drone would likely end up a criminal offence...

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u/AssaultLemming_ 1d ago

It's probably a really serious crime like interfering with an aircraft

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u/keystoneux 1d ago

Law... Be ... Damned

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u/Shadowlance23 1d ago

Pretty sure I could build an optical interceptor with some poly pipe, a Raspberry Pi and a can of AXE Body Sprayā„¢ļø

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u/F1eshWound 1d ago

they wont make it past our multiple layers of bird security

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u/angrysunbird 1d ago

They’re basically technological piƱatas right? Hit them out comes presents?

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u/BassesBest 1d ago

Targets for slingshots...

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u/LovesToSnooze 1d ago

Get your own drone and battle for your skies....

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u/Thatsplumb 1d ago

No, moving flock cameras to spy on everyone? I'm good ta

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u/ShoganAye 1d ago

Oh hell no. All the doggies will hate it too ..not to mention disturbance to wildlife

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u/denkenach 1d ago

No, we do not!

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u/Hurlanis 1d ago

YES! And i want my streets filled with Deliveroo robots! Omg and the Roads?!?!? can we get some robo taxis too!!!! oh my god and can you PLEASE replace my cashier with a robot as well oh fucking please. In fact can you please saw off my fucking cock and replace it with a tiny shrimp robot?

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u/evilspyboy 1d ago

I have spent more than a year building something that also manages this for local councils as there is a very long reason why some of this has to be at that level, it is also not 'just delivery drones' although a lot of people in positions of power think it is just one thing.

So far I have only met with one councils tech leadership and afterwards got flobbed off with nonsense when they were supposed to come back with questions.

The system does a lot more than just this particular future proofing and there is parts that relate to addressing a number of specific grants for councils to have things in place for emergencies and to be a bit more blunt, help your house not burn down.

The feedback was as a whole from that council - 'we don't think that is our responsibility'.

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u/Particular_River5567 5h ago

I ordered 3 completely unlrelated things off amazon last monday morning. They arrived by 7pm. Thats fast enough for me.

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u/serumnegative 1d ago

That would violate the laws we already have about drone operations.

Consult the air services website.

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u/serumnegative 1d ago

Sorry I meant CASA not Airservices

https://www.casa.gov.au/knowyourdrone/drone-rules

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u/PotentiallyHeavy 1d ago

Those regulations are just for recreational drones. Can't be letting people have fun while there's money to be made selling access to the sky

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u/serumnegative 1d ago

ā€œIf you fly your drone for work (commercially), extra rules applyā€

_Extra_ rules

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u/chunky_lover18 1d ago

Absolutely not

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u/ol-gormsby 1d ago

They won't get permission to fly over private property, but they *might* get permission to fly along streets and drop their stuff off right at the property boundary, or fling it off from outside the property boundary, i.e. chuck it into your yard from the footpath.

I have neighbours who I like and respect, but some of them would shoot these things down (rural property with farmers for neighbours).

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u/keystoneux 1d ago

We had a google initiative in Logan, Qld where drones flew paths over private properties. Most fucking annoying thing ever. I don't know if it's still happening but Jesus Christ, visiting my mother and seeing these asshole devices fly over multiple times a day and the insect-on-crack nose it made was infuriating. Not to mention the sense of privacy violation every time one flew over

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u/ol-gormsby 1d ago

If they're low enough to annoy you, they're low enough to intercept.

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u/mrmratt 1d ago edited 1d ago

I lived in a Wing delivery area in Canberra for years.

They flew directly over houses (including mine) , like any other aircraft. Residents don't own the airspace.

The drones would only lower deliveries directly onto the driveway within the property line. I couldn't even try the service, because my garage backed directly onto the public laneway.

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u/ol-gormsby 1d ago

You don't own the airspace but there are rules about who can enter it.

Private aircraft aren't allowed below 300 feet (IIRC) in general, emergency vehicles excepted of course. There might be other exceptions, and drones must remain in sight of the operator.

Again, that might all be changing. But me and my neighbours would be more than a little upset if they were given permission to fly overhead. We live here to get away from such intrusions.

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u/mrmratt 1d ago

there are rules about who can enter it

Of course. They're regulated by CASA. That framework is at least 8 years old. Drones are permitted, as evidenced by the commercial operation of exactly that, in residential areas, over the course of 5 years.

might be changing

It already changed. We had drone deliveries in Canberra 2018 to 2023. Well out of visual range of the operator. Below 300ft.

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u/capngump 1d ago

The big corporations donate enough money to make sure they will not be subject to the same rules regular small scale operators have to abide by

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u/Cont4x 1d ago

1000ft over built up areas (cities) and 500ft every where else. This only applies to aircraft and may differ for drones

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u/Maldevinine 1d ago

General drone rules are not above 400ft, within sight of operator, not within 3 nautical miles of airstrips, and not in a way that may cause harm to the public.

That last one is deliberately vague and multiple drone operators have tried to get CASA to make it more explicit. But they won't change it, because it's their freebie to hit anybody who does something they don't like with charges.

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u/Cont4x 1d ago

Cheers mate

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u/TheRealTimTam 1d ago

Its 100 percent legal to fly over private property any drone pilot can do it as the airspace is not private property. And shooting them down is a much higher offense than you would think as it comes under the same law as attacking planes ( im sure a judge would see reason and give you the lower end of the jail time but still)

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u/Mysterious-Yak1693 14h ago

the previous Australian trials flew point to point, over everything. Only requirement was a safe landing space on the front of the property, away from trees.

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u/PAPO1990 1d ago

if they can make them less noisy, I'd actually love to have my deliveries right in my yard instead of to my door.

There ARE ways to make them a little quieter with research into things like toroidal propellers, among other things. But there would need to be some amount of regulation around it, other than limits on noise, possibly also limits on how many can be in a given area.

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u/PloppyTheSpaceship 1d ago

Interested to see how they fare in areas with eagles - those things will take out a drone given half a chance (source - part of job involves flying drones, had numerous scrapes with eagles)

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u/quick_dry 1d ago

it'll eventually happen,I think these test programmes are going to be pushing for effectively acquiring airspace at a certain level AGL.

I wouldn't so much mind them having a strict airspace to operate in - we're below 400feet AGL, they can have 400-500 - or pony up the extra requirements to operate in the 500+ manned airspace.

Either way, they should be required to have sufficient visual sense-and-avoid if they're working autonomously BVLOS. Helicopters are especially bad at dipping down wherever they want.

Sadly we don't have the footpath/cycleway spaces for them to do last mile delivery with those little autonomous eskis.

I'm commercially licensed to operate drones, but I'd rather not have the constant buzzing of drones overhead in quiet/suburban areas.

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u/metametapraxis 1d ago

We don’t need autonomous delivery at all. It is incredibly wasteful versus normal daily delivery. Humanity is just insane at this point.

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u/schminch 1d ago

Autonomous eskis! Can sense when your tin is at 10% capacity and promptly delivers your next brew at the bbq.

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u/Excellent_Orange6346 1d ago

Isn't that the nearest child's job?

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u/schminch 1d ago

The AI job replacements affect us all, even the children. They’ll have to go back to the coal mines.

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u/Bustable 1d ago

They yearn for the mines

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u/Puzzleheaded-Pie5889 1d ago

Yeah a defeatist attitude just leads to political apathy and then we get the worst case scenario. Sign petitions, be vocal about not wanting drone deliveries. You can push back against these things.

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u/quick_dry 1d ago

It’s not as simple as drones v no drones.

It’s all ā€œdependsā€. - Google wing or Amazon octocopters that sound like flying chainsaws over the suburbs at 300 ft? No

Quiet (large rotor? Toroidal?) at 450-500ft? ok

Bulk unmanned cargo at commercial flight level? Hell yeah

Large rpas BVLOS transit in general aviation airspace? yes, probs quieter than a Cessna

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u/CompoteNo8972 1d ago

If they operated over thr roads only

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u/AssaultLemming_ 1d ago

Well the flip side is that delivery vans are noisy and polluting as well.

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u/Infamous-Umpire-2923 1d ago

As someone who is sick and tired of delivery drivers treating instructions as optional I am completely in favour of this.

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u/ath0rus 1d ago

My dad said he wanted to shoot it down, I said the fine ain't worth it.

Though if it's looking into your private property and you didn't give it permission to (aka a neighbour ordered something and you didn't and it's looking in your yard) report a date and time and ideally a gps location (lat long) or address of where the drone was spotted. Report that to casa

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u/No_Seat8357 1d ago

I really do want to see some carnage when the get attacked by the magpie army every September.

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u/Odd_Ice9183 1d ago

Only for Important medical supplies or similar. Not for groceries or random Amazon junk.

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u/m3umax 1d ago

We thought the future would be flying cars like in Blade Runner and Attack of the Clones.

Turns out the future will be flying vehicles... but they're drones! 🤣

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u/CelebrationFit8548 1d ago

It is so 'situational' that 'blanket statements' could become self-sabotaging.

I currently live on an island that has a vehicle ferry (~60mins) or passenger ferry (~30mins) to the mainland and drone deliveries could be meaningful out here but I agree the 'disruption' to the peace and quiet of 'island life' would be very concerning and remove one of the most pleasant aspects of living here.

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u/xietbrix 1d ago

If it means I get my shit safely and on time then I don't mind the tradeoff.

I can see it being a problem for people living in densely populated suburbs though so maybe there should be some regulation around where this is suitable and where it isn't.

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u/Nightgaun7 1d ago

>adventure biking

You mean motorcyclist

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u/Baaastet 1d ago edited 1d ago

It will remove the jobs for the couriers = more unemployment.

It will not save us money - we'll still pay for delivery, we might even pay more.

Noise - I have yet to encounter a drone that doesn't sound like an annoying loud angry insect. It could come from different directions, it's intermittent and irritating. You'll be sitting there and all of the sudden the concentration is broken, at first you can't figure out what it is, then you realise it's the angry whiny buzz that gets louder and louder. I hadn't realised how bad it was until I was on holiday in a beautiful city in South America. We'd sit on the main square watching the sunset when the buzzing would start. It was unpleasant and irritating. And these were not industrial drones. Imagine living next to someone who have constant deliveries...

Upset dogs - I've read that it makes many dogs bark like crazy. So even more noise and upset owners.

Privacy issues - where will the recordings be stored? As they approach delivery, they will see into gardens and windows.

... and this will help the stalkers who are using this tech to hunt their victims be less detectable. They now can hear and report a drone (even if they can't prove it's the stalker). But with drones being everywhere, a stalker won't stand out. And I speak as someone who had a sibling (not in Australia) who stalked like this, hunted.

Why is this something we want? But because Bezos will bribe those who could reject this - it won't matter what we think...

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u/Quotation1468 1d ago

If you want to be helpful, write to your local member. If you want to do nothing, complain on social media.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contacting_Senators_and_Members

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u/hanxu98121 1d ago

Yes, I would support it. I think I would support it, as long as it can deliver my packages to me faster and without damage.

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u/veng6 1d ago

I think we can genuinely have a better society with automation. But under these conditions and with the rich and their companies ruling over us? Nah.

Gonna take us fighting into the dark ages first to then be able to re build a more fair society

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u/Puskarella 1d ago

No. No. No.

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u/turtleltrut 1d ago

We have drone food deliveries in my area and I've heard them twice in 2 years as they delivered to the house across from my. It wasn't that loud but I suppose if it was more frequent it could get annoying. At present they can only hold a very small amount of weight so I assume it wouldn't be that frequent for a while. Guess it's something we probably can't stop though, it'll be here eventually.

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u/dav_oid 1d ago

It shows how little rights citizens have these days.
The skies belong to everyone and aren't for commercial exploitation.

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u/mantidmarvel 1d ago

Just start saying the drones are full of copper, it'll sort itself out

(In all seriousness, be sure to contact your local representative about concerns)

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u/NeinJuanJuan 1d ago

Whether we get them or not, I'd want permits and regulations set up so that local Australian small businesses can also use drones to allow for fair competition and a level playing field.

Local merchants and courier companies (who actually pay tax in Australia) should be afforded the same efficiencies.Ā 

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u/Vyviel 23h ago

Sounds awesome where do I sign up for drone deliveries?

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u/QLDZDR 23h ago

And then the copy cat drones will be everywhere. Surveillance in plain sight because everyone says "oh that is just Amazon"

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u/Formal-Try-2779 23h ago

Like it will matter? Big business will get what they want as per usual.

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u/Spiritual_One126 22h ago

Ewww, can we not

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u/sea-quench 22h ago

Aaaaabsolutely not.

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u/JunkIsMansBestFriend 20h ago

Yes absolutely. Australia Post sucks.

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u/Drongo17 19h ago

I do not want this. They scare the hell out of the birds, and my feathered neighbours are one of the great pleasures of life.

I think I will look for that petition and sign it.Ā 

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u/Proud_Nefariousness5 18h ago

With autonomous vehicles now not far away drones won’t be economically viable.

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u/No-Red-Queen 18h ago

How about no drones at all?

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u/Mysterious-Yak1693 14h ago

the trials were done in Australia, Canberra and a few other places. just sandwiches, coffee, cakes etc..

These look a little bigger. They're not actually that noisy, but you could see it become annoying when there are hundreds of these things flying around.

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u/RareGuidance312 13h ago

If it's like a chute or otherwise safe or perhaps max 300-400grams with a mini parachute I can see it being okay.

I don't want a BBQ delivered like this though

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u/tectonic-shit 4h ago

Quiet skies? Man, where do you live? I’m moving to your place!

I live 10 km from Moorabbin Airport. I have those farting machines flying over me day and night. Literally, every 2-5 minutes, there’s another motorcycle flying over my head. I don’t mind drones though. I’d send Bezos my last dollar if he could make those satanic creatures fly higher and leave the airspace closer to the ground to the drones...

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u/No-Stick-1190 4h ago

I think there come a point where there is so many drones flying around that they will start crashing into each other. I know they have built in systems to avoid this and they are designed for stationary objects. I doubt they will perform so well when 2 drones are heading towards each other at maxium speed.

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u/Draviddavid 1h ago

I doubt this will be an issue for many years, but when it happens it will be global news.

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u/Kelnius 1h ago

Only if they work well... so, no.