Did you find the whole misdirection of Batman thinking Riddler knew his identity clever and well-executed, or just a red herring?

I think Batman was visibly rattled by the possibility that his secret identity is out, especially at Riddler’s apartment. Could that fear of his secret identity getting exposed have distracted Batman from investigating thoroughly and uncovering the seawall bombing plot before it was too late? After all, it is only after he is reassured after the interrogation that Riddler doesn’t know his true identity that he could uncover the carpet underneath and realise Riddler’s true plan of bombing the seawalls and flooding Gotham, but it was too late.

Quite a fascinating plot choice. Would love to know thoughts of y’all!

10 years ago we had two superhero "vs" movies: Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice and Captain America: Civil War, which respectively had two of the biggest DC characters facing off and two of the biggest Marvel characters facing off. Not only that, the two movies were seen as facing off against each other, despite having different release months. Before they released, people online debated furiously which one would be better, and which would make more money.

And this was the same year as the most divisive presidential election in modern history. The United States itself became staunchly divided politically. There seemed to be a "them vs us" mindset everywhere. There was Team Trump vs Team Hillary, Team Cap vs Team Iron Man, Team DC vs Team Marvel. It was a hell of a time to be alive.

Then after both movies came out, there was a pretty clear consensus on which was the winner. In fact, it wasn't even close. One was widely deemed one of the best comic book movies ever made, and the other was widely deemed one of the worst comic book movies ever made. Plus the former grossed about $300M more in the box office than the latter. The Marvel hype train had full speed ahead and the DC hype train completely derailed.

It's just crazy to think that was 10 years ago. I still remember the months leading up to both movies' releases. I had some idea which one would be better, especially when the trailers came out, but was still super curious as to how they'd turn out. Hell, the day the Rotten Tomatoes score for Batman v Superman released was the most bombshell moment. The Internet went crazy that day. So many IMDb threads saying "HAHAHAHA I knew it!" or in total denial. Not to mention Deadpool coming out before either movie and turning the whole genre on its head.

Who else remembers that time, and what do you remember most from it? What "side" were you on, and what was your reaction to both movies' reception?

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I think projects focusing on characters who haven't been shown in live action could be really cool if they're allowed to exist in their own stylized universes. Something like the Spider-Noir works so well partly because it doesn't feel obligated to cram in modern-day references or constantly connect itself to everything else. It gets to become its own thing.(It's definitely deliberate in that case due to sony and disney but point still stands)

I think the Netflix-era shows benefited from this too. Even though they were technically placed after The Avengers, most of them were largely standalone and didn't constantly mention the MCU. That gave them room to build their own identities, fanbases and lore.

I'd love to see Marvel try this more deliberately with something like a Ben Reilly show, a Clone Saga project, or an 1602-style series. They'd be different enough to stand on their own while still using characters and ideas that audiences already recognize

I think it could have something to do with the sets, lighting, filters. Take the apartment Peter lives in for example. Or Ben and Mays house before he moved out. Or Norman's mansion. Or the sun tinted buildings during the daytime swinging scenes.

They kinda have this vibe like they could have come out of a 50s-60s film. Think Rear Window. These movies kinda feel anachronistic for the 2000s. Compare this to say something like The New Animated Series(which is kinda supposed to be a spinoff) which feels more 2000s with the electronic music, outfits, settings.

Why?

Probably Blade or X2 or DOFP. Can't decide on which one. Blade is dope it's a classic, one of a kind. Wesley caught lightning in a bottle with that one. Xmen 2 is the best Xmen film. It's got everything and that opening sequence with Nightcrawler is literal ecstasy. DOFP doesn't get enough love. They took the biggest storyline from the Xmen lore and turned it into a two hour emotional rollercoaster. So much depth, so much dread, high stakes, it's literally epic. The payoff is sound. It's the equivalent of Infinity war & Endgame in one film. The scale is immense.

Kyle Chandler as Superman

Works: Early Edition (1996—2000) King Kong (2005)

Marisa Tomei as Lois Lane

Works: My Cousin Vinny (1992) The Paper (1994)

David Krumholtz as Jimmy Olsen

Works: The Santa Clause (1994) 10 Things I Hate About You (1999)

John Mahoney as Perry White

Works: Frasier (1993—2004) The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)

Susan Sarandon as Martha Kent

Works: Stepmom (1998)

Robert Forster as Jonathan Kent

Works: Karen Sisco (2003)

Brad Garrett as Steve Lombard

Works: Everybody Loves Raymond (1996—2005)

Lisa Kudrow as Cat Grant

Works: Friends (1994—2004)

Phil Morris as Ron Troupe

Works: Seinfeld (1995–1998)

James Spader as Lex Luthor

Works: Wall Street (1987) Pretty in Pink (1986) The Blacklist (2014)

I came across a video a few weeks ago discussing the double standards between Marvel and DC, and honestly, I think they made some really good points.

Look at how people are treating James Gunn's DCU compared to how they treated the MCU.

The DCU is only five projects in, and four of them have been successes. The only real exception is Supergirl, and even then, I wouldn't exactly call it a disaster.

Yet somehow, people are already saying things like "The DCU is a flop," "Cancel the universe," and "Fire James Gunn."

Now compare that to Marvel.

During Phase One of the MCU, The Incredible Hulk underperformed, and the first Thor movie wasn't exactly universally loved. But nobody was demanding that Marvel cancel the entire MCU or fire everyone involved. People gave the franchise time to find its footing.

And look at some of Marvel's more recent projects:

• The Marvels
• Captain America: Brave New World
• She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
• Secret Invasion
• Thor: Love and Thunder

All of these received significant criticism, with some being considered among the weakest projects in the MCU.

Yet despite Marvel having multiple poorly received projects across an already established cinematic universe, people generally aren't treating every disappointment as proof that the entire MCU needs to be shut down.

Meanwhile, DC apparently isn't allowed to have even one underperforming project without people immediately declaring the whole universe dead.

Please tell me if you think this makes sense because its just baffling to me

Still my favorites

I think all of them are solid, but Avengers is my favorite because it all the superheros coming together at the end was very iconic to me as a kid.

In my opinion, it's one of the best love letters to musicals even though it's not traditional.

It respected the cartoon medium.

Originally it was going to be R first rated like the dark horse comics but they switched halfway through when they saw the potential for comedy. Jim Carrey brought.

And somehow kept many great references to the arcs of the first few issues and issue zero of the original dark horse comic run.

I do plan on ordering the comics after I saw a few videos talk about them.

Decided to make this because I've seen complaints of people saying there's no marketing of the film. So, it's up to us to make edits, share photos, get word around! Much love 🫶.

I thought it was a good movie, and one of Marvel's best animated movies.

I been living in jakarta so started watching them out if boredom, it's pretty fun. it's a connected universe based on old indonesian superhero ip. Even Virgo and the Sparklings which you can tell was rushed through production has a certain charm to it.

I'm gonna clarify this is mostly about the MCU, but also not really because I mention the Amazing Spider-Man.

I don't get why people hate lines. I don't care if they're not comic accurate or if they have no reason to be there, I fucking love lines. I love them. They look great, I don't get everybody shitting on them.

Spider-Man Homecoming. That suit is amazing, I think it's one of the best Spider-Man suits ever, obviously the Brand New Day suit is better, I'm not dense. The Amazing Spider-Man suit? Chef's kiss, please could I have some more? Iron-Spider in the MCU? Way too shiny, but if it wasn't so disgustingly shiny I'd love it.

And this isn't just about Spider-Man, I like the Captain America suit from Age of Ultron, I dunno if that counts as overdesigned though I've heard mixed responses on that. I liked the Taskmaster design. I also liked the Fant4stic designs.

And yes, I'm a fucking larper, I've read one random Spider-Man comic I got from my uncle years ago, and yes, the comic designs are great, but sometimes they just wouldn't look good in live action. Maybe that's a bad take, and a take spewed everywhere, but I don't care I think it's valid and lines are cool.

I just think overall, the overdesigned costumes are still cool. I'll die on this hill.

they literally show shane in the middle of it and she says the line at the end. no portal, no team, no city blowing up. just a tired old guy, a car and a kid he didn't ask for. would the same ending hit if it was a normal x-men movie or was the western thing the whole point???