r/comicbooks • u/Educational_Zone3156 • 12h ago
Movie/TV Inde Navarrette says the first time she met the rest of the X-Men cast was at D23. No chemistry tests were done beforehand.
https://www.goldderby.com/film/2026/inde-navarrette-interview-obsession-oscars/93
u/mattnotis 5h ago
It’s fine. She’ll just be in a blue room the whole time taking to a tennis ball attached to a fishing pole
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u/Sirmalta 12h ago
I feel like Disney hasn't bothered with chemistry tests since tom Holland.
They're pretty over the stuff that made their movies good.
Though on the one hand at least they're casting new actors and not Hollywood a listers for the x men. On the other hand they basically grabbed all the current hottest indie film actors of the year, likely with no real consideration of their fit or, obviously, chemistry.
Thankfully I think they're all solid enough to pull off whatever they need to for these roles.
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u/confusing_roundabout 12h ago
Yeah the cast chemistry is one of the things that make the movies work. Really hope this doesn't backfire on them.
My big complaint about F4 is that I didn't feel the chemistry between the main 4.
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u/ColdDesertEagle 4h ago
Just realized I haven't given Johnny Storm a second thought at all, when as a kid he was one of the coolest characters.
I guess they kinda stripped him of everything that would make him appealing and interesting
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u/Vashek19 7h ago
I was surprised how little chemistry Kirby and Pascal had on screen, because they seemed to have a ton of chemistry during their press interviews prior to the release.
Johnny Storm was just a terrible casting choice.
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u/FlowerRoomLord 7h ago
Yeah Reed and Sue are arguably the two where you need to do a chemistry test. And Pascal got plucked up at the height of Mandalorian fame and I think he'd been cast in TLOU as well before F4. Still don't care for him but his one scene with Doom seems like the Russos sre shaking something out of him.
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u/no_es_buen0 5h ago
You don't care for him? Bold. Hot take lmao
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u/FlowerRoomLord 5h ago
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not but I wasn't feeling his casting and the movie didn't really do much to win me over. The one I ended up coming away liking was Quinn's Johnny and I'm usually not a fan of Johnny.
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u/Mustang-_- 4h ago
That little moment of Pascal screaming is just meeh. I think he is a terrible actor, there's no balance, a caricature either way: the extreme bland average joe, or just scream like a lunatic and make faces (his acting in Wonder Woman 2 is egregiously bad). That little moment between him and Dr Downey, looks like another one of those moments of overacting
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u/Mustang-_- 9h ago
F4 was a miscast disaster, only Vanessa Kirby performed a decent job in this movie alongside the CGi cartoons (Galactus and the Surfer)
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u/confusing_roundabout 9h ago
Yeah I thought Joseph Quinn was bad. Pedro Pascal acted well but he wasn't Reed Richards.
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u/Mustang-_- 8h ago
Torch was arguably the weakest of the bunch, because he actually had an arc and screen time, but it fluked, really mediocre acting with zero charisma (a character that is supposed to be a charming playboy). Pascal as Pascal, the most average joe imaginable. The Thing without the mannerisms and accent, sounded depressed the whole movie. It was a disaster, MCU F4 is a mediocre movie at best
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u/Deathbysnusnu17 8h ago
Not to take away from your point. But the director and actor both publicly stated changing Johnny Storms character to get away from the playboy characteristics was intentional.
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u/Mustang-_- 7h ago
You can still be charming without the playboy gimmick. Dude was just a piece of nothingness. When Chris Evans played the character, at least he had the good looks and the cheerful attitude, he tried
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u/Deathbysnusnu17 7h ago
Well, he was charming. It was more of a brotherly way. He was more family focused. Does it hit the same to audiences? I don't think so.
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u/HermesMora 6h ago
Yeah everyone acts like it was the first accurate F4 movie or something when nah it's still super inaccurate it just isn't as bad as the other ones in that regard. I mean, they made Galactus in to a cartoonish evil villain and retconned Franklin's powers for no reason
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u/Mustang-_- 4h ago
Just another example of fanboys deluding themselves. They want a decent Fantastic 4 movie so badly, ends up overly praising garbage. C'mon, Pascal with that ridiculous mustache, acting like the most bland average joe in existence, barely resembles a human being (it was like he and the dude who played The Thing were on auto-pilot), and this is supposed to be a good Fantastic 4 movie? Stop it, this MCU movie is just as mediocre as the previous Fox movies. Not only Galactus is cartoonish evil, don't forget the Scooby-Doo moment in the city (at least the CGi model itself and the voice, they are good)
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u/didtheyhavesextho 8h ago
It does make you wonder if it’s because all the discourse you hear about the main Avengers cast these days. While they may have had chemistry early on, it can grow resentment down the line as well. So why bother, just try to build it over time instead.
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u/monkeytargetto 10h ago
"Likely with no real consideration of their fit or chemistry"
So you think they're just winging it for a such a big IP?
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u/Leather_Box9494 10h ago
Surely you can’t think they’re not after we have so many examples recently of Disney winging it
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u/Parenteau-Control 10h ago
Like they did with Star Wars?
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u/MrMustardMix 9h ago
Well they were doing that with Khang and now Doomsday so that's possible for anything at this point.
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u/Sirmalta 6h ago
No I think they're playing it extremely safe and focusing on the "we need a new generation of fans".
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u/Mustang-_- 9h ago
Talking about Holland, it's ironic because you would imagine Holland and Zendaya are supposed to have chemistry, as a real couple (similar to Garfield and Emma Stone in their respective Spider-Man movies), but goddamn they are so awful lol especially Zendaya, she simply can't act. Holland is a decent actor and he is clearly trying, but Zendaya is a zombie, their romance is not believable at all. And here we are, this X-Men reboot relies a lot on Jean and Cyclops to have good chemistry, if not, it will be another example of these sauceless characters being just meeh for the hundredth time
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u/fat-wizard 9h ago edited 9h ago
Tom and Jon had better chemistry in the new movie than Tom and Zendaya. This isn’t a shot at Zendaya in the movie, I think she and Tom were good, but the best scenes were Spidey and Frank.
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u/enjoiYosi 12h ago
They rarely even film with other actors. Have you heard some of the interviews about Avengers Doomsday? They don’t even know who they are interacting with on screen, because they film each actor separately and piece it all together with CGI and digital editing.
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u/Toadforpresident 11h ago
You can tell watching the trailer. The whole thing had this eerie sort of unreal feel to it. I don't really mean that as a compliment.
Bit of a sad way to make movies imo.
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u/RoninRonanAgamotto Shazam 10h ago
It's one of my biggest issues with MCU, I don't align with their movie making process, especially how they choose to do the shooting process.
If MCU had to learn anything from Eternals, it was the practical on-location shooting. Despite how the movie was received, it was gorgeous and beautiful to look at, it's one takeaway they should've inferred from that movie.
The blending of CGI with the natural location footage, imo, always gives the best possible result.
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u/MANJAKANIazure 9h ago
"The blending of CGI with the natural location footage, imo, always gives the best possible result."
Is it ? Not a professional but I remember the tropical arena from the hunger games and some shots in the jungle felt good but around the cornopecia the blending of real-shot beach with the CGI was nightmarish
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u/AirotheWavedancer 6h ago
To be fair, the Hunger Games movies were crunched like crazy so they could come out every 12 months
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u/RecommendationFew466 The Riddler 8h ago
Well this isn’t true, they did film with other people. The actors themselves have talked about the experience of meeting the othere on set and even said there was a day like 30 people were on set with one another. Only reason Alan Cumming did his scenes alone was because of his schedule and cumberbatch did the same with IW. Thats just the nature of shooting massive ensemble pieces like this. I don’t quite understand why people have taken this to mean every Marvel Studios film is filmed like this.
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u/Toadforpresident 8h ago
That's fair, I haven't really watched any of the interviews the OP is referring to.
I was more responding from my own sense of watching these movies and nothing feeling real. Like I'm always aware I'm just watching a bunch of people on a soundstage where 90% of what's happening was done in post.
But that's a separate thing from actors performing alone. So fair play
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u/TheGhostInThe___ 10h ago
It’s worse than that clip of Ian McKellen crying on the set of The Hobbit imo.
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u/jez124 9h ago
Eh....thats kind of worse imo since you know what you are getting with these MCU and other scale blockbuster movies. Id assume going from the LOTR to Hobbit movies was a bit different.
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u/TheGhostInThe___ 9h ago
It was one scene and not the whole movie. That’s all the MCU Movies are.
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u/CelestianSnackresant 7h ago
The hobbit was pretty close to an MCU production. TONS of green screen. It was a very different set than LotR, despite so many of the same creatives. Then there was the massive nationwide unionbusting thing...
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u/TheGhostInThe___ 7h ago
Yes but all the cast was still there.
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u/mjac1090 4h ago
So the interviews with cast members talking about there being 30 different people on set at once were them lying?
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u/Robofink 8h ago
The Marvel actors are more like hype men these days. They do six months of shooting alone on a green screen and another year for the press tour all for a sweet A-lister salary. A new beach house doesn’t pay for itself.
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u/IWouldLikeAName 10h ago
It was completely obvious with the latest captain America movie they also do multiple reshoots in that way and it's also obvious
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u/Ding_Bingus 10h ago
Whoever is calling shots on the direction of mcu needs to go and they need to use all the story transition as a chance to shake up the approach and style of filmmaking too. Movies by committee suck
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u/Local_Anything191 10h ago
Clueless Redditors lol. You guys are saying this as Doomsday is all but locked in to be the highest grossing movie of all time. Domestic opening is already going to be minimum 400 million which has literally never happened before
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u/No_Macaroon_5928 9h ago
It sure is gonna make money no doubt about that but the quality is the one most are talking about here lol.
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u/Local_Anything191 8h ago
You can just search online for leaks. It’s testing internally from early reviews to be one of the best MCU movies to date. It’s also written by someone with a great track record - and writing is what dictates whether a movie has the possibility of being good or not.
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u/BagZCubed 7h ago
I've heard the opposite and that they had difficulties trying to cobble together an edit for the movie.
Every Marvel movie has to be the best since Winter Soldier after all.
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u/Local_Anything191 7h ago
Link me where it says that. I have a feeling I know exactly what you’re talking about and I’m gonna laugh if I’m right
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u/BagZCubed 7h ago
It's only a rumor posted on Twitter. It was the same as your "internal testing." It was called "a humorless, harrowing blood bath," or something.
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u/Local_Anything191 6h ago
That’s the EXACT one I was talking about ahaha. It was first posted by a parody mcu account with like 200 followers. It’s 100% confirmed fake
Mine is from an actual confirmed source: https://variety.com/2026/film/features/disney-ceo-josh-damaro-star-wars-marvel-ai-1236671533/
Gotta love Redditors. This place is a joke. You’re a top 1% commenter too, parroting proven fake “leaks”. Lord have mercy
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u/awesomesonofabitch The Maxx 9h ago
Making money does not mean it's going to be a good movie.
The MCU sloppers love their slop.
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u/BagZCubed 7h ago
True. A lot of people like to think money = quality, then have a movie that has a bad story and terrible visuals that makes 1 billion+.
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u/Local_Anything191 8h ago
You’re talking to a guy that hasn’t seen even half of the MCU. If it’s successful and makes them money, they’ll continue to do it, not sure why your small brain has trouble grasping that idea.
MCU has made over 35 billion dollars and is the leading movie franchise. The second leading movie franchise has made less than a third of that. And you ask why the MCU does what it does? Gee I wonder
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u/Toadforpresident 8h ago
I have no doubt it's gonna make a boatload of money. That's not relevant at all really to what we're talking about.
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u/Local_Anything191 8h ago
It’s completely relevant though. You’re asking why they do X thing. They do X thing because it’s very successful. Businesses like success because success = money.
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u/Toadforpresident 8h ago
Where did I ask why it was successful? I think you need to reread my original comment.
I was just sharing my own feelings on it which is not impacted by how much money the movie makes.
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u/Local_Anything191 8h ago
I replied to a guy who said they need to fire the guy who is calling the shots of the MCU. Please use your brain
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u/Mustang-_- 9h ago
This can well be the second coming of Batman v Superman, lol the movie made big money in the first weekend, but then... the word of mouth spread. Dune 3 will probably be the greatest benefactor if Doomsday is indeed as bad as it looks
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u/Local_Anything191 8h ago
There’s not really a point in me replying to you. I can tell you’re not keeping up to date with any news
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u/Mustang-_- 7h ago
This is not about "keeping up with the news", just trying to predict the outcome of this movie besides the first weekend. Regardless of the initial numbers, I'm willing to bet the word of mouth will be negative (and that will affect the final box office)
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u/Mustang-_- 9h ago
Doomsday is looking terrible, no reason to sugarcoat. Even if grandpa Downey Jr is not an imposing figure to play Dr. Doom (I jokingly call him Dr. Midget), at least his costume looks pretty good. But again, a Dr. Doom cosplayer in a grayish CGi mess, Thor and the Walmart Cashiers, etc.. I am curious to watch Secret Wars tho, but Doomsday not so much
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u/SwampApeDraft 11h ago
We’re a long way from that circling shot of the team from the first Avengers
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u/Cipherpunkblue 9h ago
And the scripts are constantly being rewritten, so at times it is uncertain if anyone knows for sure.
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u/SlimmyShammy 10h ago
Obviously I wasn’t there so I can’t say for certain lol but I feel like people are mostly saying this off comments from Alan Cumming who had a weird schedule to shoot around. Feige’s mentioned before that there’s scenes with over 30 actors all in the same room, I don’t think anyone’s mentioned having to shoot on their own besides Cumming.
I’m pretty sure something similar happened with Cumberbatch shooting Infinity War/Endgame
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u/enjoiYosi 10h ago
I mean, the Hobbit had the same issue, it’s pretty standard these days
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u/SlimmyShammy 10h ago
I remember Lee and McKellen shot separately, but that was also like a decade ago.
I think some people assume literally every actor shot stuff separately and is getting drag and dropped into scenes lol. There’s plenty of stuff to criticise the Russos on but I think people online also just make stuff up and run with it
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u/enjoiYosi 10h ago
They also did this with the Rock and Vin Diesel. It’s a normal trick but overdone with Marvel
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u/enjoiYosi 10h ago
The shots look artificial from the trailer. There is no way the actors actually worked together on set
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u/SlimmyShammy 10h ago
So you think every single actor shot everything separately?
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u/enjoiYosi 9h ago
No, I don’t think every actor. But they probably didn’t film more than 3 or 4 people together in a scene
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u/marccass 11h ago
I think possibly with something like Doomsday and how enormous that cast is, for some scenes it's probably inevitable. I imagine you're referring to the comments made by Alan Cumming and Florence Pugh filming an action scene with different stunt people separately and then that being spliced together later. I think with action scenes, which in Nightcrawler's case will be mostly CGI anyway—it's totally fine. I'm confident for actual scenes where they need to dialogue together, they will be in the same room and filmed in the traditional way, just as Endgame and Infinity War were.
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u/MinerDoesStuff 2h ago
That may be the case with doomsday but I don’t think that’s Jake Schreier’s style. They’re also bringing the production designer from Loki and Fantastic Four in so I don’t think it’ll be as much of an over reliance on digital VFX
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u/enjoiYosi 1h ago
Loki didn’t even have a real set… it was all green screen in a box
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u/rednaxthecreature 34m ago
I guess they should actually go to space or the tree of life to film?
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u/enjoiYosi 7m ago
Or build a set? Marvel films in a giant green screen studio, watch behind the scenes footage. There is no set
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u/Responsible-Bank440 11h ago
That totally doesn't sound completely insane and like it's gonna backfire.
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u/Exact-Difference-422 5h ago
I mean, they wind up acting alone to green screens and tennis balls so I figure Disney doesn't care
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u/FacehuggerFanatic 6h ago
Why would she need to do a chemistry test anyway? She's an actor, not a chemist.
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u/Kongcha 9h ago
Sadie Sink already mentioned she had chemistry tests with some of the cast
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u/Educational_Zone3156 8h ago
Source?
Only one I saw was this, which is literally the opposite. https://deadline.com/2026/08/sadie-sink-x-men-filming-update-cyclops-casting-1237029050/
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u/Sevennationsmarmy 12h ago
Odd, if there's a chem test then I would think X-Men is a high necessity project to prioritize it.
That said she's in the "so hot in a likable way" category so maybe they just assume she'll work with anyone. Or maybe they don't care until they have to cast a Gambit.
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u/TheReallyUncoolDude Venom 11h ago
I think for rogue it makes sense since she was originally apart of magnetos brotherhood. She should feel like the odd one out for this first film. It's the main X-Men that desperately need the chemistry. Jean and Scott need to be good together, storm and Scotts mutual respect and competitiveness against each other as leaders should be portrayed well. Angel and Scott need to be prickly and banter quite a bit, angel and beast need to be bros and etc. hopefully even without a chemistry test they manage to pull it off
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u/Plus_Claim_8938 7h ago
They’re not going to let Storm be a co-leader bro. She’s getting shipped off to Wakanda before she can say a full sentence.
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u/Black_hoursCuh1991 10h ago
And that’s the problem. Why are they cutting corners now when back in the days they had test screenings and chemistry tests? That’s why so many films feel so bland and inorganic nowadays.
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u/Earthmine52 9h ago
Superman (2025) and Lanterns both had chemistry tests. Specifically between Clark and Lois actors, and Hal and John actors. IIRC The Batman (2022) also did the same with Bruce and Selina. The results speak for themselves too. So at the very least, DC is bringing it back.
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u/RogueKnight77 6h ago
The results were good, as both of those dynamics are some of the best parts of those respective movies
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u/RogueKnight77 6h ago
Old movies had better texture, a feeling that you were coming in on a dynamic that already existed.
Nowadays it becomes very apparent, with a shallow depth of field, poor writing that you are watching an entertainment product. It’s much harder to believe the world you’re entering
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u/AtCarnage 8h ago
Marvel barely shoots anything with where the actors are in the same room anyway. It's basically a voice acting gig.
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u/Black_hoursCuh1991 8h ago edited 5h ago
I concur. Do they not know that the pandemic is over and the need to social distance is not required?
Whoa, what’s with the downvotes?
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u/Char-els037 6h ago
Me when I concur with someone else's drivel
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u/Black_hoursCuh1991 5h ago
Not sure why you call it “nonsense” when there’s nothing “drivel” about wanting better quality entertainment. Weird.
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u/kmone1116 29m ago edited 22m ago
Pretty wild to not do a chemistry test for the team that’s pretty well know for how dynamic the teams chemistry is.
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u/Black_hoursCuh1991 25m ago
Exactly. Not only that, but during press runs when they are doing marketing tours. It may not mean much to some, but a bunch of casuals, at times, make their decision to watch a film based off those cast interviews that be going viral on YouTube.
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u/Dazzling-Slide8288 7h ago
Because they set deadlines years in advance. Disney needed something to show at their marketing presentation. That’s why they rushed it.
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u/PineapplePhil 6h ago
Something to James Gunn’s credit with regard to the new Superman movie, I suppose.
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u/polakbob 8h ago
No need for on-screen chemistry when they're going to film you individually on green screens for everything.
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u/Spyd3rPunk 7h ago
Was there a chemistry test when actors were being chosen for the Avengers?
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u/DoneWithIt0101 4h ago
I'm not sure about the Avengers, but I think Holland was tested with Evans and RDJ.
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u/m0rbius 9h ago
It seems like they just cast people they thought would be a good fit and are popular now. It could go south. I feel they should have at least done screen tests between Sink and Conner.
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u/Educational_Zone3156 8h ago
She was deliberately kept away from the cyclops casting process
https://deadline.com/2026/08/sadie-sink-x-men-filming-update-cyclops-casting-1237029050/
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u/Funkyneat 6h ago
Marvel has been doing that for almost 20 years. They are constantly picking actors who were on a popular, well received tv series
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u/LaunchpadMcFly 2h ago
You can tell if you saw the D23 footage. They all looked so awkward around one another.
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u/AcronymTheSlayer 7h ago
I really hope Sadie and Kit have chemistry cause I need Jean and cyclops to click.
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u/coppernaut1080 6h ago
Would make sense for them not to for me. The X-Men team mostly didn't know each other as it was being formed so maybe this helps keep that more genuine. Or maybe not. Just an opinion.
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u/fringyrasa 32m ago
Chemistry tests are usually for the leads, which Rogue would not be considered a lead in this. But MCU specifically rarely does chemistry tests. The director got this job for working very well with the team dynamic in Thunderbolts, he should be able to do the same here.
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u/SparkyPantsMcGee The Question 10h ago edited 8h ago
Considering Disney barely films these characters in the same room I’m not shocked, but this is the fucking X-Men. The chemistry of these characters is such an important part.
I only want Doomsday to fail (it won’t) because I truly want Disney/Marvel to break away from this method. Not to make this a Marvel vs DC thing but going from Lanterns to Vision Quest was a crazy whiplash because (amongst other things) there are so many scenes where I can feel Paul Bettany standing alone on a soundstage.
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u/dsbwayne Jean Grey 11h ago
I can understand it. They’re a group of people being pulled together to work together for the first time. Let’s the bonds form
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u/sabhall12 12h ago
I think that's fine, they will have time to do chemistry tests when they're together. All of these actors should be good enough to nail the interactions.
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u/RhodProton 6h ago
Flavor of the month casting.
Feige probably scrambling to get Austin Abrams casted in something as well
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u/HermesMora 6h ago
I kind of like that for a first X-Men team tbr, they're meant to be disparate teens from troubled backgrounds who didn't know eachother beforehand. Let them get their chemistry over filming and continue it to the next movie.
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u/galacticwinnow 11h ago
Her character doesn't need chemistry test.
They are meant to be mostly lost and meeting Xavier in the movie.
They all can act and read the script.
That's all that is required.
Unless there is romance or familial bond, chemistry tests are useless for many parts in this movie.
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u/Jolly_Echo_3814 11h ago
no chemistry tests are needed lol everyone is already hired. im pretty sure the point of a chemistry test is to hire the people who have the best chemistry.
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u/Far_Cat_9743 9h ago
I mean, they’ll be filming 95% of their scenes in front green screens, and most of the time by themselves or with their stunt double, on screen chemistry doesn’t matter much with these films tbh. The Marvel and DC blockbusters have become an assembly line process of casting, shooting scenes/stunts, fix everything with CGI, edit, release, cross fingers it’s profitable.
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u/tardisrider613 11h ago
Exactly what is meant by "chemistry test"? There is absolutely no way whatsoever during casting that people didn't discuss "Yeah, we think they'll be good together because. . . ."
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u/Both_Cartoonist_611 She-Hulk 10h ago
Chemistry testing in casting involves getting the actors together to run test scenes before you actually cast anyone, to basically check the vibes when the actors are together. Some people really vibe and some people are really stiff together, depending on who you have paired up. It's a pretty important step in casting.
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u/CosmoWarriorZero1971 5h ago
Why is Rogue in the X-Men before Logan? We all know Sony screwed up the team continuity, but it looks as if Disney is skewing a bit
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u/KeeganTroye 5h ago
Because a lot of work has been created with Wolverine front and center and less with Rogue so it's a more interesting character to see on screen, imo
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u/lord-of-shalott 5h ago
Disagree. Rogue works best as grayer character initially caught between X-Men and Brotherhood who is eventually welcomed and mentored by her comrades.
I know movies take a while to make but throwing everything at once is why marvel films have been suffering from bloat.
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u/KeeganTroye 4h ago
It isn't everything, unless it has more characters than you would expect from an X-Men movie it is perfectly fine for Rogue to be present with a history as a greyish character.
We don't need backstories all the time.
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u/No_Macaroon_5928 9h ago
Is this actually news? The only chemistry these people have are with the money that were thrown their way lol
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u/pizzacrys Spider-Man Expert 12h ago
No chemistry tests at all? That makes me even more curious to see how this cast clicks on screen.