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u/twizbuck 3d ago
Ukraine needs to take out more data centers
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u/Isengrine 3d ago
A lot of data centers for bots are also located in Israel, which I doubt Ukraine will attack soon.
Redditors seem to conveniently forget that it wasnt just Russia running bit farms, but almost every major power is, as proven by Reddit accidentally leaking that Eglin Airforce Base was the most Reddit active city.
Hell, even non-state actors like companies are doing so.
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u/Cat_world_domination 3d ago
I agree, but why is that your first response to this comic?
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u/twizbuck 3d ago
I realize I left something out lol... my comment was about the comments in this thread.
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u/Cat_world_domination 3d ago
Those comments were mostly pro-Israel bots though. I don't think those data centers are based in Russia.
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u/DovahjunDontCare 3d ago
They very likely are. Data centers are for sale and very helpful for shifting public opinion. Public opinion shifted to more anti Isreal recently so you better believe Isreal is paying for data centers.
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u/Cat_world_domination 3d ago
Wouldn't they pay one of their allies for them though, instead of Russia?
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u/hunkaliciousnerd 3d ago
Russia is an ally in that it keeps people angry and divided and does it all for a price. They know how wildly unpopular they are, how much of a pariah state they become every month, they know the only reason they still have support is their hold on foreign governments. Anything to stem the tide or cause more chaos to buy themselves more time, they'll deal with anyone
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u/SverigeSuomi 3d ago
Russia is pro-Palestine, so their bots also lean pro-Palestine. Abbas did his PhD in Russia for example. Destroying Russian data centers will have the opposite effect of what you're hoping for.
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u/diamondmx 1d ago
Russia is probably pro whatever fucks up the US the most. So the US government continuing to support a genocide their populace hates is very much a Russian win.
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u/TFFPrisoner 3d ago
Russia is in cahoots with Iran
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u/Finrod-Knighto 2d ago
They’re a strategic ally to curb US influence. They’re not ideologically or materially pro-Palestine. They trade and cooperate with Israel just fine.
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u/Kel-Mitchell 3d ago
The woman drinking wine would fit in perfectly on Nickelodeon's Doug.
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u/itsbenpassmore 3d ago
that’s my era, I am very ancient.
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u/TheTacticalViper 3d ago
Don’t say that…. That would mean…
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u/TheVoice106point7 2d ago
Man. I sure miss when things were peaceful, when the only fire and explosions to worry about were the shifting of tectonic plates and occassional celestial body changing the landscape of creation.
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u/frantruck 3d ago
That does basically sum up the Internet’s view of the conflict
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u/Cutwail 3d ago
The whole 'antizionism is antisemitism' angle is pushed so hard by just about every media outlet, regardless of perceived political leaning, to the point where it seems like the string-pullers aren't even bothering to hide anymore.
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u/Alternative_Mode9972 3d ago
How I wish this was just a joke. I’m not gonna sugar coat it: there are a lot of bad people out there of various races and beliefs that should be held accountable but subjugating select people from countries and cultures by the actions of few is something that shouldn’t happen but does.
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u/Femcel_Bambi 3d ago
Imagine a world where saying that a place shouldn't be forcibly colonized is a controversial statement.
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u/T_Weezy 3d ago edited 3d ago
To be fair, Hamas did invade Israel, kill thousands of civilians and and kidnap hundreds more. And also they've been occasionally shooting rockets at Tel Aviv for decades; the fact that Israel's missile defense system has an excellent track record of shooting those rockets down doesn't change the fact that they constitute attacks.
But to be balanced, Israel's response has been nearly as disproportionate as the US' after 9/11, and somehow even more hamfisted. It's so bad, in fact, that it is reasonable to conclude, as I and many others have, that Israel's intent is not to protect itself but to annihilate the Palestinian people in what many, myself included, justifiably consider to be a genocide.
Basically this is a situation where there are evil elements controlling the governments of both sides of the conflict; the genocidal Netanyahu regime on the Israeli side and the equally genocidal Hamas leadership on the Palestinian side. And their respective civilians are caught in the middle. The only difference is that Israel has such a massive upper hand that their civilians are generally safe from Hamas, whereas Palestinian civilians are absolutely not safe from the Netanyahu Regime.
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u/AverageAggravating13 3d ago edited 3d ago
To further reinforce this, Netanyahu reportedly has gotten lots flak in Israel’s government for “not going far enough”. Some truly evil people up in there.
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u/El_kirbs 2d ago
Israel is a good example of why sometime having multiple parties isn’t as good people make it out to seem. In order to form the majority coalition they give more power to smaller more radical parties. Not too say Netanyahu isn’t responsible
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u/Whoobie_ 3d ago
Israel has been militarily occupying Gaza for over twenty years, with daily killing and injury of Palestinian civilians, including children.
even if 10/7 had been twice as deadly it would still only have been a fraction of the death and suffering Israel has caused to people who's only crime was living next to a colonial apartheid state.
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u/Downtown_Degree3540 3d ago
Israel maintained a military blockade of the land and sea borders of Gaza for more than 2 decades during the same period “Israel completely left it.”
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u/Whoobie_ 3d ago
exactly. they withdrew the settlers so they could turn Gaza into an open air prison
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u/Careful_Contract_806 2d ago
"equally genocidal" ok bud
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u/T_Weezy 2d ago
A pissed off hawk may want to kill you; he just can't. Doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't attach knives to his talons and teach him to wield them with deadly proficiency.
God, those things are some of the most annoying enemies in all of Elden Ring. Even worse than the billion handed monstrosities that just emerge from the ground and slap you to death.
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u/Stilgar314 3d ago
Israel kickstared Hamas. It casts a fresh light on the situation, doesn't it?
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u/moontraveler12 3d ago
Where the fuck did all these Zionists come from
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u/Bwob 3d ago
Well, this existed, back in 2017. (wikipedia) Who knows what they're doing these days.
Act.IL (also Act-IL) is a social networking service used by supporters of Israel to oppose online "anti-Israel content" such as the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement (BDS). Its activities were referred to as "an online propaganda campaign" and "a virtual situation room of pro-Israel experts".
Act.IL directed its users to "missions" to like, comment on, and share pro-Israel material on social media. It also asked users to flag, report, and respond to criticisms of Israel. Users were guided on how to respond, which might entail writing a reply using the provided talking points, or sharing or upvoting an allied comment. The app also provided users with ready-made memes promoting Israel's perspective for them to share. By completing missions users earned points, unlocked badges, and had their scores displayed on leaderboards.
The gamification of astroturfing. :-\
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u/Cutwail 3d ago
There is an entire arm of the Israeli government that just shits out propaganda nonstop, including astroturfing and shitting up comments sections.
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u/Kronikarz 3d ago
It's because Palestine doesn't have the firepower to destroy whatever the Israeli equivalent of a Yandex data center is.
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u/Wereking2 3d ago
You can program users/bots to keyword search places like Reddit to specifically brigade posts like this. Social media nowadays is very easy to brigade, dead internet theory is surprisingly accurate.
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u/Tough-Stomach-2960 3d ago
It happened, but we agree that a fucking genocide was a strong answer
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u/TKCLE8 3d ago
The world famously began in 2023. No history before that date.
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u/piepei 3d ago
Terrorism never will and never has led to peace or prosperity. But since October 7th Israel is now being a terrorist every week. They’re both wrong imo
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u/OldBoringWeirdo 3d ago
You're right. There were a bunch of intifadas, bombings, attacks on Israeli citizens, and wars.
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u/TKCLE8 3d ago
…and nothing else, ever.
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u/Koalinse 3d ago
How far back do we need to go until you are satisfied? We can go back to the Hebron Massacre of 1929, when Palestinians went into the Anti Zionist Jewish community in Hebron and slaughtered 65+ Jews while they were sleeping. Or we could go to the 19th century when Palestinians spread blood libel. Or maybe, we can go to 1834 when Palestinians and Druze slaughtered and raped several Jews.
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u/OldBoringWeirdo 3d ago
Pretending everything started on October 7th is as disingenuous as pretending everything started on October 8th
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u/Mod_The_Man 3d ago
Literally yes, “isreal” has a well documented history of attacking peaceful protesters and civilians. Even before 2023 “isreal” would go as far as to target children and the disabled during peaceful protests like the March of Return.
The very founding of “isreal” is predicated on extreme and merciless violence towards innocents. Ever heard of the Nakba? Nearly a million indigenous Palestinians murdered or expelled from their land by zionist terrorist squads. Those same terrorist squads would later join together to form the IOF
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u/MaximumSyrup3099 3d ago
Careful. Criticism of an ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing in an apartheid state is apparently anti-Semitic.
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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire 3d ago
The problem is anti-Semites do attach themselves to the free Palastine movement. And they aren't called out as often as they should be because everyone involved is such a hardliner on the issue. Understandably so, but this is one of the problems that comes with that.
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u/ffxivfanboi 3d ago
Fuck the any and everybody that supports that warmonger Netanyahu. Bastard is literally no better or different than Putin.
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u/okbuddyquackery 3d ago
The problem doesn’t end with Netanyahu or even the Likud
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u/Cat_world_domination 3d ago
Making a comic about the murder of Palestinians isn't the same as denying the murder of Jews.
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u/sudomatrix 3d ago
Narrator: "It was, in fact, long and complicated."
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u/Daressalaam5 3d ago
Are you actually serious about 3 wars?!
1920s and 1930s skirmishes and massacres, 1947 civil war, 1948 Arab Israel war, 1967 6 day war, 1956 war with Egypt, 1973 Yom Kippur war, 1975-1990 Lebanon Civil war, 1987-1993 First Intifada, 2000-2005 second intifada, 2006 Lebanon war, 2009 Gaza war, 2012 Gaza war, 2014 Gaza war, 2021 Gaza war, 2023-present WAR
Bit more than 3 wars
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u/Melodic-Piccolo5751 3d ago edited 3d ago
Could you provide an example of such neutral source? Comments like this are worthless. Educate us.
Instead of downvoting this to hell, y'all could suggest some of those neutral sources. Just one. Title, author, etc.
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u/Mammoth-Support-826 3d ago
I had the great honor of listening live to lectures from a Palestinian history lecturer from Gaza teaching together with an Israeli history professor, they showed us how there is an active attempt to block each side from information regarding the conflict and frame a different picture , you can see it by watching how articles are different in Arabic compared to English on Wikipedia and so on. The best thing you can do is try to understand the Israeli and Palestinian view point separately (thought the Israeli side is more divided in opinion). Or you can just believe in human nature that most people just want their family to be happy and this conflict is beyond their ability to control
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u/mortal_plagueITA 3d ago edited 3d ago
Sorry but the missile only killed 1 person and didn’t do 100 ‘’collaterals’’. Not accurate /s
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u/Zaddex12 3d ago
Love this. I hope this subreddit is kind to you. It is not always for certain marginalized groups.
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u/itsbenpassmore 3d ago
i appreciate that. I’m used to the internet at this point tho. been Black on yhe internet since the 90s
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u/itsbenpassmore 3d ago
getting downvoted for this really only proving my point.
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u/AccurateJerboa 3d ago
I saw that! You were at like -5 before the brigade got booted. Fuckin crazy
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u/Zaddex12 3d ago
I just noticed how bad it can be when I realized I am one of those marginalized groups. Now I get downvotes for regular comments outside of trans spaces.
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u/NewDemonStrike 3d ago
True. Happens to me too.
And particularly when the topic is about trans people in a community I have been in since 2018. People need to be kinder.
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u/south153 3d ago
Do you really think Russia is pro Israel?
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u/HeWhoVotesUp 3d ago
They are pro conflict and know that getting people angry over Palestine is a wedge issue that can get a small but significant percentage of potential democratic voters to stay home on Election Day.
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u/Altruistic_Night2 3d ago
Idk why people don’t act like Russia isn’t more than willing to agitate on both sides for whatever drives apathy
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u/itsbenpassmore 3d ago
if it’s not bots they’re not regular users of the sub. they gonna get the ban hammer
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u/amurgiceblade44 3d ago
All the talk on terrorism is more likely then not a smokescreen. Not totally unfounded but in the current circumstances? A blatant casus belli
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u/Accomplished_Ebb9859 3d ago
Great comic!
Get ready to have every post you ever made mass reported.
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u/SourceCompetitive980 3d ago
This was an interesting way to summon the hordes of hasbara bots
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