r/dividendgang • u/RetiredByFourty • 2h ago
r/dividendgang • u/[deleted] • Feb 25 '26
General Discussion John Bogle was actual very pro-dividend investing and strongly discourage and dislike any form of timing the market (that includes the garbage 4% rule) - Which is completely opposite of what the Boogerhead cult is preaching.
Bogle, J. C. (2007). The Little Book of Common Sense Investing (Chapter 6)
Finally, what’s most important when we retire is the stream of income we need to support our needs—the dividend checks we receive from our mutual fund investments and the monthly checks we receive from our Social Security payments.
Yes, the market value of our capital is important. But frequent peeking at the value of our investments is not only unproductive, but counterproductive. What we really seek is retirement income that is steady and, if possible, grows with inflation.
Bonds have an underlying rate of return—the yield, or the coupon if you will, when you buy it. Stocks have an underlying rate of return—it’s the dividend yield plus the subsequent earning growth. So they have support there, and they’re in most circumstances largely investment and only to a lesser extent speculation. Investment being those underlying characteristics.
Bogle, J. C. (2010). Interview with Forbes.
What people should be doing, honestly Tom, is stop looking at the silly stock market every day and look at the cash flow they get.
Bogle, J. C. (2014). Interview with Motley Fool
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For stocks, you probably want to look at more of a dividend bias. You could buy a high-yield dividend index instead of the total stock market index if capital flows. That dividend if you look at the stream of dividends — it makes the stock market look violently volatile. The dividend stream goes up, up, up. The fact of the matter is, there have only been two significant dividend cuts since 1925.
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What you’re trying to do when you retire which I am gonna do someday, when you do that you want to ensure a monthly flow of income so don’t watch the market just make sure your portfolio is producing income and will continue to produce income so you get your Social Security check every month you set up your mutual fund to counter your index fund account for a monthly payment you can do that and just you want those payments to be stable and with respect to Social Security and the and the fund
Bogle, J. C. (2019). Interview with Motley Fool
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I gave you the formula for the investment return or fundamental return on stocks, which is dividend yield plus corporate earnings growth.
Bogle, J. C. (2019). Interview with WealthTrack - Timestamp 2303 seconds
(On gold) Unlike with dividend yields on stocks, you’re just betting that you can sell it for more than you can buy it. That is what we call speculation.
Bogle, J. C. (2015). Talk at the Aspen Institute - Timestamp 465 seconds
I think we should spend more time thinking about dividends rather than market values because market values are all over the place and dividends are pretty reliable to go up a little bit each year like
Bogleheads® Conference 2018 - John Bogle Q & A - Timestamp 1281 seconds
You should be worried not about the value of your estate but about the income producing capacity of your estate or your retirement plan because that’s where you go out you know once a month you go out to the mailbox and get your mutual fund dividends and your social security check and then you come home and have a nice dinner live in a nice house whatever else you want to do. So it’s we should focus I really believe this so strongly we should focus more on the inherent value of our investment program than on the market value because markets are crazy things
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I’m on this pretty much one-man, I think, crusade to have people, particularly retired people, look not at the value of their portfolio, but at the income stream they get. They’re going to go out to the mailbox and they’re going to open, let’s say, the middle of every month when the fund or group of funds pays their dividends. They’re going to get a certain dividend. Dividends are what matter to these people. The stream of income is what matters, and dividends [tend to increase] in history.
Interview with Morningstar (2013)
Look at the dividend and try to ignore the market. As I’ve often said - nothing like quoting oneself, Christine - the stock market is a giant distraction to the business of indexing, and in particular for the business of retirement investor. It’s the income flow from Social Security, pensions, whatever it might be, and dividend income, and that’s what’s important. It’s amazing how this dividend line [tends to increase over time] and the market [goes up and down over time], but they track each other in the long run.
John C. Bogle: “Simplicity is the master key to financial success.”
r/dividendgang • u/[deleted] • Dec 24 '23
Debunking The Myth of Dividend Cut During Recession
Since World War II ended there have been 11 recessions and bear markets. Just like we previously observed, the dividends paid by companies in the S&P 500 tended to be far less volatile than their share prices during these times of severe distress as well.
In fact, in three of these recessions dividends paid to investors actually increased, including a 46% jump during the first recession following World War II. In that case, a rapid decrease in government spending following the end of the war led to an economic contraction of 13.7% over three years.
However, the end of war-time rationing and a major recovery in consumer spending on regular goods (as opposed to war-time goods companies had been forced to produce) allowed earnings and dividends to rise substantially over this time.
The other major exception to note is the financial crisis of 2008-2009. This resulted in S&P 500 dividends being cut 23% (about one in three S&P 500 dividend-paying companies reduced their payouts).
However, that was largely due to banks being forced to accept a bailout from the Federal Government. Even relatively healthy banks like Wells Fargo (WFC) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM), which remained profitable during the crisis, were required to accept the bailout so that financial markets wouldn't see which banks were actually on the brink of collapse.
One of the conditions of the bailout was that nearly all strategically important financial institutions (too big to fail) were pressured to cut their dividends substantially, whether or not they were still supported by current earnings.
Even if we include both the World War II recession and the financial crisis outliers, we can see from the table above that average dividend cuts during recessions represented a pullback of just 0.5%.
If we take a smoothed out average, by excluding the outliers (events not likely to be repeated in the future), then the S&P 500's average dividend reduction during recessions was about 2%. That compares to an average peak stock market decline of 32%.
This highlights how the U.S. dividend corporate culture has been favorable to income investors, with management teams generally wishing to avoid a dividend cut unless it becomes absolutely necessary. With dividends tending to fall significantly less than share prices, recessions can be a great opportunity for investors to buy quality companies at much higher yields and lock in superior long-term returns.

Source: What Happens to Dividends During Recessions and Bear Markets?
r/dividendgang • u/RetiredByFourty • 9h ago
Meme day Time for coffee and watching the sunrise
r/dividendgang • u/ComeAtMeBro9 • 2h ago
General Discussion Now you need a 30-30-40 Portfolio
It gets better and better. Now, they’ve invented a new strategy where you have more cash/bonds than stocks;
30% Cash
30% Stocks
40% Bonds
You do not want dividends because of taxes on ordinary dividends. What you want is 70% exposed to interest/ordinary income.
“It’s very defensive” 😂 . You don’t say! 70% is cash and bonds 🤦♂️
r/dividendgang • u/Top_Dig_6469 • 1d ago
At 40 years old how would building out a dividend income portfolio fair vs dividend growth vs a hybrid approach?
I apologize in advance if I word this poorly. What are the potential downsides/advantages of investing in funds that are primarily dividend income funds with DRIP on 15-20 years ahead of retirement and buying that at today’s price versus investing in dividend growth funds and transitioning to dividend income funds either by selling or reinvesting the cash from them when at the actual time of retirement
I think a point of inquiry is what if somewhere in the middle let’s say 50-55 you want to use some invested income for bills etc wouldn’t it have been better to have bought/built out more of a dividend focused portfolio along the way?
Just to give a broad example let’s say you mimic’d something like Armchair Incomes profile long before retirement what may be the results?
My own personal profile is SCHD DGRO DIVO IDVO QDVO SPMO but I’m sort of paralyzed about what to do I feel like I’m at some sort of transition point and don’t know which way to focus things. Certainly if I didn’t have to work as much due to having more supplemental income in 10 years that would be great
r/dividendgang • u/Frequent-Sky3536 • 1d ago
General Discussion My 5-rule framework for building an equal-weighted dividend growth fortress.
When transitioning to a pure cash-flow strategy, having strict selection criteria prevents emotion and yield-chasing from ruining your portfolio. Over the years, I've stuck to a simple 5-rule filter before adding any position to my direct equity basket:
Proven Track Record: Minimum 10 consecutive years of dividend growth. (Filters out short-term payout spikes and temporary yield traps).
Payout Reliability: Strong free cash flow coverage to ensure the dividend is safe through market downturns.
Liquidity Floor: Minimum $2B market capitalization to ensure adequate institutional liquidity and stability.
Valuation Discipline: Only buying when historical metrics suggest the stock is fairly priced or undervalued.
Fixed Tranche Execution: Adding in disciplined $1,000 tranches to keep allocations equal-weighted across the basket, minimizing transaction friction.
Running screeners against this framework removes 95% of the noise and leaves only high-quality compounders.
For those who build direct-stock income baskets: what is the one non-negotiable rule or filter you never compromise on?
r/dividendgang • u/One-Astronomer8493 • 2d ago
General Discussion Dividend Investing Actually Helps My Mental Health, It's Crazy
Anyone else feel like this?
Work is stressful? Not forever, baby. Once dividends cover my living expenses and allow me to unplug, I'll stop giving a f* about work and just do it for the fun.
Used to be worried abt inflation. Every month you go w/o pay raise, you effectively lose money. And so you have constantly be thinking abt getting a new raise or changing jobs. And when you do get a pay bump, it's all downhill from there as inflation eats your earnings MoM.
Now - not worried so much. Bit by bit, div-investing allows you to outpace inflation.
Instead of effectively earning LESS every month, you earn MORE as the dividend checks keep increasing.
Instead of wasting my money on [insert unnecessary item category here], I save up, knowing that every additional buck I save brings me one step closer to financial independence. All spending is intentional and meaningful now. I don't have to spiral into hopelessness and doomspend.
Dividend income is one thing I can track that gets better each month. I'm progressing towards smth, OBJECTIVELY. And no one can take that away from me. They can fire me, lock me up, or cut my freaking legs off, but that dividend check? IT'S GONNA KEEP COMING, BABY.
How is y'all's mental health and outlook on life influenced by div-investing? Is this a common theme, or am I just talking out of my silly behind?
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 2d ago
Imagine these clowns and the Boogertards are the ones thinking they are "teaching" you how to invest 🤡
Stonks stop going up and comedy started
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r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 2d ago
Funny how they didn't ask this question a few months ago instead of busying concern trolling dividend subs lecturing us about "math" 🤡
I thought the "math" checked out 🤡🤡 ???
r/dividendgang • u/kitapjen • 2d ago
General Discussion The argument against dividends is sooo wrong!
The one thing we hear from the cult of growth is “dividends reduce stock value when they are paid out”.
Yes, a dividend reduces cash and retained equity.
But stock value has very little to do with that.
My example today: RGLD paid a 48 cent per share dividend today. At the moment as I type this it’s up by over $6/share today.
r/dividendgang • u/justcurious3287 • 3d ago
General Discussion How many shares of SCHD do you own? How has owning it improved your financial life?
Just wondering. I own 581 shares of SCHD. I’m 39.
r/dividendgang • u/Frequent-Sky3536 • 2d ago
General Discussion Capital consumption vs. Cash-Flow architecture: Why selling principal in retirement is a structural flaw.
There is a fundamental psychological and operational flaw in modern mainstream retirement planning (the traditional "4% rule"): it forces investors to turn into continuous capital sellers, consuming their underlying machine to fund basic living expenses.
When you rely on liquidating 3% to 4% of a market-cap weighted portfolio every year, you become entirely dependent on market sentiment and valuation multiples remaining high at the exact moment you need liquidity. Selling shares during down years permanently destroys your future compounding power.
By contrast, a Fortress Architecture focuses purely on generating raw organic cash flow from direct equity ownership. When your dividend yield covers your expenses with a margin of safety, portfolio volatility becomes background noise. You never have to surrender a single share back to the market.
For those here who have fully transitioned to a pure cash-flow strategy: did you start out with the traditional lump-sum / capital consumption mindset before realizing its flaws, or did you target dividend income from day one?
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 3d ago
It is pretty amusing to me that the entire Boogertard cult "strategy" now pretty much rests on NVDA next earning calls
Diversification my ass 🤡
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 2d ago
General Discussion BEWARE: A Boogertard brigading this sub was caught red-handed shilling for BND and other garbage despite not owning any (or might have sold)
This is the kind of loser so emotionally invested in how you are investing your money on mainstream investing subs, they have no skin in the game but they will tell you to invest in garbage.
🤡
r/dividendgang • u/RetiredByFourty • 3d ago
Dividend Kings I really should calculate what my YOC is for KO 🤑
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 3d ago
Looks like AI stocks are crashing all around the world, circuit breakers triggered on Korean stock exchanges
Go growth, ouch !!! 4% retards now go into timing-the-market mode.
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r/dividendgang • u/ComeAtMeBro9 • 3d ago
BHs-look for ones where majority of return is paid out in dividends ☠️
I found this one particularly amusing.
Someone asked which bonds or bond funds to buy.
The response:
Look at total returns..pick the one where the majority is coming from dividends/interest
🤣
Look for “dividends” and chase returns, interesting
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 3d ago
When market is up, every idiots and their dogs think they are Warren Buffett, when market goes down, let's see who is swimming naked
🤡, gonna be more pain to come.
We dividend investors grab popcorn and still get paid while others too busy deleting accounts and apply jobs at McDonald's.
Last correction, around 40% of the Boogertards brigading this sub deleted their accounts, rest hid all the comments and posts and set to privacy mode. Let's see your prediction how many will be this time.
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 3d ago
OMG, market is going to crash, how can Boogertard like myself surviving the incoming recession ? I thought the "xxx and chill" are bullet-proof
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Too much comedy guys, make sure you screenshot everything !
r/dividendgang • u/Boogertard • 3d ago
Any "growth" investors like myself hoarding cash to time the market ? 🤡🤡
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r/dividendgang • u/KMPItXHnKKItZ • 5d ago
Dividend Growth I just wanted to say that this is THE only tolerable investing sub on this whole website
Literally every other subreddit that is about stocks or investing or trading on this website is completely intolerable and unfriendly and gives bad advice. This is the only investing related section that I even still enjoy going on on Reddit that is friendly and welcoming and has good information. Just wanted to say thanks for that, thanks for keeping this community good!