I hate Trans Ralsei Theory

[u/ProbodobodyneInc]

Even if we ignore the numerous times he has been referred to as he/him, a boy, a guy, a dude, a prince, we must also realize that just because he isn't traditionally masculine, he isn't transmasc (or transfem)

There is no Easter Bunny, there is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Princess from the Dark.

'Oh but Deltarune is all about breaking free from fate' I can hear exactly two of you say in your heads (I can read your mind,) I know one thing, and it's that I can't break free from the fate of going through Undertale 2 and finding that both routes lead to the same goddamn ending of Gaster Friend Inside Me Penumbra Phantasm Big Shot World Revolving Jarona Shadow Crystal Always Bet On Papyrus Knight.

ZHOTAN!

(Also, I'm not transphobic, before you try to spew that label onto me)

[u/Lucie_Is_Sleeping]

As a trans person. I don’t care.

I am fine with Ralsei being either.

But I feel like this discussion taken to an extreme is bad.

[u/Latter-Syllabub-5560 → u/Lucie_Is_Sleeping]

Shoutout to the guys who called everyone that disagrees with the theory racist, transphobic assholes

[u/sudoregalia → u/Latter-Syllabub-5560]

i've had people say that denying ralsei is trans (evidence: one cutesy line) is on the same level as denying jax from tadc is trans (too much evidence to list out + creator confirmation for those who didn't get it)

and that anyone who does either is transphobic and on the same level of transphobic + media illiterate

not on reddit btw this was an actual person

[u/Apart-Performer-331 → u/sudoregalia]

aw man guess I’m transphobic now cause I don’t see where the headcanon came from

[u/sudoregalia → u/Apart-Performer-331]

born to be trans, forced to agree when anyone calls any character trans or else you're a "threat to the community" and "have internalised transphobia"

[u/Apart-Performer-331 → u/sudoregalia]

yea like I get when it’s a canon trans character but like you’re not helping trans people by doing that with a headcanon

[u/sudoregalia → u/Apart-Performer-331]

it's also to the detriment of gnc people and nonbinary people, because the assumption always seems to be transfem

like come on, i'm transfem myself but transfem defaultism combined with extreme egg culture create a very toxic environment

[u/_TurtleX → u/sudoregalia]

There is way more evidence than just one line, most of the idea stems from chapters 3 and 4, and didn't suddenly become such a big thing because Ralsei got called a princess by Flowery and dressed up like a princess in castle town.

[u/Sad_Structure4802 → u/sudoregalia]

No but it IS the same rodeo in which the hints had to become very blatant and even then the creator still had to come out saying “yes, this character is trans.” For people to get it, with people then claiming it’s bad writing because they didn’t get the bow scene and bc they had to say it in an undeniable way

Like when some people ‘debate’ against it, they’re very close minded about it proving they don’t really understand WHY people think is, and even worse, assume it’s a very surface level then and then claim misogyny because somehow trans people don’t understand gender roles (and I’m not saying there aren’t people who are that surface level with it, but A. That’s still valid, but then again I’m assuming you’re talking about the ones who are insistent it’s real and you’re transphobic otherwise but geniunely I have never seen that and seen more of B. It’s so incredibly frustrating when people completely write it off without understanding it and then claim some sort of bigotry from the other side when they are the ones being bigoted bc by not trying to even understand it they prove they think trans people are less)

You say ‘one cutesy line’ as the ‘only evidence’ which I’m assuming is the scene where Flowery calls Ralsei princess but by saying that you prove you don’t understand it, because A. That’s NOT the only evidence, it’s just the new one to add to a long list. And B. Ignores the context of the scene, just like the bow scene. It wasn’t just that Ribbit put a bow on Jax’s head, it’s that they were being the most vulnerable they have been with anyone, and in Ralsei’s case, that scene with Flowery is the ONLY one where he’s NOT teasing, mocking, or trying to anger Ralsei but is instead being completely sincere encouraging them to acknowledge what it is they want without any regards to what Kris or yourself wants. It wasn’t a “you’re cute and girly so you’re a princess” it was a “you need to acknowledge and confront what it is you want without any regards to other, like the fact you want to be a princess.” (Which speaking of, it’s very telling Ralsei LOVED being a princess, but to compensate for the fact they liked it, they were insistent it’s ok to like it if YOU liked it, because they’re still dependent on you validating it. That’s less about the trans debate and more Ralsei doesn’t dare break away from how you perceive them.)