Question
Can two kids with no experience play Kill Team with these?
Two of my kids want Warhammer stuff for Christmas, and I understand that Kill Team is supposed to be smaller and easier to pick up than the full game, so we're looking at starting there. Our FLGS pointed my spouse at these, but only one of them seems clearly indicated as Kill Team stuff.
Apparently, Necrons and Chaos Space Marines are the important factions we need. And the kid who wants the Space Marines wants demon Space Marines or something.
We play D&D, so we already have a bajillion dice of every kind and gridded play mats/maps.
EDIT: My spouse is the way to return the Accursed Cultists and go to the Warhammer store to pick up a Starter Kit and talk to them to get a recommendation for "demon space marines" that are suitable for Kill Team. Then, they'll have means to set up and play quickly, and means to do all the model building to play with specific factions they say they want.
Grab the Accursed Cultist box and tell the store clerk you want a refund and to not recommend you stuff without knowing shit.
He fucked you up.
Accursed Cultist is a box that can be used for the team Chaos Cultist. The problem? Chaos Cultist requires 2 more boxes to even play, which are the Chaos Cultist and the Dark Commune. You are looking to spend even more if you go that route. And if your kid said he wanted the "daemon marines" he is not going to like to play as the minions instead.
When you ask for the refund ask the store if they have instead the "Nemesis Claw" box, or the "Legionaires" box and if you can just change it for it. That is the true real Chaos Marines teams that you have, or as your kid said "Daemon Marines" that he might actually want, and is a single box team in comparison to the latter being a 3 box team.
I think the Kill Team branded Legionaries is out of print.
The older Legionaries box doesn't have ALL the extra Kill Team bits and Bobs, but it does have enough it to be playable, just in case it turns out that that's all they have.
Yeah you are right. The store might sell him the wrong stuff again.
OP, if you plan on buying the Legionaires box for Kill Team but they only have the 40k box, make sure you are buying the true new rebox box that comes with the KT upgrade sprue.
You can tell what box it is by where the letters are on the box.
If the letters are on the left side of the box, that's the new box that has everything. Do not buy the one with the title letters on the center, that's the old box that lacks the KT upgrade sprue.
Another alternative that has less room for error is buying the killteam starter set that comes with chaos plague marines and loyalists space marines, plus all the other killteam stuff like dice, tokens, rule book some cardboard terrain. starter set granted plague marines =\= equal legionaries they are another wing of chaos with a slightly different aesthetic.
As an add on to this add on the Nemisis claw kill team box also comes with bits to make either legionnaires or the Nemisis claw specific models.
They are also very chaos demon marine looking. And as a forewarning for these kits there is assembly and painting required incase you aren’t or weren’t made aware. (But that’s the fun part)
In case it doesn't, if you have an apple device you can use the ktcards app and it gives you everything you would ever want to know about the rules and every kill team!
Iirc the new one does not have the Shrivetalon, Balefire tomb or possessed guy (forget his name) but does have the heavy chain axe and the reaper auto cannon
My spouse called another, slightly less local game store "that has Warhammer in its damn name" and talked to someone there instead of a FLGS rando. They said if we brought the kids in they'd teach them how to play, give them some free stuff, and help them adapt the rules a little to play casually with the two boxes we've got.
So, if we don't decide to pick up the starter set or swap something out, we've got a solution there.
I’ve never not been able to get the mini of the month at any random point in the month, but admittedly I’ve only been going since May of this year and this is the first time it’s been a coveted Space Marine chapter. Guess I’ll find out if my luck holds this Saturday.
I’m in the US in Delaware. For all that I think our local store does pretty well sales wise for the region, I don’t think 150 distinct people walk in on any given month!
The Dublin store, despite being average size and in the same spot for 30 years, is now technically the EU headquarters. But also the 6th was the first Saturday after the last payday before Christmas, and is traditionally the most insane shopping day of the year in Ireland.
The one time I've ever gotten a model was when I came in on a Saturday with the kid and they didn't have the models yet. Guy running the store said if we came the next week he'd save us 2 of the Dark Angel terminators
Games Workshop may be a greedy corporation that charges way too much for its plastic, but their stores are top notch for learning the game (at least in my experience; since they are usually one main employee per store I’m sure the experience may vary.) The reason I have a giant stack of gray plastic today is because I went into the local Warhammer store in May with my 7 year old son and the person running the store taught him how to paint a space marine, walking him through all the steps using the stores materials. Once you get started you can save money shopping online, finding cheaper brands of paint and especially tools, and similar points you’ll learn about. But getting your initial stuff from the Warhammer store and having them walk you through the ropes is a great way to get started.
Yep the.proper Warhammer store will get you set up the starter set is also a great start. My partner and I have been somewhat casually playing KT as just another board game
Yeah thats the official company store. They will be your best bet as a new player to introduce you to the game. Buy models from the other stores tho. Its 10-15% cheaper at local stores than the official ones.
When you say "Chaos Cultist requires 2 more boxes to even play", do you mean like there's a rule requiring these other operatives, or, like just to be a viable team in-game?
The former. You need the three boxes to field the team at all.
The team has a fixed operative selection where you need the Cultist box for your 9 Devotee and the Dark Commune for the rest of the team (Iconarch, Mindwitch, Blades, Demagogue).
Then as a faction rule in the middle of the battle your Devotees transform into Mutants from the Accursed Cultist box, where you replace the Devotee mini for the Mutant.
You could theoretically play the game with no Accursed Cultist box for mutants. Never transforming the Devotees (only healing them). The thing is 70% of the abilities and rules of the team related to the Mutants and transforming them by giving them unique abilities and buffs. I wouldn't even say that this makes it the latter either (the whole requiring vs just viable), because you effectively are cutting off the whole gameplay and point of the team.
Playing Chaos Cult with only Devotees and Dark Commune is like playing Krieg with only Troopers. A miserable and a "why are you doing this?" moment.
If OP only has the Accursed Cultist box, he can't even begin the game with those.
You can build a legal team with the Canoptek Circle box but the Chaos Cult team is a funky one which is made up of three different 40k boxes and you need all of them.
I’d suggest Nemesis Claw instead.
You’ll also need a Killzone (terrain) and the Core Book (which has the rules and tokens). You can download the rules specific to the teams from WarCom or find them in the official mobile app.
My spouse got in touch with a game store that focuses on Warhammer, and they offered to help out with some free swag and teaching them the basics, including helping them adapt rules to those two specific sets (I don't know nearly enough to know what that would mean for the Chaos Cult).
So, we might swap things out or might not. But if Chaos Cult kid wants to swap things out, I'll suggest Nemesis Claw.
And, we'll see about picking up terrain and a rules book. Thanks!
If you do go to swap them out, IMHO, the Nemesis Klaw is a cooler looking set of evil/demonic in appearance set of models.
You’re a good father taking the time to get your kids set up correctly. I’d enjoy hearing what they thought of the ones you picked out after they get them.
Chaos Legionaries would also be great instead of Nemesis Claw. Its essentially the same set but nemesis claw has more Vampire/Bat theme and Legionaries has general 40k chaos vibe.
I would highly recommend trying to find the killteam starter set that comes with angels of death(blue space marines) and plague marines(green space marines) the kit comes with two teams enough terrain to start you out and a booklet that teaches you the basics and leads you into a full game!
Yeah, when I saw there was a Starter Set, that seems like a good way to go. We'll see if my spouse agrees. A game store that specializes in Warhammer said they'd give the kids some free stuff and teach them how to play with those specific boxes if we wanted, so we've got some options now, I guess.
When they inevitably want me to play with them, maybe I'll get the Starter Set for myself if we don't already get it. :)
If you can find the starter set NOT from a Warhammer store or games workshop online, you'll generally pay about 15-20% less. This goes for almost everything warhammer. FLGS rule for this. Sorry there was a dipshit at the one you went to.
A bonus of the starter set is that both teams come in different colored plastic and are easy-to-build, monopose models, so you don't even need glue to make them: Its box-to-gameplay timeline is probably under 20 minutes.
Now, painting them is still great, but most kids would not enjoy the time it might take to do a good effort of a plague marine kill team paintjob before they get to play at all. They are really detailed miniatures, with nurglings and everything.
If possible, I would still try to exchange the accursed cultists box you have. It would be difficult to create a kill team around just the one box. That team requires 3. Even if someone put together some rules for them to use for that team, it could get very confusing. Having a team that is supported with the current edition will make learning the game much more smooth.
This is how I started about a year ago. Since then I have been slowly building up other teams since. I also wanted the chaos cultist team, but as others have said the units for it are hard to find and like 4x the price of other teams.
If you are set on that team a better path is to get the deck of cards for cultist rules and use assorted miniatures from your DnD collection.
I was going to leave my own comment but there's no point when it's already been said. The starter set is what you want. Comes with a board, rules, 2 full kill teams that are cool and easy to play, terrain, and even the dice and measuring sticks you need.
Im pretty sure this KT set can be found on Barnes & Noble for $50 right now. Im not sure if its a thing where its sold through them or an independent seller.
This. I absolutely get wanting to play necrons, but that's a hard team to pilot and not a very fun one to play against. Also, you 100% need terrain 100% of the time. The game just doesn't work without itz and the starter set includes it and the rules and tokens you need to play.
The starter set comes with Death Guard, which are a type of chaos space Marines, so one kid is happy, and standard space Marines, which are maybe less exciting than necrons but are a much, much better team. There's a reason these two are in the beginner box.
GW has a history of making kind of bad beginner boxes, where just because you have the beginner box doesn't mean you have everything you need to play. That's not the case for the kill team starter set though! It's truly a one box solution. It is all you need to play, completely included in the box. And it's only slightly more expensive than one single kill team box.
Unfortunately you were led astray by the GW employee and you should return at least the accursed cultists box. I think the necrons one is fine to expand out into later, so you don't necessarily need to return that one if your kid specifically requested them.
Cool. The story of which kid wants what apparently gets complicated. Chaos Cult kid started at wanting "bugs" but then read the lore and got interested in the demon Space Marines instead. So, I don't think either kid is specifically attached to either of those actual boxes, maybe just the factions.
Maybe we just take them to an actual Warhammer store a few cities over with a price limit that is conveniently half the price of the Starter Set and let them choose.
(The store that sold us these boxes wasn't a GW store; it was just a semi-local games store, so the employee probably wasn't as well-versed in Warhammer as they thought they were.)
Starter set contains the rules and tokens (both which can be obtained by unofficial ways too) and rules on their own are half the price of the starter set. And starter set has some MDF walls (terrain) that they can hide behind - some form of terrain is required. Killzone volkus box is the staple, but fairly expensive.
We have a ton (almost literally) of Lego, yes. Someone else mentioned that once they get a hang for how terrain affects the game, they could do their own setups. Lego terrain will definitely be something I suggest.
Any box labeled Kill Team like the Necron box here is a team in a box. Any box not labeled Kill Team will require consulting the Kill Team rules releases to determine eligibility.
Like other have mentioned, I highly recommend getting the Kill Team Starter Box. It will have two full push-fit teams unavailable elsewhere, as well as basic terrain, core rules, dice, etc. Everything you need to get started at the best price.
If you want to go further, you'll want to pick up paint and tools, plus plastic glue for the hobby side of assembly and painting.
The Necrons team is the correct box for a Necron Kill Team, but for the "demon Space Marines" the Cultists is likely not what they want. You should try to get further info on what that kid wants, as they most likely want some flavor of Chaos Space Marines, however there are currently 6 or 7 teams this could refer to. The term Chaos Space Marines encompasses not only the general Chaos Astartes, but also Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Night Lords, and others. They have a number of teams between them, some of which may not have specific Kill Team boxes currently, so you'll want to be more specific.
Any box labeled Kill Team like the Necron box here is a team in a box. Any box not labeled Kill Team will require consulting the Kill Team rules releases to determine eligibility.
That's where I got suspicious. Since one box has no Kill Team branding at all, I wanted to check. FLGS says it's fine. Reddit says it isn't.
Fortunately an actual Warhammer store a few cities over says they'll give the kids some swag and teach them how to play and adapt the rules for casual play with whatever two boxes they bring in.
If they’re trying to play kill team and are totally new to the hobby that chaos box will result in nothing but frustration. I would make sure to get some clarity and get a chaos space marine team in a branded kill team box. That way you’ll have everything you need to play. After you buy the terrain.
Looks like the legionaries box is no longer on amazon. But i still see it in a few spots when i do a google shopping search. I would get that as it’s most likely what they want to play “demon” space marines (chaos space marines).
I’d recommend you move fast and get that box.
Also the chaos box you got doesn’t even have any space marines in it
Yeah, if this is what you got recommended when asking someone at your FLGS for Kill Team models, then it's pretty clear that you shouldn't be asking that person for help with Warhammer anymore. They either don't know enough or don't care enough to be of proper help.
Definitely get the kids to the proper Warhammer store. They should get a free starter mini, free building and painting tutorials, free tutorial games of various systems, and potentially a free mini of the month (while supplies last). While not always the case, the store employee should be happy to walk you through everything and help pick out the best options to get started.
I would absolutely start with the Kill Team Starter Set. It's good bang for your buck, comes with two included teams that are pretty fun and evenly matched (one of the teams is a Chaos team, the Death Guard) and even comes with dice and some MDF terrain. It also walks you through the rules step by step, IMO it's the best way to enter the hobby.
I say this as a person who JUST started playing Kill Team a few months ago with the Starter Set as my entry point. It was easy to throw together, fun to learn with a friend and now I have a greater understanding of the core rules after picking them up as well. The one downside is that the Starter Set rules aren't the complete rules but to be honest even playing with the abridged rules was still a blast with me and my friend.
I understand Necrons might be a MUST for your kids but maybe try and pick those up (and a different chaos team) once they've gotten to grips with the Starter Set.
It started with Necrons and "Bugs," then went to Necrons and "demon Space Marines." But might just turn into "here's an allowance, let's go to the Warhammer store and just get what you want." :)
And the starter set was so easy to build, they just snap together. SO EASY! I've built w40k for decades and just building was a huge hurdle back in the day playing Skirmish (the Old version of KT ).
Chaos Cult is a bastard to get started with. Bc it is 3 different mandatory boxes. You need Cultists, Accursed Cultists, and Dark Commune.
It isn’t a thing of “to have the full selection of units”, but Chaos Cult has to have all 3 boxes to get all the units. The Dark Commune and Cultists are the base units. The rules for Chaos Cult has the Cultists turn into Accursed Cultists in game as you go. Which the larger one has a different base. Chaos Cult may be the most unfriendly team to start bc it isn’t a 1 box team. Not even a 2 box team to get all the Models. It is a mandatory 3 box team.
Edit: To speak on what someone else said as well… get the Starter Box off Amazon. Has 2 full teams with terrain. One of the teams are Death Guard which has mutated Marines.
Too bad none of that 3-box stuff was on this box. We'll either swap it out or take a semi-local Warhammer store up on an offer to teach the kids how to play and adapt rules for whatever we bring in.
Kill team has a steep learning curve, esp if you've never played WH before. Anyone saying you only need the teams and can get the rules online is overlooking how insanely daunting it all is. Complexity leads to frustration which leads to giving up on it altogether. You really should get a box set that includes all the rules and pieces in one place.
That's going to mean the starter set or hivestorm.
Some folks are going to disagree with me here but if recommend the starter set over hivestorm for people who are total newbies. Yeah the starter set doesn't have the equipment pieces or the ops cards or decent terrain but it's simplified in such a way that makes it a perfect entry point for someone with no background. Simply being not daunting is valuable in itself. Get hivestorm or tomb world afterward if you want (and can still find them).
A semi-local Warhammer store said they'd teach the kids to play including how to adapt the rules for casual play with whatever they bring in. But Starter Sets do exist for a reason...
Just FYI Kill Team is smaller and CHEAPER to get into than regular Warhammer but the rules are more complicated IMO. I have some regular 40k players give up on KT because all the rules and that's paying uncomplicated teams
If you're going for chaos space marines I'd recommend the two player starter with Death Guard vs Space Marines. It comes with everything to get started (2 teams, basic terrain and the rules to start playing )
The necron team and Cultists are great but I think they are on the higher complexity in terms of team mechanics and strategy.
Additionally if you're looking for Necrons, Tombworld expansion box set is a great value it has this Necron team plus Deathwatch. If you can't find it, my LGS has a couple left in stock and I can point you to their website.
The kid who wants Necrons loves rules, so the added complexity might not be a problem. But that's good to know that some factions are more complicated to play.
Accursed Cultists are not a Kill Team on their own. You will need two other kits to run them as a Kill Team, which are Chaos Cultists and Dark Commune. This will be expensive and is also probably not what your son meant when he said he wants Chaos Marines (Demon marines).
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If you want Chaos Space Marines, I recommend getting the Nemesis Claw box.
A Legionaries box will also work, but there are some things you should know. First, the team is out of rotation. This means it will not be usable in official tournaments or some smaller tournaments or leagues (depending on who's running it). It will still be fine for casual play and it still has rules.
Second, you should make sure the box is either labled "Kill Team" or is the most recent production run of the non-KillTeam Legionaries box. Only these versions will have all the options that you can use in Kill Team. The other Legionaries boxes can still be used in Kill Team, but will be missing some options.
If it's in you budget I'd get the starter set + Necron box. The starter set includes Plague Marines (one of the different subfactions of Chaos Space Marines, perhaps you could ask if who asked for them is okay with Nurgle), the rulebook, terrain and some other useful stuff. They can share the regular Space Marines to switch their team when they get bored or invite a friend to play.
You're the first person to suggest Starter Set + Necrons. I like the way you think. :)
Good call about more factions once they get the hang of it. I know there'll be fights about who owns what when one of them wants to have a friend over and teach them to play.
It came to me just because if you buy separate boxes + manual + terrain it will cost about the same than starter + 1 box.
You can use boxes as terrain, we all did, but if you haven't played before you can miss what features a terrain piece must have to add playability. Eventually they will start to build their own terrain, but with the starter kit they can play as soon as their minis are mounted.
Chaos Space Marine and Necrons are both pretty important factions, but I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say they're thr primary factions. That would be the regular Space Marines. Your kids probably just like those factions, which is fair. The sheer drip and lore of all the different factions is like half the appeal of Warhammer.
But unless they are really insistent on those factions specifically, I would just get them the killteam starter set, though. It has everything one needs to play a decent game of Killteam. Two different teams, cardboard terrain, dice, all relevant markers, and a little slimmed down version of the rules (how else would Games Workshop force you to buy even more cheap paper that you’ll want to replace in a few years anyway). One of those teams are Chaos Space Marine, though are a little stinked up. Not that they mind, they are Plague Marines, after all.
You can also find the rulebook online as pdf or abbreviated (such as on Wahapedia) fairly easily without needing to buy it. And rules for specific teams can be found for free on the official Killteams app.
When I said they were the important factions, I meant they were the factions the kids wanted, but apparently that's even a bit complicated. Reading some lore is how one kid went from "bugs" to "demon space marines."
The Starter Set sounds like it's a good option, and a Warhammer store sort of nearby said they'd teach the kids to play and how to adapt the rules if we stick with these two boxes.
If the demon space marine kid likes bugs and gross stuff, definitely look at the Plague Marines in the starter box, which are the Death Guard faction of Nurgle. If they like the way the marines look and want to expand, some of the Death Guard units are very bug-like. Plus, the Daemon Primarch of Nurgle, Mortarion, has bug features and looks rad.
For chaos space marines can get the legionaries WH40k box and use it as a legionaries kill team. Chaos cult kill team requires two more boxes! For terrain you really want the Volkus killzone but maybe the starter set would be better as people have said (includes a chaos space marine team of the nurgle variety, plague marines)
The Chaos Cult kill team is a combination of the Dark Commune, Accursed Cultists, and Chaos Cultists boxes. The accursed cultists is technically the least important box for that kill team since you're using the Mutation rule to turn Chaos Cultists into the Accursed Clutists.
There was the *Legionaries Kill Team* from the previous edition of the game that had a Space Marine that did become passed by a demon but that might be hard to get a hold of, you can buy Chaos Space Marines Legionaries and you can buy the Nemesis Claw Kill team( Which is a Legionaries box plus the Nightlord spure) but neither come with the upgrade spure that makes the demon space marine.
My best suggestion is to get the *Kill Team: Starter Set*, it has Plague Marines (not technically demons but very demon adjacent, they got tentacles, horns, and little Nurgle demon friends) and everything you need to play (A basic rule book and terrain). Depending on where you shop it can be cheaper than buying the Dark Commune and Chaos Cultists or the old Legionaries Kill Team.
There is also the Killteam App you can download all the individual rules for the Killteams
Kill team is smaller than proper 40k but it's actually more complicated, but i think you can pick it up just fine.
Kill team has a free app with MOST of the rules you need to play, and the only dice you need are about 6d6 per player, but other size dice for health trackers are certainly helpful.
The most important rule missing from the app is the definition of obscured.
Other than that it's HELPFUL to get some tac op cards and tokens. Even then the tac ops aren't that important to a casual home game. As far as tokens go... Just screenshot the tokens under each teams "faction rules" and print them onto paper and cut them out.
As others have said, the starter set is the best way to go. The only thing is, the terrain in it is pretty basic and limiting. If they enjoy playing, my next recommendation would be a proper killzone like Volkus or the new Tomb World.
Get the HiveStorm box set. Everything you need for the games included in there. Then try and add an army here or there. Kill team is lots of fun and I prefer it to warhammer as the game is much more fun imo
You got screwed on the cultists, but Canoptek is just fine once you build it! The game is starting to turn more toward one box teams, but some holdouts remain (Cultists and Thousand Sons chief among them). Ask the store for a refund on the cultists and buy a box with the label “Nemesis Claw”
I'd recommend returning these back to the store and picking up a Starter Box. It comes with 2 full teams (Space Marines & Plague Marines), Map board, MDF terrains, Lite Rules for beginners and useful tokens.
Return the cultist box and pick up a legionaries or nemesis claw kill team. I'd also recommend picking up either a kill team core rulebook or the starter set if its available. The book is always nice to have on hand for quick rules lookup and the starter set comes with a space marine and plague marine kill team, as well as a playmat, terrain and a starters guide to learning the game
Grab Nem Claw or the newer legionaires box. Return the cultists. Grab a rule book. Buy or download the approved ops cards for 2025. Have a measuring device handy. That gets them set to play if they put a board together with makeshift terrain. There’s some additional big spender routes you could take but this is a good quick way to get them in and see if they like it with some cool Christmas presents.
Just get them started set. You have all you need to learn basics including lite rules and everything explained. Minis are pre painted to green and blue and push fit so they can easily assemble them and play without the need of glue and later they can clean all and glue. Later they can or you can buy core rules and teams if they really want to play it still.
The rulebooks also come with (most of) the little bits and bobs that makes, or at least helps, the game function. Little cardboard cutouts that are generic use for all teams. You can proooooobably get by without them, or get some printed from an Etsy shop, but I'd rather not play without them. There's just too many things to keep track of without something to assist.
There's also the "approved ops" deck for the mission objectives, but you can probably find some print-offs somewhere.
And maybe terrain, or is that just for fancy games?
Some manner of terrain and a standard sized board to play on is needed. Line of sight, cover, and shooting is a big part of the game, so being able to hide and break line of sight matters. There are "official" terrain setups out there, especially if you want to use the Approved Ops killzone setups, but you can get away with some rubble, small buildings, trees, something to get a bit of elevation, etc. Mix it up, make the area interesting and interactive. Otherwise you're just shooting at each other across an empty board until there's no one left.
Definitely go to a store and get some lessons on the game. While Kill Team is smaller in number of models, the complexity is through the roof.
While Kill Team is smaller in number of models, the complexity is through the roof.
I've seen a couple of y'all say this now... That's good to know to account for. One kid loves rules; the other considers all rules to be guidelines at best.
The first box is a top tier kill team, the second is not a kill team. Its not useless though, there is a chaos cultist kill team, and they can mutate, and you might be able to use the accursed box for the mutated versions. You would need the non mutated kill team though.
No one seems to have mentioned the obvious—these are model kits that have to be cut from sprues, assembled, and ideally painted. So you’d also need nippers, hobby knife, super glue or plastic cement, and a variety of hobby paints.
I assume you know that, but it’s worth confirming. And worth confirming the kids are responsible and patient enough to be ok with blades and glue.
If they’re not married to the idea of Kill Team, but just like the aesthetic of those models, there are easier skirmish rule sets to learn that are miniature-agnostic that can teach them the same wargaming concepts and have a lot of fun. I recommend Space Weirdos ($5, 16-page pdf). If they like that, they can invest more in KillTeam.
Good of you to mention. Yeah, we (and they) know that everything's gotta be built first. We've got stuff for model building and painting, and they're old enough to handle it (in theory). But apparently the Starter Set might save a bit of that trouble which might be a plus.
It is Warhammer stuff that they want, specifically. I think partially because they like the aesthetic and because they've got an uncle who plays, so it must be cool.
Shame on that employee. Get the Starter set. My son and I have played several games with just the rules in it (we added Obscured in the most recent one, see wahapedia) and we've loved every one we've played.
I don’t know about accused cultists but I know about the canopied circle as a certified stupid have quite a bit of rules to keep track of and I’d recommend (once again the unknowledgeable) some simpler teams that have less operative synergy and more single operative buffs such as with angels of death where most of the rules for each is just there on the card without having to keep track of modifiers.
You can get kill team starter box for £67.50 if your In uk and cheaper at other stores it gives a board to play on and enough to play a small game and rules you can still keep the boxes you have and have that box and they have a variety of stuff
I’m so sorry to say it like this, but with those teams your kids are going to be cooked, necrons are hard to play and for cultists you will need at least 2 extra boxes…
I recommend you to return them if it’s possible and go directly either for the kill team starter box or to pick up 2 marines teams (imperium vs chaos) because those teams are usually easy to learn, small 6 operative teams and cool miniatures
The starter set might be better for some kids as the pieces are different color and push fit, comes with rudimentary rules, and has simple terrain and board.
Might I suggest one of the Kill Team starter sets? The current one includes Space Marines and Death Guard (a kind of Chaos Space Marine) with all the rules, markers, dice, and terrain needed to get you started. Plus the kits are super easy to build!
Kill team is quite hard and complicated to learn not to mention to get good at. Do not get fooled by the smaller amount of minis compared to big 40k.
You have generic (not that simple) rules, each team operative unique skills that flip the rules, various ways to build teams and also map unique rules.
For the Warhammer'ish games Combat Patrol and SpearHead formula is the easiest
war hammer is not something they’re just going to pick up. they’re also not assembled out the box, so they’ll have to do quite a bit of assembling. start with a different skirmish game if you can
You should hop in and play with them. I am 31 years old. I still meet up to play with my father at least two or three times a month. My brothers play too. It's great for taking that family frustration and really testing its limits.
Ease of Army Acquisition was an important factor. :) I'm not against throwing a bunch of money at hobbies, but not until I believe they really want to go in on it.
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u/BipolarMadness Dec 09 '25
Grab the Accursed Cultist box and tell the store clerk you want a refund and to not recommend you stuff without knowing shit.
He fucked you up.
Accursed Cultist is a box that can be used for the team Chaos Cultist. The problem? Chaos Cultist requires 2 more boxes to even play, which are the Chaos Cultist and the Dark Commune. You are looking to spend even more if you go that route. And if your kid said he wanted the "daemon marines" he is not going to like to play as the minions instead.
When you ask for the refund ask the store if they have instead the "Nemesis Claw" box, or the "Legionaires" box and if you can just change it for it. That is the true real Chaos Marines teams that you have, or as your kid said "Daemon Marines" that he might actually want, and is a single box team in comparison to the latter being a 3 box team.