r/marvelstudios • u/BOMBAD_Echo_1409 Captain America • 8h ago

Discussion (More in Comments) this perfectly incapsulates why the x-men fandom can be soo tiring.

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and no this isn’t goomba fallacy there definitely chill and based x-men fans.

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u/DavoSeaworth96 7h ago

Honestly, you joke but someone criticising the bloody x men for being woke is bound to happen and will inevitably not fail to annoy me ahah

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u/vmeloni1232 7h ago

Oh, it's already happened on reddit. I don't remember what sub it was but someone was talking about gender and race swapping in the X-Men and I had to argue that it would be the dumbest thing for X-Men to do that. There's so many prominent women, people of color and LGBT characters that any swapping is pointless.

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u/DavoSeaworth96 7h ago

Truly feel like truly any xmen character can be race swapped and it won't take away from them or change their story, but expect marvel to do the 'safe' thing and cast a black actor to play beast or nightcrawler so they are blue anyway but they get points for trying

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u/vmeloni1232 7h ago

And I certainly wouldn't cry about it, I'd rather just see Marvel put the minority characters high instead of swapping

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u/DavoSeaworth96 7h ago

Yeah, it's such a diverse cast that it's unneeded agreed. I do wonder how the MCU will handle a lot of the cast. People like Xavier, Magneto and Storm almost feel impossible to introduce so late. They are so powerful I'm wondering how they'll explain what they've been doing.

Omegas like Bobby are young enough to explain, at least. I guess Storm could be too but I would much prefer an experienced Storm, Cyclops etc

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u/vmeloni1232 7h ago

I always figure that come from the multiverse, but having Jean Gray is Spider-Man ended that thought.

If Secret Wars is the soft reboot, I guess they wouldn't be introduced so late

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u/DavoSeaworth96 7h ago

Yeah, isn't Ms Marvel also meant to be a mutant in the MCU? It's a difficult timeline to manage simply because Magneto HAS to be from WW2 unless retconnned so it's so hard to scale them to not be prevalent during the main MCU timeframe. I do feel for writers in every redo of x men for that reason

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u/vmeloni1232 7h ago

Yeah, they switched Ms Marvel from being an Inhuman to a mutant in the comics, so I'm sure she'll be a mutant in the MCU.

I know I'm in the minority here, but Magneto can't have the WW2 origin. I very much understand the importance of it, but it isn't going to translate to the late 2020s and into the 2030s. Unless they do timeline shenanigans, which i don't want, I don't know how it could be done. You can say his powers age him slower, but then he starts to age real time in the Movies.

I bet they won't even touch it, so we get the same character without having to have the details and get messy

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u/DavoSeaworth96 7h ago

Agreed honestly. Like I've seen the takes to swap him to being Rwandan but that feels... Insensitive for some reason? Almost like marvel would be pouncing on a more recent tragedy for logistical reasons. Maybe it could be done well and respectfully but it would be tricky. I agree with you, best way is just to introduce magneto and leave it open to interpretation