r/mildlyinfuriating • u/fuckingmln • 22d ago
Infuriatig The staircase in my apartment
If you need a good leg workout then you just need to go up on the stairs using one side only. They’re also such an awkward height, and made of metal.
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u/Both-Wonder2449 22d ago
This whole thread talking in Peetahhttps://giphy.com/gifs/IEAtAQNCbU8WgFBL5h
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u/ehhhhprobablynot 22d ago
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty…
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u/Jervis_Mantlepiece 22d ago
Would never have heard of Conway Twitty if not for this show.
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u/GaiaOnlinee 22d ago
Ooo a witch staircase
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u/rockitoy RED 22d ago
I have one in my house, you get used to them eventually. Guests HATE them tho.
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u/Consistent_Policy_66 22d ago edited 21d ago
My friend had them going down to the basement. They were super weird. My brain took a wrong step and I went down wrong for a couple steps. Would not recommend.
Edit: to clarify, when I say “wrong”, I mean I stepped with my right foot first, and it was a much bigger step than I expected.
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u/Kyle-Is-My-Name 22d ago edited 22d ago
I'm an Industrial pipefitter. We work at heights on a regular basis (40 to 300 feet usually), but if we have to do a lot of work to a flange or make a fit for a welder, the scaffolding company will come in and build us a temporary scaffold with a plywood floor.
If there are two different pieces of wood covering the floor, and one is a 1/2" or so smaller than the other, your brain can tell.
There's nothing scarier than taking a small step backwards onto a floor thats slightly lower. For just a split second your brain screams "YOU ARE FALLING. YOU NEED TO GRAB SOMETHING BEFORE YOU HIT THE GROUND AND FUCKING DIE!"
Then your brain catches itself and goes "Ah, it was only a 1/2" difference, my bad about the dying part back there bro. And we both know you're secured up here with a climbing harness, I shouldn't have said anything."
Survival instincts are wild sometimes.
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u/puzzledpuffling 22d ago
This has amused me infinitely to the point that I'm no longer mildly infuriated. Thank you for sharing!
Also sorry for your brain that goes through these high anxiety impending doom moments before you escape death
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u/thatG_evanP 22d ago
It's a bit different but I found myself running from the police once when I was about 13 y/o. I ran across a parking lot and came to a low concrete wall with a metal railing along the top of it. I saw what appeared to be bushes on the other side, so I hurdled the railing with the intention of maybe losing them in the brush. It turns out the "bushes" were the tops of trees and I had just jumped over a 25' ledge into a drainage ditch. When I didn't hit the ground on the other side immediately it was one of the most terrifying feelings I've ever felt. Had I not jumped through the trees I may have died. As it was I just injured myself pretty badly and fucked up both of my knees.
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u/AntiUsagi 21d ago
Horribly enough, once in our area some kids who didn’t know how to race tried racing at night on a highway here. One lost control, hitting the other. Going over the overpass into oncoming traffic of a lone elderly couple (who survived the crash). It was horrible. But one of the drivers, seeing the wreckage and bodies tried to run, jumping over the barrier— didn’t realize it was the tops of trees, broke both legs and they passed shortly after being rescued.
So yeah. Moral of the story to everyone else is don’t jump over walls unless you know it’s grass there. 😭
Edit for clarity.
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u/ResplendentOwl 22d ago
I learned from a decade of working retail in a mall that this is why escalators get closed when they're broken, even though as Mitch points out "they turn into stairs".
Ya they do, but they turn into stairs whose height are different than you're used to and the corners are jagged metal. Escalator falls, even when it's just forward into your shin can be pretty gnarly
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u/dgf0514 21d ago
Plus escalators as stairs are visually wooo wooo with all those darn lines exacerbating the depth perception problem.
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u/MartinisnMurder 22d ago
My dumb ass saw the first photo and thought it was one of those cat staircases people put up so they can have a way to be up high in their homes because it’s so narrow. I’m not awake yet.
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u/IndividualEye1803 22d ago
Fully awake and glad this comment is here because i gasped and asked if a cat made this
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u/Motchiko 22d ago
They have that name for a reason.
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u/Substantial-Sea-3672 22d ago
Because a witch can’t figure them out? Like, that’s the reason but it sounds like you’re suggesting it’s called that because of something nefarious.
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u/madam-sosostris 22d ago
I never understood why witches couldn't figure out weird stairs, doors that lead to nothing, or irregularly shaped windows. Does dabbling in the occult make you an uncoordinated, architecturally-challenged idiot?
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u/Beautiful_You3230 22d ago
People dabbling in witch hunting were uncoordinated and architecturally challenged idiots. Intellectually challenged idiots too.
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u/tr_9422 22d ago
Not a proper one, the left and right should be offset forward by half a tread. OP's is just a shitty staircase.
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u/donner_dinner_party 22d ago
Witch stairs. My relative has a very old colonial house with those.
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u/lagameuze 22d ago
Why the name ?? Why does it exist lol
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u/donner_dinner_party 22d ago
To confuse the witches of course. Superstition.
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u/lagameuze 22d ago
I mean witches arent dumb lol weird superstition
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u/Sloth7491 22d ago
Sounds exactly like something a witch would say to throw people off to not make this staircase 🤔
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u/PacoMahogany 22d ago
They don’t build those staircases anymore, so clearly the witches have won
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u/derekboberek 22d ago
I like the alternative history version of the name better - they are called witch stairs because you never know on which stairs you will trip.
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u/deuelpm 22d ago
For reals it is for steep locations where regular stairs would be more like a ladder. The “witch” thing is just a colloquial name borne of superstition and legend.
I had to look it up.
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u/Tyler_Zoro 22d ago
Yea, if you look closely at the picture, you can see that it lets you take a normal size step up with your left foot, then you lift yourself up and your right foot only has to extend a normal step's distance up, then repeat.
You take the same number of steps of the same height as a staircase that's nearly twice as long. The down side is that you REALLY Have to get used to it, or you're just going to faceplant.
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u/DartByTheBay 22d ago
Takes up half the length of a regular staircase. They're also called ship stairs in some places
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u/reddevils7070 22d ago
As someone with terrible body balance, I'd probably fall and break my neck within a day of moving in.
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u/akiva23 22d ago
A WIIITTTCHHH!!!!
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u/maddler 22d ago
I wouldn't have survived viewing the house. Let alone moving in.
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u/Valuable-Analyst-464 22d ago
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u/Sea-Course-5171 22d ago
Your brain actually does kinda just figure this out. Witches' Stairs are shockingly comfortable to use once you've gotten used to them, though they're mostly a thing in like old rural European homes
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u/y7gy7g 22d ago
But you won't be able to install a normal stairs after you scrap it. It takes roughly half the horizontal distance compared to normal stairs - that's the whole reason ppl install this.
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u/sollo89 YELLOW 22d ago
That + few drinks = hospital or InstaDeath
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u/fuckingmln 22d ago
The top of the stairs leads straight out onto the rooftop terrace, so after having a few drinks up there and making your way back down inside is a nightmare
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u/spynie55 22d ago
I suggest you install a fireman's pole for coming back down. Quicker, safer, and more fun.
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u/lordkhuzdul 22d ago
I think Fire Department Chronicles has a few videos about this shit.
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u/Rope_slingin_champ 22d ago
burrrrp You know what, im just gonna crash downstairs tonight.
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u/Wolligepoes 22d ago
Sober me is perfectly confident that moderately drunk me could navigate this.
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u/MrMacGrath SEVEN 22d ago
A few? Imagine the dead of night, half asleep, then hospital or six under.
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u/Secure-Pain-9735 22d ago
They are the way they are because they cover a good height in a very short distance.
It’s essentially “Eh, it’s this or a ladder.”
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u/Evening-Gur5087 22d ago
Homes in Netherland be like: hold my beer.
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u/MarieQ234 22d ago
I'll never ever get over stairs in the Netherlands. As a German, there are like a thousand laws that would make those illegal here and call them out as the deathtraps they are.
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u/Tight-Platypus5231 22d ago
"You said the patient was upstairs? ... Tell dispatch the patient isn't here."
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u/BoozeWitch 22d ago
I feel like I could do up. Even after a wine. But down would make me freak out.
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u/fuckingmln 22d ago
Going down always makes me feel like Bambi learning how to walk for the first time
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u/SolidGold_JetSki 22d ago
I would face forward, like when you're on a ladder on a boat
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u/Dag-nabbitt 22d ago
Worth noting that these are bad witch stairs. The left and right steps are not off set. So you'd have to step forward and up on your left foot, then side step up with your right foot.
Good witch stairs will always have you move forward with every step.
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u/NoSurprise7927 22d ago
That picture looks much more functional than what OP posted.
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u/ChibbleChobble 22d ago
Witches? Witches that are famous for being able to fly on broomsticks? Those witches?
Now explain how exactly the wonky stairs stop the magical broomstick from flying to the upper stories... outside the house.
Hear that tapping on your window? That's a witch mocking your joinery.
/s
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u/BitBucket404 22d ago
Normal stairs feature a large flat surface for the witches magic to repel gravity.
By breaking the stairs in half like this creates an uneven surface, and the witches' broomstick will automatically roll sideways, banging the witches' head on the walls as she tries to fly up.
My best guess, idk.
But if I was a flying witch wanting to reach upstairs and couldn't use the staircase, I'd simply go outside and break in through the window, making these stairs unnecessary and useless.
The fact that these existed, is a testimony to undiagnosed mental health problems in human history.
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u/UnhappyCaterpillar41 22d ago
Not really, they let you put in steep stairs that are usable in a much smaller footprint; the witch stair nonsense came later on what was a sensible and practical solution.
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u/OpportunityReal2767 22d ago
Funny. I just showed this picture to my wife and she instantly recognized them as witch’s stairs. I never heard of such a thing.
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u/ScratchLatch 22d ago
The name reasoning is a viral myth. There’s no evidence of that.
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u/Bread_Offender 22d ago
the one pictured seems far less practical than this one though
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u/MiyamotoKnows 22d ago
Imagine a fall down those stairs. You’d look like a julienned carrot by the time you hit the bottom.
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u/SimplyPassinThrough 22d ago
as a firefighter, this would make my people very mad lmfao
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u/Suitable_Entrance594 22d ago
My understanding is that this design of stairs is used when the horizontal footprint is too small for the vertical need and you would end up with steps higher than the legally allowed maximum. It's an interesting question whether these are actually safer than taller steps.
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u/Reverendbug 22d ago
These are called "witches' stairs," and they were popular once upon a time because it was thought witches couldn't go up them. Usually all the bedrooms were upstairs, too, so they couldn't come for your family while everyone slept. They make for a great conversation piece these days, but they're also a hazard in the event of a fire and most other emergencies as well.
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u/FrostyDragon227 22d ago edited 22d ago
Imagine your house catches on fire in the 1700s so you end up falling down the stairs trying to escape and everyone accuses you of being a witch lol
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u/shostakofiev 22d ago
I'd bet these were popular because of the smaller space that was required, and the name "witch's stairs" wasn't applied until much later.
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u/corinthianorder 22d ago
Also in today’s commercial architecture, these are referred to as alternating tread stairs. The International Building Code (IBC) only allows these for none emergency egress areas, think roof hatch access. They are still installed today however they are more expensive than a ladder so they don’t get used often.
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u/zv5000 22d ago
How is one supposed to move furniture or big appliances to the 2nd floor?
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u/Thin_Formal_3727 22d ago
By taking the full weight with your lower back, then twist and jerk your hips.
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u/kauzige 22d ago
I looked at a house with a worse, thinner version of these. I realized my parents would never make it to second floor while visiting.
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u/YellowBreakfast 22d ago
I realized my parents would never make it to second floor while visiting.
...So I put the deposit down immediately.
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u/c_adittya 22d ago
Is it to minimize the length of the staircase while also being technically normal sized steps ?
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u/nathanb131 22d ago
Yes, sometimes they are called "ship stairs". I work in a factory with a lot of them and don't hate them as much as I used to. Here's an example of them "done right" and are actually safe Home Page | Motion Savers®.
It's just a way for stairs to take up less of a footprint to achieve the same elevation change.
OP's post actually looks like a pretty creative solution to convert those ridiculously tall steps into better steps. I've been in lots of old houses with those tall steps, it's usually stairs leading to a 3rd floor attic.
OF COURSE they are not "code compliant". But the original steps without the boxes aren't up to code either. That's an old house. It'd be impossible to fit"normal stairs" in this space, look at that load-bearing header at the bottom. They weren't made like that through ignorance, incompetence, or maliciousness. They were made that way because that's the best of the bad options of making that top floor accessible.
The alternative to these "bad stairs" is no stairs at all, and to seal off the attic.
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u/BurnerAccount9872305 22d ago
Everyone’s fun comments aside. I think those are called witch stairs. They were in older times cause supposedly “witches can’t climb these stairs” or something like that
I think that’s what it is. I might be mistaken. But that’s what I’m thinking they are.
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u/YetAnotherSmith 22d ago
Old People can't climb those. All witches are old. Math checks out on this one folks.
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u/Vylbh 22d ago
but witches have flying brooms so I dont really understand how the stairs are supposed to keep them out
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u/Every-Cook5084 22d ago
Something can be mildly infuriating yet interesting. I'll allow it!
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u/Tbagts 22d ago
Have you ever seen a tight spiral staircase?
My dad used to cop half racks of Blitz Weinhard beer at the local distributor dock sales for half a dozen bucks, provided he filled the back of the 85 Cherokee, which he most assuredly did. Then, back at the crib, it was 7 year old me, chop chop, unload them beers, most ricky-tick.
The house had an amazing 70s wooden spiral staircase down the middle, safe on the O.D. but as you decreased in radius, the steeper it got, as any idiot understands. Or .. at least understood later.
No time to waste.
Fuckin GI Joe is on at 4, there's no goddamn DVR, there's no YouTube, watch that shit on your UHF Magnavox or miss it forever. That means double time, triple stack the 12 packs of bottles and haul ass down to the basement to pile 'em up.
Haste makes waste, I guess, because ain't nobody getting GI Joe after I slipped and ate shit with 36 bottles of Blitz on stair 6, soaking the carpet with suds and to this day the 95838th generation of wolf spiders probably have innate fetal alcohol syndrome, walking all weird, 34 eyes too close together, rumbling around like a genetic rubik cube.
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u/booradleysghost 22d ago
Not gonna lie, I was really hoping for some hell in a cell at the end of this.
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u/latexfistmassacre 22d ago
That was a trip down memory lane. Also I wish kids today understood the panic of potentially missing your favorite show forever
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u/DonatedEyeballs 22d ago
That sucked soooooo bad. It would ruin my whole week if I couldn’t watch You Can’t Do That on Television.
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u/HeyZeGaez 22d ago
Nobody getting GI Joe after I slipped and ate shit with 36 bottles of Blitz on stair 6
Damn now that's a bar right there.
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u/Wrong-Pension-4975 22d ago
OP, does this staircase actually meet building codes, locally?
Nationally?
2nd Q: Why no 2nd handrail, on the right?
The pipe handrail on the left is extremely narrow; adding a duplicate on the right, would not greatly narrow the walking area, but WOULD improve safety.
A right hand grip as U start down, would be helpful.
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u/Craigglesofdoom 22d ago
Legally speaking, this is classified as a ladder in the USA. Fun fact!
I don't believe it can be an egress route for fire code in most places. If you have concerns about it and want to piss off your landlord, ask the fire Marshal about it
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u/jfeathe1211 22d ago
This looks like those funhouse stairs where each side moves up and down alternately.
I’d give myself 3 months before catastrophic injury. What exactly are they trying to accomplish here that normal steps don’t? They don’t even look aesthetically or architecturally nice.
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u/DoctorHugoHackenbush 22d ago
I don't trust any staircase, they're always up to something..
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u/Putrid_Ad7911 22d ago
Imagine having to carry furniture or your mattress up those stairs 🥀
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u/meekinheritor 22d ago
My friend lived in an ancient house with stairs like these. I helped her move out. Never again, fuck that, oh my god. Lots of stuff happened during that move but carrying a cat tree down those stairs was the worst goddamn thing.
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u/Willing-Design-1276 22d ago
Quick question: why?
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u/MickyMalone 22d ago
It allows for a steeper staircase, in a compact space while decreasing successive step steepness.
What would you put in instead? There is no room for a spiral staircase
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u/concussive 22d ago
What a silly question, obviously a fire pole for going down and a mountain climbing rope with an ascender for going up.
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u/Phog_of_War 22d ago
First Responders hate the one trick. Imagine having to try and get a gurney up and down those stairs with a human on it.
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u/SawSharkRedemptionnn 22d ago
sleep downstairs when you drink and save yourself a hospital bill😂 thats insane hahah
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u/Neontom 22d ago
I hope you have an insurance policy that covers falling down stairs every day.
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u/HairySock6385 GREEN 22d ago
I don’t like that it forces the order of which I need to initiate walking up the stairs
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u/SafeTraditional4595 22d ago
I don't think I'll have trouble going up these, but going down... I think I'll have to go on my ass. I freak out going down on steep stairs or hills.
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u/iPatErgoSum 22d ago
All I can think is that slipping on those stairs would hurt sooooo much.
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u/MrRemoto 22d ago
These are called witches stairs or something like that. A lot of very old (like pre-19th century) homes in New England have them. Or had them. I think they were used where it was too narrow and steep for regular stairs and you couldn't turn sideways or something like that.
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u/Usual-Turnip-1257 22d ago
Grandma and Grandpa rsvp “no” for Thanksgiving and Christmas, et al.
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u/Regular_Mongoose_111 22d ago
As someone who always walks up stairs with my right foot first, this drives me nuts
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u/jdehjdeh 22d ago
So I googled witches stairs because I wanted to learn more.
The website I found assured me that their use to "ward off witches" has been debunked.
So I guess witches can just come and fuck us up no matter what floor we're on.