r/mildlyinfuriating • • 11d ago

I just wanted a hot dog These tips options

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Mildly cause at least I can custom

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u/clef75 11d ago

"the screen is gonna ask you some questions.."

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u/57_n 11d ago

Honestly this is what annoys me most 🙃 not only does it make it awkward for the consumer paying, but it’s obvious that the person on the till finds the situation awkward too.

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u/town_bicycle 11d ago edited 10d ago

I agree it's awkward but what else could they say in that moment?

*Edit for context:

To those saying “they could just hit no tip,” I think we’re talking about 2 different scenarios.

If you’re paying for a bag of chips at a gas station, I completely agree it’s absurd to prompt you for a tip. I was talking more baristas and bartenders that work for min wage + tips.

No doubt tipping culture has gotten way out of hand in the US, I’m just saying those min wage + tips folks are just trying to get through the transaction.

“Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
- Milhouse Van Houten

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u/karaggeorge2 11d ago

I’ve actually had someone in a small market I go to press no tip himself to get through the prompts before turning it to me to pay. Almost looked like the owner added the tip screen but either those didn’t actually go to the staff or they didn’t like it / found it too awkward. After a few weeks he didn’t do that any more. Assuming management wasn’t too happy with it

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u/DemandOk5785 11d ago

Because it's likely management actually keeps the tips.

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u/GreatestGreekGuy 11d ago

That's illegal... at least it is in my state

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u/Laughing_Fish 11d ago

It is illegal. And it is also common and there is no actual punishment for managers who do so.

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u/GreatestGreekGuy 11d ago

I've sadly actually seen this happen. The manager told them "go get a lawyer" and then ran off. He hired college-aged people, so he very well knew they didn't have the resources to sue him.

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u/krone6 11d ago

Wage theft is the #1 type from what I understand.

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u/Valalvax 11d ago

You're understating things just a little bit

Wage theft is number one, it's also more than the other kinds of theft .. combined

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u/A_Happy_Egg 11d ago

You mean tip theft is the #1 type of wage theft right?

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u/Certain-Towel-9487 11d ago

Yeah, people don't do illegal stuff!

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u/weedpony 11d ago

I do it because people just stare at me and don’t even look at the tip prompt, which I know they’re more than likely going to skip. Several other reasons but the main reason is because people are zombies.

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u/DemandOk5785 11d ago

Haha yeah I watched someone slapping his card against the machine while it was asking for tip. Lol employee was like wtf? I told you to hit this red button to skip.

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u/homer_3 11d ago

The company that's makes the sw gets a cut of every sale, including the tips.

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u/Fxenchy 11d ago

Happened to me. I used to work at a small alcoholic shaved ice stall in a community hall and had the same system set up. One day I notice one of my coworkers taking a picture of the system's report of our sales for the day which included total tips. I asked him why and he explained that he had done the math for a while and found that the amount of tips we were receiving on our paychecks was substantially less than what should have been. He said he was gonna keep collecting evidence and submit to the Department of Labor/state workforce commission. He did so and the process took a while, so long in fact that a couple months after I left the place and was working elsewhere, I got an email stating I had an incoming paycheck from them and was confused. Lo and behold it was a large sum of money labeled as tips. Messaged old coworkers including the one who did the reporting and they also had the same thing. Spitefully, I messaged the owner/manager of the business and asked why we were receiving it. They didn't respond lol

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u/krone6 11d ago

Imagine they included the "tip" into the product in some way. Maybe we can call it a tax. Hmm... /s

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u/ComprehensiveEmu9837 11d ago

I use to do residential HVAC and we would charge cards through our iPads. There was a tip option that started at 20%. I skipped thru it every time and no customers ever saw it. I would’ve felt like a beggar as I was already making decent money. And 20%-30% on an already expensive repair bill felt like a scam. But, if they offered to tip in cash I gladly accepted because it felt like that was something they planned on doing themselves.

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u/quagmirranseye 11d ago

That what they always do in my country. We dont have the US tip culture though.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 11d ago

If you just ask the employees, they'll often tell you if they actually get the tips or not. If no, then I don't tip or tip in cash.

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u/wompical 11d ago

I have seen people do this often

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u/lilhellmouth 10d ago

or his coworkers. i would be pissed if someone in the tip pool was doing this

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u/saikopasu_neko28 10d ago

Not tipping but for back to school my store added an option where someone could add a certain amount to get kids back to school stuff. Well I get a LOOOT of Spanish only speaking customers so at one point I got into the habit of just pressing no automatically for them lmfao.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 11d ago

“The screen is going to ask if you’d like to leave a tip”

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 11d ago

The screen asks that and also some service questions so it starts with tip and ends with a how did we do today - your version only addresses the tip. The server also doesn’t program the machine and the information changes, as does the order it asks, sometimes. 

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u/itsavibe- 11d ago

Exactly. There’s like a series of questions and not just one…

Hence the it’s gonna ask you some questions lol

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u/studiodrop 11d ago

I came for an order, not a survey

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u/Ok-Classroom5548 11d ago

Servers also hate the survey, but they don’t program the machine.

I promise they would also prefer to be paid a living wage and not require tips for survival. 

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u/itsavibe- 11d ago

People are dense af

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u/legoindie 11d ago

Truly. Living in a city, tips are a solid 30-40% of my income. It'd be great to just get paid what I'm worth and not have to worry about it (Ive always wanted tips to be reserved for personalized and exceptional service because in the specialty coffee industry that's what I strive to achieve), but as it stands, if we just stopped tipping and ended tipping culture, I'd be absolutely fucked.

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u/Pizzasl3t_ 11d ago

If tipping culture stopped, you would look for a job that didn’t rely on tips. It’s not a hard solution. In Ontario Canada, it’s actually illegal for a server to be paid less than minimum wage as of January 2022.

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u/legoindie 11d ago

I live in Ontario. In Ontario Canada, minimum wage isn't enough to afford life in a big city. The specialty coffee world is one of my passions and one of three jobs I work - and I already make decently above minimum wage in the field. It still is barely enough, and tips, as well as living with a partner, are the only reason I'm able to save towards any sort of future.

I also teach singing and music, and work gig work as an actor. Those pay a better, but it takes years to build up a reputation and connections to the point of working consistently enough to drop the "day job" fully. I'm not there yet, so I work in another field that brings me joy to pay the bills.

Maybe it's crazy of me but I believe that people should be able to work in fields they enjoy and get paid enough to live off of it. Minimum wage might be enough to live off of somewhere like Trenton or Pembroke, but I'd be miserable living there and unable to follow any sort of career path I enjoy, so why would I do that? I'd rather be struggling and doing what I love than making money and being completely miserable. That doesn't mean I can't advocate to lessen the struggle for myself and others.

You can't say "You would look for a job that doesnt rely on tips" when millions of Canadians, very likely you included, enjoy the services that restaurants, coffee shops, and every other job that pays minimum wage, on a daily basis. People need to be working these jobs, adults need to be working these jobs for society to function the way we currently live it. Those people deserve to afford to live as well.

Regardless of how you feel about the value of minimum wage jobs and arts workers, there is an objective cost of living crisis in Canada right now that especially impacts people who live in cities. Every single person living in cities rely on these workers, and yet they can barely afford to live in the city that requires them.

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u/neetochniet 11d ago

This is actually false. Multiple studies have shown that the hospitalities that make bank on tips do not want a “living wage”. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/KellyJoyRuntBunny 11d ago

Could you link a couple of these studies, please? I’m not familiar with that and would like to read about it.

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u/jbrWocky 11d ago

im not sure if coffee baristas count here

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u/Pizzasl3t_ 11d ago

I’ve never had a survey after the tip prompt.

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u/UnderstandingOne8410 11d ago

Could be the other way around

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u/Le_pengu 11d ago

Never worked in customer service award goes to this guy

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u/WartimeHotTot 11d ago

Huh?

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u/Le_pengu 11d ago

You never outright tell somebody the screen is asking them to tip. It’s essentially the same as vocally telling them to give money. It gives more of a choice to the customer when you don’t mention the tip.

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u/SuperMageFromOW 11d ago

"why the HELL would I tip at x place" is the response I get when I come out of my bakery hovel to take orders.

Ppl be rude, and it ruins the experience for the rest.

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u/My_Password_Is_____ 11d ago

But it's a valid question for a lot of the places trying to make you tip nowadays. That's not what is ruining the experience, shitty business trying to shift more of the onus for paying their workers onto the customer is what's ruining the experience.

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u/SuperMageFromOW 11d ago

I 100% agree. Maybe people should stop supporting those places entirely rather than just hitting no tip! I'd rather be out a job and shifting culture than have what we got now.

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u/My_Password_Is_____ 11d ago

The problem is that it's hard to not support places that do this when it's become almost entirely impossible to avoid. Hence why pepole are getting upset and asking the question, because we're seeing it nearly everywhere.

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u/Rhetorical_Menace 11d ago

Then stop begging for tips.

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u/WhySayManyWordGancho 11d ago edited 11d ago

"Can I have some of your money? I didn't do anything to earn it really"

edit: not saying people don't work for their jobs

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 11d ago

lol. I agree with this sentiment mostly, but I don’t get why they can’t just say “it’s gonna ask if you want to leave a tip”. Why do they feel the need to say “ask a question” instead?

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u/WhySayManyWordGancho 11d ago

yeah its like saying "i'm gonna go in to this room over here for some time" when someone is going to the bathroom, like it just makes it so much weirder

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 11d ago

Well that sounds sus 🤨

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u/Boring_Airline_1367 11d ago

Because it's embarrassing to essentially admit youre asking for more money. It's embarrassing to see these buttons add 2-4 extra dollars onto purchasing a single pastry that's already overpriced. I hate tipping culture but my skill set lies within the service industry. If I want to pay my bills I've got to flip that shitty little screen around at you whether I like it or not.

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u/calib0y64 11d ago

When I had to do this using the shitty square system, i would tyically say “you can skip this part if you like” and 99% of the time- they would then tip 😜

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u/Rhetorical_Menace 11d ago

I'm just so over it. I used to always tip at least 20% for full service, probably 15-20% for takeout, and at least a dollar every time I'd go to a coffee shop, but this was when it wasn't shoved in my face constantly. Now I still tip 20% at full-service places if the service was good, but I've started doing the math on the subtotal instead of the total, and I never tip for anything limited-service, like a coffee shop or a Subway. Tipping culture just got so scummy; the whole thing is built around guilt-tripping people instead of just asking for the price needed to make a profit and pay their employees.

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u/TheCrimsonDagger 11d ago

Personally I think it’s because people are used to tipping waiters/waitresses where it’s heavily expected. So in a similar situation (paying for food) there is this psychological pressure and feeling of obligation to do so.

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u/CSG1aze 11d ago

Because usually it asks for more than just a tip. Would you prefer they say “The screen is gonna ask you to leave a tip, then it’ll ask if you want a receipt, then it’ll ask if you want to rate your server, then it’ll ask you if you want to rate your experience, then it’ll ask if you want to rate the restaurant as a whole” or would you rather they just say “the screen is going to ask you some questions”

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u/Rhetorical_Menace 11d ago

The annoying part is that it's an option to tip in the first place if it's not a full-service restaurant.

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u/CSG1aze 10d ago

I agree

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u/Hot-Philosophy-1412 11d ago

Some people legit get offended.
I just don’t most of the time and often times they just leave the screen pending, if the customer was particularly an asshole, I’ll find them and let them know. They didn’t finish their transaction.
TLDR: Just click the fucking button, most of us don’t give a shit what your choice is.

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u/creynolds722 11d ago

I do concessions at a local concert venue, I work there as part of a non profit booster club. The only money we make is a small percent of sales and 100% of tips. The venue does not allow us to say the word tip. Literally not allowed. They know their prices are jacked to fuck and it'll only make the customers more mad to make it seem like we're asking for more.

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u/GroundMeet 11d ago

You act like cashiers are there pulling up the tip screen. It just pops up, we don’t control it and i tell customers they can skip it

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u/WhySayManyWordGancho 11d ago

Yeah I don't really like my comment now but I'm not going to edit it further or delete it. It absolutely sounds crappy and I didn't mean it that way but it does. I've been on that side of the register and I remember

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u/theninjaofthenasty 11d ago

“Can I have some of your money, this place won’t pay me a living wage” is more accurate.

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u/tentcamels 11d ago

they're not waiters, they're cashiers. they are protected by state and city minimum wage

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u/ForrestMoth 11d ago

Nobody who works as a cashier gives a shit about tips lmao

You guys are acting like the cashier coded it to do that, just hit no instead of throwing a fit or being weird about it, but I know it's really hard for you guys to just be normal. Easier to just be mad at ghosts instead.

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u/WhySayManyWordGancho 11d ago

I was just trying to make an amusing comment this morning, my comment's pretty crappy up there. I always tip because I know when I'm seeing a screen for tip in most places that means that it's helping the people out that helped me out. But that's almost exclusively in this one Mexican restaurant that I go to, I don't go many places these days

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u/Adorable_Secret8498 11d ago

Problem is in a lot of these front facing spots even mentioning the word "tip" is frowned upon

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u/IndividualTension887 11d ago

And since I don't do business with screens, no tip for screen...

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u/gua_lao_wai 11d ago

they don't have to say anything, tap the "no tip" button and avoid the situation for everyone entirely

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u/Bubbly_Wubbly_ 11d ago

My old boss would get mad if we skipped it ourselves so my line was, “the screen is going to prompt you but the skip buttons on the bottom” and that always worked fine

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u/Secret_Map 11d ago

The Subway next to my work that I go to has had a tip option on their credit card reader for a few years. I've never had any of the workers mention it, but recently, they've just started reaching over the counter and hitting the "cancel" button themselves to just skip it altogether lol. I've kind of appreciated that act, to be honest.

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u/Fast-Bag-1067 11d ago

That's because the card tips don't go to them in many cases. Only the cash tips. Or at least at some locations. At subway I always ask them where it goes to know how to tip

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u/Pope_Squirrely 11d ago

Our local shawarma place said that also, they get $0 of the card tips so they asked us not to bother or skipped the option for us.

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u/Secret_Map 11d ago

I honestly wouldn't tip either way, regardless. I tip well at sit down restaurants, but just won't bring myself to tip at a fast food place. But I do appreciate them just skipping past it themselves instead of leaving it for me to decide.

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u/trash_babe 11d ago

They do this at the Dunks near me. Good. I ain’t tipping since they probably made my coffee wrong anyway.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 11d ago

Why do you keep going to a place that gets your order wrong? Lmao. I feel like people like giving themselves drama just to bitch about.

If people stop going to shit places they close down. Or fix whats stopping customers from coming.

Them getting your money regardless says you dont really care lmfao.

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u/trash_babe 11d ago

Well I don’t go to Dunks very often because I live rurally and there aren’t many around unlike some places. Sometimes when I have to drive an hour+ to go to a work thing I will stop for a little treat to make the drive a bit less soul crushing. I don’t make drama for myself, I go to the one place on my drive to a monthly meeting where I can get a iced coffee and not go out of my way to get it.

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u/One-Ad-8009 11d ago edited 11d ago

That's what I say. I only have tip options because customers asked. As a business owner tips are always appreciated never obligated. You get the same service and product from me regardless. Now I have the square default percentages set up and never paid attention to them until this thread. I'd never set mine as high as those. They're high!

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u/StrongExternal8955 11d ago

"tell your boss i said "fuck you". and to pass it up the line."

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u/renee-a-saurous 11d ago

You'd be surprised how many people just slap their card against the screen

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u/rock1987173 11d ago

This is what I do. Get comfortable being uncomfortable, I don't think everyone needs a tip for doing there jobs.

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u/schu2470 11d ago

Agreed. If I order standing up or need to bus my own table or fill my own drink they get no tip.

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u/Wrx_me 11d ago

I've had some people just hit "no tip" FOR me before I tap my card. That's pretty chill.

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u/BooTsMaLoNe98 11d ago

When I worked for a carpet cleaning company, during the payout it would bring this up and I always flat out said “ Now it will give you the option to leave a tip if you would like and then you can approve the invoice right after” after hundreds of customers this felt like the least awkward presentation. Its perceived as some people actually do wish to leave a tip, but it’s completely optional.

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u/thesecretbarn 11d ago

I don’t blame the workers at all.

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u/EdgyPun34257 11d ago

I've had cashier's reach across the screen and click "no tip" before I even had a chance to look at it.

some people are genuinely embarrassed by automated tip begging

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u/iamyourfather-maybe 11d ago

I usually would say "there's going to be a tip option before you tap" because the amount of people I had get mad at me that they couldn't tap their card immediately was frustrating. Half the time they didn't even look at me when they'd pull up to the window to pay lol.

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u/57_n 11d ago

Tell me what questions it will ask. If they find it awkward to ask for a tip, why ask for a tip? The amount of people I see getting confused by this is unreal. Elderly people just tap their card and then the person behind the till always says weird things like “oh you have to answer the question first!” Or something.

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u/Cheesegasm 11d ago

Why is it awkward? I literally see no difference in reaction when I give no tip vs a big tip

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u/Thecosmodreamer 11d ago

"there's gonna be a tip option for ya and then you can pick your receipt" 💁🏼

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u/Snoo_3843 11d ago

I have a square for my fireworks stand, and we just skip the tip part for them and ask them to sign or if they want a receipt.

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u/Far-Speech-9298 11d ago

"If you want to leave a tip, there are some buttons there. Otherwise just hit the No Tip in the bottom right and sign to doodle. Other than that, have a nice day".

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u/soph0216 11d ago

I used to say “it’s going to ask about a tip but it’s not mandatory” or “it’s going to ask about a tip and then ask you to sign”

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 11d ago

Many will say 'you dont have to tip'

You know, normal shit

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u/homer_3 11d ago

"You can push no"

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u/NoRace5922 11d ago

I worked at a place where the owner stole all the tips and I used to say "press skip and tap". the manager was unhappy about it and told me not to say that anymore. sometimes we just don't have a choice 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/dealingwithhookers 11d ago

they could click the no tip for me and move the fuck on like this was never a thing before. few times in my life people have done that, too bad it was at a grocery store lol even the cashier was like "you don't have to do this bullshit"

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u/cirie__was__robbed 10d ago

“Hit the red button to skip”

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u/ZombCrusher666YT 10d ago

I always wondered: why do they keep staying at those low paying jobs? Why don't they look for better paying ones? Is it really thag hard to find a decently paying job in the states? (Also, what's the minimum wage over there?)

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u/jalspose 9d ago

I used to say “there’s an optional tip screen” that’s far better than the screen is gonna ask you some questions

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u/mrducci 8d ago

I got no problem tipping. At all. But putting a Barista on a list of tippables, but actively telling fast food workers to take it on the arches is crazy to me. Further, 20% is fucking generous. Starting the tipping at 25% is maliciously taking advantage of people who don't want to be awkward. And, if I am handed that screen, and see 25% as the starting position, I will only be pushing one button; No Tip.

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u/Old-Care-2372 11d ago

Business failure, 90% of people will click “No Tip” because it pisses them off out of spite. So they’re losing money really

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u/Alizarin-Madder 11d ago

I agree with you in spirit, but my anecdotal experience shows 90% of people don't do that, and if it was losing them money, they'd probably stop doing it. User research isn't that hard. 

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u/zzzola 11d ago

It’s becoming more of an annoyance than it ever has though.

I was at a restaurant where the left side also had the highest amount and the right side had the lowest. And I just knew it was set up backwards on purpose and it worked because I accidentally hit the higher amount.

Ever since then I’ve been so angry that I hit no tip everywhere I go.

If I’m going to tip I just have some cash on me and do it that way but I’m done giving tips on those machines.

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u/glemnar 11d ago

Small businesses are a lot worse at being data driven than you are thinking

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u/Alizarin-Madder 10d ago

I wouldn't expect small businesses to have time to be data driven, but they aren't the only ones using these tip screens. 

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u/viybe 9d ago

I don't think it's as data driven as you think-- it's money going directly to their employees, so the data doesn't matter as much to employers. Even if the data did suck, I've always thought this "tip everyone everywhere" craze is mostly just employers trying to throw their employees a bone.

"Look, I know you need more money to survive, but how about this-- you can let people tip you now, see?!"

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u/metalmudwoolwood 11d ago

The business and the worker are more than likely not the same.

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u/Old-Care-2372 10d ago

The business owner has to pick the tip amount no? So they are failing their employees to be making more money.

Sorry if this was unclear. But then again, I guess most people are willy nilly with their money and tip regardless even if they don’t want to pay 25%.

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u/trSkine 11d ago edited 11d ago

They gotta say something, same reason people have to be told to take their card out of the reader, oblivious people.

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u/HotDogsAlDente 11d ago

Yeah a lot of people who still don’t understand basic technology interaction

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u/Klugenshmirtz 11d ago

A cashier in the UK canceled the screen before handing it to me. Super funny how annoyed he was about it as well.

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u/DOAiB 11d ago

If things are reasonable you can maybe guilt me but tipping has got so insane I am just blind to it now. Just no and move on in my life. Worse is I have started seeing fast food pass the payment terminal out the window on a stick. The only reason is so you can handle the tip screen.

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u/AbilityAdventurous22 11d ago

Let’s be honest we just want cash tips anyways idc what people press on that screen

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u/AliveAndNotForgotten 11d ago

I always feel like they’re judging me when my hand hovers to no tip at coffee shops so just try to do it in secret

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u/WeedingTheGarden 10d ago

As a barista, we don't care. It's more annoying when customers make a big deal about it, whether it's trying to be evasive or apologizing/justifying for not tipping. Just hit no tip and move on, and be nice to the barista. I care wayyy more if someone is nice to me than if they tip. If they judge you for not tipping, that's a them thing.

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u/Sad_Librarian 11d ago

Before I click any amount, I usually ask if the person at the counter actually gets any of the tips. If they do, I'm more inclined. That's most often not the case.

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u/Alizarin-Madder 11d ago

I'm going to start doing this, because my biggest annoyance with this is not knowing if the tip is for workers or if it's just turned on by default in the POS and goes to the company. If I ask, I won't have to feel like an ass or a fool. 

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u/josocustomdesign 11d ago

I used to think it's awkward, but after clicking no tips many times while the cashier stares at you, it no longer feels awkward. I just tell them thanks and leave.

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u/RaineDrop39 11d ago

As a food service worker trust me, we find it extremely awkward behind the register too, especially with older people who don’t understand how/ where to sign.

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u/BrokenBredStik 10d ago

It's incredibly awkward, especially because at my work place we can SEE the tipping screen and see what they choose, so usually I try to look away from them but at times I can't so it's even more awkward!

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u/Ohio-Knife-Lover 10d ago

I have zero problems hitting "No Tip" because I'd rather tip the person if they deserve it and not put it on the card. Plus tipping isn't necessary especially when they don't do anything