r/mildyinteresting • u/michaelmaier007 • Sep 13 '26
architecture spaces š The geometric paving around this central drain doesn't meet evenly
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u/FishAroundFindTrout9 Sep 13 '26
That has to be intentional, right?
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
Presumably. And this is why people hate architects. These people spent a metric fuckton of money custom-casting these brass drain grates instead of just figuring out how to terminate the brick pattern neatly. Brick is easy to cut!
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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Been in that exact building
Gives off disorientation vibes standing outside and looking up or looking out some of the windows and the other non-vertical architectural features.
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
It also leaks like a sieve and cost the university huge amounts of money to fix, all because Gehry thinks heās so special physics should obey him.Ā
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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 Sep 13 '26
š Hadnāt talked to the maintenance folks.
Theyāre the ones whoāll give you the straight story - cuz they need to fix all the crap that breaks (leaks, falls down, burns) because of artistic license.
Ironically itās on campus of mass institute of TECHNOLOGY !
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
Oh, on this one you donāt have to have an inside line to the facilities folks. MIT sued the shit out of him.Ā
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u/NightmareJoker2 Sep 13 '26
Yes, but none of the issues actually involve the abstract design or artistic license, and revolve solely around construction faults, drainage issues (not resulting from the unusual shape!), and gaps in the construction material through which water would leak into the building, and mold would grow in the now wet wall space.
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
I take it you havenāt built many things. The weirder the angles get, the harder it is to get all your flashings correct and so on. The weird angles are absolutely part of how this happened.Ā
Also Frank Gehry being a lazy asshole.Ā
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u/Sea_Prep_Tidal_26 Sep 13 '26
Both of you can be correct here.
Perhaps the choice of the construction company and the actual builders and engineers is critical for successful construction of Ā« non-traditional Ā» designs ?If your professional acumen doesnāt include these design edge cases you are more likely to use default techniques which could lead to problems as already mentioned above.
I cannot lend any support for or against Mr Gehry taking on the properties of a rectal sphincter. Thatās out of my area of expertise.
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u/NightmareJoker2 Sep 14 '26
Is it harder? Yes. Does that mean you canāt account for that and still do it properly? Absolutely not.
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u/Rockshasha Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
It would be much more better(?) if the windows in those facades were inclined too. Like don't need of course a unique design for each window, maybe two inclined window designs would be enough... Isn't?
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u/Ok-Pair-4757 Sep 14 '26
It's like describing a building to someone who's never seen one before and asking them to build it
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u/Rafael__88 Sep 14 '26
I would've said it's AI generated but honestly AI looks better than this nowadays
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u/_stupidnerd_ Sep 13 '26
The paving was terminated neatly. And look at those nicely cut stones.
The thing is, if we just made everything straight forward, everything would be boring. After all, they could have also paved the entire area in one direction and used those generic square drains. But then no one would look at it.
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
I said the pattern, not the brick. The pattern of each wedge should have been modified to terminate in a way that related nicely to the wedge next to it. This is just lazy bullshit. And still requires cutting bricks (thereās no stone here) around the linear drains where each wedge slams awkwardly into the next.Ā
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u/im_just_thinking Sep 13 '26
Who tf hates architects? Sure some are weird but they are pretty far down on a list of despicable professions imo
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
People donāt even always realize what they hate is the architect. Often people justā¦know a space doesnāt work and donāt know why. In fact the reason is often the architectās vanity and/or laziness.Ā
In the building trades, everyone hates architects, though. Because instead of resolving that design along a nice line, the architect made the person laying the brick pavers cut that damned stupid notch along the linear drain. Because architects very commonly donāt know or care when theyāre making something clumsy and difficult to actually do. All architects should have to do internships in framing, plumbing/wiring, tile-setting, and roofing before they can get a stamp.Ā
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u/redraider-102 Sep 13 '26
Architect here. While I disagree with your overall sentiment toward my profession, I do agree with your last sentence and have often said the same thing.
Iāll preface this by saying that Iām in the US, so requirements can and do vary worldwide. We have extensive licensure requirements here, but what often ends up lacking is a practical working knowledge of construction practices outside of a drawing environment.
I understand that not everyone has the physical ability to perform construction duties, but I do believe that classes offering hands-on building experience should be a requirement in college, not an elective.
For example, you donāt need to set foot on a construction site to know how to apply a water resistive barrier system. My university had classes where students would build small mock-ups of such systems to put actual physical qualities to lines in a drawing. The problem, again, is that it was an elective, not part of the core curriculum.
Without this particular learning experience, people fresh out of school will learn how to properly draw waterproofing details but may not understand how the lines in those drawings actually correlate to real building materials in the actual built environment.
Iām rambling, but Iāll end by saying that a great architect is an asset to any project, because they have made an effort to learn how the built environment goes together in reality, not just theoretically, and will collaborate with other disciplines in a way that relies on their expertise rather than undermines it.
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u/AccidentOk5240 Sep 13 '26
So, #NotAllArchitects?
Yes, sure. I love architecture, and someone has to create it. But that means I think we need to expect better of the people who do it. And when everyone from entry-level drafters to Frank Gehry is out there drawing shit they donāt understand, what we get is shit architecture and I think weāanyone who cares about architecture, which should be every human being who likes living indoorsādeserve better.
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u/ComprehensiveCup7104 Sep 13 '26
Is it possible OP's picture shows intent to create a spiral pattern of water flow, which could reduce blockage by debris?
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u/pumpkin_seed_oil Sep 13 '26
The same people that hat artists and it makes sense, architects are artists that can only draw in straight lines.
Jokes aside, the kernel of truth is if people cannot easily identify the intentionality behind the architecture they will hate the archtitect
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u/National-Frame8712 Sep 13 '26
An architech's unrestrained fantasy is often translates itself into a nightmare for engineer and (usually tolerable levels of) inconvinience for public consumers
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u/LakeSolon Sep 13 '26
I mean I donāt hate architects or industrial designers but my fucking god we solved The Chair so now the only contribution the designer can have is to fuck it up in their own special way.
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u/pontetorto Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
Yeah, at most this is plates and tig welding. If i cant see this from above i give no comment on the skill of the architect. But the paving itself is nice.
Also, not suprised if this is a reference point for survey, cuz why not.
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u/cmhamm Sep 14 '26
Those grates arenāt custom casted. Different-sized right triangle grates and a couple symmetrical isosceles ones.
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u/Historical_Rock5220 Sep 16 '26
These brass drains dont look like they cost a fuckton of money, also not custom casted you can just cut brass too
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u/c08306834 Sep 13 '26
I feel like there's no way that this wasn't an intentional design.
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u/BillyMaysHere207 Sep 14 '26
Oh wow I thought you drew a shitty partial outline to help highlight it. But no, thatās just it
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u/TheLegoPanda04 Sep 15 '26
repost because apparently using the google share link to not make it a wall of text is somehow not allowed and this is preferable???
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u/MountainConcern7397 Sep 13 '26
it kind of looks like it would make a really great water tornado in the puddle as it begins pulling the water out at a father distance and then pulls it in a circle as it gets caught in the shorter grates. Idk it just looks like itās swirl that shit
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u/Sportak4444 Sep 13 '26
That's actually so cool! I'm glad that someone finally uses a mildly interesting sub instead of the mildly infuriating one for this. This is just interesting, no need to be angryĀ
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u/ebx978 Sep 13 '26
I love this. This is clearly intentional. Itās a nice, aesthetic centerpiece on what is literally a drain.
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u/EdgeLordPrime859 Sep 14 '26
Was this assembled incorrectly? It almost looks like you could make this look geometrically correct if you move some of the pie pieces around.
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u/realdebut Sep 13 '26
I need it to be gone. The Risk of passing that montrousity is just not bearable
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u/Gator242 Sep 13 '26
So many different definitions of beautiful out there.
To me, it irks, but I donāt have to look at it
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u/Wilsonj1966 Sep 13 '26
Looks like it could be a cover for a staircase to access the drainage system
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u/shazed39 Sep 14 '26
Its not pretty, but i kind of like it. Its not perfect snd that makes it better, we have a constant need for symmetry which can make it biring if we only see it. Its kinda the same with colorfull houses or cars. I wouldnāt want one, but imagine every single car you ever see is just black. It would all be so boring and monotone.
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u/vapocalypse52 Sep 14 '26
So that the repairmen don't use the wrong cover like you see in so many jobs.
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u/mittfh Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26
It would be interesting to see a wider view of the paving there, to see how the asymmetry around the entire "wheel" ties into the surrounding paving. Unfortunately, Google can only find it here, and none of the other Reverse Image Search sources can find it.
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u/InconspicuousLoaf Sep 14 '26
This did something weird to my eyes and I'd like to know what its called or what physically happened to my eyes.
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u/SeaUrchinSalad Sep 16 '26
Man if I stumbled across this in a foreign city tripping my ass off on shrooms...
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u/diegoagogos Sep 16 '26
It looks like one of those places where multiple states meet so you can stand there and be in like 3 states at once
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u/mudamuckinjedi Sep 13 '26
That makes it perfect, in a world where everyone is running around in order to achieve perfection in an imperfect world. It is refreshing to see some of the not so perfect around.
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u/AntGroundbreaking180 Sep 13 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/FSH4Ks5VNSESzcLYgo
Thereās only one way to be sure.
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u/uwearclownshoes Sep 13 '26
It shows variation radiating out from a clearly defined center. It starts in the middle.
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