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Daily Simple Questions Thread - Jul 14, 2015

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15 edited Jul 14 '15

I plan on purchasing a gaming computer within the next two weeks and I want some advice. I'm currently looking at the "Black Pearl" from Cyberpower PC and I want to know if is a good choice. I'm wondering if the company makes good quality products and if the computer is listed at a reasonable price.

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u/XfishfighterX Specs/Imgur Here Jul 14 '15

I would say for $1750 you should go for these components. Top of the line CPU even for editing, 1TB of HDD storage, 500 GB of SSD storage, a powerfull 980 Ti ready for 4K gaming and Wi-Fi ready too.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $328.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $87.55 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $97.99 @ Micro Center
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $47.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $164.00 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $47.99 @ Best Buy
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card $679.99 @ NCIX US
Case Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ NCIX US
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) $86.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter $37.24 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1793.70
Mail-in rebates -$50.00
Total $1743.70
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-14 12:23 EDT-0400

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15 edited Jul 22 '15

I think I'll at least try my hand at building one myself using this website to buy the parts. I've changed a few things, but this is what I think I will go with. I'm planning on ordering them sometime next week.

This is what I'm currently looking at.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $328.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Nepton 240M 76.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $79.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $97.99 @ Micro Center
Memory Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $105.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $177.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card $669.95 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ NCIX US
Optical Drive Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $14.98 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) $86.98 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1845.23
Mail-in rebates -$70.00
Total $1775.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-21 23:04 EDT-0400

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u/XfishfighterX Specs/Imgur Here Jul 15 '15

I would advice you to go with the Fractal Design R5 Case I recomended to you before. It is beautiful, easy to work with (the cable management is easy), it is very, very silent and it features massive radiator support. I also listed a Wi-Fi adapter in case you have no Ethernet cables near you. In case you do forget the adapter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '15 edited Jul 15 '15

I'll change it back when I get a chance. I was just thinking that I wanted one that looked nice, but I guess it doesn't really matter how well the case looks. The one you chose looks adequate, so if you think it is the better choice, I will change it back.

EDIT: I think that I'm going to go with the version of the one you recommended that has a window. I think it makes it look nicer and that the $10 extra is worth it.

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u/Marenjii R5 3600|RX 5700 XT| 16GB 3200 RAM Jul 15 '15

Why an i7?

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u/XfishfighterX Specs/Imgur Here Jul 15 '15

When you raise the price point you have to upgrade every part of the PC. An i5 in the $1750 price point doesn't make a lot of sense, the same with not going with an SSD when the budget is superior to $800. The build has to be equilibrated.

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u/tajjet Intel i7-4790K @4.7GHz, Sapphire Tri-X OC R9 390X + 290 Jul 14 '15

I second the EVGA Superclocked+ edition of the 980Ti, best one on the market.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

General rule of thumb is most pre-builts are rip offs in some capacity. They will usually load you up with an i7 and some measly GPU while still making you pay a pretty hefty price for it.

Even if they include a reasonable GPU and CPU it is not uncommon to see these be way over what it would coust to just get the parts yourself.

If you are in the US Canada region, I would see about NCIX's pre-building service. They only charge an extra 50USD on top of parts and then build it for you. It is one of the better pre-built packages I have seen.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I was looking for a more specific answer to the original question compared to just a generalization of pre-built PC's. Does that one fall into that generalization?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I can't say for sure as looking it up on their site brings you to customization page so it is going to depend what you configured yours with and their rated price + shipping and all that jazz.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I was thinking of the settings the way that they begin. The only thing I was planning changing was the case.

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u/trimpage 3800X, RTX 2070S, NH-U12S, 32GB DDR4 3200 Jul 15 '15

Yes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

Origin PC is a lot more expensive than what I was looking for. Are there any other trusted websites that have a larger range of prices? I'm also considering going to a local computer store and buying one from them. I just don't trust myself to build it correctly if I did it myself.

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u/higgerr Jul 14 '15

I just ordered the vanquish 3 from digital storm. I put all the parts into PC part picker and I was saving around 130 if I made it myself. For the extra 130 I also got windows 8.1 and them to make it as well as a four year warranty and I heard they have good customer service. I haven't got my system yet as I ordered it on Friday but I felt as my first gaming pc that was the way to go.

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u/All_Work_All_Play PC Master Race - 8750H + 1060 6GB Jul 14 '15

With what people are saying below - where do you live? Plenty of people (on here and CL) would love to help put with a build, and even if you paid a premium for the help (some % of the total build amount) you'd still come out way ahead of prebuilts in most cases. The longest I've had one take is 2 hours, and that was with identifying a defective part (motherboard).

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I live next to a college, and I know that there are a few computer stores nearby, so I will consider going to them, once I receive the parts.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

I'll look into it, but I don't think I would have the best cable management and that kind of stuff. Would that effect the performance at all?

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u/mynewaccount5 Jul 14 '15

Are you willing to spend a couple extra hundreds bucks because of "bad cable management" which doesn't even have much of an effect?

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u/keeok Jul 15 '15

Don't worry about cable management. It can effect performance but its generally more of an ascetics thing. If that is your big hang up about building a pc then you are good to go I think.

I just built a system last week and it isn't that bad. It just takes some time so set out a day and take your time. Go look look at /r/buildapc and ask around. They are generally really good help about where to start etc. Or buy a prebuilt, nothing wrong with that but for a high end system consider building it yourself.

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u/Omnisophic i5-4690K | GTX 970 | 16Gib RAM | Linux Mint Jul 14 '15

A quick, easy video is "How to build a PC" by LinusTechTips. Sorry I can't provide the link. I'm on mobile.

But honestly, it is quite easy and most people here will be more than happy to help you.

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u/fallout68 750Ti, FX-4130 Jul 14 '15

You can pay NCIX around 50USD to do it for you, or any local computer shop.

http://www.ncix.com/detail/pc-assembly-and-testing-with-6c-7842.htm

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '15

NCIX doesn't sell all the parts I want, but I might take it to a local place if I can't figure it out myself.

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u/Rocky55119 i5-6600 GTX 750 Ti Jul 15 '15 edited Sep 27 '16

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What is this?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '15

Good to know.

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u/m00nkeh Jul 15 '15

Give yourself more credit, it's really not that hard, you'll get way more bang-for-your-buck and there's literally thousands of us who'd be happy/willing to help you if you need advice at any step of the way. Do a bit of research, watch videos of others building their rigs (i.e. don't just be that guy who asks questions without at least attempting to find the answers for yourself) and you'll be fine :)

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u/Hunter_Hatz i5 4460 | r9 280 | 8GB | Steam: XWarTurtleX Jul 14 '15

Definately build your own!