r/whenthe • :3 • 17h ago

r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything Claude made it

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u/Comfortable-Bison932 14h ago

Call me crazy but using ai for code is different than using ai for art. I don't really consider coding an art. it's a skill for sure but ai allows you to do the hellish parts (like decompiling) so much faster and less tedious you would actually be a masochist to not use it.

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u/CingRam004 13h ago

I think what people fail to realize is that virtually all programmers are using AI to help them code at this point.

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u/Dat_yandere_femboi when imposter is sus: ding ding ding ding ding ding ding 11h ago

There’s a difference between using AI, AS A TOOL, to help them debug or find mistakes faster, vs having AI write the code with zero insight

They don’t and won’t understand the basics of what it makes because they lack the background of having learned how to code

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u/CingRam004 11h ago

Sure, the problem is most people who blindly hate AI, don’t care how you use it.

It’s just blanket demonization.

And I don’t really blame them. AI companies and AI bros are insufferable.

It really overshadows how amazing the tech is.

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u/ErorrTNTcz 6h ago

yeah, non-programmers didn't care if you used java, c or python before, but now if you mention you used AI they will eat you alive while the end result is usually still the same.

Also hating on the vibecoded rewrites of games is a bit unfair imo. it's free software that isn't important and would have never existed without AI. Even if a human did write it, it still would have been spaghetti code to make the thing run for a quick youtube video.

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u/Several_Hour_347 11h ago

People are using AI to write code though…. That’s literally what’s happening

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u/RedSlimeballYT 8h ago

i wonder what about edge cases where you have two concepts you want to put together but you use ai code as the glue? like "i want to see what happens if i put an image through this specific mathematical algorithm to turn it into audio" and you ask the ai to make an implementation, since clearly your ideas and brainstorm is original even if you lack the ability to code

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u/Comfortable-Bison932 13h ago

it's true. I think people will probably always use ai in coding. Especially in corporate environments where companies just want a lot of work done fast.

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u/ImitationGold 6h ago

Correct me if I’m wrong but they are using AI to code yes but now it’s vibe coding via the internet. It used to be rules and guidelines you put in place. Now the rules are “exist”

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u/ai_art_is_art 13h ago

I love it how artists call their thing special but claim programming isn't. (Don't do that, OP.)

I also love it how the majority of programmers embrace AI and they are using AI to do other things unabashedly.

I think programmers like to make and do everything, they just don't have time for it. Now that ambition is unbridled and they're making things to their heart's desire.

Artists neg on each other and their styles. It can be quite toxic. Perhaps that's why they don't lean into using AI, because it isn't "their style", so they can't fathom using something that doesn't look like their line art or coloring. Engineers and programmers are used to working on teams, and even if they have their own style, they know someone else will come in and possibly change their stuff, so they're less protective. (It doesn't mean programmers aren't protective.)

Artists are just going to have to get used to it. AI is overwhelming taking over all the feeds, and if they want to participate in social media zeitgeist and commentary, they should view the tools as letting them do bigger scoped things. Short film, movies, games, etc.

And it's not like you can't heavily steer the models to using your aesthetic or style. Look at Gossip Goblin. His team's work is incredible. I saw an early cut of his new film, and it's better than Love Death and Robots.

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u/Emiicii 12h ago

did you use gpt to write this lmao

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u/vanquish_the_night 12h ago

Too many grammatical errors.

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u/ai_art_is_art 10h ago

Thank you.

FFS, the witch hunt is going to make everyone talk in single sentences. Paragraphs are scary now.

I'm the guy that built the AI Adobe suite, btw. I think AI is good for freeing users from big tech. We can literally stage a revolution of sorts and take the internet back.

Tech belongs to us again.

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u/vanquish_the_night 9h ago

I mean, I’m still largely anti-ai. Environmental and economical impacts as well as the loss of creative artistry positions this year alone…

But I’m also annoyed at the reflexive response to call everything AI.