r/windows98 • u/Any_Weight_2992 • 1d ago
Is my laptop rare?
My 2000 laptop it installed windows98 SE and 32bit
r/windows98 • u/oscareczek • Apr 30 '21
One of the most common questions on this subreddit is something along the lines of "Is my computer able to run Win98?" There is some kind of a guide on sidebar, but it isn't really specific and that's why I made this post. Windows 98 and Me support (about?) the same hardware, so everything I say about 98 applies to Me. Feel free to suggest changes in comments.
In my definition, computer running Windows 98 is the one that doesn't have any question marks in Device Manager and has graphics card installed (there are drivers called SciTech Display Doctor and VBEMP, but these are comparable to the default driver for GPUs in Windows XP upwards). For the sake of simplicity, I'll limit the devices to GPU, sound card and USB, because even some late Windows XP machines can have Ethernet network cards compatible with 98 and wireless cards are swappable.
Host operating system is the one you boot to straight from BIOS, without using any kind of virtualization or emulation.
See what CPU you have on your machine (in System Properties, accessible by pressing Win+Pause on Windows, or in BIOS) or google your motherboard/PC/laptop (further I'll just say "motherboard") and check supported CPUs.
It just works™, you can skip the rest of this guide, except if you have a dedicated graphics card. You can check your socket by trying to find this information on a motherboard, using CPU-Z or by checking the specs website.
If you have any GPU or sound card on your motherboard, you can't configure it on 98. USB 3.0 and wireless network card won't run. Ethernet network card will most likely not run, but there are some exceptions. Of course, all these problems can be solvable by getting era-appropriate PCI devices, but it's probably cheaper to just buy a Win98 laptop.
It might work, continue reading.
No.
To check what sound card you have, you can either read the specification of your motherboard online or check it in Device Manager (Win+R, devmgmt.msc).
Your sound card is most likely compatible. If it's AC'97, there's a possibility you won't get sound in pure DOS mode, but it'll work from inside Windows.
Windows 98 doesn't support HD Audio architecture. There is an unofficial driver for Windows 3.1, compatible with 98, that lets you configure the sound card with a bunch of parameters, but if you're reading this looking for help, then it will be too complicated for you. First Windows compatible with HD Audio is Windows 2000 SP4 with KB888111 installed. If it's a PC, you can also try looking for some kind of a PCI Sound Blaster that's old enough for Win98.
To check what graphics card you have, you can, as with a sound card, either read the specification of your motherboard online or check it in Device Manager, or just look at it if it's a dedicated PC GPU. PCI Express isn't supported by 98, but people had some luck with it.
If the model starts with GMA, HD, Iris or Arc, it's not compatible, otherwise it is.
If the model starts with X1 or HD, it's not compatible, otherwise it is.
If you have Quadro FX600 or newer or GeForce starting with 8, 9 or letters, it's not compatible, otherwise it is. If it's GeForce series 6 or 7, the compatibility with DOS games won't be as great as with earlier devices.
It's probably integrated to motherboard or it's been defunct at least since early Windows XP days, you can assume it works.
Same as sound card, you can either read the specification of your motherboard online or check it in Device Manager.
If it starts with a letter, it's not compatible. If it starts with 9, you might have USB working in 1.1, which is slow, but it's better than nothing. Otherwise, it's compatible.
Either you have Win98-era computer and you're wasting time reading this, or it's too new.
If the number starts by 5 or more, it's not compatible. If it starts with 4, only integrated graphics work. If it starts with 3, there are some minor unsupported features, but it should work. Otherwise, it's compatible.
Unless I missed something, all models are compatible.
If the model starts with C or V, you'll at least have some troubles setting it up. Otherwise, it's compatible.
If you have more than 1 GB of RAM, use PATCHMEM. If you use a SATA hard disk, use SATA and most likely AHCI (https://archive.org/details/ahci_win9x). If you use an SSD, use TRIM. All three programs are available at rloew's website (RIP). If you want a USB stick support on Windows 98 (Me has built-in support already), use NUSB. There are some other drivers available on the last website, which might help some people.
A guest operating system requires a host operating system and some kind of a program to make a guest environment to install OS on. Most likely you will be able to install 98 in some way or another.
A word of warning if you use AMD Ryzen or Intel Core from 11th gen and up: there are some problems with virtualizing Windows 98, you can get countless crashes of system programs. A patcher for that was released: https://github.com/JHRobotics/patcher9x
There's now an accelerated driver for all modern hypervisors: https://github.com/JHRobotics/softgpu, but it might be buggy in some situations.
The best, but also the heaviest CPU-wise, way to install Windows 98 as a guest, is to use 86Box. I also mention PCem since it's still alive and 86Box started as a fork of it. Both programs are able to emulate anything starting with original IBM PC and ending at AMD K6-III, perfect for 98. Obviously, the newer CPU you emulate, the stronger machine you need. The main advantage of using these emulators is much higher compatibility with old games compared to virtual machines.
If your computer is too weak for emulation, you can try making a virtual machine. I recommend VMware for one simple reason - it has a graphics card compatible with 98.
If you have a PowerPC Mac OS (X) or Windows and it's not a 64-bit or ARM version of Windows 10 and up, you can try Virtual PC. It's fully compatible with 98, but it's also old (Windows Virtual PC was released in 2009) and people don't really use it anymore.
The main advantage of QEMU is that it's ported to every architecture and operating system imaginable. I suggest running it by a command qemu-system-i386 -accel kvm -vga cirrus -nic user,model=pcnet -soundhw sb16,pcspk -hda disk.img (soundhw is deprecated, but the non-deprecated way requires knowing what's your sound system on host). If you use it on architecture different than x86, it becomes an emulator. You need to remove -accel kvm in that case. You can instead add -cpu pentium2 to the command, maybe it will make things run faster.
Unless you really have to, don't use it, for two reasons: lack of Guest Additions for 98 means you can't use VirtualBox's Shared Folders feature and instead you have to rely on HTTP, floppies or CDs (for the last one there's an option to create VISOs on fly, but while it takes about no space, you still have to do it manually). There was also never a graphics card driver for it and VMware SVGA II driver doesn't work, even if you choose VMSVGA in machine options. That means you can't freely change resolution and your best drivers are VBEMP or Display Doctor, both or which simply use VESA, just like the lack of drivers on Windows XP and up. Emulated graphics is also terribly slow in standard 640x480x4 mode, which is what you get during installation.
Mac-only. Has guest "tools" or rather a total of two drivers: for network (which is optional) and video. The former only works if you remove a printer from the hardware list and its performance is abysmal (I got ~25 KiB/s max, frequent stalls even though i can see the network activity). Video driver doesn't list 32-bit modes for some reason, adding them (and/or some of the standard resolutions) in registry works. Sound isn't included on the "tools" CD, some tutorial recommended using this driver (use either the standard installer or WDM folder). Since it doesn't have acceleration anyway (at least 3D) and networking sucks, I think you're better off even with VBox.
DOSBox is, as the name suggests, an emulator for DOS programs. It is possible to run Windows 98 on DOSBox, but I personally don't like the way you need to imgmount followed by boot c, there are also less machine configurations to choose from. However, especially when using DOSBox-X, it can be an alternative to 86Box if you don't like it for some reason or another.
It's an emulator, it's not as popular as the rest and not customizable as 86Box, don't use it if you don't have to (you don't).
Most of the Android devices aren't x86, but rather ARM[64] (and some ancient ones are MIPS), so most likely you will need to emulate x86, which means that it'll be pretty slow, don't expect running NFS Underground 2 on that. If you can choose an emulated CPU, you should find a balance between speed of emulated CPU and speed of emulating (if you select 486, then Win98 will work slowly, but your Android CPU won't be used that much; if you select Pentium 4, then Win98 will work quickly, but your CPU might not keep up with it). You can find a list of CPUs by date for example on Wikipedia.
Android version of QEMU, the fastest, but might not work on all devices.
Mostly compatible with all devices, a "default" way of installing Windows from Android.
You can also try DOSBox, but I can't really imagine installing it using only the Android device.
r/windows98 • u/Any_Weight_2992 • 1d ago
My 2000 laptop it installed windows98 SE and 32bit
r/windows98 • u/Anxious-Grade-8857 • 6h ago
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Hi everyone! I just released a demo of my game, PixelPainter 95, on Steam, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
The idea is simple: you start by painting a small canvas, then unlock upgrades, bigger brushes, and little painters that automatically help you fill the canvas. Each time you finish one, you move on to a bigger canvas, eventually working your way toward 1 billion tiles.
I'd love to hear your feedback on a few things:
-Does the concept look interesting to you?
-Does the gameplay feel satisfying?
-Is everything clear, or is anything confusing?
-Most importantly, did you have fun playing it?
Any feedback is appreciated!
Steam demo: https://store.steampowered.com/app/5179110/PixelPainter_95/
r/windows98 • u/zoran123456 • 1d ago
r/windows98 • u/mwdmeyer • 2d ago
I've been working on an open source VGA driver for windows 98, adding support for GPUs that never had support before.
Intel GMA900/950 and now HD 4600 work in hardware Direct3D, Glide and OpenGL.
https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/releases/tag/v0.19.0
r/windows98 • u/fazz34 • 2d ago
I present to you the PAVILION SHITBOX FROM HELL. Why did I call it that, no idea. Basically, I got this 25 year old Pavilion because I needed something far more powerful than my Pentium 133 laptop, with enough muscle, and from the correct time period where it run Windows 98 and XP stability with all official support for hardware. Its stock configuration ran 98 very well, but I felt like it could be improved, so over the past year, I upgraded it.
CPU: Intel Celeron Tualtin 1.2GHz (aka the best and most legendary Celeron ever made)
RAM: 512MB PC133
GPU: BFG Tech variant of GeForce 6200A PCI (yes, I know a 6 series card under 98 is blasphemous, but it's my computer, my choice.)
Sound: C-Media 8738 (want to get a real SB Live or Audigy 2 ZS soon)
Networking: 56k modem
Hard drive: 80gb spinning platter
Optical drive: DVD-RW
Floppy drive: 1.44mb 3.5 inch
OS: Windows 98 + XP dual boot
Getting insane Quake III framerates while running the time demo at the settings shown, and it even runs UT2004 pretty well at the settings shown.
r/windows98 • u/Inner-Register-3664 • 1d ago
r/windows98 • u/yeokm1 • 2d ago
A couple of months ago, I brought xHCI support to Windows 98 through my xHCI98 project but it only powered the USB 2.0 part.
Over this time, I have improved the driver that Windows 98 (to 7) can support USB 3, USB4 and even Thunderbolt.
My blog post shares my journey and issues faced throughout this process of making this driver work. Even with AI's help, tests, troubleshooting and some human intuition/guesswork were still required from me.
r/windows98 • u/whotfisyoutho • 2d ago
I have MSN Messenger working on my Windows 98 VM and I'm connected. If there's anyone else who is, lets chat it up. If there's anyone who wants to, I don't mind running you through the steps.
r/windows98 • u/EREN_YEAGER_9608 • 2d ago
r/windows98 • u/Impossible-Tour4845 • 2d ago
Hi everyone, I’ve built a PC running Windows 98 (as you can probably tell from where this post is located). I need to find a sound driver to get the audio working, but I haven’t been able to track down the right one on my own. Could you point me in the right direction?
r/windows98 • u/Inspiron606002 • 3d ago
Made a post a while ago about not being able to install the integrated SiS video drivers on an old HP Pavilion (It would just BSOD) So someone suggested I just install a video card. So I found an ATI Rage IIC PCI card and installed it but I cannot get the drivers to work! There's no setup.exe file, So I had to manually point device manager to the .inf file, but it insists the generic Windows driver is better and won't let me install the ATi driver! What's going on here???
r/windows98 • u/Katmeow4321 • 2d ago
I cant really get Windows 98 on my hardware, but is there by any chance a allowance for Windows 1-3 and MS-DOS Content in here?
r/windows98 • u/guilia909 • 4d ago
Heey everyone! I'm hoping someone can help me to find a game from my childhood.
It came from those Brazilian magazines that included CD-ROMs packed with game collections, mostly was Flash games, SWF files, shareware and demos. The publisher of those magazines was Digerati (from Brazil) and this would've been around 2000 to 2004.
Here's everything I can remember about the game:
· 2D graphics with a flat, simple art style
· A female main character (she looks a female version of MegaMan)
· A city skyline / buildings in the background
· Aliens attacking from the sky 🛸 👽
· Power-ups that drop from enemies
· Side-scrolling perspective / city background
· It's at least 10% similar to games like Heli Attack 2 or 3, and Might No-9.
I know there's an archive site that catalogs games from that era, but there are just too many to dig through, and I haven't found it yet. I'm about 90% sure it was played from one of those Digerati CD-ROMs.
If anyone recognizes this or has any leads, I'd be incredibly grateful.
Thanks in advance!
r/windows98 • u/O_MORES • 4d ago
One of those USB 2.0 to Ethernet controllers that works on Windows 98, but also on the latest Windows 11! This one has a Moschip 7830 chip released around 2003 and it’s actually easy to install on Windows 98 (official drivers, no workarounds) and you can go online immediately.
r/windows98 • u/The-Tadfafty • 5d ago
r/windows98 • u/resfer11 • 6d ago
exactly what it says,a windows 98 desktop
r/windows98 • u/THEM_FRITZ • 6d ago
Hi everyone, I have recently installed a Soundblaster Live! CT 4870 (value) in my windows 98se machine and now it refuses to boot. It booted for the first time no problems, I installed the SBL CT 4670 drivers as that is the model name given to me by the seller, but it turns out it was a 4870. I installed the drivers for the 4670, and it has since refused to boot when I have the card in the PC.
At first every time it 'detected new hardware' it bluescreened, but now it seems to freeze when it detects the midi device. I have uninstalled the card and the machine boots fine, I tried deleting the software installed by the disc on the C drive but upon reinsertion it freezes again.
I really hope there is a way to circumvent this, I really do not want to boot 98 again, and have to install all the other drivers from scratch. The specs are a:
Geforce FX 5200,
512 mb Ram
Pentium 4
(Previously) Creative Soundblaster PCI128
Thanks!
r/windows98 • u/BrotherAdventurous35 • 7d ago
I attempted to install plus 95 and then plus 98 but when i do that the themes of both the versions stop working in plus 98 the icons dont work but they do show up on the desktop themes app for plus 98 while on plus 95 the icons dont show up anymore also theres 2 desktop theme chooser depending on which desktop theme app i choose also i tried amother time on a different folder like i installed plus to one folder and plus 98 to another folder it gave a performed ilegal operation
To make it less confusing after i install plus 98 on the same place as plus 95 and use desktop theme changer icons dont change they stay the same as the previous theme
r/windows98 • u/S3BA_QQ • 8d ago
I used "Windows 9x quickinstall", a project on GitHub. For Better compatibility, I put 2 GB of RAM in this PC. I flashed 9x quickinstall on a 16gb USB drive, booted this usb and selected "98 directX 8.1", applied all the necessary patch, like modern CPU patch, that were already in the .IMG of Windows 9x quickinstall and reboot. After some seconds, It booted in Windows 98 and It started searching for all peripherals. Then I reboot again and inserted USB audio (jack speakers with jack to usb adapter) and Windows 98 managed to successfully activate the USB audio driver (if It doesn't work you have to search for USB/USB audio drivers for Windows 98 and put them directly into the Internal SSD/hdd With another PC). For the mouse, i used a pre-loaded hid-mouse driver (on generic mouse driver section), and the mouse started working correctly(good, because using w98 with a keyboard only Is very hard!). Then I loaded VBE miniport VGA driver for 32 bit colors from C:/driver-ex, and It worked too! So i tested quake II and the game loaded successfully. (If you get a20 error the First time you booted Windows 98, you have to reboot the PC, press f8 or ctrl multiple times, select "Cmd only" and write: edit C: \config.sys , then add this line: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /M:1 . Then save and exit.
PC specs: Intel i5 4590t, 2gb DDR3 RAM, HD graphics 4600, 180gb SSD( Windows 98 limit Is 120-180gb for a correct working)
BIOS settings: storage=IDE, USB echi debug=off, USB 3.0=off Legacy compatibility=on, Internal speaker=off.