[Dellenger] The SEC, as expected, adopts a ban on professional players returning to college, which also includes basketball.

[u/arrowfan624]

https://x.com/rossdellenger/status/2092384141488620017?s=46&t=ORIpMJDxUeZOGLwe9AIhAg

[u/Drexlore]

Watch the ACC one up this with football, basketball and lacrosse next.

[u/Shenanigangster → u/Drexlore]

Unironically soccer would probably be the third sport for that (and tbh soccer is by far the worst offender with grabbing pros but no one cares)

[u/Sarollas → u/Shenanigangster]

Soccer is also a the hardest to set an actual definition for.

Does a player making 30,000 per year in the English 5th division count as professional?

[u/Irish8Runner → u/Sarollas]

Yes (although most of those teams are semi-pro)

[u/Sarollas → u/Irish8Runner]

Even that doesn't really make a difference in soccer.

I got paid 2000 for an individual tournament one time, I'm certainly not a god send of anything, but it is common enough in Europe/SA and small payments can jeopardize your NCAA eligibility

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/Sarollas]

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

[u/Milskidasith → u/Sarollas]

I think we should press gang players of your skill level into a team and have you get blown out by top college teams for clickbait college vs. pro youtube videos

(E: Also what did you play? I was a terribly mediocre left back in high school. No pay)

[u/ArsenalinAlabama3428 → u/Sarollas]

UCF has a player right now that played for Lyon and Basel professionally. Dude played in the Europa League and is now on a college roster lol.

[u/Cicero912 → u/Irish8Runner]

Not in England, vast majority of teams in the National League are professional. And even in the NL North/South its quite a lot of professional teams.

[u/KennyKettermen → u/Sarollas]

Hockey and baseball also have low level “pro” teams all over the world

[u/AccidentalPilates → u/Shenanigangster]

Tennis has to be up there, too. I played at a small D1 and got smoked annually by a school in our conference that had guys rotating in from ATP Challenger Tour with full eligibility.

[u/yung_dog → u/Shenanigangster]

For real. Ohio State signed a guy a while ago who made a Premier League appearance and was on the bench for a Champions League game

[u/wolverine237 → u/Shenanigangster]

Ohio State had multiple players last year who had appeared in Premier League games and nobody cared

[u/TheSavageDonut → u/wolverine237]

I think we need to start caring -- subsidizing the world's athletes when teams could be offering spots to homegrown talent doesn't make much sense.

[u/Redditor_exe → u/Shenanigangster]

The difference between soccer and basketball is that US universities are a step down from most European youth teams in that realm. Most of the time, if you haven’t signed a professional contract by the time you’re college age, you probably weren’t going to reach an NBA/NFL equivalent level. Maybe every 1/1000 will get lucky and sign with a League 2 or 1 team and work their up to the big leagues in their mid-20s, but most likely not

[u/Better-Temporary-146 → u/Redditor_exe]

See Vermont’s recent national title. 

Team was made of African and European players who weren’t going to advance in domestic soccer leagues, but could come to America and get an education and play

[u/tropic_gnome_hunter → u/Drexlore]

I don't see them doing it with lacrosse, it would only really affect Cuse. Lacrosse is an anomaly. There's not much money even with the big spenders.

[u/DethFeRok → u/Drexlore]

Gotta get the school chess team in there too

[u/SolarBeam12]

Something tells me this isn’t close to being over.

[u/Benchjc2004 → u/SolarBeam12]

The real story is LSU basketball. They don’t have a team to field with this rule.

[u/Aidanj927 → u/Benchjc2004]

They’ll just stock up on Europeans

[u/Deadleggg → u/Aidanj927]

Dey terk er jerbs

[u/No-Manufacturer-4063 → u/Deadleggg]

Dey terk er serbs

[u/GoonerBear94 → u/No-Manufacturer-4063]

Durk ur durbs

[u/FuckKroenke55 → u/Aidanj927]

I think most of the good Europeans have been picked through tho. Or are too old.

[u/Balloutonu → u/FuckKroenke55]

They still need a roster. They have like 4 total guys rn

[u/mysterious_whisperer → u/Balloutonu]

They have thousands of undergrads. Surely a few of them might be interested in trying out for the team.

[u/hyperbolical → u/mysterious_whisperer]

Students from the school playing on the sports teams?

Ok, weirdo

[u/sqigglygibberish → u/mysterious_whisperer]

I’d definitely watch a game of the LSU club team having to play against a good opponent.

Just one game, and maybe not the whole thing before I’d start to feel kind of bad. But they’d probably get a couple fun highlights out of the experience

[u/sokuyari99 → u/FuckKroenke55]

Well you have to convert their age from the metric system so that gives you a few extra years

[u/Lighthouse_seek → u/Aidanj927]

Aren't most good European basketball players technically on pro teams already?

[u/mortgagepants → u/Aidanj927]

aren't those often times professionals as well? like if they're getting paid at 16, does that make them amateurs or professionals?

[u/deadzip10 → u/Benchjc2004]

Oh no …..

Anyway ….

[u/knowtoriusMAC → u/Benchjc2004]

Rj Luis is the only one who falls under this. It doesn't say anything about international professional leagues

[u/Dangerous_Golf_7417 → u/knowtoriusMAC]

It says you can't have played in the NBA so anyone who's played for the Norwegian Basketball Association is out

[u/Jameszhang73 → u/Dangerous_Golf_7417]

God damn it, you got us there

[u/death2sanity → u/Benchjc2004]

Breaks my heart.

[u/arrowfan624 → u/Benchjc2004]

Oh the tears of unfathomable sadness!

[u/DodgerCoug → u/Benchjc2004]

That's why you hedge your college fandom big dawg

[u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 → u/SolarBeam12]

Some backwater Louisiana Judge will make a name for himself.

[u/LittleKoalaNickJr → u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

You wrote "backwater" twice.

[u/HotDawgConnoisseur → u/SolarBeam12]

There probably will be some more injunctions etc but it seems like Sankey will ban head coaches if they don’t abide by the rules (just like the B1G announced).

[u/_learned_foot_ → u/SolarBeam12]

No, this is the end. This is calling the bluff. These are state institutions in a different jx, the judge can't join them as parties, the judge can't compel them to play. This made it federal, just like tech, it moots the judge.

[u/rumblepony247 → u/SolarBeam12]

So, is this gonna play out like the Sorsby situation I wonder.

A court eventually compels the conferences to accept former NFL player, said player joins team, other teams boycott playing that team, and said player decides it's not worth the hassle.

[u/GoBlu323 → u/rumblepony247]

No. The conferences aren’t subject to the same anti-trust issues the ncaa is because conferences aren’t monopolies

[u/Awalawal]

I'd just like to congratulate Texas Tech. Everyone is about to forget that anything even happened in Lubbock this summer.

[u/Supercal95 → u/Awalawal]

That's collusion

[u/Every_Sentence_2797 → u/Supercal95]

You can't do that

[u/PhoneAcc23 → u/Awalawal]

Brendan who?

[u/LasixSteroidsAbx → u/Awalawal]

Some have room in their heart to hate 2 teams at once...

[u/ZombiesInSpace → u/Awalawal]

There is still time for Texas Tech to bring back all the bad will by trying to sign every former pro before the big xii bans it.

[u/SatansRep → u/Awalawal]

This aged poorly

[u/Born_Professor_6929]

LSU lawsuit imminent.

[u/retirednavyguy → u/Born_Professor_6929]

Every action is met with an equal and opposite law suit

[u/chaser676 → u/retirednavyguy]

You can't explain that

[u/Highest_Koality → u/chaser676]

Sun goes up, sun gets sued. You can't explain that.

[u/MidwestDrummer → u/Highest_Koality]

Technically speaking, all life on earth is possible because of the sun, so it must be a paternity suit.

[u/MidwestDrummer → u/[deleted]]

Fair point on chemosynthesis, but those vent-dwelling crabs and tube worms still breathe dissolved oxygen from surface photosynthesis. Sun’s still on the birth certificate, it's just paying child support through an offshore trust. 😉

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/chaser676]

you can't do that. that's collus-

wait sorry, wrong meme

[u/TKHawk → u/chaser676]

Player goes out, player comes in

[u/DethFeRok → u/retirednavyguy]

Newton is a real dumbass for not figuring that one out

[u/reb601 → u/DethFeRok]

Isaac Newton has zero SEC titles.

[u/SLAYER_IN_ME → u/reb601]

Stat of the day, folk!

[u/imarc → u/reb601]

Newton ain’t played nobody, Pawl!

[u/SLCer → u/reb601]

He don't go to school to play football.

[u/jeffvschroeder → u/Born_Professor_6929]

Well, what are we supposed to do? If we don't file a lawsuit, somebody else will. We really have no choice.

-Lane, probably

[u/Tfsz0719 → u/Born_Professor_6929]

LSU leaving to join the PAC-12 imminent.

[u/Pengwulf → u/Tfsz0719]

Don't give the PAC-12 any ideas.

[u/StrategicCarry → u/Pengwulf]

Pac 12 becomes the Enhanced Games of college football

[u/Pengwulf → u/StrategicCarry]

Enhanced Games after dark.

[u/rumblepony247 → u/Pengwulf]

I think I used to have that channel on my cable package. My wife found out about it smh

[u/imarc → u/Tfsz0719]

Mud coast joins the Pacific coast.

[u/Hulkodium → u/Born_Professor_6929]

Gonna hire the entire Russian national team

[u/Born_Professor_6929 → u/Hulkodium]

Bah gahd that’s Kim Mulkeys music!

[u/Geaux_1210 → u/Born_Professor_6929]

I hope not - some of us realize how ridiculous all of this is.

[u/Benchjc2004 → u/Born_Professor_6929]

The crazy part is they are still stacked with talent. Just ride with who you’ve got.

[u/10thRebel → u/Benchjc2004]

The basketball part is gonna be the driving factor for them cause without this they don’t have enough players to compete.

[u/BamaBuffSeattle → u/10thRebel]

Couldn't happen to a better program

[u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 → u/Born_Professor_6929]

Billable Hours are truly undefeated.

[u/cosmic_sheriff → u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

That sports law program at Oregon Law is looking really tempting right now

[u/odsquad64 → u/cosmic_sheriff]

They gotta get new textbooks every other week

[u/GoBlu323 → u/Born_Professor_6929]

Unlike the ncaa the conferences are well within their rights to make these rules

[u/Alphaspade]

Guvna Landry about to storm the SEC offices

And buy up more billboards in Birmingham

[u/Financial_Island2353 → u/Alphaspade]

He’s too busy claiming BR is better than NOLA and inspecting Greenland for invasion.

[u/independent__rabbit → u/Financial_Island2353]

I really wish this wasn’t actually true…

[u/DethFeRok → u/Financial_Island2353]

You mean wandering aimlessly around Greenland, showing up to meetings uninvited?

[u/PretendThisIsMyName → u/DethFeRok]

I would pay to watch that. Even in the age of people forgetting literally everything is free on the internet somewhere. Especially if he shows up in like Newfoundland, Iceland, and never Greenland. Or finally shows up in Greenland via sailboat only to come to find out. They do not like him when he was certain they did. Let Philomena trick him into it!

[u/DethFeRok → u/PretendThisIsMyName]

I’m not joking, this literally happened.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/DethFeRok]

let he who has not simultaneously been the governor of Louisiana and the special envoy to Greenland cast the first stone

... unrelated, I'm having trouble trying to move this boulder

[u/Astrosareinnocent → u/Financial_Island2353]

New Orleans might have the greatest delta between it and the 2nd best city in any state. Like I can’t think of a bigger difference between two cities. I guess BR is second by default, but it’s really rough. It has like all the New Orleans crime with none of the food, charm, culture, nightlife, or high end anything.

[u/Financial_Island2353 → u/Astrosareinnocent]

Lafayette is better than BR IMO. Cleaner, safer, better culture.

[u/CWG4BF → u/Alphaspade]

GUH’VUH’NUH LAAAAAAAWWWNNGGG

THEYS SAYIN’ THEYS WONT LET THEM BOYS BE TIGAHS

[u/knowshon24 → u/CWG4BF]

Guvvnaah Laaawwwng, Put that pro contract in one hand and a live tiger in the other and tell me which one you got more of.

[u/trezlights → u/Alphaspade]

His state is doing so well economically, I’m glad he can spend so much time on college sports!

[u/Benchjc2004]

Shocked it also includes basketball.

[u/Svenray → u/Benchjc2004]

They didn't want Shaq and Charles coming back to settle their rivalry.

[u/Jaqen-Atavuli → u/Svenray]

I am a hypocrite, because I wouldn't mind seeing that.

[u/Jdevers77 → u/Jaqen-Atavuli]

Me neither, but at the same time we know that wouldn’t really be a competitive advantage for either team other than recruiting haha.

[u/AFewForLeftyToo → u/Jdevers77]

Team? I’m expecting a 1v1.

[u/tore_a_bore_a → u/Benchjc2004]

Ah it explicitly says NBA / G-League / WNBA. So the overseas professional leagues are ok to grab college students from 

[u/Sir_Auron → u/tore_a_bore_a]

In fairness to the Euro players, for many of them if they want to play organized basketball beyond the age of 15 or so, it will happen in a "professional" league due to the academy system over there.

[u/BlazeBBQ → u/Sir_Auron]

For a more extreme example, Luka doncic was under contract at Real Madrid when he was 13 years old and played in the euroleague at 16

[u/Robbza → u/tore_a_bore_a]

To be fair as a European the entire structure of sports development comes from professional sports clubs youth teams. Legally they have to sign work contracts and be paid. Im not a basketball guy so If there are some European countries where this doesn't apply oops.

[u/Benchjc2004 → u/tore_a_bore_a]

There recent big win was RJ Lewis. He played in the G league.

[u/admiraltarkin → u/Benchjc2004]

Basket what?

[u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 → u/admiraltarkin]

ShootyHoops

[u/Vitamin_BK → u/admiraltarkin]

Don't worry, I can translate since that's my flair's best sport. He speaks of what you refer to as "shooty hoops"

[u/Highest_Koality → u/Vitamin_BK]

I think it's spelled "squeak, squeak, squeak"

[u/admiraltarkin → u/Vitamin_BK]

Jokes aside it's kind of crazy how bad A&M has been in squeeky floor historically at least relative to football. We usually have 1 really good team a decade in football, but we've never made an Elite 8

[u/DiplomaticAggie]

I know we’re often cynical on here, but it’s good to see this being pushed through quickly and cooler heads prevailing, for now at least

[u/taywil8 → u/DiplomaticAggie]

loosens grip on mustard bottle for now

[u/ticuxdvc → u/taywil8]

Can I borrow that for the 19th next month?

[u/2011StlCards → u/ticuxdvc]

Its fun to know that basically every CFB fan other than those in Baton Rouge and Starkville will be cheering for Ole Miss that day.

[u/RogueHippie → u/DiplomaticAggie]

This sub was already throwing a hissy fit that the SEC wasn't going to do it earlier today

[u/shiny_aegislash → u/RogueHippie]

There was a heavily upvoted post unironically saying the SEC would make a statement later today saying they encourage former-NFL players to join the conference lol

[u/OutlawJoseyWales → u/RogueHippie]

it literally does not matter what you say on here, if you say "SEC bad" you'll get upvoted. this sub would rather invent fantasies about the SEC/ESPN to get mad about and have a shower argument over, meanwhile basically rule change/playoff format change everyone's hated has been initiated by the big 10

[u/Juggerginge → u/DiplomaticAggie]

Pretty good to see it was a unanimous vote too

[u/WaltSneezy → u/DiplomaticAggie]

Definitely the silver lining for LSU pushing hard for this that it actually resulted in the conferences making rules against it with legitimate and legal right to do so in their own leagues and not the limp dick NCAA.

Hopefully this means conferences start doing damage control on some things the NCAA can't (which is everything). The problem with that is the conferences have to get over their power conflict to be willing to do anything that doesn't give them an advantage or puts another competitor enormously ahead. To their credit, they're in very fragile positions, even the Big 10 and SEC on being hesitant to make these decisions and rules within their leagues, so it's not like they're being greedy (for the most part)

[u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

All my homies hate Lane Kiffin, Will Wade, Kim Mulkey and Jeff Landry.

[u/brianqueso → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

What a murderers row of cuntacular coaches

[u/ChaseTheFalcon → u/brianqueso]

And governor

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/ChaseTheFalcon]

what is a governor but a coach of their citizens?

[u/YouThinkYouKnowStuff → u/brianqueso]

Dang you have a way with words.

[u/DtownBronx → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

Mulkey's "They can be ambassadors for peace" take is the most cruel approach anyone could take to someone with a parent active in the fighting. She is somehow making the rest of the shitheads look good in comparison

[u/StreetReporter → u/DtownBronx]

Say what you will about Will and Lane (they both suck), but at least they didn’t openly defend Art Briles

[u/lumpybarnacle27 → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

Nightmare blunt rotation

[u/theruins → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

This is a legitimately insane group of people

[u/ConnectSpring9 → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

All of us lobos hate Will Wade and LSU

[u/sirbrown22 → u/ConnectSpring9]

life aint great right now

[u/southmshavoc → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

TLDR: LSU bad

[u/Rolltide_and_anime]

Lane is crashing out in a LSU cheerleaders dorm room as we speak

[u/Money-Giraffe2521 → u/Rolltide_and_anime]

No, that’s Joey Freshwater.

[u/bawstothewall → u/Rolltide_and_anime]

Many people have asked why lane was never considered when saban retired. This is why lmao

[u/Financial_Island2353]

FUCK LANE KIFFIN 👏👏👏👏👏

[u/Alphaspade → u/Financial_Island2353]

ALSO FUCK WILL WADE 👏👏👏👏👏

[u/Diligent-Most-9165 → u/Alphaspade]

oh, and FUCK KIM MULKEY 👏👏👏👏👏(especially after how she ran off one of her own players)

[u/arrowfan624 → u/Alphaspade]

Ewwww

[u/SirMellencamp → u/Financial_Island2353]

and LSU!

[u/jthomas694 → u/SirMellencamp]

AND TENNESSEE TOO

[u/Financial_Island2353 → u/SirMellencamp]

AND TENNESSEE TOO

[u/JackedUpJonesy → u/Financial_Island2353]

Welcome to the club, brother

[u/PattyKane16]

Billable hours unanimous preseason AP #1

[u/__TeddyWestside__ → u/PattyKane16]

Would be undefeated if not for App State.

[u/MotorSevere4899]

RIP LSU basketball

[u/knowtoriusMAC → u/MotorSevere4899]

It would only be RJ Luis falling under this

[u/GoBlueAndOrange → u/knowtoriusMAC]

That's 1/5 of their team

[u/Geaux_1210 → u/MotorSevere4899]

It’s been in the grave for 6 years

[u/r0ugar0u_ → u/Geaux_1210]

Hah, fr. Oh no, we'll suck again....

[u/Geauxpack81 → u/Geaux_1210]

We have a basketball team?

[u/smurf-vett → u/MotorSevere4899]

Nah just the excuse they needed to bring over even more Russian players 

[u/Diligent-Most-9165 → u/smurf-vett]

insert Kim Mulkey doing the birdman meme

[u/Geaux_1210]

Good. You pushed the envelope and forced the issue Lane, now focus on getting our actual student athletes ready to win.

[u/radehart]

Good, at best this was disrespectful to college athletes.

[u/largelawattorney]

Adam Schefter is about to cry because he can’t tweet about it anymore

[u/orc0909]

I think the SEC did it like this specifically to soft punish LSU

[u/Nacho_cheese_guapo → u/orc0909]

Based

[u/rburp → u/Nacho_cheese_guapo]

I've always liked that ol boy Sankey

[u/Redditor_exe]

I’m eagerly waiting to hear Kiffin’s response to this

[u/Ender_Stark → u/Redditor_exe]

"I thought this was America!"

[u/pasqua3]

Lmfao couldn't happen to a better group of coaches

[u/jbvann05 → u/pasqua3]

Are Lane Kiffin Will Wade and Kim Mulkey the worst trio of leaders in history?

[u/Rebelrenegade24]

Holy shit they actually did it

[u/Rich1926]

Does this mean the players on their way to LSU now cannot play? or is this "after these guys no one else can"?

[u/southmshavoc]

Does this actually mean anything? Will some random judge end up nullfying this?

[u/rhymeswithtag → u/southmshavoc]

ask texas tech what happened when their own conference set up specific by-laws against soresby and TTU still tried to fight it

[u/GoBlu323 → u/southmshavoc]

No. This is the conferences making rules for their members, this isn’t an anti trust issues since no one conference is a monopoly

[u/rkennedy991]

So what happens to the two guys that just joined LSU from the NFL?

[u/Serallas → u/rkennedy991]

They havent officially signed yet I think, so they out

[u/tropic_gnome_hunter → u/rkennedy991]

They need to learn UFLese

[u/Crafty_Substance_954 → u/rkennedy991]

Sucks to be them, get ready for the UFL

[u/NastyWideOuts]

Incoming “Louisiana judge says SEC can’t do that”

[u/GoBlu323 → u/NastyWideOuts]

The SEC isn’t the ncaa, courts won’t stop this

[u/hangman_Pop_1127]

I want to thank LSU for being the talk of the town right now.

[u/CoolMullets7]

I know this isn't a basketball board, but I think that takes LSU down to like 3 players on their MBB roster 

[u/Alphaspade → u/CoolMullets7]

Hey you can come pretty close to winning basketball games with just 3 players!

Granted only if one of them is Colin Sexton

[u/Revolutionary_Jump_9 → u/Alphaspade]

One of my favorite Bama basketball moments

[u/StreetReporter → u/CoolMullets7]

RJ Luis even being considered was insane, he went pro after his junior year in 24-25 and was a pro last year

Him being declared eligible was just corruption at its finest

[u/SirMellencamp]

Can we go back to yesterday when this place was outraged that the SEC only made a statement?

[u/schneeeebly]

Good :)

[u/bullnamedbodacious]

Lane Kiffin looks like a bigger doofus every day

[u/weirdbutinagoodway → u/bullnamedbodacious]

It's actually rather impressive.

[u/_jt33_]

Overdue, but good. Get these losers out of college sports.

[u/check8rs]

W

[u/Perfect_Loss_5156]

Cool.

[u/Corona2789]

This is a total shit show and I’m here for it

[u/LiveFromFLORIDA]

Billable Hours going for a season high

[u/huckleberry420]

It was definitely the right thing to do. Just can't have that. More should be done.

[u/RoastedDonutz]

Lane Kiffin in shambles right now

[u/AllTimeTy]

Where all the SEC haters saying “the SEC won’t do nothing hurr durr 🤤”?

[u/SirMellencamp → u/AllTimeTy]

They forgot they even posted it.

[u/Bulky-Whole-7498]

Remember when the SEC made a statement last night, obviously setting the stage for an official rule to be made, and this sub freaked out and preemptively tried to dunk on the SEC?

lol.

[u/poopballs]

Lane Kiffin just fell to his knees in a Canes

[u/FaithHopeLove821]

Good. If you flunk out of the NFL, play spring ball or get a job.