r/DeadlockTheGame • u/Axis251 • Feb 24 '26

Discussion A tweet that has me thinking.

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I don’t know if Riot can copy what valve has created with Deadlock. The atmosphere and setting so what I think makes deadlock so enjoyable. Yes the gameplay is amazing and the moba aspects are great but I just don’t think riot will even try to copy valve and make a deadlock clone. What is all y’all’s thoughts.

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u/UberActivist Feb 24 '26

And the Riot Deadlock Clone will have rectal verification to prevent cheating.

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u/pokealm Feb 24 '26

mfw my anal beads for cheating 99% accuracy got caught

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u/real_roal Feb 24 '26

Biggest turn off for riot games. I dont understand how people i know can play valorant and feel ok having that vanguard shit on their pc.

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u/FlyingCouch Venator Feb 24 '26

Because in 6 years of playing Val I've red screened/had an RR refund less than 10 times whereas CS had cheaters in every 3rd game and I'm told that's pretty good for CS

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u/1outOforder1 Vindicta Feb 25 '26

Thank you, so many fucking games use kernel level at this point without people knowing and using Windows inherently isn’t secure. It’s so weird I keep seeing people shit on Riot specifically for it. It’s not really my favorite game but I’ve seen one cheater in Valorant and I’ve played since beta, CS is just a totally different story and it’s inexcusable. At least you can consistently have fun with one of the games

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u/Pure_Cloud4305 Feb 24 '26

Probably because they played counterstrike and dealt with a fuck ton of cheaters

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u/Apprehenssved424f Feb 24 '26

you are already using windows, vanguard really isnt making things much worse.

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u/controlledwithcheese Feb 25 '26

100% they are also playing cod or marvel rivals or genshin or whatever the fuck that also has a kernel level anti-cheat but in a lowkey way

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u/real_roal Feb 25 '26

Can you show evidence marvel rivals uses kernel level?

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u/zzazzzz Feb 25 '26

yes, open the game and go to your task manager, then go to services. you will find neacsafe.sys

this is neteases kernel driver

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u/crazyshark111 Feb 24 '26

because it works and the fearmongering is equivalent to tinfoil hat theories

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u/Ok-Ring-5937 Shiv Feb 25 '26

Excuse? Maybe people are upset about kernel level anti cheats, because they are compulsory rootkits that open up a Pandora's box of attack surfaces?

A developer misconfiguration could bring the whole system down (CrowdStrike wasn't exactly caused by an anticheat, but it was essentially a security product that verified integrity in a way much alike) or cause disk corruption due to KLAC's hooking into I/O system calls. The same anticheats could be gathering any information about your system, and sending them off, and you would never know because this traffic wouldn't ever show up on userspace apps like Task Manager.

Genshin's anticheat driver was already used in at least two large scale attacks. The afflicted machines didn't even had to have the game installed; the attackers just distributed the signed driver that the system had no problem loading, and made it collect data and trigger ransomware payloads. If, without altering the code inside kernel space at all, this kind of action was possible, HoyoLab could easily pull off stuff just as unsettling. And you will never ever know until the paranoid security researchers figure it out.

And the best part is, cheaters had a way of bypassing them for a long, long time now, so you're essentially handing your PC over to a third party for full control just to play an online game that would still have cheaters in it.

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u/PastPalpitationCry Feb 25 '26

then why does cs2 have more cheaters than valorant

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u/Ok-Ring-5937 Shiv Feb 25 '26

Because KLAC raise the bar for entry to cheating?

They just aren't as efficient at keeping out cheaters as some developers would like you to believe, and have a slew of aforementioned issues that, to a lot of people outweigh any benefits to their inclusion.

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u/HAWmaro Lash Feb 25 '26

But that will take away a lot of the gooners off deadlock!!!?!!!... good.

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u/Hunkyy Feb 25 '26

And the game will be dead on arrival.

I will not be taking out my lovense size L vibrating buttplug just to use some chinese anti cheat anal beads.