r/SipsTea • u/ExactlySorta • 6h ago
Chugging tea REPORTER: “Trump’s popularity is very low, diesel prices are very high, the war he started isn’t going well… is he using you as a scapegoat for his own problems?” ZELENSKY: ...
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u/Khalitz 5h ago
I remember somewhere a post by a Ukrainian American citizen saying they regretted voting for Trump because they thought he could end the war in Ukraine. This was a few years ago, I wonder how much more regret they have now.
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u/Kevadu 5h ago
Why on earth did they believe that...
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u/Crafty-Help-4633 5h ago
Because he said he would and that's all MAGA needs. They don't need facts or information. They believed it because they're in a cult.
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u/mind_mischief_89 4h ago
Democrat politicians need to just start lying to R voters then, since they are so gullible
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 4h ago
No because then all of a sudden Fox and other media outlets will get very good at exposing lies and showing receipts.
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u/vi_sucks 3h ago
This is what i've been saying.
The problem is that the Democrats kinda built the party around being sensible and honest, so they don't really have that dirty tricks machinery any more.
What we need is for some dark art magician to start up a fake MAGA PAC, soak up a bunch of donations and then spend it all on Democrats. These people are just begging to get their pockets ran. And it would work both ways, first by taking their money and putting it to good use, and second by making them suspicious of other MAGA grifters.
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u/totalkpolitics 1h ago
The issue to me is...that normal people who have real concerns are being manipulated by algorithms and mis/disinformation. They fall into a cycle where they are told one thing, but it's not true. By the time they fully understand what they were told and the truth, it's too late.
It's much like the concept of a lie on social media spreading far and wide before the truth comes out, but the truth always fails to reach the same people. So people are left believing a lie.
We need some goddamn laws to prevent this bullshit from causing unfounded support for con artists. A bill that requires truth or causes fines for regular people and HUGE fines for companies.
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u/Zunder_IT 4h ago
I will tell you more shocking news, some people believed that here in Ukraine too. Although the majority was laughing at that notion, knowing that NOTHING this man has ever done ever benefited anyone besides himself and his rich friends
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u/Crunchykroket 3h ago
I imagine it must have been pretty surprising for Ukraine which countries turned out to be big allies and which ones big disappointments.
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u/boatson25 3h ago
Trump claimed that he would end the war in Ukraine in 48 hours once elected. It’s been two years and not only are they still fighting but he’s started another war (that he hasn’t won either)
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u/DirtyRoller 2h ago
I live in Minnesota, and I remember a lot of Somalis vocally supporting Trump before the last election. Why you ask? Homophobia.
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u/dennis77 4h ago
I know a few people like that, they still think that Trump is trying to help Ukraine by doing these stupid things. However, there are less than 1 percent of Ukrainian US citizens I know that share the same mentality. Which is good
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u/Cannibal_House69 5h ago
Funny how Donny has to yell bullshit on a daily basis, and Zelensky, like Carney in Canada, only needs a simple smile to negate Donny's tirade if lies and bullying.
Blow up those oil refineries Ukraine, the war with Russia is a win now over the USA.
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u/phuk-yeah 5h ago
Trump is a disgrace to America
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u/VerySuperGenius 56m ago
The modern Republican party is nothing but capitulating profiteers and useful idiots. Everybody in the world can see through everything that MAGA cannot.
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u/braumbles 6h ago
Americans failed him and failed Ukraine and by extension Europe by reelecting a Russian asset as President. It was quite obvious who he was subservient to in 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020, but Americans were like, who cares if I say America first, let's make Russia great again! So here we are.
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u/GraXXoR 6h ago
Remember that 1/3 of america thinks he is an alpha male and a role model to their children. half of which are girls.
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u/iSleepInJs 5h ago
It should be noted that it is 1/3 of Americans who respond to a satisfaction survey and not actually 1/3 of America. I personally have never responded to a survey of this nature and don’t know that I know anyone who would waste their time with it.
Unless you’re referring to votes which wouldn’t be representative of today either, and (depressingly) probably isn’t representative of the majority of Americans at that time because .
I’m not saying this to excuse anyone or to try and invoke empathy for those who voted for and/or did/do approve of this garbage but just simply pointing out that statistics should be taken with an appropriately sized grain of salt.15
u/hokuten04 5h ago
It doesn't matter since the US re-elected him, even after the disaster of his first term, his attempted coup, him taking home classified documents, his pedophilia etc... most of americans still looked at that piece of garbage and said "yes that's my president right there"
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u/JosefGremlin 5h ago
77 million Americans voted for this chump as opposed to 75 million Americans who voted for the other Party. It was no mystery how he was going to behave, so it's easy to assume that more than half of America approves and encourages his behaviour.
You may want it to be an anomaly, but this is exactly what the majority of voting Americans want. This is not an aberration, this is what America truly is.
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u/Original-Body-5794 5h ago
Keep in mind turnout was like 64%, a third of america looked at this either didn't care enough or thought "Heh I see no difference".
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u/JosefGremlin 4h ago
An insane thought when the first term included human rights abuses through child confiscation, a white supremacist rally, hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths from Covid, a culture so insistent on refusing to acknowledge mistakes that they held a press conference at the Four Seasons Landscaping company, and an attempted insurrection.
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u/Integer_Domain 3h ago
People don't know. Many people actively take steps to avoid hearing or seeing anything about politics or the news.
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u/No_Rip4646 5h ago
He did win the election but more votes were cast for a candidate not named Donald Trump.
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u/iSleepInJs 5h ago
Look, you’re misinterpreting my point. 162m is 49.09% of America. There is a conversation to be had about voting here, but it’s good to keep in mind that increasing amounts of voter suppression is occurring in the name of security when having it.
I didn’t say it was an anomaly, though perhaps I do wish it was one. It’s certainly a movement but one that is increasingly losing momentum. Even still I hear enough support to understand it’s not an anomaly, but I don’t hear enough to say that it is what “America truly is.”
Perhaps I’m being optimistic overall but my only point is that the stated third of America is based of satisfaction surveys. I’ve never filled out a survey and I can’t think of many people that I know who would. Furthermore if that survey is conducted online, who’s to say there’s no bots responding?
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u/APaltrySum 5h ago
Why do Americans keep talking about voting numbers? The fact is, he is your president and represents you on the world stage whether you like it or not. His and your country's actions don't get excused because not everyone supports him. He's not only affecting the world as a whole, but he's fucking up your country, too. It has gone too far. If the checks and balances aren't working to remove him due to his blatantly illegal (and apparently un-American according to you) actions, then it is up to the people to do it.
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u/Stacys__Mom_ 4h ago
There are serious anomalies in the voting count tabulation data in the 2024 election, and there was unprecedented interference leading up to election day and on the day itself.
Many of us [Americans] do not believe that 77M people actually voted for him.
I travel frequently throughout the country for work, and I am often in "conservative" (Republican) spaces, so this isn't 'liberal echo chamber' stuff. There are variances by region, but based on hundreds of conversations I've had with Americans over the last 2 years, Trump supporters make up about 1 out of 7 adults, so about 14.2%. (and honestly, that's being generous.)
I would also say the majority of people here are really angry. Media/social media is not showing the millions of people protesting, people being abducted, detained and shot for showing dissent. All of this is being suppressed: they want you to think Americans support this administration/don't care, but that is a false narrative. They are trying to remove support from our allies so we are isolated and easier to control.
Please don't believe everything the media/sm shows you, the billionaires own the media, ALL OF IT.
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u/KrazyDrayz 2h ago
That's not how statistics work. If you have enough people, it's enough with a 2% margin of error. It doesn't matter if they didn't ask you specifically. That's how polls work.
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u/BioDriver 45m ago
And over 1/3 sat out because they couldn’t choose between that and a black woman. We are so fucking cooked as a country
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u/PhamilyTrickster 6h ago
Over 30 people went to jail his first term for colluding with Russia. The only reason he didn't was a weak ass DOJ
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u/SoonerEsq 4h ago
It's because he obstructed justice to the point that they couldn't criminally connect him to it. The entire second half of the Mueller Report covers it.
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u/trivo8888 6h ago
I would argue Elon and crew stole it with money. Elections here are decided by money sadly.
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u/Pdiddily710 5h ago
The amount of $ spent (and wasted) on elections in the US is obscene!
I saw a post the other day that more money has been spent on attack ads on Talarico than was spent on the ENTIRE last general election in the UK. It was like $89 million vs like 78 million.
Considering only 1 candidate can win, more than 50% of the billions spent each election is on losing candidates, so a total waste…then if u add the legalized bribery called lobbying once the winners are announced billions more gets dumped in.
SCOTUS totally fucked the country with Citizens United, and it will never recover.
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u/nadiayorc 2h ago edited 2h ago
In the UK each party has a very strict spending limit per election that's enforced by the electoral commision (a fully independent agency that regulates elections among some other things)
it's a bit complicated how the limit is calculated by party but currently it's either just under £1.5 million total (for England, Scotland and Wales has much less), or just over £50,000 x the number of seats they are contesting, whichever is larger
for the major parties it would be something like just under £30 million (about $40m USD) per election if they were contesting every seat in England (you can add on a few more million if they are also contesting seats in Scotland and Wales, which the major parties normally do), and that's the maximum legal limit, they may not necessarily always spend the maximum
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u/Original-Body-5794 5h ago
Elon and co had massive influence I don't disagree, but at the end of they day PEOPLE vote. A third of the voting population thought trump in 2024 was a good choice, and another third didn't care enough to vote against him. It's not like there was much thinking to do, the events of J6 alone should be enough to make you not want to vote for him.
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u/Top_Flight2 5h ago
The way people have behaved and fallen in line since he returned makes me think there's something in the water here and more people wanted this than they admit. People want familiarity here now even if the familiar is awful. Like an abused spouse. The world is changing fast and this was a retreat to what they hoped would be something they knew. But like a spouse returning to an abuser, it's always nightmarishly worse when they return.
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u/ViolenceAdvocator 6h ago
I doubt we elected him. The tech billionaires cheated for him and then sent Elon with his DOGE team in to delete the evidence.
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u/Boknowsbane 5h ago
I think Elon got him elected so they let Elon do whatever the hell he wanted to with government info and money. It was an agreement.
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u/dr-satan85 5h ago
The US is a bigger enemy to the eu than China and a bigger threat than Russia. The eu and Europe needs to get its shit together, because it's only a matter of time before the states turns on us big time.
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u/onoz9 4h ago
This is what American govt is these days. A laughing stock for the whole world. Elected by the people btw.
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u/Stacys__Mom_ 4h ago
We the People [of America] disagree.
Not about the laughing stock - we surely are that. 😞
But the "elected by the people" part - many of us do not believe this is true.
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u/europeanputin 4h ago
Isn't that why the whole idea about gun freedom exists in America?
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u/Lebor 3h ago
yeah, you disagree but what you can do about it?
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u/_BlackDove 2h ago
Enough of us know what we can do, but not enough seem to want to.
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u/icreatedfire 2h ago
plenty want to, but it’s hard to simultaneously organize over such a geographically vast area while avoiding the extensive corporate and government surveillance we live under
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u/NaturalAlfalfa 2h ago
God, Americans just cannot accept responsibility for anything can they? They can't accept that someone like Donald Trump is exactly what the rest of the world expected them to elect eventually
He perfectly encapsulates the United states. Arrogant, rude, bloated, aggressive, ignorant, avaricious, thin skinned and vain.
The mental gymnastics of everything from " well not all of us voted for him" to " the election must have been stolen" to " oh well he's obviously a Russian agent" to " just have to get through two more years and things will go back to "normal" "
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u/Jargonicles 4h ago
Go on...
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u/Gh0st_Pirate_LeChuck 3h ago
Our presidents aren’t elected by popular vote which we need to fix asap. The electoral college needs to be abolished. Red states with few people have WAY too much say.
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u/Agitated_Pin2498 3h ago
america govt has been laughing stock forever. the myth of camelot is just a myth
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u/Specific-Garlic-2495 4h ago edited 1h ago
Zelensky's ' answer ' tells you everything you need to know about Trump.
Zelensky has been strongly urged in private by European leaders to be very careful in showing your feelings against Trump.
And that message is clear...Trump is a tantrum throwing, toys out the pram infant.
That's how world leaders deal with America today.
Tiptoe around their infantile stupidity and childishness.
Stand in his court, flatter him, present shiny objects, preferably golden, tickle the fuckers chin.
This is America, where the world has to advise that speaking to them means using language of the puerile, the fragile child.
And it is beyond pathetic
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u/sepltbadwy 2h ago
Yeah Z’s a legend for always handling this with diplomacy. As he said, they even committed to the ceasefire they had not been told about, just to not embarrass the US. Which Russia broke immediately, and then Trump dropped sanctions AND bought their diesel.
Quite how Z handles all this with respect and integrity while at war is a symbol to us all, and most of all American voters.
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u/SurvivingSpartan 5h ago
Fuck Trump and his administration.
Donate to Ukrainian Air Defence so they can save lives:
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u/Impossible_Stock8885 5h ago
I'm broke but I'll drop 100, smh didn't even vote for Trump and I have to pay for it, lame af really
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u/TALKTOME0701 4h ago
To have a president like Zelensky! Wow
Instead we're "led" by a "man" who partners with Russia to pummel these brave souls.
Ukraine for the win. Please God
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u/akiv3 4h ago
Dear beloved Americans. You are not angry enough.
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u/Stacys__Mom_ 3h ago
Dear rest of the world,
Please know you are being shown a sanitized picture of what is happening within the U.S. and people are very angry.
The administration has declared us terrorists and we are being abducted, detained, imprisoned, and shot/killed for dissent. Protesters are not being arrested like the 1960's, they are being silenced.
Also remember if we lose our jobs here, we lose our healthcare. The majority of us oppose all of this, and we are not just going along; we are doing the best we can while they continue to steal our wealth, our land, our data, and drain our resources.
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u/Moonrhix 2h ago
And we are TIRED. We are DRAINED. Nevertheless, we continue. Don't believe their lies.
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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 2h ago
Oh, this Texan is incredibly angry. I have pushed everyone in my life short of violence to see the truth and help me end this nightmare.
I'm fuckin trying y'all.
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u/Plump_sourcreamglaze 5h ago
People forget that Zelensky is a professional comedian so leave it to him to absolutely read the room and answer in the most hilarious way possible. No words needed 🙌🏻 lol
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u/Successful-Title5403 4h ago
The alternative is to go on rant for 30 minutes about how fucking stupid the whole situation is... or just nod because everyone is thinking the same thing.
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u/gods_Lazy_Eye 3h ago
This man has aged so much in so short a time. I have profound respect for him and all it’s taken from him to help keep his people free.
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u/Flip_Flurpington 5h ago
This isn't a metaphysical debate. It's an economic one.
Which infuriates me, why do we have to sacrifice people for money?
EVER?
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u/Hatorate90 5h ago
The 1 procent is not sacrificing
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u/Flip_Flurpington 5h ago
Because it doesn't touch them, and if it doesn't mess with their own sphere of influence then there is no skin in the game. What i mean is, there are no consequences.
There needs to be consequences, it's literally one of the first things we teach a child.9
u/AccomplishedAct5364 5h ago
First time dealing with Americans?
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u/Flip_Flurpington 5h ago
In no way shape or form.
But this isn't just a yank thing.
Just another version of us vs them, unfortunately it's their greed that separates us from them. That or fear, we are a simple species.
But in this case it's greed and Trump and Co. have no fucking idea otherwise. If only they understood what they are sacrificing for wealth. They could of been venerated, valued beyond anyone before quite frankly, but instead they chose personal wealth, which is now a target that they will fear will be taken away from them.Good, it deserves to be taken away.
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u/Cycle-Path-401 3h ago
America murders for profit. It always has. From the 1600's to today.
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u/TopProfessional8023 2h ago
Yes. Europe NEVER did that. 🙄
I despise what my country does internationally but this modern European idea that your hands are clean is absolutely ridiculous.
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u/x_xwolf 3h ago
Fascist do fascism for the love of it. They are sadists, thats why they aren’t economists. They were never going to build anything. They just pay to advertise acceptable destruction of life and liberty.
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u/HuskyHuska 5h ago
Have you met any American ever?
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u/Fuckthegopers 4h ago
Republican voter*
That's who you're looking for, not just Americans.
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u/Agitated_Pin2498 4h ago
Im not sure dude, ask why the US has been starting so many wars and killing millions every 2nd decade since 1945...
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u/Blue_Waffle_Brunch 3h ago
1945? Man, I got some bad news for you about the preceding 150 years.
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u/ihavea_purplenurple 36m ago
It’s because the rich want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to it seems like you have to sell away your soul bit by bit to accumulate a large amount of wealth (I wouldn’t know) but they don’t want to be social pariah’s on the day-to-day. It’s a lot easier to hide behind corporations to get your hands dirty, and then clean your hands of how you made that money when you go home. I couldn’t imagine working for an insurance company without yelling at a manager or something
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u/renacotor 3h ago
A class act answer to an enormously petty situation. Saying nothing will only make those sort of situations resolve themselves, as the petty feelings need to prey on something else.
There are going to be a mountain of books, movies, documentaries, and so much more written about that man. A comedian turned diplomat, turned president, turned wartime president, turned household name.
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u/Mediogris 5h ago
What a classy and smart response. Enough for everybody to understand, but not enough to make controversial headlines.
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u/IL1keBigButts 6h ago
Americans have no honor.
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u/bradland 5h ago edited 3h ago
As an American, I feel the only honorable choice is to accept valid criticism. So while I’m deeply unhappy that we are viewed this way, I must accept that we reap what we sow. I’m committed to changing the course of our country, no matter what it takes.
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u/IL1keBigButts 5h ago
That, and vote him out in november.
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u/bradland 3h ago
He’s not technically on the ballot because mid-term elections refers to mid-presidential-term, but certainly among loss would send a clear message to him and those aligned with him.
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u/SlomoLowLow 5h ago
Apparently the Russian bot farms are back online looking at all the replies. This “uniquely american” problem is quickly becoming a global problem.
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u/uiucthrowaway420 1h ago
It's really the effects of social media, disinformation, lack of trust, tribalism, two party system that got us here. The more extreme your candidate the more likely you can pull fringe votes, and it's really easy to get a group of easily influenced people to vote for you if you promise to solve their issues.
This is a trend happening across the world, it's not unique to the US but US is vulnerable due to its two party system. There is an increasing dissatisfaction with wealth inequality and quality of life and the incumbent party is always blamed for it.
It's extremely likely Republicans will get swept out of office these midterms and Trump will lose majority of his executive power to Democrats losing house and senate. Mostly cause the economy is shit and this time there is an obvious person and party to blame. If there is any silver lining the coalition of the crazy Republican vote is dead for a long time cause they absolutely fucked their voter base with gas prices and even any idiot knows. Maybe we can have a string of normal politicians now.
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u/D3ADK00L 5h ago
"we both know the answer, so let's not hurt its little ego."... Is what he just said...
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u/Stunning_Ad_5960 4h ago
When a president of a country being attacked feels to be in better situation than the strongest president in the world.
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u/Fabulous_Log844 6h ago
Every fucking day… Something new and embarrassing from YAM TITS. Every day. And those they can't see it think that we have some kind of syndrome. It is fascinating.
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u/NTDLS 5h ago
Did you just call the wretched orange fuck “yam tits”? 😂😂
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u/davisjryoung 5h ago
You can see it in his face that Zelenskyy is just as sick of talking about Trump as we are
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u/ilikebaraymammay 6h ago
Americans threw the vietnamese under the bus, they threw the afghans under the bus and now its the Ukrainians. Why are people surprised? It's nothing new for America, grease the right wheels and you can get anything in washington, it's just very blatant now
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u/Acrobatic-Bike-2507 5h ago
The US government is owned by Russian and Israel interests, mostly working within conservatives political system.
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u/ImTooSaxy 2h ago
What an amazingly shitty position we have put all of our allies in. Making them have to suck up to an ego maniacal pedophile and rapist.
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u/ParadigmeSLP 5h ago
This guy is one of the toughest mf I've seen in a long long time! I'm sorry for him and I'm sorry for his country! He was sold for a few tons of diesel! This is trump's value not Zelensky.
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u/stardustViiiii 4h ago
Guys like Trump take all the credit, but when things aren't going to plan throw others under the bus instead of owning up to it
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u/ColdFusion363 6h ago
MAGA loves comrade Krasnov. It doesn’t matter if he wants to make Russia great again.
Just as long as he point fingers, blames the opposition and scapegoats a bunch of poor Mexicans!
HAMMER AND SIC….erm I mean STARS AND STRIPS!!!
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u/Worduptothebirdup 3h ago
Hey Ukraine, Y’all got any more of those cyber and drone attacks on Russian backed data centers???
We will be voting for consequences for enemies of the USA!!! May the agents of foreign countries hostile to our freedoms fall!
🇺🇸 🇺🇦
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u/blandonThrow 2h ago
He knows he can't say anything because he's being propped up by US, Israel, and "the West"
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u/PloppyPants9000 2h ago
I can't wait to vote for a real president who supports Ukraine in their existential struggle against russia.
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u/AskPizza 1h ago
The problem with our society is people scream lies angrily, as loud as possible, and other people don't even say the truth, they just think it and smart people know, and smile, and laugh.
Lies have become so normalized, it's shameful to speak the truth.
Let's reverse that. put only criminals in prison, for a change, and stop giving liars free air time to spew hate and ignorance and filth and lies.
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u/ChartreuseWizard311 1h ago
He's far from perfect, but can you imagine where this country would be if we had a president like Zelensky?
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u/asnbud01 49m ago
Hate reporters who are asshats. Before you jump on me, how would anyone liked it if a particularly bad Fox reporter asked that about Joe Biden or whomever? It’s a political ambush question asked in bad faith and that actually is not a reporter’s job.
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u/G-Fox1990 19m ago
Just shows that yes, we are all just laughing at the US right now. We all know we just have to survive these couple years until that fat orangutan is finally gone.
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