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u/scifijunkie3 3d ago
I will never EVER eat at any restaurant where the owner is so cheap and treats his or her employees so shitty that they won't pay them a decent, living wage and try to guilt trip me into compensating their bad business habits. Fuck them. I tip well when it is deserved but I'll be damned if I'm going to be forced into it.
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u/Butt-Hole-Cancer-Dr 3d ago
The reason why they put up these signs is that if the server doesn’t make enough tips to meet that areas’ minimum wage requirements, they are legally required to make up the difference. They don’t give a shit about their employees, they just refuse to raise their prices to pay a minimum wage.
Best way to fuck them is to eat there and not tip
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u/Odd-Consequence-2519 3d ago
If you think it's my responsibility to pay your server $45 for an hour's work I will be dining elsewhere.
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u/ThornyGarlic 3d ago
25% is insane. This is the one thing about American culture I hate the most. If you don't tip or tip less, you get frowned upon and/or shamed for it. Pay your damn servers instead of telling the customers to pay your employees' salary.
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u/symb015X 3d ago
Why the fuck am I supposed to pay for the food AND then surprise also add your staff salary onto the same bill at the end? Just price things what they actually cost, and pay people what the job is worth. And oh if I feel so inclined to give someone a little extra for being awesome, that’s entirely between us and should not be part of the food cost or taxes whatsoever
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u/CaliKindalife 3d ago
How about pay your employees instead of having demanding your customers pay them. WTF
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u/Color_of_Time 3d ago
Wow. The hostility towards customers is off the charts. I'm actually a generous tipper, but would never eat at a place that berates me before I even sit down.
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u/Excellent-Bite196 3d ago
Minimum wage is currently $26.44 an hour in Australia. Tipping still happens here but it’s not expected and is usually only when it’s a large table or service was particularly exceptional in my experience.
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u/Complete-Tangelo1532 3d ago
Federal Minimum wage in the US is $7.25/hr. We haven't had a Minimum Wage increase in almost 20 years iirc, and back then it was only $5.15/hr
We also generally don't have good workers protections if you are in one of those minimum wage positions, some states have employee rights, and some barely have any at all
The whole system is made around keeping us dependent on their low pay, a fair chunk of us cannot afford to miss a single paycheck. Some cant afford to get sick and miss a single day of pay, and if we get sick it could cost you a year or more of income depending on the situations
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u/kikyossoles 3d ago
Its an american thing.
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u/DarthRedit 3d ago
This image is fake and has been posted repeatedly for the last couple of months.
Do better.
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u/kikyossoles 3d ago
Ok? Im not on reddit 24/7 and wash my ass regularly. You should try it, youd be a lot less cranky, underpaid american
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u/Commercial_Fox5549 3d ago
You shouldn’t have to be on Reddit 24/7 to realize that there is no way an actual restaurant would put up a sign like this.
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u/balirosa 3d ago
Exactly it’s just rage bait. Tips are not 25% anywhere in the world and tipping is all over the world not just America.
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u/green_is_minty 3d ago
2 $ per hour compared to 15 € per hour in europe.. is america third world ? lol
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u/TheRealGageEndal 3d ago
We certainly aren't the greatest country in the world anymore. Even we don't believe that hype.
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u/TheSubduedDude 2d ago
That reminds me of that bit by comic Doug Stanhope. He says that stating America is the greatest country in the world is a kin to saying that America is the prettiest Denny’s waitress.
The United States is a wonderful country, but it seems like our political class are hell bent on ruining it. She has been going downhill since the 60s and has rapidly picked up the pace of its decline in recent decades.
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u/MoonsugarRush 3d ago
They're calling me "cheap" at the door while they pay their own staff $2.13 an hour? 100% would never eat here.
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u/ProtocolDroid10014 3d ago
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
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u/Apophistry 3d ago edited 3d ago
Apparently, you don't pay your staff at all, as you are adding your staff's salary to the customer's bill. So, you apparently expect your customers to foot the entire bill.
Also, seriously, 2-fucking-13 an hour? And you're posting that for all to see? And which you're evidently not even paying the staff? That's what's embarrassing. You should be both embarrassed and ashamed.
In closing, fuck you, fuck off and go fuck yourself. Thank you.
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u/ragoff 3d ago
Yes, servers in the US live on tips. Yes, it's polite in the US to tip. Yes, proprietors who exploit their servers and blame their customers for not picking up the slack are scum.
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u/BirdmanHuginn 3d ago
The federal government gives a tax credit to restaurant owners to report tips. Both the servers AND the owners are assholes in almost every situation, so says back of the house.
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u/TransitionAway9840 3d ago
If they work so damn hard then you fucking pay them a living wage you cheap fuck. It's not our job to pay your workers. I'm so sick of this tipping culture and I waited tables for years and tip well because of it. This shit is getting out of fucking hand
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u/shotgunmoe 3d ago
Stuff like this is why I laugh when people say America is a first world country. It isn't. The only other country that shares a similar heavy tipping culture is Canada (shock).
Add stuff like the lack of proper heath care, homelessness, crime, etc. and it's pretty easy to read between the lines of what America actually is (it isn't first world either)
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u/Commercial_Fox5549 3d ago
There is no way that this is an actual sign in an actual restaurant.
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u/Any-History7095 3d ago
"Our people work damn hard. Show some respect." Also, "We pay them $2 an hour after charging the average table $165."
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u/No_Point904 3d ago
If you can't afford to tip, properly, you can't afford to dine here.....How about, If you can't afford to pay your people, you shouldn't open a restaurant.
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u/Moo_Gwai 3d ago
If anyone works in that establishment for $2.13/ph… They should look for a better paid job.
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u/Perfect_Antelope7343 3d ago
How cheap can you be, not paying your waiters reasonable salary but calling non tipping customers cheap?
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u/Edgewise24 3d ago
The irony of them calling someone else cheap or broke when they're the ones not paying their employees a decent wage.
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u/bugrugpub 3d ago
"DON'T BE CHEAP. IT'S EMBARRASSING" yep couldn't agree more, pay your staff asshole
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u/PerceptionCalm3642 2d ago
If you can't pay your employees a liveable wage...don't go into the restaurant business
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u/hectorer8910 3d ago
I would turn around and find someplace else to eat that doesn't seem to hate their customers.
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u/hudsoncress 3d ago
Not eating anywhere with a manifesto. Revolution in the streets. Dining in the sheets.
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u/Tuckfrumptearsponge 3d ago
lol naw if you don’t pay your staff why the fuck would I eat there?
Service based on potential pay gives me gas.
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u/Intelligent_Insect13 3d ago
Think the company should be embarrassed. That they even have the attitude to have this sign.
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u/Jason0865 3d ago
The fact that their salary is <10% of what they expect to be tipped is what gets me.
Are they my employees or yours?
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u/SoBadit_Hurts 3d ago
Is this AI? If not, I’d love to know how it worked out for the business.
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u/Reasonable-Cook-4728 3d ago
Screw your restaurant. 25% tip? I better have top notch service from beginning to end. Better yet, how about paying your staff a decent wage?
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u/WilliamT123123 2d ago
Typical shit wages for waiters in the lower states. And typical shit owner and manager that pays its employees terrible.
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u/marcuslattimore21 2d ago
Use some of that salary and pay your employees THAT ARE MAKING YOUR MONEY
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u/BrightAd8507 2d ago
Asshole, why don't you show respect for your hard working employees by paying decent wages, say $25 per hour. Then you can't steal those tips
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u/FLAM3Z89 3d ago
Go fuck yourself. If you can’t afford to pay $31 an hour for a living wage then you shouldn’t have a business.
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u/FreeSki83 3d ago
I wouldn’t give my business to a place with this type of tone towards their customers. It is not hospitable. It is rude. Provide good service, and I will tip well. I won’t tip to subsidize an owner’s exploitation of their staff
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u/ninja_rob1603 3d ago
Don’t post this without naming the spot so people can boycott it. Fuck restaurants and tip culture. Pay a living wage.
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u/R-Zade 3d ago
I don't know the technical meaning, but tip is supposed to be an encouraging gesture. These scum don't even have that basic sense.
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u/Whitemayne 3d ago
Signs like this are usually on businesses that quickly go out of business.
It's one thing to try and assert dignity for your employees, but there is no wage requirement to pay them a fraction of other employees and then insist the burden of running your business to the customer.
Honestly, people would be better off ensuring a no tip environment, paying staff a reasonable wage, and the people who are willing to work for normal wages (plus a little extra) and ensure that no tips are allowed for servers or anything else, actually enriches the environment of the workplace, and garners more long term respect in the community when you insist "I pay my people as best as I can, i don't make them fend for themselves on tips."
In japan for instance, if you try to tip someone, they get genuinely offended, as if they are so cheap and easy that they would be willing to work for an employer who wont pay them an honest wage. Tip someone in japan or in several other countries in the world and they look at you as if you see them like a bum on the street.
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u/Hopeful-Artichoke449 3d ago
Plate carriers thinking they deserve to make more than college educated nurses and teachers. GTFO
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u/AgreeableMeal672 3d ago
Tipping should go away and pay them what they deserve. If your restaurant can't do that and stay open then that's on you.
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u/nkbrkr53 3d ago
The restaurants can damn well pay servers an actual wage and not require tipping. Look up the reason why servers dont get minimum wage. There are pros and cons on both sides server/management.
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u/SubstantialBanana482 3d ago
Well I can guarantee you I won't be eating there. What a disgusting display to have in your business window. I wish them nothing but bankruptcy
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u/Head_Midnight666 3d ago
I don't go out to eat very often. I'm poor. I went to one place, paid a 25% tip before I was even served, and they didn't even bring us water. Also, $41.25 is a ridiculous amount of money IMO. A food server doesn't need to be making what a doctor does a hour.
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u/nope_a_dope237 3d ago
I’ve worked in the industry and valued my income from gratuity but this is bullshit.
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u/BojacksIdol 3d ago
you should not be expected to pay a server more than their own employer. i tip as well as i can because i believe it's the right thing to do, but i wouldn't have to if you paid your employees a living fucking wage
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u/curtissJ28 3d ago
I always tip 20% but I would just find someplace else to eat if I saw this sign.
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u/Sonicgott 3d ago
I’ve been working customer service for over 30 years, and this sign is egregious and arrogant. It’s not your customers’ job to subsidize living wages. That is the employer’s job.
I wouldn’t ever eat there. Yikes.
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u/InfiniteMonkeys157 3d ago
Don't be cheap. It's embarrassing. Self-own ftw.
How much must the staff love this owner. Yikes.
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u/hu_nk1990 3d ago
'we don't pay our staff to smile at you' don't think you pay your staff at all. 'Respect our staff' have they never heard of a hypocrite? The American logic is cooked
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u/hirakath 2d ago
If you can’t afford to pay your employees a decent living wage then you can’t afford to be running a business.
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u/Fickle-Raspberry6403 2d ago
Pay you employees. That's your obligation as the employer. The customer pays for service and goods thru the menu.
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u/nolongerbanned99 3d ago
The supreme irony is that the restaurant can legally pay its employees less than minimum wage because it expects customers to make up the difference, then shame and demean those same customers for not subsidizing its payroll. Imagine a business making its employees’ compensation the customer’s responsibility and then insulting potential customers for not cooperating. If your business model depends on customers voluntarily supplementing your employees’ wages, perhaps the problem isn’t the customers.
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u/crsaxby 3d ago
This, exactly. The biggest scam corporate America (and other Westernized countries) ever pulled was this BS: Transferring the duty of the employer to provide decent living wages on to the consumer.
It's practices like this that make socialism look like a viable option. This. Infuriates. Me.
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u/ExtensionMoose1863 3d ago
right, same chart but just move the 41.25 up to the salary line and then give the same total bill... why leave it to discretion and try and brow beat people into it vs. just bake it in and show it on the bill??
OOOOOOH, right... sorry, forgot. Tax Law. the answer is tax law
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u/2dameon10 2d ago edited 2d ago
How about pay your employees a living wage.
Seems like EVERYONE wants a tip nowadays.
Heres a tip. Get off your ass and gain more skills. Then you dont have to work a dead end job for a deadbeat boss.
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u/OneManSwarmOfDanger 3d ago
I turn around and walk away. I'll leave my tip with someone who doesn't ask for it.
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u/ProtocolDroid10014 3d ago
How about you not be cheap and pay your staff properly. Tipping is for extra service.
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u/rdmodsrtrsh 3d ago
If you can’t afford to pay living wages you can’t afford your business, don’t be cheap it’s embarrassing
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u/Efficient-Lack-9776 3d ago
This is ai rage bait. Not a real sign. And also tipping is broken, labor is broken.
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u/Burgerboy380 3d ago
Or just...pay minimum wage? Like id rather pay twenty bucks for a burger and not get guilt tripped into tipping.
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u/bomboclawt75 3d ago
Any company that pays their staff that "wage" should be instantly shut down and the owners arrested for not paying the minimum wage.
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u/GrandWizardOfCheese 3d ago
Pay your employees at least minimum wage.
Tipping should be illegal, as should wages that low,
$3.40 an hour is slave wages.
The owner of that establishment is vile.
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u/dbudzik 3d ago
Or you could, ya know, pay your employees a decent wage. Because they work damn hard. Kinda seems like paying them for their labor is the employer’s responsibility. If it’s so expensive, raise your prices and see how your restaurant does. If it goes out of business because you can’t afford to pay your employees, well, there you go.
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u/uwearclownshoes 3d ago
Admitting your employees should be paid more and inviting someone else to do it is a special sort of low.
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u/Spiritual-Bear9118 3d ago
Pay your staff yourself and they wouldn’t have to rely on tips. Like the billionth person to say this
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u/skibum247 3d ago
So I pay $40 and the other tables each pay 40$ so now the server just made $150 an hour.... Yeah no thanks. You arent worth that considering all you actually do is get me a drink and carry food. The cook does something but you as the server do very little.
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u/Comfortable_Gate_293 3d ago
I’m not sure I believe a restaurant would post a repellant message like this on their door. Especially one that doesn’t take in enough to pay a living wage.
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u/Aggravating-Delay792 3d ago
$2.16 an hour wtaf. It seems owners of places like that don't believe in giving their waiting staff a decent living wage, I mean is it really that difficult to do so.
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u/Kind_Fix7025 3d ago
F that BS, pay a living wage, that should be embarrassing to pay two bucks per hr. Greedy ahole
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u/margo1243 3d ago
The owner is DEMANDING tips from customers because he/she doesn’t want to pay his/her staff a normal salary??? And customers are disgusting if they don’t do what they don’t even have to if they don’t want to! My goodness! I won’t step a foot in a restaurant that dares to place such a DISGUSTING note on its door right in your face! Even if the cook is good I won’t go there. Also the staff is probably so overworked and underpaid that they just don’t have a smile in them and not because they are inherently gloomy people. Unbelievable! I hope the workers find a better place to work at and forget this restaurant as a nightmare!
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u/theheavynorth 3d ago
Proudly posting poverty wages and asking me to subsidize them is embarrassing. I'll happily take my generously tipping business somewhere else.
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u/Lou_Zealand 3d ago
Advertising how bad your fucking the people who support your business, but blaming it all on the other people who support your business.
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u/fozzyfozzburn 3d ago
How about you fucking pay people properly and factor it into the bill instead of treating customers like shit.
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u/alexanderbubble 3d ago
Not to mention this is some dumbass maths. Why is the $3.40 in salary being included in what the customer pays? If they’re going to be obnoxious, at least do it correctly.
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u/1111joey1111 3d ago
Pay your workers a living wage or go out of business. I would NEVER eat at that establishment.
It's the owner of that business who should feel embarrassed.
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u/lilbirdy3000 3d ago
Don’t start a restaurant if you can’t pay your employees. Tip culture is just a cop out for the owners. Maybe they should work for tips…
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u/ajqiz123 3d ago
You suck for paying servers/waiters $2.13/hr. That is next-level-of-hell-dog-shit-mean!
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u/zenos_dog 3d ago
The service charges will be deducted from the tip. Just put the price on the menu.
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u/Volcano_Lair 3d ago
Lol, cheap employers need to pay their employees more.
Don’t dine at places with cheap employers.
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u/StealingThird 3d ago
Pay your employees a living wage and then if they smile at me I will give them a tip but I’m not paying for your business.
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u/rbshevlin 3d ago
Maybe you should crack open that cobwebbed wallet you have and pay them more than $2.13/hr. Call US CHEAP!!????
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u/conspirator9 3d ago
Who’s the cheapskate? The patron who wants a date with his wife while paying a nanny $25hr plus $20 for valet parking which leave him with maybe 5-10 bucks left for tipping or the restaurant owner who would love to bring slavery back so he doesn’t need to pay his employees an embarrassing $2.13 x hr?
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u/Brokenspade1 3d ago
Add it to the price and pay them a living fucking wage. I know this is ragebait but there are plenty of business owners without the self awareness to understand that its not the customers job to pay the employee on the employers behalf.
And I'm saying that as somebody who worked for tips for most of his 20s. It's not a tip if it's forced like this it's extortion of your customers, by leveraging your underpaid workforce's "hard work", to avoid paying your employees.
It's literally guilting your customer base, to avoid raising your prices, and paying your employees.
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u/Leather-Chart7083 3d ago
Our people work damn hard (The sign that only has words and letters being made by AI)
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u/mplsandrew 3d ago
That audacity of posting this while paying $2.13 an hour is shameful.
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u/cosmobrown67 3d ago
If they were really that invested in the staff, they would pay them a living wage. Don’t dine there!
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u/Your_As_Stupid_As_Me 3d ago
$3.40 to bring a plate to someone and keep checking up on them....
But then you got door dash that pays alot more. Fuck that place.
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u/reddit3118 3d ago
I managed restaurants for over 20 years, I would applaud the sign if it addressed a mandatory gratuity but to double down on not paying servers a decent wage and expecting patrons to do it for them is wild. The lack of awareness is surely worth shaming the ownership. 2.13 isn’t mandatory nor is tipping.
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u/Lopsided_Block_6796 3d ago
You pay a little over 2 bucks an hour and expect the customers to make it up? You shouldn’t be in business