r/TeslaLounge • u/Live-Kiwi3977 • 1d ago
Tesla Roadster Would you choose this over a Ferrari
The Tesla Roadster ⚡🏎️
A glimpse of the future of electric performance cars.
Would you choose a Tesla Roadster or a Ferrari? And why?
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u/TelephoneTag2123 1d ago
Very cool but I do not want to be inside that car.
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u/burns_before_reading 1d ago
I don't know much about this other than the videos I've seen on Reddit, but I'm just assuming this version of the car will never actually be available to the general public with these features. I'll choose a Ferrari because they actually exist and are confirmed road legal.
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u/Armaced 1d ago
I was looking at the Tesla site and it looks like there are three variants:
* one for the road (street legal, two seater, has the suction to keep it glued to the road)
* one for the race track (still a two seater but adds the jets in the back)
* one that is just for stunts on private property (one seater, adds the stabilizers that make it fly or jump or whatever you prefer to call that).
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u/CactusSkies 1d ago
So the stunt car last night there was no human driver in it.
Did it have any fine print about people aren’t allowed to be in the cabin while it’s using those thrusters? My guess is as a stunt car no human will ever be in it when those things are operating.
And as I’m writing this as well, think about the G forces as it’s flipping around and stopping its flip like that. Too much of a liability to injure a human.
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u/noobystok 1d ago
Definitionally it can fly. Jump would be an improper descriptor for what the car is doing.
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u/DiscombobulatedBee0 1d ago
It won't be sustained flight. Those nozzles have a finite amount of highly pressurized gas.
System Specifications
- Storage Tanks: Two SpaceX-derived COPV tanks with a combined capacity of 600 liters (holding roughly 250 kg of compressed air). [1, 2]
- Nozzle Array: 10 active nozzles spread across the bodywork to manage multi-directional thrust vectoring (acceleration, braking, cornering, and mid-air stabilization). [1, 2]
- Refill Time: Using an external nitrogen station currently takes anywhere from two to six hours, though Tesla is targeting a track-side refill time of under 30 minutes. Standard on-board air compression takes longer due to the extreme pressures required. [1, 2]
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u/Nota_ReAlperson New to the sub 1d ago
So the Rutan Voyager doesn't fly, because it has a limited fuel capacity and eventually has to land?
Edit: Jumping means that the time in the air is uncontrolled and unpowered. The car is both controlled and capable of sustaining its altitude for as long as it has compressed air. So it is flying, if only briefly.
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u/Anthony12125 1d ago
Idk what you are trying to say. The car is FLYING and you are saying “it’s not sustained” and literally NOBODY is saying it is.
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u/Significant_Egg7771 New to the sub 1d ago
The flying car is currently invite only.
But anyone can reserve the one that can propel forward using the thrusters.
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u/kaynpayn 1d ago
On the presentation, Musk stated this is a car that will be available to the public, general people will be able to buy it. Do with that info what you will though, he's been known to bend the truth before. But it is on official record.
Tesla or a Ferrari? Dumb question at this point. There's no point in comparing different products, one is an accomplish product the other is a (very cool) tech demo. Lets see the roadster being road legal, what the specs of the car actually are and what restrictions come with that first. Only then there's grounds to compare properly.
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u/JackfruitFun8144 New to the sub 1d ago
You mean like how the Cyber Truck was going to be dent proof, have bullet proof windows and have a starting price of $39,900.
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u/Eastern-Ad-6242 New to the sub 1d ago
There are 3 trims available for preorder. The base trim has the suction, but no thrusters. The thruster trim has rear thrusters for acceleration. The rocket trim has the extra thrusters for flight. However, the rocket trim is by invite only, so they’ll be very limited and only if you’re special enough for them to let you. Which makes a lot of sense. They don’t want just anyone idiot to have one. It’s dangerous in the hands of someone irresponsible.
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u/Most-War3390 New to the sub 1d ago
Most people can get the thrust version but not the rocket version only a select few.
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u/gregsDDS New to the sub 1d ago
or anywhere near that car. There is a reason that there were no observers anywhere close to it. from a friend who works at Tesla: "We have to be very far for safety from the pressurize system"
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u/Ck101o123 New to the sub 1d ago
Why can't people just revel in the totally absurd awesomeness of this? It isn't meant to be "real world" It's about imagination, thinking like a kid, and having the financial juggernaut and sheer engineering might to create something so nonsensical. What did we actually "get" out of going to the moon in 1969, from a purely practical standpoint? Billions and billions of dollars spent simply to spark the imagination of mankind...what a fools errand. Not.
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u/cbalzer 23h ago
I acknowledge all of that. I am just sad knowing that we get no more useful cars. I have owned a model 3 for 6 years. I love it. Love. it. It’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned and it’s not even close. I just wish they had kept going. A decent SUV, a van, a truck. A decade ahead of everyone, with a war chest to make electric mainstream and amazing. What could have been… I would pay through the nose for a truck that looked and drove like a Rivian with Tesla software and know how. It would have been far more epic than this. Is this tech amazing, yes. Still pales in comparison to the future I thought was coming.
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u/Mean-Marionberry-148 16h ago
It would have been nice if instead of the Cyberflop we got a Gen 2 Model 3 and Y at least in the pipeline. It’s insane the S and X didn’t even get a second generation and were cancelled. The reason their sales collapsed is because they were ancient AF. If they’d launched a Gen 2 with attractive styling, 10-80% charge in 15 mins, 400 miles minimum range and up to 500 miles for longest range models Tesla would have sold a ton of them.
I feel like this is the unfortunate outcome of having a part-time CEO who is more interested in buying elections and harming the overall EV industry.
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u/Big_Expression_9858 New to the sub 1d ago
Because Elon bad lol
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u/south-of-the-river New to the sub 23h ago
Well, he kind of freaking is.
You can like Tesla and the products WHILE ALSO acknowledging that there is a lot of very strong reasons why people would not like the man.
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u/fieldsend- New to the sub 19h ago
Are non-engineers so technically illiterate that they think this would be feasible at all?
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u/TitusImmortalis New to the sub 15h ago
Yes, and they also argue about "Oh you would laugh at the wright brothers too, I bet!"
They're uninterested in learning, and just want to join the crowd. It's the same thing that keeps people buying iPhones without understanding, caring or maybe even using any new features that they offer.
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u/ELr3ddit New to the sub 1d ago
No one can choose that version of the car unless they’re invited - it’s invite-only, so your question does not apply.
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u/rsg1234 Owner 1d ago
I have a sneaking suspicion that the one the demo’d may be the only one they ever make.
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u/Live-Kiwi3977 1d ago
🤣🤣 At this point, the demo car might end up being a museum exhibit before any customer gets the keys 😂
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u/Perfect-Magazine-485 1d ago
I hate negative people.
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u/Videoplushair 1d ago
Florida will make it legal.
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u/jackiebrown1978a 1d ago
I've never seen him joke before. That was a pretty good attempt. I liked it
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u/RaisinWorried3528 New to the sub 1d ago
Make no mistake about it, the only reason I am choosing this car is because I'm going to trade it for a stick or two of RAM, if possible.
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u/souptobolts New to the sub 1d ago
people talking like the general public will be able to buy this version of the roadster and be able to drive it on public roads lol
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u/BeepBoo007 New to the sub 1d ago
Even without the thrusters, if I had Ferrari money, I'd buy the Tesla. It's sure to have insane performance numbers and it's all electric. After owning and working on them, tinkering through my F&F stages of life from the time I was 16, I'm good calling it quits on doing maintenance or buy gas after 20 years.
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u/Samsonlp New to the sub 20h ago
The Ferrari exists is street legal can be bought, driven and used Europe and the United States. It has actually been manufactured. This thing does not exist is not legal, it's just nonsense. My preference would be the power armor from robotech since we are discussing fantasy vehicles.
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u/Comfortable-Car-7298 1d ago
There is no reason to buy a mechanical watch anymore, people still buy them for the experience and the beauty, even though they are worse at keeping time. Same goes here, tesla is casio, if you need a watch, there is a good chance casio is your best bet, and if you need a commuter tesla is the same. Casio could put the coolest gimmick in their watches and it’s never gonna be the biggest desire of an enthusiast.
If you ask me, get rid of the thrusters that are illegal on the road anyhow, put in 2 more seats and you made my dream daily, but if I have that kinda money I already have a gr yaris to rally, a 911 touring for track and mountain roads, and a bmw m2 for sliding about. I say this as a model 3 owner before I get called a tesla hater.
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u/Own-Engineering-8315 New to the sub 1d ago
Left lane campers, your days are numbered
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u/SkyrimSecurityForces New to the sub 1d ago
I'm not miserable so I don't need to make a preamble about how smart I am and how lame everything is. I'll take the roadster. Nice car, plus some futuristic tech. Sign me up!
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u/22marks 1d ago
Can it just "jump" or does it always have to spin? One would think spinning and stabilizing is harder? But I would've loved if it just jumped over all the cars and semi. Like, is there a physics reason the spin might be the only type of jump possible. It already proved it can right itself when it went up the ramp.
It can clearly take off and land perfectly horizontally. If it's not perfectly balanced, it should be able to use the thrusters to keep it that way, no?
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u/Easy-Reserve7401 New to the sub 1d ago
Can it just "jump" or does it always have to spin? One would think spinning and stabilizing is harder?
I'd wager that doing something hard and pulling it off, shows technical prowess.
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u/Nota_ReAlperson New to the sub 1d ago
Watch the ramp jump. After the spin, it flies level for quite a while before landing.
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u/Mean-Marionberry-148 16h ago
This is about as real as the 600 mile roadster, the 520 mile Model S, the $39K Cybertruck, 1 million Robotaxis by 2020, appreciating assets, “never allowing FSD transfers” and a million other things.
I’m 99.99% sure that vehicle was made of out some sort of plastic and it was not packing any sort of real battery pack in it. They never showed the same car doing multiple things (ie. rapid acceleration and flying). There were always cuts between cars doing XYZ.
If any sort of thruster gets put into a production model I’ll be shocked. They have already said the “flying” one will never be sold to the public, nor street legal.
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u/Lowviscosity New to the sub 1d ago
It’s a party trick. With the air tank capacity as it stands it would take only 5 seconds to empty it. And 2-6 hrs to fill it up…
I like tesla and have 2 - M3 / MY
But this is just a stunt…
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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 1d ago
I wouldn't want a Ferrari anyway, so I'd 100% pick the Tesla.
But with infinite money, I'd likely get a maxed out Model X or something.
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u/Mental_Yard New to the sub 22h ago
"fuck them cops, watch this bro, I'm outta here!!"
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u/audigex 1d ago
You have to be literally invited to buy that version of the Roadster, and you can't use it on a road
It's for a very small group of very rich people who just like to have everything
I'd take a Ferrari over the regular Roadster. I'd probably have taken the 2017 "2020" Roadster, but the current version looks ugly as hell
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u/BrianScalaweenie 1d ago
I’m not sure I would choose anything other than maybe a Koenigsegg or a Bugatti over a Ferrari.
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u/toybuilder 20h ago
This looks like the underbody of a stunt car used to flip cars when making action movies.
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u/Areyoucunt New to the sub 19h ago
Because it is.... it will be able to "fly" for roughly 10s before needs 2 hours to fill compressed air into that tank.
It's not happening.. its purely marketing stund which dumb as fuck people are gobbling up
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u/theamericaninfrance New to the sub 18h ago
Not just any ol compressed air. Cryogenically cooled nitrogen. Which takes 7-10 hours and highly specialized equipment
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u/Moon-People 1d ago
Would I choose the Tesla or a far slower, gas-reliant car which doesn’t fly? Not even a question, even if it’s the base model.
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u/Perfect-Magazine-485 1d ago
This car can fucking fly and you have a bunch of mouth breathers saying it’ll only have rear thrusters and won’t be available to the masses… yeah no shit. Almost like people can dream on Reddit without people like you commenting.
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u/zakanova New to the sub 20h ago
Fuck man. I just want to live in an affordable neighbourhood where I can walk to get shit I need to live.
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u/Delfonic84 New to the sub 20h ago
No because a Ferrari actually exists. This will never deliver.
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u/starkrampf New to the sub 1d ago edited 1d ago
At this point a Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti or any of those million dollar combustion engine sports cars just look like tractors. 🚜
We’re seeing a step change in performance. Cornering like on rails, acceleration of a dragster, top speed of a bullet. Can’t be achieved with these tractors.
I want to experience the future!
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u/Johannes_Katze New to the sub 1d ago
The same thing could be said about cars like the rimac Nevera, still was a flop because people that can afford these cars don't care about these gimmicks, they want a piece of art, something with prestige and heritage, not cybertrucks little brother.
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u/blahbruhla New to the sub 1d ago
The public can't safely operate a vehicle that is flat on the ground... So, wtf is everyone talking about in terms of letting the public use this on the streets lol.
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u/IronGator New to the sub 1d ago
Where exactly could you legally use this functionality? and...how long can they "fly" before they need to be recharged? This seems like the first jet packs; awesome, but not useful for most use cases. Fantastic feat of engineering though.
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u/billnyethefoodguy1 New to the sub 1d ago
What if the driver is super fat? Do you have to calculate for a heavier person?
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u/ImAtWurk 21h ago
I don’t see how they can fit all of that in addition to any battery giving any amount of decent range underneath the car.
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u/exit87 New to the sub 19h ago
Right, cold air infrastructure takes up battery space. Elon didn’t say anything about range during the event even though people in the crowd were yelling that question.
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u/Live_Life_and_enjoy New to the sub 20h ago
The funniest part is the fine print where tesla says
"Tesala cannot garuntee your Pre-Order will ever be delivered"
https://insideevs.com/news/812247/tesla-roadster-preorder-delivery-guarantee/
Also $250,000 is not the "Final cost" you are required to not only pay upfront for reservation, you maybe required to pay an infinite amount more for delivery.
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u/boristheblade223 New to the sub 1d ago
I’d definitely drive a Tesla if they paid me. But for my own money? Nah.
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u/MN-Car-Guy New to the sub 1d ago
If someone was in a position to purchase a brand new Ferrari… they can also choose a Tesla Roadster. Both. Not one or the other.
Some enthusiasts/collectors have broad and eclectic tastes. Some have a very narrow focus. I know collectors that have a dozen Ferraris and nothing else. Others have a Ferrari and also a Citroen and a GT-R and a Trans Am. Different strokes for different folks.
The Tesla appeals to the Tech Bro that likely wasn’t a huge traditional car collector.
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u/Ecstatic_Wishbone609 New to the sub 1d ago
I'm too poor to consider either. But I don't get why this product is being bandied about as a Roadster. I've two roadsters and they both have drop tops. And NO, not even Elon can make me change the definition of a roadster.
NO means NO.
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u/Ok_Suspect_4342 New to the sub 1d ago
Every single person arguing about this car is missing the fact that the website says "invite only" for this model which basically confirms it will never really exist in any sort of capacity.
It's an experimental concept car. No one is going to own this except for maybe 3 people Elon personally sells it to and it will sit in a garage/hangar.
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u/Pandemoniusanus New to the sub 1d ago
No! A Ferrari is a purpose built race car you can drive on the street ( most models ) or the track. This abomination is just a kit car built to preform a stunt and serves no other purpose. You’d have to be stupid to even get near this thing with that amount of pressure more or less actually drive it.
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u/quantgorithm 1d ago
This is wrong. The entire point of the suction on the bottom and the dynamic spoiler and vents and even the rear thrusters is to be a superior racing car. This will easily smoke any Ferrari at what Ferrari wants to do best - race.
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u/waitses 1d ago
The McMurtry Spéirling will smoke this and already exists today, I watched the Hagerty walk through just now and there skirt system for active downforce is the whole bottom of the car (very inefficient) and skirts are disposable, McMurtry has a better system.
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u/DamianDarth New to the sub 1d ago
And the hate begins lol … Kitt from Knight Rider is officially real and the haters trash talk.
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u/SonicDethmonkey 1d ago
This is a science project that you can’t use on public roads so I genuinely don’t see the point.
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u/beepboop100110 New to the sub 1d ago
Unless we are about to make Rocket League a real live sport, I don’t see the point of any of this.
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u/Working_Agent4932 New to the sub 1d ago
"unless we need to jump over a small stream I just don't see the point of the Wright Brothers wasting so much time and energy on this aero-plane nonsense."
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u/EmmanDB3 New to the sub 1d ago
Why are you acting as if this is an average consumer product? Can you tell me what the “point” of the most expensive Ferrari is?
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u/madmax111587 New to the sub 1d ago
Ya to think something like that could be street legal let alone insurable ain't no way.
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u/Nismo_Bailey 1d ago
Ermm no I wouldn’t choose it over a Ferrari. I just want my car…to do car things.
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u/GustavGunZz New to the sub 1d ago
Sth says to me that a feature like this could be a problem in modern society
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u/GamerTex 1d ago
I would take a model 3 over a Ferrari
Until Ferrari goes EV and adds a Tesla FSD license
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u/Penny__Packer 1d ago
I mean I’d choose any Tesla over a Ferrari unless I’m allowed to sell the Ferrari
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u/yadiyoda 1d ago
Am I the only one getting knight rider vibe?
This is cool and all, but aesthetic wise I would not go anywhere near it, it’s a cool fugly car.
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u/noseclams25 New to the sub 1d ago
Id take the Ferrari, sell it, buy a new Tesla Model Y and pocket the rest of the money.
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u/r3dmist420 New to the sub 1d ago
Id choose just about any car comparably for the price over an italian trash ferrari
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u/Armaced 1d ago
Honestly I wouldn’t buy either - I have no need in my life for an expensive two seater performance vehicle.
However, in the spirit of your question, I personally would totally buy the Roadster (street legal version) over a Ferrari. I love EVs and don’t want to own any more ICE vehicles.
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u/Johnvoir007 1d ago
As a Valet at the Four Seasons Hotel Dallas. My inner Ferris Bueller Day Off” can’t wait 😛
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u/SimpleJackfruit New to the sub 1d ago
This is just showing off CAPABLE technology that would be deployed for other uses. We are just seeing the extreme of what this tech can offer. Easily can be deployed on mars rovers or moon rovers to get off tough terrain. Regardless, this has never been done before and it’s awesome. Do not expect this on a consumer car on public roads.
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u/1startreknerd New to the sub 1d ago
The biggest part of the unveiling was the info about the regular Roadster battery being 33% higher capacity with 50% less mass. This could result in again cheaper Ys like the last 4680s but over 300 miles. Or for the same price more range. ~33% more would be 400 miles.
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u/Aggravating-Big3858 New to the sub 1d ago
Not me personally, but am sure plenty of people will.
This "demo" reminds me of all the AI hype right now ... "just look at what this can do!" And most of us are standing there scratching our heads, like okay what was that?
Are any of these tech advancements ever going to be useful, or do we live in gaslight city now, and we're going to be force fed this is all amazing stuff and we're just too dumb to understand that
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u/Anxious-Plan4482 New to the sub 1d ago
Awesome, now when I drive off of a cliff I will at least have a soft landing.
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u/spruceeffects 1d ago
I think anyone who is eligible to get invited to buy a "rocket" trim already has Ferraris.
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u/Lazy-Intern-5371 New to the sub 1d ago
Why did they waste the time, money and effort? What a joke when they could have focused on finishing the shit they said they would do and never did. It looks more and more that Tesla is an empty promise, Albert not as empty as his solar roof tile debacle.
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u/Sea-Bobcat-6384 New to the sub 1d ago
Only invite gets that flying car, but, I'll pick Telsa over ferrari any day, even any Telsa performance.
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u/DrJohnZoidbergWhyNot New to the sub 1d ago
There is no practical use for these tricks. The nerd it me loves the idea and they did it, but no application.
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u/TJayClark 1d ago
I’d be worried that I’d buy this and HW6 would come out and my car wouldn’t be able to do the latest version of flips because I bought a Gen 1
Cries in $54,000 - 2021 -HW3 - Intel - Model Y
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u/paulyp41 New to the sub 1d ago
So the people stuck in traffic behind it, just have to wait for all the steam to dissipate, before they can go about their business ?
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u/SirMingie New to the sub 1d ago
If this ever came to market I’m giving it 1 week before someone ties to bunny hop over someone in traffic, lands directly on someone and kills them.
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u/CountRidgewood New to the sub 1d ago
They should have stuck with the original design…Tesla needs to focus on actually making cars the general public would want to drive.
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u/davsynth New to the sub 1d ago
Dude. I want an EV that doesn’t suck and costs less than 30K. I don’t want a car that can do a kickflip.
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u/Ok-Paramedic8 New to the sub 1d ago
Musk will pull this shit while paying nearly 300 million to overthrow our democracy. Meanwhile, Elon glazers are crying that people aren’t sufficiently impressed. He always pulls these stunts to get more funding for his grifts.
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u/docfreezed New to the sub 1d ago
Honestly, Ferrari would basically print money if they simply updated the drivetrain of a F40 and give it few aerodynamics improvements for EV efficiency. 🐎
I do really love the design of the new drop-down headlights of this Roadster prototype. 😎
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u/BigGreenBillyGoat 1d ago
I would. But I wouldn’t get the model that can do that. There are three tiers offered. I think this is only on the top tier.
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u/AboveNormality New to the sub 1d ago
The amount of people that don’t realize this is a heavily modified shell of a car that was heavily modified to do this stunt and will never be in a production car is wild
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u/dumbledayum 1d ago
Hypercars are for show off, there is no better show off than this