Why doesn’t Tesla do this with their Matrix Headlights? Seems like this can be done with a software update. Pretty cool!
Edit: I think some people are missing the point on this video. Your low beams light up the entire road. What you’re seeing in the video is the high beams lighting up a section of road in front of the car. Then when you change lanes those high beams shift to that lane so you can see better.
I don't think Tesla can do that (at this level) with a software upgrade. Audi uses matrix headlights with a much higher resolution.
If I remember correctly Tesla uses less than 100 segments per light. The newest Audi lights have thousands of segments, they're basically led projectors.
interesting, I assumed Juniper also have lower resolution, because they went to lower resolution for Highland. Strange choice, given how similar their pricing is
My 2023 M3 does something similar but not exactly this with the lane change. It turns on high beams when high beams are set to auto and then turns of the specific high beam lights that will blind other drivers. You can notice it better when there is a median and your driving next to it
No they had 100 pixels (it was a Samsung 100 pixel "pixcell" module) this system is in the thousands (not sure which osram led module is being used but they are multiple thousands)
My matrix headlights already carve out the light around other vehicles, I don’t see why I would want it to just be on the lane I’m in.
It might be fine in a highway like this but if I’m driving in a rural area I absolutely need to see both sides of the road to try and see deer or other animals that might jump in front of me.
Mine in my VW Tiguan do this too, but I hate it and it can't be turned off.
They are too slow and end up blinding oncoming drivers for 0.5-1 second on a good day, which I find unacceptable.
When ever I use my high-beams, I have to push the stalk forward once to enable them in auto mode, then wait a beat, then push forward again to put them in manual mode. Only then will they dip when I pull the stalk back.
If I leave it in auto mode and then pull the stalk because it hasn't dipped fast enough, it flashes them full-bore, making me look like an asshole.
Again your low beams are on and covering the entire road and area in front of you. It’s only directly in front of you where the high beams are lit. If you were on a road all by yourself, the high beams would automatically be on.
This is actually really stupid. It creates blind zones for no practical reason whatsoever. Driver should be aware what happens around, not just in their lane. Normal matrix lights prevent blinding other cars while providing best lighting everywhere else.
There are no "blind zones". Everything that would be illuminated with low beams is still illuminated. It's using projector beams as "high" beams to light up space that wouldn't be occupied by another vehicle.
Just do some reading on it if you don't understand.
You do know the low beam headlights are still on and illuminating the entire road right? The high beams are focused in front of the car so the driver can see more details. I’m not sure why this would be a bad thing. There are no blind zones with this setup.
Illuminating much weaker. Eyes adapt to the brightness. If you look on something bright, you'll see darker areas much worse. And considering humans have much worse peripheral vision to begin with, you will not notice lot of things. This is literally putting a lot of effort to make it worse.
Looking at something comparatively bright reduces your sensitivity to darker stimuli. Switching from high beams to low actually does require your eyes to adjust which could be dangerous, but the effect is fleeting and the alternatives, i.e. leaving your brights on in an inappropriate situation, are more dangerous.
This differs completely from hitting the center of the road with your high beams and side of the road with headlights. Assuming your eyes are on the road (bold ask for a Tesla driver) then your eyes will be adjusted to the high beams with diminished ability to resolve shapes in the darker peripheral vision... for the whole duration of your drive... This is something that's immediately obvious to the smart commenters here and painfully out of reach for the inbred monkeys who think this is practical.
Amazing inbred monkeys are designing these systems! It's almost like they've researched and developed these systems with data that supports their benefits and aren't on Reddit listening to the experts!
You misunderstand, the inbred monkeys are driving them. The designers know this is impractical and dangerous, but were told to include it by c-suite. Just like flush mounted door handles, if it drives profit up beyond the expected cost of settlements, then it goes on the car. Hard to believe some people are still ignorant of how companies work.
The logic it that this feature makes lighting worse for no practical reason. Even assuming that peripheral lighting is good enough, it's still worse than it would be with this feature absent.
The other problem I see in this is that having bright areas means your eyes adjust to those accordingly. So the low beam area don't "look" as Bright as your pupils have adjusted so you see worse in the areas you also want to see details
It puts auto high beams on and then removes the specific places oncoming traffic is in so they aren’t blinded. The light carpet is mostly for show but it also shows exactly where your left and right wheel are which is helpful (it’s hard to see in the image but it does)
When you signal or shift lanes it jumps to the next one and signals into the path of the lane next to you. Trust me, it’s useful and nice. If money was no object it’s a huge plus. Particularly for the always on high beams
In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
Because it's brighter and it lights the lane in front of you further so you can see better right in front of you. Who cares how it looks, it has a functional purpose that falls into the safety category
Tesla’s matrix headlights cannot be compared to the much more expensive matrix headlights found on premium brands. The number of pixels in Tesla’s lighting system is only a fraction of the pixel count in those far costlier headlights from premium manufacturers. Consequently, it is physically impossible to achieve the same results using Tesla’s OEM headlights.
As part of cost cutting Tesla reduced the resolution of their matrix headlights with the current crop of cars, they can’t project as accurately as whatever car is being shown in this video.
Everything is lit up by standard headlights, tho. These allow you to use brights without being a nuisance to other drivers. So you actually have visibility everywhere plus extra visibility in your direct path where potholes and debris might be. The blinker bit is the only gimmicky thing I see here.
I drive on the highway and in the woods everyday. This is just for the high beams, as noted above. Everything is properly illuminated, and it works very well.
I think you're confusing the highway demonstration with the full capabilities of matrix headlights. The road is already illuminated, and what you're seeing is the system selectively controlling the high beams to avoid dazzling other drivers.
On country roads and through wooded areas, conventional high beams illuminate the road and its surroundings, but they also risk dazzling oncoming traffic. Matrix headlights can selectively switch off individual LED segments to create a cut-out around oncoming vehicles or vehicles ahead, while keeping the high beams active across the rest of the scene.
That means you can still illuminate the verges, bends and surrounding woodland without blinding other drivers. You're not sacrificing roadside visibility just because another vehicle is approaching. That's the whole point of matrix headlights.
This is stupid and i dont know how its even made and legal. Europe has light pattern designed specifically to give best ilumination of the road shoulders, this is literally a joke. But often, even though we have good rules, for some reason manufacturers can make a shitshow with lights and car is still road legal. I dont understand
I have never seen any car in Europe that has adaptive led matrix headlights and works like this. They illuminate the shoulders if possible and and basically everything with high beam except other cars and motorcycles and in newer ones the traffic signs.
In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
Doesn’t seem like the best idea to high beam the small area where it is in the video as your eye doesn’t have variable adjustments to brightness in different areas, the low beam area will be perceived as darker as they adjust to the relative brightness of the small high beam area. The way the matrix lights are now are sufficient to avoid blinding others while allowing for a wide field of view.
You would really have to see it in person. The video doesn’t do it justice. With the low beams covering the entire roadway you see just as you normally would in any other car. The high beam portion is concentrated to the front of your car only to give you more visibility. Again, you’d have to see it in person to really understand how well it works.
Yeah but why? Why not just have everything illuminated with your high beams other than cars and peds? You’re giving up illumination far out on the sides where a deer might just decide to run into the road and you won’t see it til it’s directly in your lane. I’d be more impressed if it was able to block out reflective signs but keep everything around still illuminated.
You can’t drive on busy roads with your high beams on. If you are on a road all by yourself your high beams will automatically come on in a Tesla. This feature allows you to have your high beams on directly in front of you without affecting other drivers.
Tesla headlights are really bad compared to e.g BMW or VW. At least in Germany.
I think Tesla is focusing on fancy things like Thrusters or Halloween sounds.
Automatic windshield wipers still not working reliable. Really sad :-(
Less than $800 for the pair.. Install yourself for free or pay a shop. Takes about 2 hours. I converted my 2019 model 3. Decided to pay a shop. $1300, out the door.
Yes, exactly. You see this a lot in Europe. People literally cut the headlights out of cars they are that expensive. I looked these up for the Audi and they’re 5K each from a third-party seller. From the dealer, they’re probably 8 to 10K with installation.
Lights up everything. Looks ahead and automatically dims the high beams ONLY in the direct line of sight of oncoming vehicles and leaves everything else bright. Automatically adjusts the high beams for vehicles ahead of you to not blind them.
They work incredible in NA I used them for three years. You can see them turn off only for the areas other cars or people are looking at. For a while the adaptive lighting wasnt legal so it would just blast the whole grid and blind the hell out of people, but it was basically like a very wide square of daytime in the dark.
If they suck where you are its probably because your gov is restricting some part of the tech. There are a lot of regulations around headlights depending on your country/state.
Well, lights serve two functions. They enable you to see, and they make it easier for others to see you.. Tesla tries to have it be a standard low beam for oncoming traffic and close cars in front, and a high beam for everywhere else. Not really clear to me what the lights in your video actually accomplish. You don’t see the deer running into the road until it’s right in front of you, and not clear how the guy you tailgate sees it.
This video is on an expressway with other cars. The low beams are on all the time, the high beams are on directly in front of the car. If I was on a country road with no other cars, the high beams would be on and spread out across multiple lanes like normal high beams.
For one, I thought Tesla already had this elsewhere in the world. They even had a show I think in Berlin where they had the headlights projecting "TESLA" onto a wall.
For another, I really wish they had this in the US. People can talk about auto headlights "being enough" or "you need visibility" as though the other drivers outright can't see the headlights if they aren't beamed directly at you. But "visibility of headlights" is a problem exactly nowhere unless it's people who are completely missing headlights. You only need a dim strip or something to be plenty visible. The big problem is people being unable to see the road because of the headlights of other cars.
So this helps with the actual problem.
But also, this particular implementation is definitely more showy than practical. The turn signal is kinda cool, if a bit confusing to drivers who aren't already aware of it. But the point of matrix headlights should be to maximize how much of the road it lights up. By blocking out other drivers, you can go full-bore right up to the road behind them and the road around them. So having it only highlight the lane kinda defeats the purpose. A deer jumping from the side is unlit in this case.
If they wanted to keep those features, what they could do instead is have full-width projection, and then indicate the lane by using a different color or (more practically) dimming out the lane lines. That would indicate where the lanes are without affecting visibility much.
Terrible idea. The point is to light up as much as possible while not blinding other drivers. Why wouldn’t you want to see other lanes where there might be a an animal crossing etc?
That is how Rivian’s lights work. The high beams light up nearly your entire field of view and then just carve out a small section when there is an oncoming vehicle or something else that is highly reflective.
Interesting. I wasn’t aware Tesla had this. I knew they had matrix lighting hardware, but I thought they were like a lot of other manufacturers who had gotten caught in the situation of the US regulations going into effect and then the hardware not meeting those regulations. It’s such a nice feature. I’ve owned my R1S for over a year now and I’ve literally never touched a single headlight setting.
Exactly. Tesla's matrix headlights are designed so the FSD cameras can see absolutely everything that could be at all significant to driving decisions. It's not about looking cool. It's about autonomy, while not blinding the cars or houses around you.
I’m curious how these react with a car in front of this car. The Tesla ones are completely dark if there’s someone like 100 feet in front of me. Seems dangerous lol
Because the resolution of Tesla’s Matrix Light is, compared to german manufactures, very poor. It would not work as good as shown in this, I believe Audi.
In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
The latest Model Y matrix headlight in my opinion is better than what’s happening in this video. Its high beam has many small sections that automatically be turn on/off independently to provide great coverage without blinding. You can actually see when a car is moving in front of you, how the individual sections in the space gets turned on and off gradually. And they have to be good otherwise FSD won’t work at night.
This shit would annoy the fuck out of me, I already have to face my side mirrors downwards due to the insanely bright headlights and that auto brights bullshit.
After changing lanes and approaching vehicles, appears to fail to reduce high brightness for vehicle immediately in front.
The sharp contrast shown seems to me as a negative, could be fixable if they had update capability.
In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
I'm pretty sure the reason has to do with the certification / regulation and even though they're legal in the US, local laws still haven't caught up. Here is an article on the Audi bring them to America.
Thank you for the link. In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
I really like this. Every time I get an update from Tesla being a HW3 owner in Australia I am always annoyed that they include such garbage. But if they include this, I would be really impressed. Thanks for sharing OP. Whilst the company is off making a remote control flying drone that used some technology for the US defence system, they should have been doing things like this.
Simply disable the lane highlight mode and boom, you got full peripheral coverage. This video shows a single mode and people start shitting on matrix LED in general without knowing how it works. I've been driving cars with led matrix for over 10 years and will never go back.
Why would I want my high beams to only light a narrow strip in front of me instead of everything out can except for other driver's eyes? This is what I call a gimmick
You would probably have to see it in person to really appreciate it. Your low beams are on illuminating everything in front of you but your highbeams are on directly in front of you so you can see better.
Because it’s gimmicky. If it can produce a brighter spot in any shape it wants, it means the light source is powerful enough to light up the entire low beam plane to that brightness. It’s intentionally reducing the total output your light is capable of in order to give you this light show.
Also, for human night vision it’s actually better to light up the field of vision evenly than to light up a spot, because your eyes will adjust to that contrast, and now area outside of your light carpet feels even dimmer, and if something shot across the road you are more likely to miss it
I...don't understand. You should NEVER have high beams on in the presence of other cars, even if you're in a lane over. I'm hoping that's at least being accounted for. Imagine being tailgated by someone with that...
If you are tailgating someone the lights adjust to not blind them. It’s completely dynamic, depending on the cars next to you in front of you and coming towards you.
In the video, the low beams are on lighting up the entire road. The high beams are concentrated in front of the car and the next lane over when you change lanes.
People apparently are too dumb to understand what’s going on. Everyone is acting that the headlights only light up the road in front of you and are off and provide no illumination to anything else. The stupidity just blows me away. People are thinking the oem just turned off any illumination on the sides? Like wtf lmao?
This party trick only is relevant if you're the only one on a rather empty the road with that trick. If all cars have that and it's heavy traffic, this is pure visual chaos.
Again, your regular low beams are on, but your highbeams are on as well in front of your car so you can see better without blinding other drivers. I do not see how this is distracting. Technically you’re the only one seeing it unless you change lanes it will project into the other lane for a few seconds.
Tesla has some of the worst headlights. Why don't they do matrix headlights? Probably because they don't want to bound to US or EU rules and regs, margins are thin etc
You really have no idea what you're talking about. The matrix headlight behavior for the Tesla's that do have it operate much better than the OP video because Tesla actually illuminates everything on high beam except for specific vehicles. Illuminating one lane and nothing else is completely stupid since it prevents you from seeing any other potential hazards. Look here to see Tesla's matrix headlights in action.
it definitely isn't, why are you talking on things you haven't experienced and don't understand? model Y premium has them and they are amazing. high beams in places no other cars can use them, lighting the surrounding shoulders and treelines while keeping light off of other cars passing by in either direction
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I don't think Tesla can do that (at this level) with a software upgrade. Audi uses matrix headlights with a much higher resolution.
If I remember correctly Tesla uses less than 100 segments per light. The newest Audi lights have thousands of segments, they're basically led projectors.