r/classicwow • • 12h ago

Forever Something Something Racial Identity

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u/ExtremePrivilege 12h ago

You can agree with both, though. Orc Mages seem stupid to me. Orcs are shamanistic. Even warlocks are a stretch given their history. Undead Spriests make sense but not Disc or Holy and certainly not Paladins. Forsaken are destroyed by the light. Yes, I’ve fought Four Horseman. That’s a retcon being used to justify a nonsensical addition.

Tauren Paladins I’m not a fan of. But I think Gnome Warriors are dumb too. Let’s tank Onyxia as a 2.5’ 45lb garden ornament with a 1h sword roughly the size of a butter knife.

But at the end of the day it’s a fantasy game. All of the lore is made up, rarely consistent and often contradictory. Let people play what they want. It’s not a serious game with serious lore.

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u/BiggusTippus 10h ago

Honestly playable warlocks in general were a huge stretch in Classic. You mean you just came off a major Legion invasion only a few years ago, and you are allowing warlocks to walk your cities and represent your faction? You mean to tell me the Horde accepted warlocks after their recent incident with Mannoroth's blood, not to mention a bloody dreadlord as the Forsaken's second in command? The Alliance is just going to accept people who summon demons after the Legion just used the Scourge to take out every major nation north of Silverpine and then slaughtered the survivors until the Scourge and the Forsaken finished them off? Are none of the faction leaders afraid a warlock might lose control of their demons and spark some minor invasion?

Compared to warlocks being playable at all, I don't feel like tauren paladins are that egregious. Maybe it's about time they give different flavors of the same class some different customization on their spells to further emphasize how they are not your typical light worshipping paladin or whatever. No class is in greater need of this than paladins considering how controversial it is any time any race that isn't a Light worshipper gets the class.

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u/a_hundred_highways 8h ago

Could've been more flavorful indeed, although its not like it feels weird in the context of WoW solely, demons in WoW itself are sort of "just another problem" and not especially more of a threat than Scourge, trolls running rampant ot the AQ insects...

But it wouldve been fun if the different races or factions had different demons to summon, at least appearancewise, with some lore explanation for why these were "ok demons" -- for undead it could be that these are varimathras' spawn and under his command to serve you...for orcs it could be "wild demons" who live in RFC's depths, flame spirits not actually under the legion's control...flaming voidwalker is an easy idea...for trolls it could be "tormented ancestor demons" that are dangerous but just because theyll attempt revenge for wrongs suffered in life, not end the world...gnomes just dgaf about consequences and summon demon demons...and humans...maybe shouldnt be warlocks lol, cant think of anything plausible there. 

I dont mean that all the summons would be super different, that seems visually confusing...just like, the orc ones are a bit redder and flamey, the troll ones have a few random voodoo type held objects/clothing items added (which could be randomized like the names), the undead ones could have a subtle chain collar thing on them bc theyre varimathras's crew, with gnomes keep basic demons. 

The notion of troll demons holding random things is kinda killing me...like your imp can randomly be holding a fish, a stick, have a voodoo mask on, etc, and it's set that way after the first summon like the name. I think people would literally play to level 3 and reroll if they didnt get the one they wanted lol. It would be hype I think.