This new race offers some new class combos such as druid and shaman for the alliance. Basically, what happened is right before the humans became afflicted with the curse of flesh from Tyr, there was a small offshoot of humans who were exiled for their use of aquatic magic. and they ended up settling with Neptulan and became worshippers of the tides. Over time, this turned their skin blue and they have been rediscovered on a mysterious island previously covered by a mysterious mist.

And now they are ready to join the Alliance.

Meet the Bluemens. They are allowed to play Warrior, Paladin, Hunter, Rogue, Shaman, Druid. Their racials include Gilborn, which allows them to swim faster. And they also have the Bloomin' Spirit, which gives them increased chance to collect additional Murloc Fins. and fish oil when killing Murlocs and Naga. Let me know what you think. Druid forms include a water bear, a sea lion as their cat form, and a really fast dolphin for their aquatic form. And their travel form is a really fast piranha.

This is likely something Metzen would approve of, given the fact that they worship one of the elemental lords in the pre established lore. Also, their starting area doesn't exist on either continent. Instead of floating above, it is submerged below and contains retail assets, so that way you know that we're dealing with a really cool new race concept here. Let me know what you guys think.

The SD models in Forever use the HD skeletons from Retail. On most races this is fine and the difference is hardly noticeable, but on others it's really obvious - male Tauren (pictured), male Nelf and male Undead in particular.

The Tauren's arms now flare outward from the body, rather than parallel to it. I think they're also slightly longer. This creates the illusion of narrower shoulders and a less imposing stature on Tauren - who are meant to be the most physically imposing of all races.

The idle animation doesn't help either. Their breathing is more exaggerated, giving that bouncier 'retail' feel. The same can be said of male Nelves and their weird side-to-side swaying.

Blizzard actually already have made small adjustments, like fixing the neck position that male Nelves have in Retail (which I think has gone down unanimously well with male Nelf players) So a couple more tweaks would go even further <3

I hope that Blizz's animators will do some adjustments to the skeletons here and there in the future. IMO Tauren and Nelves just don't look as cool as they used to.

(Obligatory note to say I love Forever and I'm mega excited for launch. This is just constructive feedback that people have made before, but I wanted to lend another voice to).

Edit: I know Blizz already re-made the Classic running animations on these models, and they look great. Just goes further to show they can & are willing to make adjustments, so it's useful to provide this feedback.

Eeeeerm acdually this is forever not classic, and a 2021 BMW 5 Series 530i is inline with warcraft lore, havent you seen the latest xolatath WoW cinematic?

for real though, what do we have to do to get the original skeleton back?

Yesterday I set up my camp and someone said 'thx'. My heart was pounding but I managed to type 'yw' once my hands stopped shaking so much. He layered before it was sent but I still think we're BFFs now. I'll probably be the best man at his WoW wedding.

Kudos to the devs for making Azeroth social again!

GJ blizz

Wow Forever kind of killed my desire to play TBC and my guilds desire to raid. I had never done BT or Sunwell before so a bit bummed that I probably won't now. But I didn't want to pug it. Just seemed way more stressful than it was worth.

I know its sounds stupid, but I really didn't want to leave my character just stood by the mailbox in Shattrath for the rest of time. I Played this character more than maybe any of my previous characters (apart from maybe my WotLK mage). In total I put 15 days, 4 hours, 43 mins into it, which isn't that much compared to other players, but is pretty much all the free gaming time I have.

So decided I would find a nice place to leave him. Went to a peak in Nagrand, figured it was the kind of place you could sit and rest for a while.

See you all in Forever.

Just wanted to share some feedback in the hopes that someone at Blizzard is lurking and taking notes. They've updated the UI a few times now but I think we're still missing the mark.

I've been roaming around Elwynn Forest pretty much since launch.

Back in the day I was feared. I used to cause absolute mayhem. People would literally bring their friends just to stand a chance against me.

Nowadays?
Paladins and Priests are SOLOING me. Mages just freeze me in place while I helplessly watch my health disappear.

I've had the same abilities for 22 years. No buffs, no reworks, nothing. Meanwhile, everyone else keeps getting stronger with every patch.

They're theorycrafting every little detail, using addons and all kinds of new tech to squeeze out every possible advantage.

And what do I get? Nothing.

Same abilities, same rotation, same miserable existence.

Does Blizzard even playtest this game from my perspective? Do they care at all how this feels?

I'm seriously considering just not spawning anymore.

- Hogger, Elwynn Forest

Hi there.

I've been seeing a lot of people wonder who the hell Tipsout is, and why he seems to be some sort of plant that came out of nowher...well yeah, he is a plant, but he's more. Just wanted to point out how scummy and shady he is so you people knew who you're dealing with. I’ve been around the wow scene for years, and i’ve watched tips out come and go. his recurring involvement feels opportunistic to me, and seeing him promoted again doesn’t erase the reasons people have distrusted him.

Here’s the history people keep referring to, with sources and accusations identified as accusations.

2019 : the construction-business allegations

Commenters accused him of involvement in false payment claims for unfinished work at a construction business associated with his family.

contemporary discussion

2019 : the tournament prize-money accusation

It's also alleged that tips out agreed on stream to increase a tournament prize pool following a donation, failed to pay the full increase, and banned them after they questioned him about it.

September 2019 : the layering-exploit controversy

Tons of players accused him of deliberately using a layering exploit, receiving loot, and then describing it as testing. The resulting argument also involved accusations of streamer favoritism over punishment.

blizzard thread

2020–2021 campaigns : otk and softgiving’s charity fundraising

This one goes beyond social media accusations. Jacob wolf and Hunter Cooke investigated softgiving using tax records, contracts, correspondence and archived fundraising pages.

They reported that roughly 42% of $6.2 million raised across its 2020-2021 campaigns went toward softgiving’s commissions and expenses, including influencer fees, and documented inadequate disclosures. that percentage covers multiple campaigns and creators, not just otk.

otk participated in fundraising through the company and, according to the investigation, did not respond to requests for comment. Softgiving disputed the reporting. the investigation doesn’t establish that tips out personally pocketed donations, but it raises substantial questions about oversight and transparency at an organization he helps lead.

The investigation in question

September 2023 : the creator league blockchain controversy

otk was also involved in creator league, whose paid community passes used blockchain technology that wasn’t disclosed in the initial promotion. Tipsout said otk had been told there was no nft/crypto component.

The organizer acknowledged inadequate disclosure, disputed that the passes were nfts, postponed the league and offered refunds. another business partnership where the audience wasn’t initially given the full picture...and another reason to question the due diligence behind these promotions.

reporting and tips out’s response

The current forever tournament : accusations of protecting streamers over gold buying

Now commenters are questioning whether his tournament will actually enforce its gold-buying rules against prominent streamers. his announcement promises disqualification and lifetime bans for explicitly confirmed gold buying; critics argue that the wording leaves room for selective enforcement. one commenter also alleged that he was joking about gold buying with payo shortly before issuing the announcement.

The announcement and criticism

these incidents have different levels of evidence, but “people just randomly hate him” is a lazy dismissal of the history. Personally, i’m tired of the promotion and the expectation that another event should automatically earn him goodwill. organizing something for classic doesn’t put his conduct, partnerships or business judgment above scrutiny.

I genuinely believe the guy is an absolute POS, so beware of that guy.

I started leveling a Tauren on forever and I noticed the char fells different than usual. Can anyone tell me what is going on here?

One looks Gigachad, the other one looks like he needs to take a shit asap! Plus look at the weapon size.

I originally created AutoBiographer in 2019 and have used it to track my all my characters' adventures over the past 7 years, and I have updated it for WoW Forever with some exciting new features. You can track and replay your journeys and see your characters' progressions, view detailed stats and events, make notes & reminders, share your milestones with others, and more!

Download link: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/autobiographer

I would really appreciate anyone with beta access to test and report any issues or feedback. Thanks!

Major features include:

• Adventure journal: Keep a searchable history of your character’s achievements and experiences.
• Statistics and summaries: Explore combat, progression, economy, social, travel, and class-specific statistics.
• Map replay: Watch your recorded journey unfold on a map and see how your character's appearance has evolved throughout that journey.
• Gear history and snapshots: Revisit your equipment changes and character builds.
• Notes and player ratings: Keep account-wide notes about players, creatures, items, and quests, with note previews and player ratings in tooltips.
• Tasks and reminders: Create a personal checklist with inventory-based and location-based reminders.
• Milestones and storytelling: Celebrate milestones as they happen, and share stories about your accomplishments while resting at campfires.
• Automatic screenshots: Capture level-ups, boss kills, and achievements.
• Forever content indicators: Identify items and creatures added in WoW Forever through their tooltips.
• Unit history tooltips: See your recorded kill count for enemies, or your duel record and time grouped with friendly players.

I love dwarves. I think they're incredibly fun and a great vibe to play. The shape language they convey, the stout hard stoicness of them, their blockiness, their proportions; all of these things are extremely important to artistically convey, "ah yes; dwarf". All of these things are also unfortunately HALF wrong right now in WoW Forever.

Forever has done something wrong to them. The shape language of dwarves in Forever looks like a brick house supported by long stilts. I've been going back and forth playing both to compare the differences, and it all comes down to the lower body, and how it interacts with the classic animations.

As shown, the Era models use distinct blocky shape language to perfectly depict a stout dwarven silhouette. The Forever models stretch those shapes into long straight rectangles, and makes me feel more like a squished human than a dwarf. In addition, I feel the models in Forever are a couple inches taller, and this is especially accentuated if you look at the running animation. The model shrinks visibly to "fit into" the classic running animation.

I'd love to see these issues fixed before launch, it's a small thing, but so are dwarves themselves. That doesn't mean they don't matter. WASH YER BACK.

Here's the class matchup grid from the Forever Open qualifiers so far, built from the Raider.IO results. That's 2,000 of roughly 4,900 matches, so it will still move. Read it across: the class on the left against the class on top. The last column is each class against everyone.

Live version, updated every 15 minutes: lifeonazeroth.com (Forever Open tab). It also has spec win rates, winning talents, the talent trees everyone entered with, the current top 4 of each class, and every player with their record, spec and match history, searchable.

Some things that stand out:

• Warlocks are on top at 63%, just ahead of Paladins at 62%. That's not what the open-world duels I posted earlier showed: there, Hunters and Paladins had the best records and Warlocks were at 54%. But that same data showed Warlocks were the class that beat the top duelists most often, and that matches what's happening here.
• Hunters dropped the most, from 63% of the open-world duels I saw to 46% here.
• Druids went the other way, from 37% to 51%.
• Demonology is the best spec at 67%. 89% of Warlocks play it, and three out of four Warlocks entered with the exact same build, 5/21/0.

My guess at why: Paladins and Hunters are easier to play consistently, so they win a lot of everyday duels. Warlocks are harder but have a higher ceiling, and a tournament is full of players who can reach it.

Note: I'll make another post with the final grid once the qualifiers are over, unless I've fallen asleep by then. Either way the site will have the final numbers. Posting it now because there is a good chance I might fall asleep, toddler parenting is great but drains you.

Update: Just as I finished writing this post I see that the updated grid now has Paladins on top, a fierce race.

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