mostly everything is wrong. youre 100% arming the disc and your upper body isnt rotating at all. there is no lower body or hip engagement because the upper body is static.
look at how your shoulders move in the throw. they are pointing forward the entire throw.
my tip is to scrap the x step and do stand stills until youre able to actually get power from ground > legs > hips > upper body and make it all connect.
i think its a little too early for you to add steps based on what we see here yeah. working on getting some more of the fundamentals down properly will do you good for when its time to add steps!
Are you getting consistent results? If you are I wouldn't start over completely, but I'd look at one thing at a time. For me starting at the beginning of the throw makes the most sense, so I would work on understanding coil, loading, keeping your upper arm in front of you through release and pushing the disc away instead of reaching back.
But as the other response has said, it's a rebuild, I just wouldn't try to do it all at once. Fold in one change at a time
As others mentioned, it might be best to return to a standstill to work on more important aspects of your throw. Two biggest things I could see helping right now are keeping your elbow up throughout the throw, and focusing on not rounding. I think these would probably help with the hyzer release you're struggling with. Especially the elbow up part.
I don't even know if that's a hyzer release? OP's body is falling back and away, it's some sort of forced over anhyzer-twist. Lots of trying for a result at the end with a chain that's not aimed at what they're doing.
I was mostly going off what OP said. Rewatching the video a few times, I see what you mean but I also think we can see a good deal of the flight plate right after it leaves his hand.
I see that as well, I'm almost thinking it's an early release of that makes sense. I'm willing to bet that OP really yanks them right a long way when they hit the 10:00 hit point.
The disc should be oriented parallel to your forearm. Right now it's being held a little too low in the hand, and your wrist needs to be cocked downwards. Imagine you're holding out your hand to shake hands with someone. That's the wrist angle you need.
This can provide more spin for shorter finesse shots, but it otherwise robs you of energy and introduces timing issues that can lead to poor releases. You should be trying to keep your wrist ridgidly straight. You will fail at this as the disc's inertia will naturally bend your wrist during your pull, but that's what you want. Your resistance and that inertia will create spin at the hit.
Because of the lack of shoulder rotation, your throwing arm has no room to maneuver and you are forced to extend your arm away from your body rather than tight to your core.
6.) Because you don't transfer your weight onto your plant foot your chest is retreating rather than leading. This is going to give you a higher, more nose-up release. This, combined with the nose-up grip, is the primary reason you're getting a lot of hyzer on your throws.
A good throw should at least feel athletic, watch what good players bodies are doing and try to emulate. Try to record yourself in tighter clothing in slow motion so you can really see what’s going on. I’m not saying you should wear a body suit, but watching yourself in a baggy sweatshirt and jeans isn’t going to give you great feedback. Also, don’t play in jeans, they’re restrictive and limit your range of motion. If I want to wear long pants I wear my light weight hiking pants, Columbia has some good shit that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg.
Yeah I never play in jeans, my wife volunteered to record me after work lol. And fair point, I thought about it as I was posting that it's a pretty baggy sweatshirt
Phew, I know exactly one person who takes the game seriously and plays insanely good in jeans, and several others that are okay, but they just like to play, so I doubt they care. I’ve personally always hated it any time I have snuck in a round at lunch or immediately after work.
I mean, currently 966 rated, if it's cold I play in jeans. Granted it's 2026 and plenty of denim has decent stretch to it these days, but I would put my deep straddles as deep as anyone but Eliezra. If someone says jeans are limiting their motion, I would encourage them to honestly evaluate their own mobility as well.
I do have some limited mobility due to some underlying health problems, but that aside you can’t convince me that jeans do not restrict your movement. Denim has little yield, is thick, and much stiffer than a pair of lightweight hiking pants. Even with an under layer on beneath them you will still have more mobility than in jeans. I would wager this is true for 90+% of humans with legs.
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u/WhisperMeYourHentai 1d ago
i dont mean to be rude, but ill try to be blunt.
mostly everything is wrong. youre 100% arming the disc and your upper body isnt rotating at all. there is no lower body or hip engagement because the upper body is static.
look at how your shoulders move in the throw. they are pointing forward the entire throw.
my tip is to scrap the x step and do stand stills until youre able to actually get power from ground > legs > hips > upper body and make it all connect.