r/lovethissmug • Kept you waiting, huh? • 20d ago

🙋🏽‍♀️Other Real People or Groups 👨🏼 "How the hell does this even happen?"

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u/TruePianist 20d ago

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u/Bakugo312 20d ago

Are the guns affixed together by their bayonet slots?

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u/oofyeet21 20d ago

Yeah, the bayonet could lock into the slot either forwards or backwards, so it could be stowed easily when not in use. Unfortunately this meant it could lock into two bayonet slots at the same time and it could not be removed then. Later versions added an extra hole so you could still unlock the bayonet even if you were dumb enough to do this.

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u/Bakugo312 20d ago

Now how in the fuck does one achieve this?

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u/oofyeet21 20d ago

Soldiers dicking around while bored will find more flaws in a weapon system than a decade of R&D will.

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u/TheMerryMeatMan 20d ago

The average grunt is the most creatively inventive demographic you've ever seen. Unfortunately for their COs, they will exclusively use that talent to break shit, so the CO's job is to keep them leashed into they can find an enemy's shit to break, or said grunt learns how to direct themselves in that manner.

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u/VrsoviceBlues 19d ago

A Sapper friend of mine found his talent for such things being not only exploited but endorsed by Big Army. Somebody somewhere, after seeing that my buddy had managed to severely damage or comprehensively demolish several pieces of engineering equipment, arranged for him to be sent to Fort Nameiforgot, in Maryland I think it was, to spend six weeks driving test vehicles around and trying his best to break them. He described it as pure heaven, driving expensive government property into obstacles and ditches, off of small cliffs, into moving water, over ploughed fields and "car-killer" washboard roads, even seeing what sort of aggressive stupidity could roll the vehicle over and send it down a hill. He was, in effect, a human test dummy. Apparently he was told to imagine all the dumbest soldiers he'd ever served with, distill their fuckwittery down to it's purest essence, and do to these vehicles what Pvt. Snuffy would if given the chance. He was annoyed however, that he wasn't allowed to try out any explosives or EFPs- I think his professional pride as a Sapper was somewhat slighted by that, as well as his inner Adam Savage, which frankly was never very inner to begin with

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u/prinzeugn 15d ago

Aberdeen Proving Ground sounds like.

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u/Bakugo312 20d ago

Makes sense somehow

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u/knurttbuttlet 20d ago

It's probably why the US military refuses to adopt anything other than an AR platform now that I think about it

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u/Bakugo312 20d ago

Good god

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u/IronVader501 20d ago

The best way to find out every single way an object can break is to hand it to bored young men.

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u/Firewolf06 20d ago

sit on watch bored as hell for hours with another 18-20 year old

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u/Kaarl_Mills 19d ago

If you lock a marine inside a room with a random object and come back in four hours, the object will be lost broken or impregnated

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u/Opening_Ordinary_110 19d ago

I did this with the flute section in highschool (yes flute heads got stuck in the end of other flutes). When you're bored and curious, you fuck around with things

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u/Foostini 19d ago

To add on to the other replies, they called it the French Finger Trap like those ones you'd get at arcades or fairs as a kid. The bayonet itself is pretty nasty, fairly long as as cruciform in shape and incredibly sharp. The rifle itself is the MAS-36, i've got a 36/51, gorgeous rifle.

Edit: I guess if i just scrolled a bit further i'd see someone else explain it but hey.

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u/NameRevolutionary727 19d ago

As Mark Twain said “if you make something foolproof they’ll invent a better fool”

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u/whatfappenedhere 16d ago

You underestimate the ingenuity of the bored grunt

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u/MeChamamDeTigre 19d ago

In the revised version you had to touch the tips to release them

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u/FirmOnion 20d ago

They had to add a release button elsewhere on the rifle, as when two rifles locked together like this they couldn't be separated

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u/Dude__Fortune 16d ago

First rule of engineering: If it's not supposed to go there, don't let it fit there.

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u/endergamer2007m 20d ago

I give you the french finger trap

Two MAS 36s conjoined at the bayonet

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u/ZoidsFanatic 20d ago

So they had to redesign the bayonet connection to prevent this from happening… and it only happened because two soldiers thought it would be hilarious.

Not even the designer of the rifle considered anyone would be stupid enough to ruin their rifle like this

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u/endergamer2007m 20d ago

Tbf soldiers are the best stress testing because only soldiers could think of such bullshit

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u/oofyeet21 20d ago

I always go back to the trial of a robot built to detect soldiers, and multiple marines beat it by: cartwheeling, crawling, and hiding in a cardboard box.

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u/YomamaCooper69 20d ago

Kojima strikes again

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u/MagiStarIL 19d ago

Robot built to detect soldiers, fooled by a soldier in a box

Maybe he wasn't that dumb after all

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u/rettani 19d ago

I think I have encountered that story somewhere.

If you have source of that story can you provide a link

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u/ThomasKlausen 20d ago

The Brits call it "squaddie-proofing" and it's generally considered a theoretical ideal, not something that can be achieved in the real world. Soldiers can destroy anything. Bored soldiers are somehow worse. 

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u/Shleeves90 15d ago

Leave a pair or junior enlisted soldiers alone in a locked room with three bowling balls and strick instructions not to touch the bowling balls. Come back in an hour and the soldiers will have somehow lost one, broken one, and fucked one.

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u/Onlyhereforapost 20d ago

That last statement right there is why engineers are engineers and soldiers are soldiers

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u/Grievous_Nix 20d ago

“The problem with making anything idiot-proof is that they keep making better idiots”

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u/-DOOKIE 20d ago

I don't know anything about guns. Why can't it be disconnected

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u/Autonomous-Trash 20d ago

They’re connected by the part of the rifle that is used to mount the bayonet. There’s a kind of button the operator would press to release the bayonet from storage position in a tube under the barrel, and then you put the bayonet on that mounting point. To release, you press the same button. This image shows what happens when you attach Gun A to Gun B’s bayonet while Gun B’s bayonet is in storage position. The release buttons on both become inaccessible.

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u/-DOOKIE 20d ago

the release buttons become inaccessible

Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for

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u/ZoidsFanatic 20d ago

Because it wasn’t made to do that. They basically got the guns stuck by docking.

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u/InsectaProtecta 15d ago

There's two release buttons on the bayonet but if you lock a gun on both ends both the buttons become impossible to press and they can't be unstuck without breaking them

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u/zekromNLR 20d ago

They didn't redesign it to prevent you from sticking two of them together

They just drilled an additional hole to let you press the bayonet release when stuck together

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u/Fun_Assignment_269 20d ago

I have two of these (with the modification to allow detachment). It's funny as hell to dock them. Brilliant rifle and almost junior enlisted proof, but that was a big oversight.

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u/Piggster30 18d ago

Gun frotting

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u/Prophet_of_Fire 17d ago

Being born like that must really hamper their chances of survival in nature, how often do conjoined ones like this reach maturity?

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u/ToasterInYourBathtub 20d ago

Out here with that "10 Strength 1 Intelligence" build.

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u/AdElectronic4912 20d ago

Should just throw the bullets.

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u/Voidlord597 20d ago

65% more bullet per bullet

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u/Random_nerd_52 20d ago

That’s the Marine Corps for ya

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u/Civil_Tip8845 20d ago

i dont get it, i dont know guns

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u/FriendlyHoovie Kept you waiting, huh? 20d ago edited 20d ago

A marine somehow jammed an entire clip into a magazine. That strip of metal by the bullet shouldn't be there. A clip is basically a small strip of metal that hold together several bullets, not the same thing as a magazine, which is basically a box that holds bullets.

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u/Kajetus06 20d ago

A marine

Well theres your answer why he did that

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u/WestNomadOnYT 20d ago

God bless our crayon-eating troops

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u/Kinosa07 20d ago

Tbh those bullets look like crayon, so I wouldn@t be surprised if the reason the bullet doesn't fire is because there is no primer in the colored carbon

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u/Defiant-Smell-9686 19d ago

I was in the army working as a unit armorer and had a cadet come in to use some of our ARs. When they delivered one back after cleaning?
They had managed to jam the bolt in backwards

The loud metal banging I had heard moment before made perfect sense as soon as I saw it.

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u/56Bagels 20d ago

I’m just here to say that this example picture is hilarious and also very inclusive for any marines who stumbled onto this part of the internet.

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u/Feuershark 20d ago

nah he's a genius he converted a double stack into a single stack with one single trick

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u/Benchrant 20d ago

As far as I know you’re supposed to use the clip to load the magazine by ramming the bullets into the mag, not the full thing (see the raid at the bottom of the bullet)

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u/PromptNo4041 20d ago

or on some rifles like bolt actions, that new pistol from a year ago, the Autocannon from Helldivers 2 uses a clip, etc.

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u/slappadabass44 20d ago edited 19d ago

A clip is always used to load a magazine. You can't have one without another.

Edit: I worded this poorly, my apologies. I meant that even when a gun is reloaded via a clip, it still has a magazine. The clip is used to load the magazine. I wrote that because there is a misconception that weapon loaded primarily with clips (like WW2 rifles) don't use magazines but use clips. In reality the clip is simply used to load the magazine.

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u/Mrjerkyjacket 20d ago

I mean you can load a magazine without a clip no? Like you can just put them in by hand and self tension it, I dont think it would be super great, but I am of the understanding that you can do it.

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u/Donatter 20d ago edited 20d ago

You can, and in fact.

That’s the “default” method of loading bullets into a magazine, clips, and belts. (You just plop em in, one by one)

Which depending on the gun and magazine, can range from being tedious but easy, to rage inducing and impossible without a loading tool.

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u/Naive_Personality367 20d ago

With 5.56 i used to line the bullets up and wedge the mag down on top of them, super fast, impressed a few people with my ingenuity lol

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u/please_use_the_beeps 20d ago

Trying to load a tiny .380 mag with my sausage fingers was one of my more difficult shooting experiences. That and trying to get that 17th .45 round into the Glock mag.

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u/Donatter 20d ago

Mine is loading my 22’s 60rd drum past the 28th bullet.

(Plus, my friend’s original P08 Luger, which is legitimately impossible without some kind of loading tool)

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u/DisIsMyName_NotUrs 19d ago

Getting the 17th round into my Arex Delta while the spring is still new is an effort in futility

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u/slappadabass44 20d ago

Yes, absolutely. Sorry for confusion

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u/RaceHate 20d ago

Super-Redditor comment here, but some rifles do take clips alone.

Right?

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u/FriendlyHoovie Kept you waiting, huh? 20d ago

Yeah, some have internal magazines that you just push the clip into. Examples include the m1 garand, C96 Mauser Pistol, speed loaders for revolvers, etc.

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u/RaceHate 20d ago

Thanks!

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u/FuckenRedit 20d ago

Just to fuck with everyone, any rifle is a clip rifle if your magazine is a clipazine.

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u/Careless_Tap_516 19d ago

What is the purpose of being able to do that to the front of the magazine?

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u/FuckenRedit 19d ago

I dont actually know, i think it might be easier to load. Or even to top up in the gun itself. But honestly i dont think there is a point here.

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u/Kain_713 20d ago

Well that's not true at all.

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u/dumbass_paladin 20d ago

You absolutely can. Magazines can be, and often are, loaded one round at a time, both on modern detachable magazines and older internal magazines

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u/AppearanceIll3922 20d ago

Do you see the thin metal thing in between the bullets and the magazine. That helps load bullets faster by holding them while you put them in. He forced the whole way thing in their.

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u/Joe2_0 20d ago

Clip is a thing used to load a magazine.

Mauser clips (aka stripper clips) have the rounds stripped off the clip into the magazine by pressing downward, and the clip is then removed.

Mannlicher clips (aka Enbloc clips) have the entire clip inserted into the magazine, where the function as an integral part of the magazine until empty and are automatically discarded.

To wit, this guy Enbloc’d a stripper clip.

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u/foxydash 20d ago

The United States Military issues 5.56 in ten round clips, which can be used with a feeder to speed load the rounds into a STANAG magazine relatively quickly.

In this case the clip, that strip of metal in the magazine, was not loaded with it - and the Marine managed to jam the entire fucking clip into the magazine, cartridges and all, seemingly damaging the feed lips and fucking the magazine in the process.

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u/erttheking 20d ago

I think he put the round in backwards by brute force

Imagine someone putting a square peg in a round hole with a claw hammer

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u/Inevitable-Regret411 20d ago

This is what happens if you don't keep them supplied with enough crayons to keep them occupied. They do things like this. 

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u/Crewarookie 20d ago

The mantra of "if you try to invent a foolproof design the universe will just invent a bigger fool" can be applied to anything, especially dumb 18 y. o. given a rifle to take care of.

Maybe he knew how M1s are reloaded from games and movies (it's probably the most iconic reload visual in history), but never saw anyone reload a standard mag on a modern automatic rifle, as tbh, that isn't shown in media all that much, just the mag switches usually.

So he just jammed the clip inside of it. I'm still not entirely sure how he managed to do it without any questions arising such as "why is it so hard to do this!?",but then again, universe finds a way.

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u/Technical_Teacher839 19d ago

To paraphrase someone: If the military issued a standard issue rock, it'd take less than an hour before two grunts come to their sergeant with their rocks either fused together or broken in half

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u/DevolvingSpud 15d ago

“Hey sarge, what do we lean our MREs on now?”

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u/TheMerryMeatMan 20d ago

Reminds me of the story about how the French discovered you could get the original design of the MAS-36 to render 2 rifles inoperable with just the bayonet clips.

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u/Janosfaces 18d ago

At work I got a knew boxcutter, the model is called the "Secupro Megasafe" it took me about 5 minutes to cut myself with it.

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u/Crewarookie 18d ago

And that's why as a product designer you never guarantee shit for fuck...but cool names promoting relative safety are fine 🤗

A tangent, but I think semi-relevant:

I remember my first experience in B2B project management. I was like a month or two in.

I made a mistake of pronouncing a form of the word "guarantee" during a routine call outside the context that calls for it, such as "money back guarantee", where there is a described clause for the "guarantee".

Damn did I have a lecture to listen to from our CEO on why I shouldn't do that. Can't guarantee shit for fuck to anyone unless you have a defined contract for the listed guarantee. That's a rule for life. But especially for business.

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 20d ago

I guffaw as the image scrolls onto my screen. The mispelt words, the rhyming, the limerick-like qualities, and the humourous scenario engulfs me in a feeling of comedy and ecstasy. "Oh my!" I say to myself. "Þis marine is quite a mooncalf! How does such a situation occur‽" My good wife asks me why I pronounced the symbol "thorn" and the puncuation mark "interrobang" outloud. She clearly doesn't understand the comedic properties of this image, and that the troglodyte-like nature of the image obviously would provoke such feelings of superiority within me. I throw a soup spoon at her.

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u/Funnym4ne 20d ago

im glad you liked it, mr. shakespeare!

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 20d ago

I throw a fruit, as a gift, at you. Do not resist.

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u/PromptNo4041 20d ago

I'LL CATCH IT!

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 20d ago

"You aren't the target of that gift!," I shout. "Have at thee!" I throw another apple towards the thief; not as a gift, but as a weapon. It has been filled with tungsten.

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u/PromptNo4041 20d ago

FREEZE! I'M AN UNDERCOVER COP!

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 20d ago

"Dear Heavens..." I mutter to myself. "How have I let my rage consume me so?" And I say it rightfully. I have thrown a soup spoon at my lovely wife, I have thrown fruit towards my admirer like they had performed poorly, and now, I am being arrested after assaulting a man of service. Is this all I deserve? Do I deserve worse? Do I deserve better? I may never learn. Perhaps, I'll change. I'll change and become the human being deserving of being able to write out these words. Perhaps, I spiral more. I spiral and become seperated from reason. I fear both. Both will lead to me, the self, dying. The person sitting here, writing this message, will no longer exist within a few days. No matter if the outcome is good or bad. There is something to learn from this. But it is not my fate to comprehend it, it yours, dear reader and admirer.

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 17d ago

yo wtf i got jesus awarding me

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u/drugsgebruik 16d ago

absolute cinema

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u/Voidy_boi 20d ago

That goddam berdly pfp is taking over you like the green Goblin mask

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u/IdiotyMcIdiotface 20d ago

My individual which I have a neutral opinion of, you are ignorant to the ways of thesaurusmaxxing, as the infants of today would call it.

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u/TheGreaterClaush 20d ago

Thank you burgley for the input I value it a lot

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u/FirmOnion 20d ago

This reads like a section of diskworld

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u/violetcassie 20d ago

"Hey wanna see an NCO turn a shade of red that would put the Chinese flag to shame?"

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u/No_Tomorrow_8108 20d ago

Hohoho most humorous this one

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u/timsayscalmdown 20d ago

Legitimately impressive

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u/BaronMerc 20d ago

Grunts will always find a way to break shit in ways we don't know how

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u/Funnym4ne 20d ago

too much crayons clouded his judgement, and he inserted the whole clip on the mag

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u/Fluffinator44 20d ago

For a hot second I thought he loaded it with .50 Beowulf.

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u/purblepale 20d ago

After I first saw this image on a different subreddit I would spontaneously start laughing thinking about it while doing stuff

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u/TheMrKablamo 20d ago

Ohh i know one. In the swiss army you get issued a huge suitcase dubbed by soldiers as the "mothership" or muschi for short (which means cunt). These suitcases have each a handle that broadly extends to its rolls. Now the funny thing is you can take the whole thing of so you only have the handle and rolls part and somehow it was engineered that way so you can perfectly link two of those together creating a make shift kart.

I think there are videos on on youtube.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l5SI2hz1HM8?is=ozoi9yhSrNh5-7JC

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u/grafknives 20d ago

Private, pass me the clip, I mean, the magazine!

Sir, yes sir!

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u/PinkcheeseStudios 20d ago

What's up with the green bullets?

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u/ryno7926 20d ago

M855. It is/was they standard issue 5.56x45mm ammunition for the military. The Army replaced it with M855A1 around 2016 but idk if the other branches have made the switch. It has a 62 grain bullet with a mild steel penetrator so if buy some you shouldn't shoot it at steel targets as it has an increased chance of damaging the target and/or causing ricochets.

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u/PinkcheeseStudios 20d ago

so... Why'd the magazine get stuck?

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u/Mac-And-Cheesy-43 19d ago

He jammed the whole thing (bullet container and all) into the gun. That's not supposed to go in there. It would be like asking someone to make you a bowl of cereal, and you come back to a box of cheerios folded until it could fit.

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u/Time_Traveling_Idiot 19d ago

LMAO I remember how we had to collect and count the empty shells by "re-loading" them into the metal tabs. Unbelievable how he got that jammed in there.

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u/Code_Warrior 19d ago

I presume that he disassembled the magazine, put the rounds and stripper clip into the magazine from the bottom, then reassembled.

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u/Mammoth_Elk_2105 20d ago

It's just green paint at the tip, the color indicates the type of ammunition. In this case, the standard service round which has a steel insert for better penetration. Not technically considered armor-piercing ammunition though.

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u/Local-Veterinarian63 19d ago

I believe the term they like to use for it is barrier penetrating rather than armor penetrating.

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u/0utcast9851 19d ago

I refuse to believe this

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u/Bdoggy2017 18d ago

Nah, seems legit to me. If they don’t k ow what the hell they’re doing, then the enemy doesn’t.

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u/cornercrouchmode 19d ago

Duality of man or some shit.

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u/Epicat224 20d ago

Clipazine

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u/LourdeInc 20d ago

You can never make anything foolproof because fools are ingenious

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u/Bdoggy2017 18d ago

If you make something fool proof, they’re just gonna build a better fool.

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u/owo1215 19d ago

took me a second to see the clip lmao

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u/No_Print77 19d ago

not a marine, definitely a recruit at edson range per that PMI hat, the dead grass, and the mistake only a retarded recruit could make

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u/PotentialConcert6249 18d ago

I don’t have much experience with guns. I’m guessing the bullet is in there backwards?

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u/Ihatetobaghansleighs 18d ago

Dude shoved a stripper clip into the magazine, not supposed to do that

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u/PotentialConcert6249 18d ago

How did it even fit?

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u/Ihatetobaghansleighs 18d ago

I have no idea lol he must have really wanted it to fit

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u/NuclearWasteland 16d ago

Stupidity is very persuasive.

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u/Main_Juggernaut2686 16d ago

There is kinda space for it and it goes in surprisingly easily. If you use a defect speed loader you won't barely feel it happen. It just feel smooth instead of bumpy.

But they are a nightmare to get up again because the rounds acts like barbs.

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u/benkaes1234 15d ago

Because if you give a Marine a stick, a rifle, an anvil, and orders to touch nothing, you'll come back two weeks later to find they've broken the anvil.

In short, "Marines just gotta fuck with shit..."

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u/Scissi 18d ago

No, I don't have any experience either, but I think he forced a clip (a few bullets held with a metal piece at the end, which you're supposed to push into the gun WITHOUT THE METAL PIECE) into the magazine, WITH the metal piece.

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u/PotentialConcert6249 18d ago

Oh dang, I think you’re right.

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u/Bdoggy2017 18d ago

A marine will always marine.

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u/MARVNSFINEST 18d ago

You could wiggle that out of there with a good pair of multitool pliers, probably.

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u/Lilbootytobig 17d ago

Funny enough, it's not that hard to do. If you were ever part of a mag loading party on range day, you probably came close to doing this yourself. The rounds come out of the box attached to stripper clips, along with a tool called a speed loader. It's basically a little guide that sits on top of the mag so you can set the clip on it and press all the rounds into the mag at once. After a while the guide gets loose because it's made of cheap pressed metal, and if you've got a banged up mag, when you press the rounds in, the whole clip slides in with them. And that's how you get this image

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u/Barley672 14d ago

Damn, I’m out of clipazines!

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u/phearless047 14d ago

HOW?!?!?!