r/mildlyinfuriating • u/SensitiveExtremity • Sep 01 '26

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Sliding the comment card left and right both shows AI crap instead of just the comments. Just give me human interactions ffs.

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u/MrBahhum Sep 01 '26

I dislike how AI is forced into everything.

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u/LittleWolfiez Sep 01 '26

Is a toggle too much to ask for? (Yes, apparently.)

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u/Chief_Mischief Sep 01 '26

It is intentional because these companies are burning through cash to develop it. They need to demonstrate to shareholders that usage of their models are growing to justify the costs.

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u/thekrone Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

Modern day investors don't care if stuff is good. They don't care if it works. They don't even care if people like it. They actually don't even care if people use it.

They only care if the perceived value of the company goes up. That's it. They want to buy shares low and sell high.

They don't care if the company is set up for long-term success, as long as they can sell their shares for more than they bought them for. In fact, if the company crashes after they sell (especially if they can short it right before the crash) and they can buy back in at a lower price again, that's great for them.

Forcing AI into things builds investor hype. It doesn't matter if it's good or it works or anyone wants it. Saying "we added AI to our products" is enough for the stock to go up.

Investors like hearing "AI", so we get AI.

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u/Massive_Town_8212 Sep 01 '26

Really like that "perceived value". SpaceX talked a big game about mining asteroids for nearly infinite money, along with also folding Twitter and Grok into the company, and apparently that makes them the most valuable company on the planet ever? Even though they're not really showing any actual growth?

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u/Low-Condition4243 Sep 01 '26

Stock market is just a scheme for capitalists to gain ever growing power and form monopolies on everything. We’re at the stage now where monopolies are buying out monopolies.

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u/Massive_Town_8212 Sep 02 '26

To be fair AND balanced, it's not a monopoly, there are 3 companies per industry.

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u/AmbiDenxter3 Sep 02 '26

Oligopoly, not a good thing still

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u/Thesa_Arde Sep 02 '26

If corporations are people then they are also allowed to form polycules if everyone consents. This is what liberals want. /s obviously

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u/TooObsessedWithMoney Sep 01 '26

I'm reminded of events covered in movies such as the Big Short or Margin Call where everyone is fine with smelling their own farts because they make fat stacks because of it.

This is not sustainable.

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u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260 Sep 01 '26

The whole stock market is a fucking pyramid scheme. Buy something from a poor fucker to sell it for more to a different poor fucker.

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u/blazze_eternal Sep 01 '26

They only care if the perceived value of the company goes up.

And they want it to go up as quickly as possible! Stability is an afterthought, or even worse a weakness implying stagnation.

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u/thekrone Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

In fact a lot of them will just ride the wave until it seems like the company is going to nose dive, then cash out and short it.

They'll pressure the board into making decisions which might cause the stock price to jump short-term, but will hurt long-term viability of the company. Then when the pressure they applied to make bad long-term decisions starts to hurt the company, they'll cash out before the stock tanks and buy shorts so they profit from the stock tanking as well.

And then if the company doesn't go completely under and starts to stabilize, the investors will buy back in while the stock is low in order to do it all again.

It's all about making their own personal line go up as quickly as possible. They do not care what gets destroyed in their wake.

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u/ARM_vs_CORE Sep 01 '26

The chase for consistent unending quarterly growth at all costs unironically is what will end human civilization. Infinite growth is impossible and the reckless pursuit of it at the cost of the environment, the climate, and society will be the end of us. Trump is a cancerous symptom of our broken society.

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u/midir Sep 01 '26

Modern day investors don't care if stuff is good. They don't care if it works. They don't even care if people like it. They actually don't even care if people use it.

They only care if the perceived value of the company goes up. That's it. They want to buy shares low and sell high.

This makes a depressing amount of sense.

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u/Infshadows Sep 02 '26

this is why open source apps and private companies (like steam) arent shit

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u/Chief_Mischief Sep 01 '26

I personally think capitalism is great and that we should be allowed to invest in companies.

That being said, I also acknowledge that we are in a form of late-stage capitalism that is so deregulated that it no longer serves a purpose that can be compatible with environmental sustainability. We have seen the SEC, EPA, CFPB, FTC, OSHA, etc all defanged and sabotaged over the decades. We also have outright corruption and bribery via corporate PACs and lobbying.

Capitalism works best in a well-regulated environment with a government that actually gives a shit about the environment, consumers, laborers, etc.

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u/Massive_Town_8212 Sep 01 '26

I like being able to buy stuff too, and would also like to invest in things I believe in. However, my issues with capitalism of gestures broadly, all that is by design. Attempt to regulate capitalists and they'll just take over the government, like they already have. Give it more time and we'll see the return of robber barons shooting strikers with their own private armies.

Hell, we almost had an actual fascist coup d'etat because of the New Deal. FDR saved people over companies, and capitalists wanted his head. That was partially aided by Prescott Bush, granddaddy to Dubya whose dad's foreign policy fostered the conditions for 9/11 to happen and allowed him to implement the Patriot Act and send thousands of our people to their graves in decades of constant war.

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u/Teehus Sep 02 '26

That is just the logical consequence of capitalism. Capitalism in its core is about growth and getting as much money as possible. Sure, governments can put boundaries on it, but the companies will try their best to undermine those regulations or get rid of them, and if other countries don't implement similar regulations their companies will (most likely) outperform those who have to abide regulations.

Investing in companies these days just keeps that behaviour going, the investors want to see their money grow and that (mainly) happens through grows of the company. The shares normal people buy are so small percentage wise that as an individual you can barely even claim to have any stakes in the company. Not to mention that you didn't actually invest in the company, the original buyer did, you just paid the previous person who owned the stock money.

Capitalism is a deeply flawed and unsustainable system based on greed. If you have morals you'll (most likely) never make it to the top.

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u/robotmayo Sep 01 '26

Capitalism works best in a well-regulated environment with a government that actually gives a shit about the environment, consumers, laborers, etc.

I mean then its no longer capitalism at that point which is why capitalist are very against regulation.

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u/composedofidiot Sep 01 '26

They forget that pure capitalism requires a level playing field.

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u/prototip99 Sep 03 '26

Graph must go up and to the right. Nothing else matters

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u/kubin22 Sep 02 '26

thats cause for shareholders only important thing is if the revenue is going up at this moment nothing else, oh company got ruined, well time to cash out and buy shares somewhere else.

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u/thekrone Sep 01 '26

"Yes we spent millions of dollars developing this AI system that no one asked for, but look! We have great usage numbers! Everyone is using the functionality!"

Without mentioning they didn't give anyone a choice.

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u/Ezzaskywalker_11 Sep 02 '26

how do they even began to develop it if it's ass

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u/Chaosmusic Sep 02 '26

Look, we have 100% engagement! (because we do not offer the option to not have it)

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u/Ok-Preparation7664 Sep 01 '26

im not an economics expert but surely theres at least a singular shareholder who can make the connection that forcing everyone to use something != people are willingly using it more

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u/Liu_Fragezeichen Sep 01 '26

this isn't true - usage is growing naturally, and faster than any provider can keep up with. professional / business and development token spend is growing sixfold every quarter and all major providers are overwhelmed to the point of regular service outages.

the simple explanation is likely the true one: the people who build these apps and services use AI daily, going through literal billions of tokens in agentic workflows in hours. they only see the benefit, and it is massive for them. they're genuinely excited about it. no conspiracy needed.

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u/Jaded-Asparagus-2260 Sep 01 '26

Except that all of these tokens and all of this usage results in a huge loss for the AI companies. Once they have to ask for realistic prices, usage will plummet again.

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u/Mister_Anonym Sep 01 '26

Ah yes the sunken cost fallacy

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u/NicholasWildeRails Sep 01 '26

I guarantee it is.

They know AI is unprofitable for them and that no one wants it. But instead of just letting it go, they try forcing it onto us to make the money they burn seem worth it

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u/NicholasWildeRails Sep 01 '26

All we can hope is AI becomes so unprofitable for these companies that they decide to ditch it

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u/Beneficial-Otter Sep 02 '26

and hopefully the stocks market will crash and everything will be affordable again

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u/Tsamane Sep 01 '26

And when there is a toggle, its very hidden opt out, not a opt in.

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u/BigBananaBerries Sep 01 '26

They're trying to normalise it to the point we're dependent on it & any critical thinking is subscription based. It's sinister AF what they're trying to achieve.

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u/HighKing_of_Festivus Sep 01 '26

They need to increase the usage metrics to justify the costs to investors

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u/Unoriginal_Man Sep 01 '26

That's what killed me with Google recently arguing for their need to expand datacenters because they saw a massive increase in usage, and all I could think was "well yeah, you just replaced Assistant with Gemini on millions of devices with no way to opt out".

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u/stiff_tipper Sep 01 '26 edited Sep 01 '26

this doesn't really make sense

google is selling compute to other companies, and they've got a backlog to the tune of $400,000,000,000. on top of increasing yoy (year over year) quarterly revenue by insane percentages

google can not keep up with demand for the compute they provide. they're borrowing money to build more to just be able to accept the cash that customers are trying to hand them, they are beyond successful at this particular point in time. they're not the ones needing to farce up the whole thing like some other companies

e: keep in mind, google literally started this whole ai thing. their transformer architecture white paper enabled openai to create chatgpt (google said they thought the "hallucinations" were too risky to go public with, sam altman didn't give a fuck tho). they own the entire ai stack from top to bottom. the TPUs, the data centers, the algorithms, the devices it all runs on... if anybody wins at ai it's not unlikely that it's gonna be google

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u/coffee-bat Sep 01 '26

i'm pretty sure it's sunk cost fallacy. they can't admit how much they invested into this shit, so now they're shoving it everywhere to "justify" the wasted money.

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u/ichigo2862 Sep 01 '26

Look how many people are forced into using it!! Give me more billions please

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u/VideoGameAficionado Sep 01 '26

Trying to justify the cost, and value of it all.

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u/Sombomombo Sep 01 '26

Makes too much sense how these AI designers are stereotypically single.

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u/kubin22 Sep 02 '26

it's so they can show share holders how everyone is using it

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u/TheBlanc2 Sep 02 '26

Even fast food chains apps deliberately shoving ai 'features' just so they could get hold of more money

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u/schmurfy2 Sep 02 '26

As a genius said recently: "if we make it an opt-in, nobody would do it", it sums it well 😞

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u/im_not_creative123 Sep 01 '26

Their hope is that enough people when forced to use it, will get used to AI "helping" them with things like search, so eventually they can sell it to them

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u/Windfade Sep 01 '26

If it's like most inconvenient changes, the youngest generation will hit the Internet in five or so years filling the top comments with "Why are you still complaining? This is the best way to do things and you know it."

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u/INfusion2419 Sep 01 '26

People on the internet are guided by comfort and ease of access, if its there right in front of you, you'll use it. Most people still don't use adblockers, and 99% of people still use youtube, despite there being big talks of movement in the later 2010's all that came of it was banned youtubers moving to alternate sites and becoming even more unknown.

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u/-2Braincells Sep 05 '26

But guys if it was opt in no one would opt in, so they need to force it into everything. Otherwise how would they be able to justify the millions they put into ai? /s

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u/Majestic-Year-1963 Sep 09 '26

I hate them so much. I hope they get a horrible of jock itch.

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u/Avlin_Starfall Sep 01 '26

And they can say people are using it when we actually aren't. Anything to justify wasting billions of dollars, destroying the environment, and the economy.