Sucks that we never even once got to see her Husband...

I’ve seen the show more times than I can count, and upon my latest rewatch I picked up on something I haven’t seen before. Obviously we know Olenna was behind it, but it wasn’t after reading the books that I thought to be aware of the moment she gets the poison off Sansas necklace. I just saw that they included it in the show! To some people it may have been obvious, but I guess I never thought to pay much attention to her hands at that moment, so I’m just blown away that it’s been there all along and I never saw.

I feel like that’s the beauty of rewatching though, there’s always a new Easter egg I didn’t pick up on before, and small details to reveal themselves. Just wanted to share my joy in realising, and wondering if most people already knew or if a lot of you were like me, and it was a moment that passed you by.

Who was the preferred King in the North for you?

I see Robb Stark as a bit more suited to the role than Jon Snow, he has more of a "Stark aura".

What about you?

{SPOILER} Had Tommen not offed himself.. who would have been next in line to marry him and become queen after Margaery? On my third rewatch and there aren’t any obvious choices I can think of. Samwell’s sister, maybe?

This is my first watching of Game of Thrones, and I simply had to pause it. After so many seasons away, a wildling just so happen to see Benjen? What is this writing??? I will watch on, but I simply cannot belive such a strange writing choice would be made this late into the show.

Robert seems to have let himself go after becoming king - no fighting left to do and his beloved (in his eyes) dead, so he appears to have just got drunk, paid for sex, gone hunting, hosted tournaments, for the rest of his life.

I get that he didn't want to rule and wanted adventures, but were there really none left for him to have? Or have I misunderstood him and he was just lazy?

He could have explored the uncharted parts of the world. He could have dealt with the wildling attacks, the iron islands (properly - so they change their way of life and not continue raiding again), if he'd gone far North he might even have found the white walkers.

For all his faults, at least he didn't start pointless wars.

I'm rewatching GOT. I'm at the end of S6, starting S7.

I see comments about Cersei becoming queen at the end of S6, saying that wouldn't happen.

But who is left to challenge her? Everyone just saw her blow up the church, kill her uncle, cousin, daughter in law, many people of the court, etc.

Who is supposed to challenge her before Dany gets there?

I work at a car dealership my business has nothing related to Game of Thrones or the Looney Toons but this is awesome and I didn't know where else to post it

I am a huge huge fan of GOT. I have watched all the 8 seasons 6 to 7 times. My favourite characters from the series are Jon Snow and Lord Tyrion

Me and my roommate were so into the series that we literally started using the terms and dialogues in our day to day lives. One example of it is shared by me when I labelled our rooms

I just rewatched The Long Night episode S8E3 and it triggered a set of evidence and a conclusion.
I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but it was new to me.

All of the book-prominent faiths are represented at Winterfell, and they all fight against the Army of the Dead.
>!The Lord of Light, represented by Melisandre, gives magic fire to the swords of the Dothraki and lights the trenches aflame to halt the enemy advance. Both are snuffed out in short order by the Night King's horde!<.
>!The Seven, repped by Jaime and Brienne and any other Knights present, combine with the Old Gods of the North for the castle defense, and are overwhelmed.!<
>!The Iron Islanders defending Bran in the Godswood represent the Drowned God, and get swamped!<.

>!Arya, the Faceless Man of the House of Black and White is the one who vanquishes the Night King!<.
>!Why? Because for thousands of years the Night King had been defying the true god. He had been keeping the dead from the God of Death.!<
>!Arya slaying the Night King returned thousands of souls to the God of Death!<.

Im reading dance and Tyrion is talking to the 2 guys from Griff. The one guy asks him how Swann died. He tells him about the mirror shield. Whether it was syrax or vhagear doesn't matter to me. But Shireen also tells the same story to Davis in the show. And so ive heard it before but I also don't remember it from fire and blood and unless it was in the last couple episodes of season 3 it wasn't in the show. And also, I've never heard anyone talk about in here or in tbe Fandom.

So what's tbe story with mirror shield guy? Did tbsi happen? When did it happen?

in season 4 ep 1 of game of thrones sandor tells arya he doesn't steal and has a code.. although 5 minutes later he tries to steal chicken from the bar, like 2 episodes before he knocks a guy out and steals his food cart, and later that season he steals food and i think also horses from the dad and his daughter???

the writers were pretty competent at this point in the show so i feel it has to be intentional, but i can't really imagine why??? i know people can lie, obviously, but it didn't feel like they put that line in just so say he's a hypocrite, so what's the logic?

He had such a great journey and character development, only to end up dying to an overpowered, zombified monster. It left a bad taste in my mouth. His revenge arc against the Mountain no longer felt satisfying at that point because Gregor was already dead and had essentially been turned into a mindless monster by Qyburn. There was no real sense of justice or closure in it.

As bad as the ending of GoT was, it would have at least left a somewhat sweeter taste in my mouth if Sandor had survived and been given a meaningful role afterward, perhaps as a sworn protector of Bran or even as a lord in the city watch or kingsguard.

When discussing what Robb could have done different, many people say that if they were Robb they’d just do the marriage then and there, forgetting that Walder Frey did not want this.

Normally when these sorts of alliances are made, yes the marriage comes first. In Robert’s Rebellion Hoster Tully joined the rebels only after Ned and Jon Arryn married his daughters. In the “alliance” with Drogo the marriage to Dany came first. Because that’s how committing to a side works. When Catelyn is relaying Walder’s terms, she says that, regarding Robb’s betrothal, he will marry “once the fighting is done.”

Because the truth of it is Walder never fully committed. Commiting would involve actually having the marriage done then and there. He didn’t want to, and never has in any conflict because he’s a weasel. If, after the Battle of Blackwater Bay Robb said “Hey Walder, I’d really like to marry one of your daughters,” do you think he would’ve said “yes Robb, glory to House Stark, let’s have a bloody good wedding at my place!”? No, he would’ve said “heh, that’s not the deal we made. Wouldn’t want to break your word to me now, would you boy?”

Also, as for Robb potentially pressing the issue to have the marriage happen then and there, he was never going to do that. His battle plan relied on speed. He’s in a lord’s castle, not Vegas, he couldn’t just have a quickie wedding officiated by Westerosi Elvis.

Am I the only one who connects Daeneris and Lenin all the time? The revolutionary spirit and the wanting to free [the slaves] but also the hang to massive brutallity lets me think about that all the time xD

I mean he's both dead and not, yet isn't a Walker, so what is he?

I’ve had a theory since several seasons before Game of Thrones ended that Gendry Baratheon should have ended up as king. And honestly, I still think that would have been a much more satisfying conclusion.
First, I think the show needed 10 to 12 full seasons. The early seasons were so effective because they took their time developing characters, political relationships, and consequences. The final seasons rushed through events that should have taken years to unfold.
Jon Snow should have been the one to kill the Night King. His entire story was building toward that confrontation, especially with the Prince That Was Promised prophecy. I also think the White Walkers should have made it much farther south. Imagine Winterfell actually falling, forcing the survivors to retreat as the dead continued marching through Westeros. The final confrontation could have taken place somewhere historically significant, like the Gods Eye or the Isle of Faces, tying the conflict back to the ancient magic of the Children of the Forest.
And here’s where my slightly insane Bran theory comes in.
What if Bran was actually responsible for creating the Night King?
We already know from Hodor that Bran can influence the past while observing it through his visions. What if, while witnessing the Children of the Forest creating the Night King thousands of years earlier, Bran tried to intervene by warging into the man they were about to transform?
He believes he can prevent the White Walkers from ever existing. But when the Children plunge the dragonglass into the man’s chest, something goes horribly wrong. The magic interferes with Bran’s warging, severing a portion of his consciousness and trapping it inside the newly created Night King.
Bran’s attempt to prevent the catastrophe actually becomes part of what causes it. It’s a closed time loop, just like Hodor, but on a much larger scale.
The Night King isn’t secretly a good guy. The transformation has corrupted that fragment of Bran’s consciousness into something genuinely monstrous. But it explains the strange supernatural connection between them, including why the Night King seems to recognize Bran when he touches him during the vision.
Eventually, Bran discovers the truth and realizes that trying to manipulate the past has had catastrophic consequences. Jon ultimately kills the Night King, and Bran learns that even his extraordinary knowledge and abilities have limits. His character arc ends with him accepting that he can’t control everything, which makes his eventual role as an adviser rather than a king much more meaningful.
Jaime should have killed Cersei. He originally became the Kingslayer by killing the Mad King to save King’s Landing. Having him ultimately kill Cersei to prevent another catastrophe would have brought his story full circle. He still loves her, which makes the decision even more tragic. His redemption wouldn’t be about becoming a perfect person, but about finally making the right choice despite what it costs him.
The Hound and Mountain could still kill each other, but their final confrontation deserved more emotional weight, particularly regarding Sandor’s lifelong trauma and fear of fire.
Daenerys should still burn King’s Landing. I’ve always thought her descent into tyranny was foreshadowed throughout the series. She genuinely believes she’s a liberator, but increasingly confuses her own ambitions with moral righteousness. She’s ruthless toward anyone she considers an enemy, becomes obsessed with her birthright, and gradually begins resembling the very tyrants she claims to oppose.
Her downfall wasn’t a betrayal of her character arc. It was the culmination of it. The writers just needed more time to make that final transformation believable.
Jon still kills Daenerys. Drogon still melts the Iron Throne. Jon eventually returns north, Arya sails west, and Sansa becomes Queen of an independent North. Those endings all make sense for their characters.
But instead of Bran becoming king, the surviving nobles elect Gendry Baratheon.
Gendry is Robert Baratheon’s biological son, and Daenerys herself legitimized him and made him Lord of Storm’s End. He has a legitimate claim, but more importantly, he grew up as an ordinary working-class blacksmith. Unlike nearly everyone else competing for power, he actually understands what life is like for the people who suffer through the wars of kings and queens.
He also doesn’t particularly want the throne, which makes him a fitting choice after everything Westeros has endured.
Tyrion becomes his Hand, bringing years of political experience and hard-earned humility. Bran serves as an adviser through his knowledge as the Three-Eyed Raven. Gendry recognizes the North’s independence, allowing Sansa to rule her own kingdom.
And I love how everything comes full circle.
The series begins with Robert Baratheon on the throne after winning it through rebellion. It ends with his son becoming king, not through conquest, but because the surviving leaders choose him.
Daenerys spends her entire life trying to reclaim her family’s throne, only to unknowingly legitimize the man who ultimately succeeds her.
The Iron Throne was originally forged by dragonfire from the swords of conquered enemies. Drogon destroys it, and Gendry, a literal blacksmith, chooses not to rebuild it.
Jon saves humanity but never becomes king. Jaime completes his redemption through tragedy. Daenerys becomes the kind of ruler she swore she’d never be. Bran discovers the terrible consequences of trying to control history. The surviving Stark children finally find their own places in the world.
And Gendry, a man who spent most of his life making weapons for other people’s wars, is left with the responsibility of rebuilding a kingdom devastated by them.
It’s not a perfectly happy ending, and it shouldn’t be. Westeros is still broken, countless people are dead, and nobody gets everything they wanted.
But there’s finally a chance for something better.
That’s the bittersweet ending I think Game of Thrones deserved.