r/DeadlockTheGame • u/ExtraLargeSoda • 3d ago

Discussion Earth Shattering Lore Change

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u/GuyMontag95 3d ago

If what Geist says is of any truth, then Celeste smells of cheap cigarettes. 

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u/ShyngShyng 3d ago

she's a circus performer, part of her paycheck is autmotically deducted for the Marlboro tax, lol

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u/Lftwff 3d ago

She doesn't even get the money, the circus just buys them by the container and hands them out every week

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u/bigcrows 2d ago

She smokes reds…holiday smokes golds

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u/SpazzyFazzy The Doorman 2d ago

as a midwestern man who’s sold a fair number of cigarettes, I think Celeste smokes menthol golds and Holliday’s a black red 100s kinda gal

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u/Thatwokebloke 1d ago

I could see rem thinking menthol was peppermint

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u/Lucyller Vyper 3d ago

So like Vyper???

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u/Magellaz23 3d ago

Ah, so my girl is menthol scented. Nice... nice...

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u/Eltnumfan 3d ago

Does Geist actually say that? One of my main criticisms about Celest voice is that she sounds like she smokes.

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u/GuyMontag95 3d ago

It’s one of the lines she can say when she kills an enemy Celeste. The full line is “She reeked of cheap cigarettes and optimism.”.

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u/daypxl Venator 3d ago

what does optimism smell like

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u/F0RGERY 3d ago

Saccharine

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u/G4130 Celeste 3d ago

I wish I knew

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u/Serbia_X_AlbaniaLOVE Vyper 3d ago

Catshit

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u/Viking_things 3d ago

Well, definitely not peppermint

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u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast Rem 3d ago

Maybe she doesn't smoke, but the rest of the people at the circus do? Cigarette smell does tend to stain clothes.

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u/Trey2225 2d ago

Definitely does, when I went to visit my sister for the first time I had to wash all my clothes again because she could smell my grandfather’s cigarillos. I grew up around it never knew it lingered that much.

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u/Motor-Design-4932 Celeste 3d ago

Sniff sniff

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u/RinellaWasHere 3d ago

It's the middle of the 20th century. Everybody smokes.

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u/JessHorserage Bebop 3d ago

She's from atlantic city, right? If so, course she does.

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u/Ir_Abelas 3d ago

"sounds like she smokes"

buddy that's the best part of her voice

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u/RandomCleverName 3d ago

Silver is to blame for this

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u/mrturretman Paradox 2d ago

she WOULD

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u/OkNarwhal2090 Haze 3d ago

They also seem to have removed that interaction between Drifter and Ivy where he says "look at us, the reaper and the sower" and she doesn't understand him at all

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u/NightRider321 3d ago

that really sucks I like that one :/

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u/gammaton32 Viscous 3d ago

Dev just confirmed this wasn't intentional

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u/yugiohhero Apollo 3d ago

Tbf that one always rubbed me the wrong way just because shes super casual about Drifter admitting hes a serial killer to her face, while her new dialogue is full of shit like "Yeah I can't keep a job because I german suplexed a customer once for harassing my coworkers". I don't think she'd just go "yeah your analogies need some work"

Plus, "I've never been to a farm" feels silly to say when 2 of her abilities involve creating plants. You literally sow all the time it's called pressing 1.

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u/TurmUrk Lash 3d ago

I mean, she’s never been to a farm, qudzu grows literally anywhere, it’s an invasive species that can destroy stone structures, shes a city girl

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u/Grey00001 Warden 3d ago

I still think it’s so crazy that Ivy just goes around throwing invasive Japanese plants everywhere

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u/Pencilshaved Dynamo 3d ago

The thing is, when it was first introduced, it was actually considered beneficial for how fast it grew. There were monetary incentives for farmers to grow it to help with erosion control. It took decades for people to realize how damaging and out-of-control it could be.

So it’s not active malice as much as using something “useful” whose actual downsides took ages to reach public awareness. In that sense, Ivy essentially has the 1920s equivalent of asbestos-themed abilities. In this essay I will

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u/cat4laugh Ivy 2d ago

The Dynamo flair really adds to your comment. Let me know if you need a co-author on your paper!

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u/Sappow 1d ago

Kudzu also dies under its own shadows extremely quickly and really only grows Like That at the edge of woodland, it just looks monstrous along highways where there's nothing to eat it and none of the more hardy native & invasive species around to outcompete it so it engulfs trees. If you go like 20 feet further into the woods it's all gone because it can't tolerate any shade.

Goats and other ungulates love it too and will just eat it all up

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u/Away-Actuary-6963 3d ago

Kudzu has been in America since the late 19th century 

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u/rabbidbunnyz222 3d ago

As an invasive species from Japan, yeah

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u/Regular-Bid6812 Calico 3d ago

I mean if we go back far enough then most newyorkers are pretty much invasive.

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u/QuestionElectronic89 3d ago

You’re getting downvoted but that was lowkey a bar.

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u/SalubriAntitribu 3d ago

Big fat ass facts

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u/Malorea541 3d ago

Actually, funnily enough a huge amount of invasive species in America got their start from one dude introducing "all the animals in Shakespeare" into Central Park NYC.

ETA: just learned that this is an urban legend, the only actual invasive species that might have originated this way is Starlings. (though they are a pretty massively invasive species)

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u/yinyang107 McGinnis 3d ago

This whole Apple feels a little bit Cursed, it's like somebody else mighta been living here first

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u/Grey00001 Warden 3d ago

Well I’m glad you know when it was brought over here, doesn’t make it not invasive!

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u/Personal_Departure_2 Ivy 2d ago

They removed all mentions of Kudzu from ivy's 1 in the march patch(?) a while ago, so she's only growing invasive plants on herself and teammates ‼️

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u/TurmUrk Lash 2d ago

So I’m not going crazy? Was it called kudzu bomb before?

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u/Personal_Departure_2 Ivy 2d ago

YES AND KUDZU CONNECTION WAS WATCHERS COVENANT IM STILL SALTY VALVE CHANGE THE NAMES BACK!!!

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u/TurmUrk Lash 2d ago

If you can’t tell I haven’t played ivy in over a year lol

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u/LoloToo6 3d ago

Also I think because it was a bit “fish out of water” and made Ivy look kind of like a “drax the destroyer” literal type. Maybe they don’t wanna go that way with her

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u/Dave3r77 3d ago

She was so confused by his analogy she didn’t catch the “I’m a psychotic murderer” bit

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u/DepressedOpressed Rat King 3d ago
  • forced Mina mentioning

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u/Songib 3d ago

Man leaves logic behind for fun's sake

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u/yugiohhero Apollo 3d ago

i just found it out of character. thats all.

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u/Tek024 Viscous 3d ago

they also removed graves' mentioning her sister in one of her voicelines

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u/AJRW- 3d ago

Wait that's actually huge

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u/teaboi05 Rem 3d ago

Damn, this analogy made me think that Drifter used to be a reader, someone with romantic thoughts and that Mo&Krill stole his Don Quixote book they offer to Dynamo as a gift for Marla

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u/No_Bit_8678 3d ago

"Ah anotha day of tearing troats time to catch up on my favorite book." <---- clueless

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u/nodiso 3d ago

He knows that Canon in d was pachelbel and not mozart. He's somewhat educated don't know is he reads classics though

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u/Voltingshock 2d ago

He read them when they came out

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u/AquaBits 2d ago

Used to? I think bro was just alive when stuff was written

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u/CakeAqua 3d ago

NO THAT WAS SO FUNNY

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u/Charles_of_TheIsles 3d ago

That sucks. I thought that one was great.

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u/Talsinki Mo & Krill 3d ago

WHAT that was one of my favorites 😭

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u/GamingGodzilla 3d ago

Planting seeds. Farming.

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u/DanClypse Seven 3d ago edited 2d ago

They should have removed the one that says that he doesn't care about who she is, or at least the delivery. Sounds unnecessarily edgy and lacks the subtlety Drifter often shows in other dialogues.

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u/CliveBarkers-Jericho 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not quite, thats a conversation that can have randomized responses at the end and currently none of those types of conversations are working in game.

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u/adeotu24 3d ago

Good riddance tbh, it was a weak convo that just made Ivy look kinda stupid

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u/Neadim 3d ago

That was one of my favorite, damn

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u/Lucyller Vyper 3d ago

And they removed the line about Lash donating to children who sucks, which was imo his funniest line.

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u/Cleric_Guardian Dynamo 3d ago

What're the odds that they accidentally removed a bunch of these lines? The others I get, but the Lashback charity removal has to be a mistake... Right?

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u/Serbia_X_AlbaniaLOVE Vyper 3d ago

It is a mistake because it is the world that strays from The Lash’s path

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u/LadyCyclops 3d ago

This line is still in the game, its just not listed. Its one of his hero select lines

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u/modster101 3d ago

Dont think it is, just tried for 5 minutes and couldn't get it. It doesn't appear in the lil listen box either.

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u/LadyCyclops 3d ago

I did the same thing before making this comment to verify I wasn't lying

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u/Jahames 3d ago

I also heard it last night, it’s still there.

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u/modster101 2d ago

then maybe the lashback foundation is meant for me :(

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u/Sadcelerystick 3d ago

What if.. you’re lying about lying in order to lie more which in return multiplies your lies and ends up just perpetuating a cycle of infinite lies?

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u/Mindless-Produce4091 The Doorman 3d ago

THEY WHAT??

Nah we riot

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u/Lucyller Vyper 3d ago

Generational fumble from Yoshi, I know...

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u/Nanobreak_ Silver 3d ago

Got it last night, so unless we're talking within the last 12 hours, it's still there

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u/akhamis98 Lash 3d ago

Wtf that was his best one

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u/EnragedHeadwear 3d ago

What?! This was my favorite Lash line why would they remove it

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u/FizzleDrunk 3d ago

Wasn't removed, just rerecorded

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u/bigtree2x5 3d ago

Well I guess it's confirmed, she smells like horseshit now.

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u/hellatzian 3d ago

The Lash approves

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u/Firefly_deadlock 3d ago

at least this one is still in

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u/Sgrp112 3d ago

Wet dirt smells great tho

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u/DotA627b Mo & Krill 2d ago

Literally the smell of grass being fed.

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u/Treed101519 Graves 3d ago

They deleted graves having a sister by changing jars unlock line from keep sister out of room to keep people out of room

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u/FakeMr-Imagery Bebop 2d ago

nerfed to become a lonely single child

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u/387dedaehelzzuPevreN McGinnis 2d ago

Okay but why are there people (plural) trying to get into her room?

Shit I'd also let an obviously evil lich hand manipulate me down adark path if it also helped keep random people from getting into my home.

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u/Lemon_Girl Mirage 3d ago

We won't forget she used to be called Pepper, Valve.

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u/SquiggerDigger Paradox 3d ago

I noticed they changed a Celeste voiceline too

I think when you upgrade her 1 she used to say something about people in the front row getting injured but now she says " I had to start moving people further back"

Very interesting change

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u/__slowpoke__ Paige 3d ago

probably julia mcclomsky and her damn lawsuits again, now she's even making celeste change her voicelines

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u/SquiggerDigger Paradox 3d ago

Fkn Julia mcclomsky

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u/Engine-True 3d ago

What is the lore

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u/__slowpoke__ Paige 3d ago

celeste mentions her in one of her voicelines for upgrading light eater, it's implied that she's gotten sued by her at some point for causing damage or injuries during performances for kids' birthday parties

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u/drizzrod Shiv 3d ago

Unplayable

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u/ElkWhich8886 3d ago

Redditors be like "Woah... this confirms Celeste is actually a fraud and a terrible person who hates peppermint and fun"

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u/Paradoxpaint 3d ago

Celeste licorice transformation confirmed!

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u/UltraJake Deadman Danny 3d ago

Redditors be like "Whoa... Reddit"

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u/CactusFingies Drifter 3d ago

Reddit assemble!!! 😂😂😂 gosh I love the internet

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u/Askal- Shiv 3d ago

we won the internet!!!

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u/SupremeGodZamasu 3d ago

Redditors be like "redditors be like", but they the redditors who be like!

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u/Xaephos Rem 3d ago

Celeste might not hate fun, but Celeste players definitely do.

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u/WorkingMansGarbage 3d ago

They removed it because peppermint is cancelled for tweeting racial slurs

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u/TheLastDesperado 3d ago

On a similar note, I wish they'd bring back Holliday's "Shut the fuck up" voice line. Her new "Shut up" replacement just sounds kinda bratty.

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u/JessHorserage Bebop 3d ago

What line was this?

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u/Shark_Waffle_645 3d ago

that was from one of her dialogues with Lash, in which The Lash™ was hitting on her

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u/JessHorserage Bebop 3d ago

Which is weird, because out of the set of responses, she is aggressive enough to want to.

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u/Alexander_Baidtach Silver 2d ago

You can't say fuck in a valve game, its against the rules.

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u/NovaMLP 2d ago

Yea apparently it's some sort of company policy or unwritten rule. Not because of ratings or anyone else just because they don't feel like including swears much?

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u/Confident_Shape_7981 2d ago

Do these rules also explain why abilities go from 1-2-5 to power them up?

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u/-Gnostic28 Seven 3d ago

They also removed rem’s interaction with silver where he asks for her coat, says she’s mean and she’s like “yeeep”

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u/sonofnight666 3d ago

whatttt!!! are you sure? that’s one of my fav interactions :( and i was hoping he would get a skin with silver’s jacket at some poiny

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u/-Gnostic28 Seven 3d ago

Yeah it’s gone, I first noticed last week

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u/Kripto_Y 3d ago

Whaaat. I loved that "yep." :(

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u/-Gnostic28 Seven 3d ago

Same

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u/vezitium 2d ago

Weird the files in deadlock vlviewer website have the files for it labeled wrong on the last 3 lines. Is the sit updated with the client or is that an error on their part?

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u/LoloToo6 3d ago

WHY

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u/SmallFatHands 3d ago

Have you ever been to a circus? This girl does not smell like peppermint

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u/Tijenater Billy 3d ago

Brother, she’s a unicorn. I think them smelling like peppermint whenever they want isn’t that far of a reach

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u/LoloToo6 3d ago

Yes I’ve been to a circus. Are you trying to say she stinks because she’s sweaty from doing acrobatics???

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u/Login_Lost_Horizon 3d ago

Or because she's a horse.

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u/LoloToo6 3d ago

She’s a unicorn, not a horse? Also I’ve never been to a circus that smelled like horses but that’s just me

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u/Budget-Minimum6040 Shiv 3d ago

She’s a unicorn, not a horse?

Uh ... an extra horn does not make a unicorn a non-horse. It's just an upgraded horse.

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u/Motor-Design-4932 Celeste 3d ago

Yeah she sweaty

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u/TouringTanuki Infernus 3d ago

Celeste’s original name was Pepper. Other lines referencing this were removed, so I’d assume this was removed for that reason.

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u/galaxyiris 3d ago

Yeah, this is the actual reason. It was a pun on a old name that isn’t hers

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u/Alive-Ad8066 3d ago

There’s another quote where Lady Geist says she smells like cigarettes

She can’t smell like both peppermint and cigarrettes at the same time I think

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u/sonofnight666 3d ago

unless its a menthol cigarette…

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u/NovaMLP 2d ago

Rem doesn't seem to actually smell people. The things he lists don't really make sense. I think it's more of a vibe check sorta thing. Like Kelvin and Seven smelling like stores, but one is evil smores.

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u/Honorzeal 3d ago

Does this imply Rem didn't know what peppermint smelled like or that Celeste no longer smells like peppermint?? 🤔

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u/Sqwibbl 3d ago

Geist says that Celeste smells like Cigarettes which is probably more accurate to what she'd probably smell like.

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u/ABigOwl 3d ago

So most likely menthol cigarettes, girl is slinging those Newports

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u/Natural_Mushroom3594 Venator 2d ago

Which means shes most likely smoking Spuds or Kools as (unless im off) the only two kinds of menthol cigs till the late 50s

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u/Gabrielhrd Vindicta 3d ago

She obviously smells like cotton candy

That's why it was removed

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u/Habarug 3d ago

She smells like glue now

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u/TeikokuTaiko 3d ago

ok but who smells worse kelvin or victor

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u/GuyMontag95 3d ago

Evidence points to Kelvin. You’d think it would be Victor however no one has said anything about his stench yet. Maybe the electricity has something to do with it. With Kelvin though, we have both Mina and Celeste commenting on his stench. The former says he generally smells disgusting while the latter specifically points out his parka. 

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u/FleetingRain 3d ago

Jesus Christ his parka must have a diabolical smell

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u/GuyMontag95 3d ago

At the time of the ritual, he’s been wearing it for a year plus and it’s confirmed that he has never taken it off since returning to New York in a conversation with Lash. While it’s possible he might not smell due to his condition, wearing something for that long would be approaching biohazard levels.

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u/DDieselpowered 3d ago

possibly, but at the same time the guy doesn't sweat, nor does he have any other bodily processes that would produce smells, so he genuinely might just smell like a slightly stale parka and nothing worse.

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u/__slowpoke__ Paige 3d ago

they pulled this guy out of the sea as a popsicle and slowly thawed him out. at best the guy smells like a wet dirty dog who just took a dive at the beach, and it's probably way, way worse than that

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u/DDieselpowered 3d ago

i mean the guy can wash his clothes still, he just cant take them off first lol, if i was him and had to be around people i'd probably hose myself down and pour some soap/laundry products over myself every now and then.

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u/FleetingRain 3d ago

But how is it going to dry exactly

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u/cylonfrakbbq 3d ago

It would still absorb odors from the environment even if he produced nothing himself

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u/FleetingRain 3d ago

Bro has chudlings just like Rem (all the bacteria and mold in the parka)

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u/slightlylessthananon 3d ago

tbf he spent most of that year in a block of ice, we don't actually have confirmation for how long he's been running around.

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u/Cinerae Infernus 2d ago

He's a magical corpse, for all we know, he doesn't eat, sweat or excrete anything. Though the clothes just might get dirty from just being worn.

That being said I haven't put my big coat ever in the laundry and it doesn't smell like anything

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u/BIGFriv 2d ago

If this is true it means I can't get romantic with him :(

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u/Routine_Palpitation 3d ago

REM says that kelvin smells like smores?

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u/Doot-and-Fury 3d ago

Rem's sense of smell confirmed to be total bullshit?

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u/EnderScout_77 3d ago

someone mentioned victor might actually smell clean with all the cleaning chemicals possibly used on him. don't recall the exact wording.

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u/Pinkformat Kelvin 3d ago

Probably viktor, since Kelvin is at least a FROZEN dead body

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u/LoloToo6 3d ago

I think Victor smells like a bodyworlds exhibit

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u/VividWeb5179 Victor 3d ago

victor’s embalmed so he’s preserved in that way

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u/leposterofcrap 3d ago

Dude embalming fluid reeks

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u/VividWeb5179 Victor 3d ago

You not rockin with fumes that make you feel like you’re being acid attacked?

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u/DryCryCrystal Rem 3d ago

It’s called aura

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u/VividWeb5179 Victor 2d ago

of suffering, even

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u/Naranox 3d ago

i can guarantee you that embalming fluid smells better than decomposing corpse

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u/leposterofcrap 2d ago

Shit and piss, especially since embalming fluid is toxic too

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u/Naranox 2d ago

It‘s not quite Fecal matter I think, it‘s a very unique smell to Formaline

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u/Mashaaaaaaaaa Mina 2d ago

Victor smells so bad that the stink deals spirit damage to you.

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u/yharnocunt Seven 2d ago

it's called aura bruh

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u/leposterofcrap 3d ago

I just know Victor would smell like embalming fluid

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u/yepterrr 2d ago

Victor probably bathes in alcohol and formaldehyde. Its unpleasant, but not strictly bad. Kelvin hasn't taken that parka off in a long time so thats natural human/corpse stench

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u/Murky_Sea_6490 2d ago

MO+krill and Pocket smells like sewer

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u/DoubleCactus 3d ago

Turns out she in fact smells like spearmint

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u/Expensive_Society914 3d ago

Well now its just unplayable. Thanks yoshi

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u/Regular_Point8796 3d ago

She started smelling like Silver ;)

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u/Biggesttower Lash 3d ago

Celeste confirmed stinky

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u/CrayonWithdrawal Venator 3d ago

They'll return the voiceline once celeste showers again

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u/UmbralNova_ 3d ago

It's because Lenny Lenny'd, obviously

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u/Excellent_Stick1087 3d ago

Bro got hit with a Anti Sexual Harassment Seminar by the HR probably haha

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u/shawntails 3d ago

Guess they didn't like Rem going up to people and smelling them

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u/nora_sellisa 3d ago

Rem... lost his sense of smell!?

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u/War_Dyn27 2d ago

Probably because it was a reference to her old name, Pepper.

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u/-TheTrueOG- 3d ago

Peppermint confirmed new hero name.

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u/Palumtra Sinclair 3d ago

Ask The Lash how she smells now.

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u/basalt_ru 3d ago

Peppermint Celeste was apparently too powerful for the current lore.

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u/SanchezSaysNO 3d ago

AINTNOWAY

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u/den_alpha 3d ago

She reeks now

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u/modster101 3d ago

They removed a whole bunch of voicelines in this update. common yoshi L

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u/No_Onion9887 3d ago

smells like barn and cheap menthol cigarettes probably

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u/Songib 3d ago

omgbruh

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u/skabonk 3d ago

she's got to smell like sickly sweet candyfloss and nicotine

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u/Flaming-ranger 3d ago

There was also the voice line between them where she calls him Remmy but takes it back after he doubles down on his name.

I wonder why they took that line away. Are the other “smells like…” voice lines still there?

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u/weoewoewow 2d ago

>this was replaced by rem saying “Lenny’s gonna Lenny”