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Hated Tropes [HATED] Adaptations done intentionally without help from the source

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Halo TV show: Before the show came out, the writers were praising their decision to not look to the games for inspiration when making the show

God Of War TV show: Chris Judge, the actor of Kratos in the games from 2018-Now, spoke up about his dislike on the show not hiring anyone who worked on any of the previous games. One of the original creators of Kratos also spoke up about them not having faith in the adaptation.

Supergirl 2026 film: the director for the film not only said he decided to not read Woman Of Tomorrow, the comic the film is adapting, because he wanted to do his own thing, he also didn’t look at comic art for inspiration to design Lobo and instead used an AI image generator to design Lobo’s look for the film

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

The Witcher famously did this, with writers openly bragging about it. They unfortunately fumbled several key themes of the books and games to produce a bland, generic fantasy show that was blatantly written by committee and for some reason reversed the age gap between Geralt and Yen to make Yen barely an adult.

Henry Cavill ended up leaving as a result of all this and certain people tried to imply it was because he was a chud bigot misogynist. Lots of women hed worked with came forwards to defend him and it became increasingly clear he quit because the show was dogwater.

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u/FeanorEvades Aug 21 '26

There's 3 separate problems.

  1. The executives won't hire people who created or assisted with the original IP because Hollywood is entirely built on nepotism, and thus the new directors/writers have this elitist attitude that a video game or a 30 year old book or an animated show MUST be inferior to their own storytelling

  2. The executives WANT there to be significant changes because they falsely believe that:

  • They are guaranteed a viewer base from the existing fans of the IP
  • The only way to expand that viewer base beyond existing fans is to change the story
  1. They also believe that they have no obligation to see a project all the way through. They're only here to make as much money as they can as quickly as possible, and any publicity advances their "next fiscal quarter" agenda. They don't care how a project ends because they'll either cancel it early or have a dedicated enough fanbase that will consume whatever bullshit they pump out.

The reality is that the sort of spiritual purpose of an adaptation is not to create something new or different or better. The purpose is to reach people who may not have comprised the original medium's audience. People who may have been turned off by experiencing this great story as a video game (The Witcher, Halo, God of War) or a book (Game of Thrones, Wheel of Time, The Witcher) or as animation (One Piece, Avatar: TLA), can enjoy the existing, beloved storytelling because it meets them where they are.

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u/SisterSabathiel Aug 21 '26

Number 4 is that it's really hard to get a new project off the ground, but much easier to convince execs to green light an adaptation (for all the reasons you said). Therefore you'll get writers who want to make their own project looking around for existing material they can use as a "disguise" so they can tell the studio execs it's an adaptation and hence increase their odds of getting their project green lit.

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u/FeanorEvades Aug 21 '26

That’s probably true but has it ever been confirmed? Or is it just a very likely theory?

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u/Amon7777 Aug 21 '26

If you listen to/watch enough Hollywood navel gazing podcasts or YouTube videos about how the behind the scenes of movies this is a very common occurrence.

Heck Starship Troopers is one that was made because the creative team wanted to do a sci-fi and basically looked at what IP was available by the studio and sold it from there having no desire from the outset to do an actual adaptation (though Paul Veerhoven ended up making one of the best
Satires regarding fascism ever). There are so many movies that have a similar origin.

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u/poppinbussay Aug 21 '26

This has been proven with the Witcher and Velma.

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u/Some-Lingonberry-211 Aug 21 '26

This.

And it's how you get unbearable midwits who can't write for shit genuinely believing they have anything of value to add to the works of JRR Tolkien, for example.

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u/faithfuljohn Aug 21 '26

project off the ground, but much easier to convince execs to green light an adaptation (for all the reasons you said). Therefore you'll get writers who want to make their own project looking around for existing material they can use as a "disguise" so they can tell the studio execs it's an adaptation and hence increase their odds of getting their project green lit.

It's like that exec that gets hired and fires everyone he didn't hire without trying to figure who or what is critical. A lot of people are more interested in "making their stamp on things" (i.e. making it their own) than actually making something good.

If they were more interested in making something good rather than "theirs" they would sit down to figure out what was good and what was bad, and work from there. But they don't.

For example: if Michael Gabon had been interested in what made Dumbledore interesting to people -- rather than make it his own -- he would have learned that one key feature that appealed to many people, was that not only was Dumbledore clever, but also seemed to be 4 steps ahead of everyone (including Voldemort). So Harry having his name is the globlet was less a shock and more of an interesting development. But Gabon famously had Dumbledore shouting... and if he too was taking by surprise.

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u/No_Walk_Town Aug 21 '26

This is basically what happened with Jackson's LotR. He very clearly just wanted to make a cheesy slapstick action-comedy splatter film, slapping some LotR character names on that and grabbing all the cash he could.

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u/mbrocks3527 Aug 21 '26

Don’t worry I understood the joke

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u/No_Walk_Town Aug 22 '26

I would hope you did, since the jokes in Jackson's movies aren't particularly good.

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u/kons21 Aug 21 '26

What I hate about this is, that it's such a perfect example of how sticking to the source works. Similarly with GOT. But studios insist on going against that.

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u/No_Walk_Town Aug 22 '26

that it's such a perfect example of how sticking to the source works

Sorry, I think you replied to the wrong comment? I'm not talking about a movie that stuck to the source material.

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u/Nielloscape Aug 21 '26

One Piece is adapted from a book (the manga).

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u/FlakingEverything Aug 21 '26

Creative types want to leave their touch on the end result. Or sometimes they have their own stories that they want to tell. However, genre like big epic sci-fi or fantasy just don't get funding unless it's attached to an IP so they'll change the IP to fit their vision.

That's how you ended up with master cheeks or Witcher season 4.

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u/zadtheinhaler Aug 21 '26

However, genre like big epic sci-fi or fantasy just don't get funding unless it's attached to an IP so they'll change the IP to fit their vision.

Exactly the travesty that was Wheel of [Pr|T]ime.

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u/archaon6044 Aug 21 '26

God I wanted to like that show, but the moment we were introduced to Perrin's wife I knew it was already over

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u/GloriousNewt Aug 21 '26

"Huh they're all teenagers in the story, but now Perrin is married, that's quite a change based on where his story goes"

5min later

"Oh nevermind she's dead now because he killed her while fighting monsters.." and then he will do nothing for the entire rest of the season.

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u/archaon6044 Aug 21 '26

I'd clocked her impending fridging within a minute of her introduction. Assuming they were going to bring Faile in later, it was the obvious thing to do. Really hammered my expectations for the writing quality into the dirt at the outset. I finished S1 out of spite, desperately hoping it would improve, and then never bothered with S2+

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u/gisaac Aug 21 '26

I think I knew before any character came on screen. The opening narration said they didn't know if the Dragon was a man or a woman.

I mean, excuse me? The entire story is laid on mechanical foundations that require the Dragon to be a man. It's completely incoherent. And no I don't care whatever marketing drivel someone came up with.

They also assassinated Matt's character right from the jump. Somehow they parsed prankster into thief.

Rand for some reason is having sex with the mayors daughter (in a small village medieval setting) when he's a character who has three love interests.

And you mention Perrin. I actually considered that maybe they were going to use it to jumpstart Perrin's self conflict since they were going to cut something else out later, but no. I think it is garden variety Fridging.

And that's episode 1.

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u/archaon6044 Aug 21 '26

God, I forgot about that intro bit. Yeah they expanded the Who Is The Dragon mystery to cover all of the EF5, which ok I can kind of see if you squint but really it was just unnecessary padding just to force the mystery. I think I read someone describe the showrunner as an Egwene fanboy, and the show was his AU fanfic where she got all of Rand's moments.
For me I think the most egregious fumble (outside of the Tarwin's Gap channelling incident at the end of S1) was when they run into the Whitecloaks, and the commander tells Moiraine to seek an Aes Sedai in the nearby village to get healing for her Trolloc wound. An absolutely stunning misunderstanding/mishandling of the source material, and I can't believe anyone who would claim to be a fan of the story would consider the idea

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u/Mr_Supotco Aug 21 '26

There’s a few things I think that play into it. For one, studios view it as “current fans are already a lock but we need to get non-fans to watch it too.” There’s some merit to this, because generally you do need to appeal to a wider audience due to higher production values, but that usually means they end up changing and/or simplifying too much and alienating the fans of the source material.

The other big one from what I can tell is that lots of these young writers want to write original stuff, but that’s way harder to get greenlit, so they either accept jobs writing for these adaptations or get offered spots after presenting an original idea the studio thinks they can just mold into an adaptation. Iirc The Witcher was the former, where the writers wanted to do their own original story but Netflix wanted to use its big name IP, so the writers ended up just shoehorning their own stuff into the show because they couldn’t get approved to do original stuff. It was quite a bold move though to sit down in recorded interviews and actively express your hatred for the source material of your adaptation. They were I think just the worst case of this where they both hated the original and got let off the leash to write their own stuff (that wasn’t particularly good anyways) and alienated everyone.

Plus it didn’t help that Andrej Sapkowski is a famously crotchety old asshole who hates everything, so I’m pretty sure he came on set early on and shit on these already whiny writers and made them even madder

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u/WeekendParticular205 Aug 21 '26

Think of it inversely from a job perspective. If you work on a project, for your CV and future career you need to show how you contributed to changing it. Leaving it as is and getting a good show won't get them hired for the next job. Same with contradicting a higher up's 'vision' and being marked as 'uncooperative' or 'anti <insert buzz word that they're trying to advertise>'.

I had this talk once with a asian show translator who explained why they HAVE to improve on original dialogues instead of translating as is(which would be faithful to the original material).

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u/blackjackgabbiani Aug 21 '26

I thought he was fired because he kept trying to suggest ways to make it more like the books and they didn't like that he clearly knew more than them about what Witcher fans enjoy.

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u/Kalavier Aug 21 '26

Last I checked, it was a combo of that, him constantly trying to keep it accurate to books/games, and IIRC he generally wasn't a fan of doing sex scenes and they kept pushing that?

I'm not 100% on the last but i remember it coming up. I have read there was clashing between him and the writers because he'd suggest stuff closer to the books/ask questions about why things happen and they'd tell him to worry about acting only.

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u/GrecoRomanGuy Aug 21 '26

Idk what the fuck they expected. Cavill loved the books.

Literally one of the early promos for the show is him sitting in a chair and reading a passage from one of the goddamn books. And it worked because A. he's clearly a fan and B. it builds some hype.

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u/Cabre13 Aug 21 '26

No, he never read the books before being casted in the series, he was a fan of the games and later he was pretending to be a expert in the books.

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u/Feeling_Sector_4726 Aug 25 '26

It’s hilarious that you’re being downvoted. He definitely had not read the books, he had only played the games. 

He literally talked about this on Jimmy Kimmel.

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u/Louiebox Aug 21 '26

To be fair, Geralt fucks.

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Aug 21 '26

Sex scenes are 99% pointless so I can understand wanting to focus on the story.

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u/Flaky-Ninja2398 Aug 21 '26

The sex is part of the story - I never get why people say this

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 Aug 21 '26

yeah, but there's almost no reason to have a full blown sex scene acted out on screen.

almost all scenes can be replaced with beginning-fade to black-aftermath

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u/Kalavier Aug 21 '26

I remember reading stuff like Henry (and an actress, I forget her name) pushed to have a couple sexual scenes rewritten because they felt it didn't fit the characters. And then somebody tried to smear Henry by bringing up stuff like "He didn't want to do romantic scenes, shirtless scenes! He's trying to rewrite scenes at the last second!"

It all came across as them pushing for more nudity/sex then was perhaps in the books/games and weirding him out.

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 Aug 22 '26

i mean, i dont blame them. who doesnt want to see more henry cavill skin? however, if you're making a show/movie, you gotta ensure that it contributes to the product.

or just pull a tarantino and lean into it a la from dusk till dawn

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u/Flaky-Ninja2398 Aug 22 '26

That statement is genuinely absurd to me. Why have an action movie - why not just show the aftermath? Why have a love story and not just tell us two people got together? Why show a war movie and not just them signing the peace treatsy? Do you even hear yourself?

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 Aug 24 '26

hey, if i want to see fucking, there's already a genre for it.

if i'm watching an action movie, spare the fucking thanks

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u/Flaky-Ninja2398 Aug 24 '26

No obviously pornography and naritive film are wildly different, come on. While titillation is one thing sex on camera can do it's also powerful as a storytelling tool

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 Aug 24 '26

yes, i can see why sex needs to be played out on screen, like in GoT when danny learns to have sex differently to gain power over kal drogo, that can be shown on screen for visual impact.

HOWEVER, not all scenes need to be

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u/Ayotha Aug 22 '26

Rarely

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u/Flaky-Ninja2398 Aug 22 '26

What do you mean by this? It objectively does. It's a plot point and a very dramatic one at that

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u/Blue_Moon_Lake Aug 21 '26

I wasn't speaking specifically about The Witcher.

Sex scenes that don't progress the story in meaningful ways are useless.

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u/Flaky-Ninja2398 Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26

But two characters have sex is advancing the story. It's literally a plot point. And one of the most dramatic you can have. I really don't understand why people say this

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u/topdangle Aug 21 '26

The reality was the show's writing sucked and he kept trying to repair it until he quit. It didn't really have to do with altering the source as much as the show getting rapidly worse. He asked them to go away from the source a few times. The way he portrayed Geralt was also less like the source material and instead more like the video game.

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u/FrigidMcThunderballs Aug 21 '26

He wasn't fired, he left the project.

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u/Ayotha Aug 22 '26

Sure. . .

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u/Arthurlmnz Aug 21 '26

I'm glad Cavill left. Those people needed a touch of reality

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u/IAmNotABabyElephant Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

Yen is definitely not "barely an adult", we see King Foltest as a little boy with his sister when she's doing her post-makeover graduation ceremony (or some other time post-makeover) and a few other signs of the timeline, so she's been an adult for at least a fair few decades

Edit: To be clear, I either agree with all the rest or don't know enough to feel confident challenging it. It's just that I'm pretty solidly confident that we had some indicators of Yen's age and that she's at least a definitely mature and fully grown adult.

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

Anya Chalotra was 23 and Henry Cavill was 36. He was almost old enough to be her dad. "How do you do, fellow middle-aged adults?"

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u/GloriousNewt Aug 21 '26

we're talking about the ages of the characters in the show, their real life ages doesn't matter in any way.

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u/RechargedFrenchman Aug 21 '26

And Geralt looks like he's 20 or 30 years older than Yen in literally every adaptation of the books so casting someone who's older makes sense.

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u/elderlybrain Aug 21 '26

  certain people tried to imply it was because he was a chud bigot misogynist

Who said this? I've never seen this.

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u/Mayonaigg Aug 21 '26

It's hard to find articles in the age of slop but this article sums up most of it, you can probably find the deuxmoi podcast where most of these claims "from insiders" were made. It's pretty widely agreed by all that the allegations are entirely fabricated trying to smear the guy cause he was getting praised as the only good thing about the Witcher Netflix. Hopefully links work here

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/henry-cavill-reportedly-refused-to-do-all-shirtless-scenes-in-the-witcher-3396189

They basically call him a toxic, misogynistic incel "gamer bro"

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u/ThyHolyPaladdin Aug 21 '26

Probably on twitter. I swear to God there’s hordes of people with weird opinions that are only native to twitter and don’t show up in other social media platforms

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u/FrigidMcThunderballs Aug 22 '26

Oh I actually remember this, it was a very short lived rumor that never really caught on. Basically died in a few weeks. IIRC it was because of the show's colorblind casting that some people painted him as leaving over creative differences wrt the source material as him rejecting the "woke direction" of the show. Like I said tho this didn't really go anywhere as a take, probably because it was invented out of thin air.

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u/Ayotha Aug 22 '26

ANy of the show runners when he left to defend their garbage

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u/notyourvader Aug 21 '26

The whole Witcher fiasco comes down to execs appointing some middle management type show runner, that in turn hired some sycophantic team of mediocre writers. It’s all top down management and no room for constructive criticism.

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u/PunishingCrab Aug 21 '26

That BTS story about filming the scene where Roach dies, a scene that should be poignant and heartbreaking having Geralts one constant companion die, was going to end with a fart joke. Roach would have had a death throes fart to kill any tension or sincerity. Prime millennial age writing. Cavill reportedly fought hard to not have that happen, which is mind blowing there was even a disagreement to be had.

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u/kmm101 Aug 21 '26

Refused to watch further after S2 first or second episode, whate other themes/plotpoints than that they fumbled?

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u/Affectionate-Guess13 Aug 21 '26

Alot of article saying he was difficult to work with too after this.

Turned out he just knew the source material and cared about it. Seamed like he would question the changes and written didn't like this and they up their own asses.

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u/Howling_Fire Aug 22 '26

And thats why with Henry now being involved with the upcoming Warhammer show in Amazon, he makes sure that hes one of the show producers in that one.

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u/HoldOnOhio Aug 21 '26

I thought Cavill said he left for Superman stuff and then it turned out Snyder got fired and Superman was recast.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

It’s always impressive to me how people continue to just spread fake internet rumors and truth about Witcher. Some grifter just tweets some made up shit and everyone just assumes it’s true and doesn’t fact check anything. Like 90% of everything you said never happened lol

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u/Willing-File-3638 Aug 21 '26

He's right on the fact they tried, to make him the evil guy after he left

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

Nope. A random person on Twitter claimed it with zero evidence. So they quite literally in fact didn’t lol. Please stop believe every weird thing some grifter tells you.

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u/CirrusVision20 Aug 21 '26

So, then why did Cavill leave?

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

His contract was up and didn’t want to renew it and wanted to do other things. He’s never said specifically why. He had signed on to come back as Superman and was in talks to run, produce, and star in the 40k universe. He likely just didn’t care about the show enough to do it over being Superman and 40k (a series he loves more than anything in the world).

Not everything is a big controversy lol

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u/Oddsbod Aug 21 '26

He left because he didn't renew the 3 year contract, and was taking on a different job for a Warhammer adaption. It's a thing actors do. 

Man it's crazy how the responses getting downvoted are just pointing out Henry Cavill fired by the nefarious showrunners for loving Witcher too much was an online outrage-fantasy with no actual corroboration. The only direct information we've ever gotten was Cavill wanted to pursue other projects, and people upset by the adaption's low quality have stapled a saucy telenovela drama over it to circlejerk over.

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u/ProfessionalBoss2428 Aug 21 '26

Let’s just say everyone agreed he could and should, both sides were done.

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u/AggressiveBench9977 Aug 21 '26

Cause he got an offer for warhammer

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u/Mayonaigg Aug 21 '26

You're the one making shit up, a podcast aired and made claims and statements from people on the witcher-flix team and smeared cavill, which was picked up and published in tons of gossip, celebrity, TV, and video game news sites. Is that you, Lauren pissrich? 

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u/Oddsbod Aug 21 '26

Begging you to take a second look at this conversation, because this is exactly how every single random bit of conspiracy theory and misinformation spreads online. 

Person A: [Cavill being fired or forced out as an act of deliberate spite] is an unsubstantiated rumor, people repeat it uncritically online to add personal drama to an otherwise mundane and disappointing part of actors coming and going from projects. 

Person B: You made that up. There was a podcast that cited someone on cast/crew who said negative things about Cavill.

This doesn't actually mean anything. Finding hearsay of a rando who spoke negatively of Cavill does not then swim upstream to become evidence of Cavill was forced out in a messy scandal then slandered negatively online to cover up the actual nefarious activities of showrunners, this how conspiracy theorists try to sell you on outlandish theories without having to interact with evidence.  There isn't and never was evidence Cavill was forced from the role, and the urge to make a dramatized narrative of clashing visions and noble artist vs villainous hater is falling into the same pattern as 'facebook commenter who reads headline and immediately gets upset over an imagined scenario without reading the story'.

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

"Some grifter" you one of the actual writers from the show?

They changed so much. The penis helmets (they claimed were to make Nilfgaard look poor, but that makes no sense. Nilfgaardian poverty was also be a huge change from the books)

The elves outright massacring babies. In the books and game they're guerrillas who do whatever it takes, but theyre not literal evil monsters emerging from the woods to slaughter infants. Why the show decided to basically prove all the humans right rather than keep everything nuanced i have no idea.

They kept Yen younger than Gerslt which is more accurate to the books than the game, but at the same time they are both adults and meant to look it. Anya Chalotra is great and I have no issue with her race but there are plenty of South Asian actresses who wouldn't have looked like kids next to Henry Cavill

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

 "Some grifter" you one of the actual writers from the show?

DeMayo? The guy who got fired from the show for being toxic and sexually harassing people who then got fired from the very next show he went to work on too? Who also never claimed any of that and simply said they weren’t true fans? Yeah. Shining beacon of trust right there lol

They kept Yen younger than Gerslt which is more accurate to the books than the game

Well good thing it’s an adaptation of the book and not the games lol

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

You firing off the single downvote is sending me lmao. He wasn't fired from Witcher, he left to pursue other work and you can look that up. Look who is spreading lies on the internet now, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah he was later fired by Disney but he says that's because he had an OnlyFans they didn't like and nothing has been settled in court yet

Also lmao at you cutting off my quote before the 'but' as if you caught me out or something.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

I didn’t downvote you.

“He wasn’t fired from Witcher”

According to writers on the show. Incorrect.

https://fandomwire.com/made-up-a-bunch-of-lies-to-cover-up-how-he-got-fired-the-witcher-writer-showed-no-mercy-to-x-men-97-beau-demayo-after-he-supported-henry-cavill/

“It’s pretty Cool™️ and Fun™️ to try and talk about how much you love your job and then get replies like this cause some asshole you used to work with made up a bunch of lies to your fanbase to cover up how he got fired for being an asshole and now that’s the narrative.”

He was fired for being toxic. The same thing he was claimed to be fired for at Disney/Marvel.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/x-men-97-creator-claims-marvel-gay-pride-1235976534/

“Mr. DeMayo was terminated in March 2024 following an internal investigation,” said a Marvel spokesperson in a statement. “Given the egregious nature of the findings, we severed ties with him immediately, and he has no further affiliation with Marvel.”

Of course it’s a he said she said until the case is ended but it doesn’t change he was fired from two jobs in a row for claims of misconduct. He’s not a reliable source.

cut me off

Doesn’t matter? She was a mid 20s actress hired younger because that’s how Yenn is in the books. Geralt isn’t. Yenn uses magic to make herself stay younger and attractive. They followed the books so that’s a dumb complaint.

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

One guy, mad about the Witcher's shitty reception for being a bad show, tweets claiming Demayo was 'fired' even though it is publicly stated he simply completed his contract and left as is normal in this industry. Demayo then later does get fired by Disney for having, he alleges, OnlyFans. In your understanding this tenuous character attack is the smoking gun which means he was lying and therefore Cavill was also lying when he said there was a gap between the showrunners vision and his own appreciation of the lore, and it's all a psyop, and the show was actually a masterpiece that DID manage to break 9.0 in the ratings and DIDN'T tank to a miserable 5-6 rating by Season 3

The unfortunate truth is even if Demayo had a frequent flyer's club membership to Epstein Island, he can still be right about the writers' attitudes towards the source material. Given how the show turned out, and the fact Henry Cavill (who despite later attempts to smear him, has roundly been praised by people of various backgrounds from various other projects he's worked on) also quit for similar reasons, I don't think "he may be a creep" is really a convincing argument

And I'm sorry but Yenn was badly written. They switched their actual ages around from the book/game to the show to make Yenn much younger mentally as well as physically and it is blatant in the way they wrote her. She is not controlled or emotionally closed off, she just yells and snaps a lot. Chalotra did a fine job with what she was given but they 100% made it a weird age gap. The game setting her as an attractive adult in her 30s who was actually much more experienced than Geralt hit the sweet spot but even keeping her as Le Young Waifu for the show would have been palatable if they hadn't made her actually younger and told her to act that way.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

The one guy is a writer for the show. Still is. There’s no “publicly” anything. DeMayo never said he wasn’t fired from Witcher.

So you’ve been caught lying multiple times so far.

And I’m not sure what your argument even is lol? No one involved with the show has ever attempted to talk poorly of Cavill. I never said the show was good.

You have ONE person, who has been stated to be fired, saying some writers didn’t like the books. That’s it.

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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Aug 21 '26

DeMayo was hired for Season 1, then hired to write that movie and also guest wrote an episode for Season 2? That's how writing works, you are hired per project not as just some permanent employee. You're demanding to prove a negative, given there's no information Demayo was fired other than one writer who was angry at him for trashing the Witcher.

Cavill himself said openly he found it hard to deal with the 'showrunners vision' because it did not match the lore he was passionate about, and ultimately left.

And you have the results which speak for themselves. The show pissed away all its goodwill incredibly rapidly.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Aug 21 '26

given there's no information Demayo was fired other than one writer who was angry at him for trashing the Witcher.

So…. There is a source that he was fired… when you claimed there wasn’t?

Cavill himself said openly he found it hard to deal with the 'showrunners vision' because it did not match the lore he was passionate about, and ultimately left.

No he didn’t. He simply said they had some disagreements at times. He also said he’d never read the books until the Showrunner told him too because he was a fan of the games, and had never read the books because he didn’t even know the games were based on the books. He has never said why he left. Both sides have only said kind things about one another and that he simply chose to leave.

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