r/cfbmemes • Ohio State Buckeyes • Oct 14 '25

Analysis “The SEC is deep”

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

The teams playing in the big 10 championship may end with two ranked wins total on the season

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

That’s kind of the point. The SEC has no good teams but we act like they are “deep” so they remained ranked with “quality losses”.

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u/Sea-Presentation5686 Alabama • South Alabama Oct 14 '25

The SEC hate is so deep that you get upvotes for this take? CFP Reddit should be renamed "SEC Haters club"

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u/eddie_the_zombie Navy Midshipmen Oct 14 '25

CFP Reddit should be renamed "SEC Haters club"

I don't see the issue. All in favor?

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

Big Ten fans crying about SEC bias when they watch Penn State get ranked number 2  to start the season without being a top five team in almost 10 years

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u/Furious_George44 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 14 '25

Making it to the semi-finals last year kind of put them at Top 5 (albeit only having to beat SMU and BSU to get there doesn’t exactly solidify it)

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

lol who did they beat to get to those semi finals? The make a wish kids 

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u/Express-Incident402 Oct 17 '25

lol Penn state looked more competitive against Notre Dame than Georgia did

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 17 '25

Hang the banner for “looking more competitive in a loss” 

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

And Georgia lost to an Ivy league school last year in the playoffs congrats

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u/WildeWeasel Air Force • Arizona State Oct 14 '25

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

We weren’t ranked even top 5?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

To be honest anytime ND is top 5 I have a concern…side question how do Georgia fans feel about beck? Meh?

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

Some UGA fans are butthurt as expected but most are happy for him and understand he did everything right- he sat for years on the bench waiting his turn, won us an SECCG and playoff spot while throwing to receivers that led the entire FBS in dropped passes. He’s playing at Miami exactly like he did at UGA, he just has better receivers. 

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u/trex1490 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

It’s split. Some fans (me included) realize that even though he didn’t play well in 2024, his supporting cast didn’t give him a chance to succeed last year, and it was a mutual parting of ways for him to transfer.

The other half (probably the majority, or at least the loudest fans) basically blame all the failures of the 2024 team on him and want nothing but for him to crash and burn in Miami.

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u/Eastern-Peach-3428 Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

I am pretty sure that Miami is going to win it all this year.

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u/e-tard666 Ohio State • Washington Oct 14 '25

Remind me who Georgia beat again? And Texas while we’re at it?

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

Last year? They beat Texas twice and won the SEC.  And UGA was not even ranked top 5 preseason 

Y’all B1G fans have lost your goddamn minds 

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u/threwou Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 15 '25

There's no sense in arguing with this person. They've been drinking their own koolaid for years and all you get are sec circlejerk downvoting in response. No matter how logical your argument, they just can't stand a differing opinion.

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u/TheDufusSquad Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

So they get ranked over the 2 teams that played for the championship because they were the third runner up last year. Makes sense. 

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u/MozzyTheBear Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

It was because the two teams that played for the title had a ton to replace, including QBs, whereas PSU brought the majority of their team back, including QB. It's still a flawed premise anyway though, because they weren't really that great to begin with last year and just had by far the easiest path to the playoffs semis. And Drew Allar is and always has been a mediocre QB that reverts to looking like a plucky true freshman again every time he plays a defense with actual NFL prospects. Further reaffirms to me that people just don't even watch these games and just form opinions and vote based on brand recognition. Like, even NFL draft analysts projecting Allar as a top 10 pick next year after this past season's draft. Based on what, I dunno...I thought I was going insane. Same thing in reverse working against Indiana right now...imo, based on results this season alone, Indiana should be ranked ahead of OSU currently.

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u/TheDufusSquad Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

Watching Penn state last year, I really felt like they only had 2 game changing players, and both were lost to the draft. The committee just had to be too high on Allar (like they were with Arch) or something otherwise they should have anticipated a bit of a dropoff from them. 

Generally can’t stand the committee ranking teams based on who they feel will break out at the QB position. 

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u/MozzyTheBear Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Yeah, there's no doubt Warren and Carter were far more crucial for them than anyone would've thought. I can't help but think that losing one defensive player and a TE/H-back shouldn't be enough to kneecap a great team, but imo just goes to show they weren't really that great of a team last year to begin with. I generally can't stand even the concept of using a committee to pick and choose this stuff. Or official preseason polls either, just leads to confirmation bias and gives a head start to the more highly ranked teams.

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 14 '25

Who was ranked #1 at the start of the season

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

We don’t claim them

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Good we don’t claim the SEC either

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 14 '25

LSU is only ranked because they beat #4 Clemson. Ole Miss is only ranked because they beat LSU. Your two highest ranking teams entire basis for being ranked is because of preseason rankings.

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u/Cornelius-Prime Ole Miss Rebels Oct 14 '25

This is also bait😂

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 14 '25

Kinda like that WSU game right?

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u/Cornelius-Prime Ole Miss Rebels Oct 14 '25

Ole Miss played horrible and Wazzu was ballin. Everything doesn’t have to be majorly reactive.

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

I’ve posted so many times on here that Clemson being ranked top 5 pre season was a complete joke.  They did absolutely nothing last year and went 0-3 against the SEC but snuck into the playoffs for winning the weak ass ACC against SMU. Yes LSU (and ole miss) is getting the benefit of that ridiculous overrating but the bias there is due to Clemson. 

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Someone has to be there and it’s seems like your counter argument is it should be based on living in the past.

Also Penn State gets made fun of a lot by B10 fans in general.

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

A pre season ranking has to taken in past season results. Penn state beat 0 top five teams last year and the 8 years before that. 

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u/threwou Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 15 '25

Oh, come on. you didn't know they were a paper tiger, either. They looked good at the end of last year and there was no reason to believe they would be this bad this year

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 15 '25

Actually, there was about 1-18 reasons I could list why they weren’t a top five team

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u/threwou Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 15 '25

Yes, now that it's October, we can all give reasons. This is called hindsight.

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u/Chotibobs Georgia Bulldogs Oct 15 '25

Uh Penn state hasn’t won a top 5 game in almost 10 years. We knew that preseason. I and many others called out how ridiculous that ranking was preseason

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u/threwou Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 15 '25

Sure. You should be a professional gambler.

While we're talking about ranking teams based on premonition, we know ole miss, tamu and Missouri will choke very soon just like every season. So, I can't understand why they're ranked as high as they are.

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u/discountJoenuts Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 14 '25

Indiana fans are new to football. No scar tissue. Don’t be cocky you could lose anytime. Not saying you will but man these guys are talking the talk

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25
  1. No one has more scar tissue than Indiana fans.
  2. We could lose but the new landscape favors us now. It’s not all about the win-lose columns for the year.
  3. The SEC cheated their way to the top for the last 2 decades and deserve every bit of this not matter where it comes from.

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u/Relative_One_2441 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Please provide even a shred of evidence that the entire SEC “cheated their way to the top for 2 decades”. If you can’t - then take your tin foil hat and go home

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

All about win lose columns which is why we cancelled any OOC game that would put up any bit of fight.

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u/Relative_One_2441 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

BIG10 Fans: “SEC is inflated with their rankings. The rankings are biased toward them anyway. It’s a massive ouroboros ”

OSU and Indiana are ranked #1 & #3 respectively

BIG10 Fans: “SEE??!??!!? WE’VE GOT THE BEST TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY UP HERE IN THE BIG10!!!! LOOK AT THE RANKINGS!!!!” aggressively pounds chest like a gorilla

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u/threwou Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 15 '25

Have you watched either team play? because, they do look really fucking good so not sure what one point has to do with the other. I'm guessing you think Alabama should be ranked above both though.

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u/Grimy_Miller Georgia Bulldogs • Maryland Terrapins Oct 14 '25

“The SEC has no good teams” my brother we have 5 of the top 10 ranked teams in the country and 10 in the top 25

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u/Tyrion_toadstool Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 16 '25

I’m not disagreeing with the SEC being the best conference, but we all know a few of those ranked teams are going to end up being overrated and shit the bed before the end of the year and/or in bowl season/CFP.

What irks me is that when some of them end up losing to an Iowa or similar there won’t be any acknowledgment from SEC homers that they were overrated. The loss will just be ignored and the same circle jerk will happen again next year.

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Stop reading halfway through?

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u/Grimy_Miller Georgia Bulldogs • Maryland Terrapins Oct 14 '25

Indiana fans talking a lot for having won literally nothing

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u/HoodedNegro Georgia Bulldogs • Maryland Terrapins Oct 14 '25

Random, but Flair bro🫡. There’s a rare sight

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u/Grimy_Miller Georgia Bulldogs • Maryland Terrapins Oct 14 '25

Go Dawgs! Go Terps!

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u/Zealousideal_Loan904 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 14 '25

It's fucking insane. They think they've actually flipped some switch and it's blue skies in perpetuity now. Like, oh it was just that simple... just get a bunch of transfers! Oh, the difference is just one coach! Oh, the difference is just spend more on the sport! As if every other well-heeled institution hasn't been chasing glory that exact same way. It's so obviously lightning in a bottle, and they think they cracked the code. I look forward to their swift return to less than mediocrity, the same way the EXACT same athletics department ran their crown jewel basketball program into utter uselessness.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Do you understand how sos is called 

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u/stron2am Indiana • Central Michigan Oct 14 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Clearly not lol

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u/stron2am Indiana • Central Michigan Oct 14 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

No one uses ap poll rankings as a sos metric. Ap poll rankings aren’t even supposed to rank the best teams and they shouldn’t be ranking teams off of how good they are. Any sos metric worth using uses one of the most accurate predictive metrics to determine sos

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u/stron2am Indiana • Central Michigan Oct 14 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Over a multi year sample sp+ Sagarin and fpi are marginally worse than Vegas who is obviously the best. 

It’s proprietary. I wish I could tell you maybe I could be a professional sports better if I could make models that good

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u/CornIssues Michigan Wolverines Oct 14 '25

This dude said “Pray tell”

We ain’t in middle earth buddy

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u/RVAforthewin Georgia Bulldogs • Arizona Wildcats Oct 14 '25

No good teams? Good Lord the hyperbole.

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u/crispy_attic Oct 14 '25

“No good teams” you say. 🤔

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Your delusion is impressive

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

You’re the one that thinks your past means anything in this new era.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Nobody goes to Indiana to play football. Your program is inflated

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Everyone goes to Georgia for football, but they have to stay because of that DUI

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

No flair no balls

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Nobody went to bad schools in the south to play football for free. Now they don’t have to go there to get paid.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Your school has an 80% acceptance rate

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Your alums have no money.

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u/Trevyyy12 Georgia Bulldogs Oct 14 '25

Shhhh.. we don’t talk about strength of schedule here. 🤭

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u/GlorfinDelTaco Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Inflated rankings don't make them true.

Texas was number 1, Penn State was number 2.

If you argue or disagree with those rankings then you have to agree with me because the context is applicable.

"Well they didn't deserve it anyway." Of course not, now that we know what we know of them. Which is what the rest of the country has been saying about the entirety of the SEC for 2 decades.

If you don't agree with Texas being pre-season #1 then you can't agree with the inflated SEC rankings in the current Top 25.

Of course, their SoS will be stronger when they're playing/beating teams that are ranked, that is what inflated rankings mean.

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u/Wannton47 Texas A&M Aggies Oct 14 '25

Texas gets sucked off preseason regardless of conference, that’s not due to SEC (See rankings past 10 years of Texas being “back”)

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u/HumerusPerson Texas Longhorns Oct 14 '25

Pre-season rankings <<< In-season rankings after 6 weeks of games

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u/Zealousideal_Loan904 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 14 '25

Only morons (i.e. B1G fans) don't understand that.

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u/SubstantialValue5311 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

Your mighty Buckeyes are 5-14-1 all-time against the SEC.

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u/Crew_1996 Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

They have played more. The poster is only counting Ohio states record vs SEC teams prior to last years playoffs. Ohio state has had 3 more SEC wins since then. They also aren’t counting the OSu victory in the 2011 sugar bowl because the NCAA vacated that even thought that violation was lesser than Michigans 2023 violations that weren’t vacated. They also aren’t counting games played vs SEC teams that aren’t in the SEC anymore. Basically, they lied and cherry picked the scenario that makes OSU look as bad as possible.

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u/BadCrawdad Georgia • Wake Forest Oct 14 '25

As our friend Mark Twain says, "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."

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u/Crew_1996 Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Besides the obvious not counting the last 3 OsU vs SEC wins the poster did. It’s disingenuous to try to have it both ways. OSU is 8-14-1 vs teams currently in the SEC in games played while those teams were in the SEC.

In reality it’s only logical to count OSUs record vs the SEC in either one of 2 ways.

Either

You count every game played against a team that was in the SEC at the time of the game (OSU has a winning record)

Or

You count every game played against a team that is currently in the SEC (OSU also has a winning record)

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u/Crew_1996 Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

That was prior to the playoffs last year. Ohio state is 3-0 since then so 8-14-1. If you want to trash Ohio state you don’t need to exaggerate statistics. That also doesn’t count the OSU BCS bowl victory vs Arkansas that everyone saw happen.

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u/Javelin286 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Doane Tigers Oct 14 '25

And yet they made you’re mighty Tennessee and Texas look like little children.

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u/SubstantialValue5311 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

Nebraska fans don't want to get into this conversation. You guys are barely hanging on to blue blood status as it is.

I do acknowledge that the big 10 currently has more blue blood programs since realignment. But from top to bottom the SEC has more total wins against that conference.

Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State have carried that conference for decades. Then you add in USC and you get more titles and wins.

Where Alabama was the only blue blood program in the SEC. Until we added Oklahoma and Texas.

But programs like LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida have all won championships in the last 30 years.

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u/Dud3_Abid3s Oct 14 '25

…what?

Ohio St didn’t make Texas look like “children”…they lost by a single fucking TD this year…wtf?

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u/FrenchieBammer Alabama Crimson Tide • Air Force Falcons Oct 14 '25

This is Reddit, my friend. No matter the margin of victory - even if by one point on a last second hail Mary - is "beating the shit out of your team".

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u/ChummyMuffin05 Texas Longhorns Oct 14 '25

Did you actually watch the last 2 Ohio St- Texas games? Both closely contested high level football, one of them being in the national semi finals.. that’s on me though, I shouldn’t expect a Nebraska fan to understand good football.

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u/Ididntdodiddly Syracuse Orange • Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Damn. The SEC should have beaten OSU in the playoffs last year then

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u/SubstantialValue5311 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

I can't wait until Alabama plays Ohio State again. Even with two of your best players being taken from Alabama. I know it hurts being the 2nd best team in college football history. But take it like a man.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

The SEC has been ass clapping the sport for two decades lol

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

No, Alabama has been ass clapping. Vandy, South Carolina, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Miss. St, Missouri, Arkansas, A&M have not. They have done nothing. LSU had one year in the last decade, Florida in the last 2. You guys had a nice little run. The SEC has not. Bama did and the rest of the conference has been pretending like that makes everyone else “ass clappers”.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

The big10 has had one single team do anything for the last 20 years

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

That’s irrelevant to the point big guy. I know this is hard to follow. No one is saying because Ohio State has been great and Michigan won a championship, the rest of the Big10 teams are better than everyone else.

This is what the SEC is doing. Because Saban ran college football for a decade, South Carolina, Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, etc., is in a league above everyone else. Obviously that would be insane to agree with! You strike me as passionate but not insane.

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas Oct 14 '25

I will give Ohio State all the flowers they deserve but Michigan fucking cheated and should never be celebrated for such.

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u/jamesknightorion Alabama Crimson Tide • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Oct 14 '25

Ok I'll give you credence on that, at least for the championship runs. but there were for sure some years the bottom feeders of the SEC were absolutely dominant too

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

Bottom feeder teams were dominant? C’mon. You’ve got to be more specific here. Because there were years where teams that were bottom tier teams were better than they usually are. But that statement is a crazy generalization.

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u/jamesknightorion Alabama Crimson Tide • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Oct 14 '25

2014 Mississippi State grilling everyone and being the first ever CFP #1 Ranked, whatever year it was a couple years ago when Kentucky was a playoff contender late until losing to the big names late in the season, those years when Mizzou and South Carolina made the SEC Championship game, etc. Only team I can think of that hasn't done squat in the SEC is Vanderbilt.

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

Dude! You’re getting it! These teams aren’t good. But to your point, they were able to have success in the SEC some years. That means the SEC isn’t as good as it’s made out to be. Because that is what is said when a non-traditional BIG10 wins. Oh, team X was overrated because they lost to that weak Big10 team.

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u/Thaispaghetti LSU Tigers • CBS Oct 14 '25

Even without Bama there was other SEC teams that likely would have won in those years if Bama didn’t exist.

Always found this to be a bizarre argument.

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

And we are back with the hypothetical wins. Which to your point, the SEC is undefeated in.

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u/Thaispaghetti LSU Tigers • CBS Oct 14 '25

It’s just beyond goofy to suggest that another SEC team would have not won some years if bama didn’t exist?

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u/Mister_Jackpots Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

And there it is, the SEC hypothetical championship already crowned!

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u/Thaispaghetti LSU Tigers • CBS Oct 14 '25

Fortunately we do not need hypotheticals because we have actual seasons where the SEC wins.

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u/jamesknightorion Alabama Crimson Tide • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Oct 14 '25

Yep. Georgia would have beat Notre Dame in that 2012 Championship Game. In 2011 you could argue the same thing for LSU, and in 2010 Auburn won it. It isn't like it's only been Bama for decades now

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u/stron2am Indiana • Central Michigan Oct 14 '25 edited Nov 23 '25

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u/ixilices Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

Do you honestly believe this is true? Come on now

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u/BrogenKlippen Georgia Bulldogs • Georgetown Hoyas Oct 14 '25

OSU won fair and square, but Michigan straight up cheated and should not be celebrated for such trash.

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Because they used to represent 90% of the teams paying players. Now they’re not only not the only ones but they’re kind of broke.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Why do they have the hardest schedules

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u/Buckeye3327 Oct 14 '25

Because it’s in ESecPN’s financial interest to rank as many SEC teams as possible. More ranked matchups = higher ratings. This is pretty basic shit

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u/Mister_Jackpots Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

This is the same circular argument you made last season, bro.

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Because they rankings are arbitrary based on your past? The SEC will still be the Notre Dame of conferences for a while.

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u/jamesknightorion Alabama Crimson Tide • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Oct 14 '25

So you don't think the SEC will win anything for a while?

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u/thatwasagoodscan Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

I wouldn’t go that far. The SEC and B10 will still get 3+ teams in every year until someone else steps up and anyone can win at that point. But being clearly at the top is over and has no chance of coming back.

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u/DynasForever Ohio State Buckeyes • USF Bulls Oct 14 '25

BECAUSE THEY PLAY A BUNCH OF TEAMS WRONGFULLY RANKED HIGH FROM THE START, LIKE TEXAS!

Ffs bud. The 2nd best team in your conference just STRUGGLED with WSU at home. Stfu

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u/gongman18 Oct 14 '25

Like Illinois, Penn State, Michigan, Oregon?

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u/DynasForever Ohio State Buckeyes • USF Bulls Oct 14 '25

The current top 2 teams in the B1G just went on the road and beat ranked opponents.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

That’s literally your schedule you’re describing lmao

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u/Buckeye3327 Oct 14 '25

Right up until NIL hit, now look at you embarrassing yourself

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

No one bases sos off of rankings lol wtf are you talking about 

Edit: how can people be so objectively wrong and so willfully ignorant 

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u/AdditionalOne8319 Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Literally everyone does

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u/Reasonable-Bit560 Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Ahhh. The classic recruiting rankings pitch. Why don't we just give away the native nal title to whomever finishes first in 247.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

What are you talking about 😭

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

I mean we can talk about it, but we also need to talk about how SEC teams got thrown in a dumpster in the playoffs the last couple years as well.

Washington is 5-1 with their only loss being to the #1 team in America. They have a higher SOR and SOS than Tennessee. Tennessee is ranked 11 and Washington is NR. Why?

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

Thrown in a dumpster? Texas & Alabama played Ohio State & Michigan closer than anyone else in their playoffs. Just ended up on the short end of the winning stick. Not exactly “dumpstered” lol.

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

Very funny that you left out Tennessee, who got beaten like a rented mule, or Georgia getting clapped by ND.

The SEC is absolutely unbeatable on paper and resumes but they have returned to the pack with on field results.

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u/FrenchieBammer Alabama Crimson Tide • Air Force Falcons Oct 14 '25

I don't believe we remind TN fans enough that their program sucks and got waxed in the playoffs.

Thank you, Ohio State fans.

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

Tennessee fans, of all SEC teams, have the highest ratio of talking about how good the SEC is vs doing anything of value on the football field. They are the poster child for riding coat tails of actual elite programs.

I have zero beef with Bama and UGA, they have done it on the field at a high level for a long time. The rest of your conference is bums and the occasional absurd LSU run.

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

Eh, Georgia didn’t have their starting QB. I think we can all see that Stockton isn’t as good as Beck, but they let him go due to NIL issues/asks.

And Indiana got BTFO as well lol. Didn’t see you mentioning them either

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

Indiana lost to ND by a closer margin than UGA, Tennessee, or Texas lost their games. So if they got “BTFO” then what did all those SEC teams get?

Further, the Big Ten went 6-3 in the playoff. The SEC went 2-3. You can see the difference there I hope?

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

Yeah that garbage time 14 points they scored did a lot of work. Watch the games, not just the box scores.

And yes. Ohio State was the best team in the country.

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u/Useful-ldiot Ohio State • Santa Monica Oct 14 '25

Very convenient you mentioned Texas keeping it close but not Tennessee getting throttled.

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u/ixilices Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

I , for one, would like to talk about Tennessee being throttled

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

And you didn’t mention Indiana getting BTFO either lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Because they didn't? The margin was closer than the Texas Tennessee and Georgia games

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

It was 27-3 with less than 5 minutes left. Those garbage time scores did work. Watch the games.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

They played tough but were outmatched. Tennessee was baptized. As was Georgia.

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u/iliketoupvotepuns Mississippi State • Memphis Oct 14 '25

We must have been watching different games. Indiana was baptized. Oregon was baptized. Tennessee was baptized. Georgia lost, idk if I’d say baptized, but they couldn’t move the football with their backup QB for sure.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Talk about how that horrible Washington team got into the playoffs just a couple years ago with their pathetic schedule

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

2023 Washington?

They were 2nd in SOR and 1st in SOS lol. Either the fucking metrics matter or they don’t.

That Washington team also WON their playoff game over Texas.

Edit to add additional context:

2023 Washington has wins @Arizona (14th in final CFP poll), @Oregon State (19th in final CFP poll), and beat Oregon twice (8th in final CFP poll).

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

Checks notes

Yes, that Washington team.

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

The Washington team that went undefeated and won the pac 12 and then beat Texas in the playoffs was bad, actually.

What a world we live in.

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u/That_Union_1105 Ohio State Buckeyes • Virginia Cavaliers Oct 14 '25

This guy is on a roll. He’s replying to everyone and doubling down. It’s kind of impressive in its own degenerative & inbred sort of way. Guy LOVES the SEC.

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

Early morning psychosis on a Tuesday is very sad stuff. We need to be funding mental health care.

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u/jamesknightorion Alabama Crimson Tide • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Oct 14 '25

Yeah that argument against Washington in the comment above is pathetic, Washington was absolutely incredible in 2023 lmao

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u/Tiftz Minnesota Golden Gophers Oct 14 '25

Cook that SEC fraud 🙏

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u/Allamer1719 Oct 14 '25

Minnesota lol

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u/Tiftz Minnesota Golden Gophers Oct 14 '25

Wanna make a comment as to why you don’t even have your team displayed? lol

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u/Allamer1719 Oct 14 '25

Why does it matter? The facts are still there. Minnesota is trash. Ohio St/Michigan/Oregon run that conference.

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u/Tiftz Minnesota Golden Gophers Oct 14 '25

Okay? You are trashing me for not being a bandwagon? Is that why you have no team listed? Just waiting to bandwagon your next team? LOL. I don’t really care about conferences but I think SEC glazers are insufferable and are allergic to thought.

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Factually incorrect and look at their schedule now lmao you’re begging for that horseshit to be ranked

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u/Sharp_Proposal8911 Boise State • Illinois State Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

True, but are we going to talk about ESPN colluding with the SEC and gaslighting the entire country for the last 20 years into thinking that one win in the conference is worth two in any other.

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u/heisenberg423 Chattanooga • Vanderbilt Oct 14 '25

An unbeaten Auburn got left out of the national championship game 20 years ago lol

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u/titanup001 Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

An unbeaten Tennessee was about to be left out of the 1998 bcs title game until ucla and k state both choked on conference title weekend.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Stop using logic, they can’t think critically

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

If that conference is the mountain west then yes

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u/Sharp_Proposal8911 Boise State • Illinois State Oct 14 '25

Rich coming from a school whose dynasty was almost entirely manufactured by the ESPN’s need for ratings. You have no idea what it’s like to beat all the big boys year after year and be told that “actually those teams suck” or “a three loss SEC team is more impressive than a 0 loss Boise”. When we all knew it was just about ratings.

Bro I’ll give you a short list of the teams we beat back in the day. Utah, BYU, Oregon (2x), Virginia Tech, TCU (2x), Oklahoma, and Georgia. Most of which we beat in their home arenas usually on or around week 1. Alabama would have shit itself to have to play on The Blue circa 2010

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

I appreciate the commitment to the bit haha

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u/GreatSuccess9 Oct 14 '25

You should, because IU is currently #1 and OSU is currently #3 lmao

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Washington would be ranked top 15 if they played in the SEC

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Lol

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u/FrogTrainer Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Oct 14 '25

I checked several computers to see where they currently rank Washington

Sagarin: 16

Wolfe: 14

Massey: 17

Colley: 18

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

So 1 of 4 has them top 15

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u/aure__entuluva UCLA Bruins • Michigan Wolverines Oct 14 '25

Come on man. You're ignoring the fact that they're currently unranked.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

I think they should be ranked and they will when they beat Michigan this week 

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u/FrogTrainer Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Oct 14 '25

Doesn't refute what the guy above you says.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Yes it does. The idea of ranking Washington top 15 rn is silly 

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u/FrogTrainer Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Oct 14 '25

Why? They are every bit as good as the teams ranked in that range

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Well first I don’t rank teams off of how good they are. Second they might be. Definitely look like a top 25 team in the nation. 

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u/FrogTrainer Ohio State Buckeyes • Toledo Rockets Oct 14 '25

That makes zero sense

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u/BallsOnFace69 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

Based on what?

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u/MandoShunkar Missouri Tigers Oct 14 '25

I'd go out on a limb and say Mizzou would be the comp they are using. Best games are against a few solid but not high ranked team's (if ranked at all) and their loss is to the best team on their schedule. Mizzou isn't Top 15 any more but at 16 its close enough.

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

I mean Miss St. was 4-0 and had a ranked win over Arizona State and never got ranked themselves.

Missouri is also coming off a much better year and returning talent than Washington who was pretty abysmal last year.

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u/Jarich612 Ohio State Buckeyes • The Game Oct 14 '25

They have the same record and number of ranked wins (0) as Tennessee but they have a higher SOR and SOS. How exactly does that work?

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

5-1 and looked better against OSU than any other team

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u/DerrickWhiteMVP Texas Longhorns Oct 14 '25

Texas lost by one score lol. But I guess losing 24-6 at home is a better showing than losing 14-7 on the road.

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

If you watched the UW game… yea

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u/Woullie_26 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

If they had beaten the caliber of teams they've be playing in a SEC schedule? Absolutely they would

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

“And we know those SEC teams are high caliber cuz they beat other SEC teams”

Yea we’ve all seen you go around this circle before. UW has an equal amount of good wins as Mizzou and their loss was against a much better team.

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u/Woullie_26 Alabama Crimson Tide Oct 14 '25

This is your daily reminder that SEC is currently 10-3 in P4 OOC games including ND. And has a positive record Vs. the Big Ten!!!

While The Big Ten is currently 5-6 against OOC P4

Pipe down

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

P4

Lol I wonder which of the 4 your OOC games are against.

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Notice you didn’t have any comeback for Mizzou vs UW

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

They wouldn’t… the talent on the roster isn’t good enough.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

So where was Tennessee’s talent in the post season last year. You all say this shit then all but 1-2 of you get blown out in the post season

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

I mean it’s not difficult to look at the talent composites. Believe it or not, good football players is a key ingredient into good football teams, not the only ingredient but a key one mind you.

We were 17th last year and got blown out by the team with the 3rd highest talent composite. If anything you’re strengthening my point.

This year Washington sits at 37th. The worst ranked SEC school sits 10 spots better than them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '25

Cope harder

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u/Drummallumin Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

we were 17th last year

Literally proving my point. Y’all were dogshit but still got ranked high cuz of your conference.

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

Uh huh… so is that what you said for Indiana?

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 14 '25

Damn yall must all have shit coaches. All those high ranked recruits last two years and no natties. B1G just has better coachds i guess doing more with less.

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u/Bischoffshof Tennessee Volunteers Oct 14 '25

I mean Ohio State is top 5 year after year in recruiting rankings and Michigan cheated so maybe it’s coaches (though your entire fanbase wanted him gone after the final game of the regular season) or maybe you just got your once a decade title.

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u/FearTheAmish Ohio State • Mississippi State Oct 14 '25

Hey when was your last one?

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u/GreatSuccess9 Oct 14 '25

Indiana would legitimately beat Georgia by 10+ points. Hell Georgia had to be bailed out by the refs against an average auburn team. The good news is we will likely see IU play a sec team in the playoffs so you can bookmark this message!

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u/Designer_Physics151 Ohio State Buckeyes Oct 14 '25

Assuming its Indy and OSU, they already have 4 combined

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u/bwolven Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band Oct 14 '25

Negative brother. Teams that end top 25

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u/AdditionalOne8319 Indiana Hoosiers Oct 14 '25

Tbf plenty of SEC teams end up in the top 25 simply because they’re in SEC

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