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Wife got into an accident

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u/ItsDirkMcGirk 3h ago

Gotta work on that reaction time. Of course I’m not saying it’s the POV drivers fault at all. But anyone could have seen that coming from a mile away.

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u/InevitableOk5017 3h ago

Came to say this. That could have been avoided by faster breaking and even lane departure if you know no one is beside you. Not blaming the driver it was obvious the other drivers fault.

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u/Gesha24 3h ago

Changing lanes is one of the easiest ways to become at fault in the accident. Of course one should change if they have time and they are absolutely sure there's nobody next to them, but otherwise it's usually better to just slam on brakes in your lane. Big exception for this - if you are about to crash into something that can severely hurt you, in this case you are more worried about saving your life/health rather than who is at fault.

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u/Remarkable-Pea5797 3h ago

If you're constantly aware of all of your surroundings and are paying adequate attention, you shouldn't have to guess if the lane is open next to you, you would know. I hate when people hang out in my blind spot because of this.

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u/Cinderbunni 3h ago

THIS! That's how I was taught to drive. A full and quick scan every 30 seconds. Who is on my right, left, who is behind me. People drive like zombies... stare forward and fall asleep.

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u/myfatherthedonkey 3h ago

The situation can change significantly in 30 seconds, no? You'd need to be checking every five seconds or less to constantly be certain who is around you at all times.

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u/Global_Cress3879 2h ago

It can. I think one of the biggest problems is that 90% of people don't use their mirrors correctly. You shouldn't be able to see the sides of your car in your side mirrors, or at minimum just the rear. The point is to have your mirrors set up in overlapping fields of view.

I can watch a car approaching me from behind in my rear view until it goes into my blind spot, at which point it appears in my side mirror, then leaves my mirror view and enters my peripheral vision. I ALWAYS know what's around me without ever turning my head.

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u/Informal_Ad4399 2h ago

Yes, this is the issue a lot.

I took a 1 day defensive driving course at a race track with race instructors. They explained proper mirror adjustments. Looking for and near when driving as well.

First half of day was obstacle avoidance at the last second using flaggers and gates.

Second half was lapping with a ride along instructor.

I already had a pretty good feel for my vehicle (I used my pickup truck for it all), but it helped with some areas I needed shoring up.

Even with a crew cab pickup, my blind spot is just a sliver of a spot. A quick glance to my side that doesn't even really require head movement, and I can see it. That is really a non issue if I'm paying attention at all. I can see someone approach, track them all the way, and know where they'll be. Even a lane change in the blind area is known because they don't appear in the mirrors when they should, or disappear into the spot.

The big thing they taught was avoidance. There are instances you can't of course, but avoidance is much easier if you're properly paying attention and can learn to not panic right away. A lot of people do.

If you can find a class like this near you, I highly suggest it. They're expensive, but if you can avoid even 1 accident by using what you learned, it's worth the cost.

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u/ElfjeTinkerBell 1h ago

That doesn't work in every car. In my car, I can't get the mirrors set in any way that (especially) a motorcycle is visible in either the rear view mirror, the side mirror or my peripheral vision. That's not a problem, I know where to turn my head, but "without moving my head" I have a huge blind spot just by the way my car is designed.

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u/BrunoBraunbart 2h ago

Yes but in this situation you see that car standing there and with experience you develop some kind of intuition that this car might do something stupid. This is when you check your surroundings and get ready to brake.

Obviously this doesn't always work and even though I'm a former test driver I can absolutely see myself reacting the same or worse but on a good day a good driver could have avoided this crash without taking any risk.

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u/blue60007 2h ago

I mean there's always a chance someone could come blasting out of nowhere from behind, but you should still have a good idea without looking around every 2 seconds. Cars don't usually come out of nowhere in a few seconds (well, at least from behind). You'll see them coming up from behind or you pass them waiting to turn onto the road.

I think this is also a situation where if my choice is 100% chance of plowing into someone or a 5% a car came out of nowhere and is hiding in my blind spot, and sideswiping them, I know which choice I'm taking. Getting into a collision is a giant PITA no matter who is at fault.

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u/Elismom1313 2h ago

To be certain, sure. To be reasonably certain? No. And that’s the best case scenario so that’s what we’re going for.

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u/Gesha24 3h ago

I usually have a rough idea if there's somebody next to me, but in this situation I would not be able to say whether the car behind and to the right of me slowed down or not (they may have been on their phone and completely missed the situation). So if there's a car somewhere behind me - I am switching lanes only after I applied brakes and had a chance to look to the right.

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u/Own_Expert2756 2h ago

Yup, try to avoid changing lanes into someone's blindspot and def don't just mindlessly cruise in it.

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u/Interesting_Key_661 2h ago

If I could give more than one upvote to this comment I would. I’ll never understand people who linger in anyone’s blind spots. Either fall back or pass me.

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u/mingk 2h ago

True, but changing lanes is still bad unless it’s a life or death situation. If you lose control then your car barrel rolls and the guy at fault just drives away. If you change lanes and smash the break causing someone to rear end you, you’re at fault. If you veer around an animal on the road just to hit a tree, you’re now at fault.
Insurance companies fucking suck.

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u/Creative-Interest438 1h ago edited 1h ago

This is one reason I try to avoid "Echelon formation"driving.

Or even driving in groups of cars.

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u/wtfover 3h ago

Why don't people know the difference between breaking and braking?

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u/SlappyDingo 3h ago

Their the same word for all intensive purposes.

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u/Affectionate-Kale301 3h ago

Write!

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u/michaelpaoli 2h ago

Brake right there,
or break their write!

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u/eerun165 3h ago

This is called an "eggcorn" same as the above comment which is actually "for all intents and purposes"

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u/applesandotherthings 3h ago

They said the wrong thing on purpose to prove a point

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u/eerun165 3h ago

Yes, this is called an “eggcorn” as I stated above.

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u/your_fave_redditor 2h ago

Oh man, I heard “interior motives” on the new Mike Tyson doc on Netflix. Lol fuckin’ interior motives. Sounds like a car upholstery biz outta L.A. or somethin’ lol

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u/Glowing_Trash_Panda 3h ago

I can’t tell if your usage of the incorrect word (it’s “they’re”, not “their” in this case) is intentional trolling or genuine illiteracy

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u/broberds 3h ago

Your absolutely rite.

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u/wilkins0727 2h ago

I can’t tell if your omission of any reference to the incorrect word “intensive” is intentional or simply ironic. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/downvotetheboy 3h ago

they’re trolljng

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 2h ago

The use of intensive instead of “intents and” gives it away.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 1h ago

You are far less literate than he is if you don't see the 5 grammar jokes in his comment.

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u/Randall_Flagg5 2h ago

Eye sea watt ewe did they're

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u/warren_stupidity 2h ago

in tents and propoises

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u/GrynaiTaip 2h ago

God, dam it!

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u/apeschittcrazy 2h ago

Nice. Some of us can see what you did they're. 😂

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u/c2rsucks 2h ago

They are at piece with there ignorance.

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u/mark8992 2h ago

Braking first, then breaking.

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u/afd33 2h ago

Why don’t people know the difference between loose and lose? At least braking and breaking sound the same.

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u/Odd_Phone_2391 1h ago

They should of been taught it in school.

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u/Consistent_Swim8683 1h ago

There just putting there lives in there hands! Write?

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u/kiba8442 2h ago

yeah it's weird, you can hear the abs when the brakes get applied bc she slams them, it's so late.. was she looking at her phone or something?

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u/ogonzal4 2h ago edited 1h ago

A distraction inside the car could have been at fault for not letting her see this accident coming half a mile away.

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u/InevitableOk5017 2h ago

Like being on the cell or something. Very plausible.

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u/A_Nonny_Muse 1h ago

Believe it or not, a professional driver would be charged with that collision. The question asked of a pro driver is "what could the driver have done to prevent the collision". And, as everyone points out, there were plenty the POV could have done to prevent it.

Amateur drivers get away with a lot more than professionals do. Even when they break no law.

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u/HydratedCarrot 1h ago

Probs using the phone as she drives. I’ve seen it before

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u/Cleon_42_Klonja 43m ago

 lane departure 

Exactly! Why was she driving in the inner lane all the time? Isn't there a "keep right" rule like we have in Europe

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u/Still_ImBurning86 3h ago

So what are you saying? Driver should and could have avoided it?

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u/snarksneeze 3h ago

Not saying she should, only that she could have.

Sometimes being right doesn't mean you have to accept damage. The graveyard is full of people who were right.

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u/fennis_dembo 3h ago

I would agree that she could have avoided it. I'm struggling to come up with why she shouldn't have, though.

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u/UndeadT 3h ago

Internet points.

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u/snarksneeze 3h ago

All we can see is the forward POV, we don't know what was coming up beside or behind her. Switching lanes to avoid an accident can create another accident at which you would be at fault for not maintaining lane control. So I can't say she should have, but it looks like she could have.

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u/Joeltron88 3h ago

No problem switching lanes after impact. Guess it was wide open.

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u/NeatFool 3h ago

Bingo

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u/snarksneeze 3h ago

Perhaps, or perhaps anyone beside her was braking too and gave her the space, no way of knowing unless OP responds back. Until then, "should" is a word I am going to avoid.

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u/mark8992 2h ago

Braking ”too”? Maybe they were paying attention and saw the driver start to pull out into traffic and were the only one to hit the brakes.

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u/Past_Effect8301 3h ago

Have you ever been a witness to an accident? Any cars near her likely would have stopped, too, when the accident occurred. (Look at the oncoming traffic for an example of this. They're completely stopped.)

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u/OperationNo3651 3h ago

It’s easy to say in hindsight that this could’ve been avoided. The minivan was being very unpredictable and second-guessed themselves based on its behavior entering the intersection. I’m going to guess she had a car to the right of her so the only thing she could do was break. There wasn’t enough time and distance for her vehicle to go at a complete stop to avoid that minivan. Avoidable or not, she is not at fault.

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u/puahaw 3h ago

Her awareness is sub-average. She barely reacted until it was way too late.

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u/kronikheadband 3h ago

Probably on her phone..

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u/TheDrummerMB 2h ago

You can hear her gasp - that's when she looked back up lmfao

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u/mark8992 2h ago

I’d put a $10 bet that she had her phone in her hand and didn’t see it coming until too late to take action.

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u/Aser_swec 3h ago

Feelings. Some people are governed by their feelings. Was in an accident with my father in law driving and he could have avoided it but got pissed at first by the other driver having the nerve to... oh shit we'll crash he soon realized after a few seconds and then it was too late to avoid it. Similar situation as this (really old guy in an old heavy American car was at fault). Had he been cool he would have had a couple of seconds spare to brake before the crossing. Always assume the other drivers are idiots, drunks and half blind and act accordingly.

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u/ProjectDv2 3h ago

You're not saying it, but I am. She absolutely could have avoided it, and because of that she absolutely should have. You have a responsibility to avoid collisions on the road, full stop. Whole the other guy was an idiot for pulling it into traffic without paying attention, apparently she wasn't paying attention either. I guarantee, if the insurance company is shown this footage, she will be declared a not insignificant percentage of the fault.

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u/Still_ImBurning86 3h ago

So from an insurance standpoint, who is at fault?

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u/snarksneeze 3h ago

The person who entered the roadway without right of way, not the person who maintained lane control.

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u/WriterPlastic9350 3h ago

Insurance operates off the last clear chance doctrine, not the law.

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u/LoisLaneCA 3h ago

Sad but true! A car hit me going the WRONG direction in a parking lot, & I was still assessed 10% under the last clear chance doctrine! WTAF?

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u/WriterPlastic9350 3h ago

Probably the driver who pulled out.

But keep in mind that this is a school crossing. Kids can and do run erratically across roads like this and are way quicker. even if op doesn’t end up determined fault by insurance there’s still steps they can take to avoid it next time

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u/Junior_Use_4470 3h ago

Well if she could avoid it then she should avoid it.

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u/saxguy9345 3h ago

You can see that little silver Yaris or whatever it is inching out for like 10 seconds before the impact. She was definitely not paying attention to the road, especially by a school like that. Looks like HS students getting out, recipe for disasters like this. 

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u/Degenerecy 3h ago

I agree on the inching out part but the school light wasn't flashing. I know they aren't 100% as ours for a couple years stopped working because the city didn't want to pay the programmers which was done by the local college.

However it is noon and it could be HS students gong out for lunch hour so it is possible though. Still, 100% avoidable.

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u/saxguy9345 3h ago

The only time I CAUSED an accident was pulling out of my HS at dismissal, and I was mad at the other driver for like a week. I know better now and cringe hard, and also watch those little mofos like a hawk when I'm in a school zone. 

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u/NeatFool 3h ago

It's a scion Xa damnit!

Basically a crypto Toyota Yaris haha

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u/Olliegreen__ 3h ago

We’ve seen people on here avoid accidents with much less time.

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u/CultOfSensibility 3h ago

A little anticipation goes a long way. I expect other drivers to be idiots because they usually are.

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u/GuardingxCross 3h ago

Absolutely, a toddler could have slammed the brakes faster than that. Still the silver cars fault though and the dash cam is enough proof.

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u/TomatoFeta 3h ago

I'd suggest the dash cam footage is also enough to cause concern for the insurance company who views it. They will certainly bump the premiums as high as possible, given the slow response to the hazard.

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u/rageoflittledogs 2h ago

I think it's obvious that your wife was going over the 20mph limit and will be assigned some blame in this.

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u/SnooPets8873 3h ago

Not about fault, more about, “I hope she takes more care because there are super careless people around her on the road and being right won’t save your life”

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u/Ok-Lawfulness1515 3h ago

Hitting the NPC behind the wheel of the other car is more trouble than its worth.

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u/Chazus 3h ago

I mean... I'd say should have too.

Is it their fault? no. Could they have avoided it and taken the action to do so? Sure.

Honestly, liability might put both at blame.

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u/MostlyPlastics 3h ago

Yes. She could have. And she should have.

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u/scdog 3h ago

It’s easier to see it coming from a mile away when you’ve been told ahead of time there’s going to be a crash. At most she might have been able to hit the brakes a quarter second sooner but that wouldn’t have changed anything.

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u/TheMomentOfInertia 3h ago

Yeah, I’m not sure about all the armchair quarterbacking going on. I have the right away. I’m doing the speed limit. This person pulled out three car lengths from the intersection. NTAH haha

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u/RemarkableCrows 3h ago

Completely agree. If you aren't anticipating, there really wasn't much time to react. I think she did OK given the situation she was handed

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u/ZieAerialist 3h ago

Yep, everyone peacocking about how thoroughly avoidable this was is very unaware of their hindsight bias - especially if the driver was glancing elsewhere appropriately (like checking mirrors or dash or oncoming traffic) it would give enough of a lag that there's nothing that could be done, it was only possibly avoidable.

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u/PuzzleheadPi 3h ago

In hindsight, everything is obvious

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u/JavanTen4 3h ago

A lot can happen during the time it takes to glance at the radio or a side mirror

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u/kadoodaloodlez 2h ago

Yeah that car went from stopped to the middle of the road faster than they taught us to check mirrors in drivers ed. There's only so much you can do when people drive that idiotically.

Her reaction time was fast enough to prevent a direct t-bone to the driver's side door, I consider that a win. Can't expect every single person to have perfect reflexes 100% of the time.

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u/GiveMeNews 59m ago

Defensive driving requires tracking everything that could be a hazard 10 to 15 seconds down the road. It is just good practice to make a mental note of any vehicle that is positioned to pull out and monitor them as you approach. Yeah, it doesn't always work, but could have in this situation.

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u/Palliewallie 3h ago

To be fair, we were waiting for it to happen, I guess we probably also wouldn't have reacted instantly

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u/Enough-Row-5346 3h ago

No, I infact agree with the wife, the driver that got hit, is in fact, fucking stupid.

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u/notSherrif_realLife 3h ago

No one is saying he isn’t. The other driver is fucking stupid, and is at fault. No question about it.

However, two things can be true at the same time. She absolutely should have avoided this collision by hitting the breaks, easily

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u/Centorior 2h ago

Friendly reminder you're watching a video EXPECTING to see a crash. There were less than 4 seconds in the clip from whence the culprit started moving out onto the road until the impact.

You didn't have the breaking distance required if you kept in lane. Willing to bet in real life over 50% of drivers wouldn't have been able to safely avoid it.

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u/EveryAccount7729 3h ago

"Of course I’m not saying it’s the POV drivers fault at all. But anyone could have seen that coming from a mile away."

dude, you're like using Civilization 6 diplomacy tactics

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u/Far-Crow-7195 2h ago

Driver was braking within 2 seconds of the car pulling out. That’s a normal human reaction time. The eye isn’t watching everything the way a wide angle lens does either - our peripheral vision isn’t as good. The lens also makes everything seem faster and further away. Driver really couldn’t have done much about that.

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u/carnedoce 3h ago

I thought the other car was going to make a right hand turn when they first started moving.

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u/BigNachos7 3h ago

I counted about 3 seconds from when the car starting pulling out to when the accident happened. Considering it takes about 4 seconds to react and brake completely at 40 mph, it doesn't seem that bad. By pulling out so slowly, it made it really awkward to avoid since you can't tell if they're going to stop, in which case you can avoid to the left, or keep going so that you can avoid to the right.

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u/Pernicious_Possum 3h ago

That’s eighty percent of these videos. Yeah, the person in the fit is an idiot, but there was more than enough time to stop. It’s like people think they’re incapable of doing the smart thing because someone else did the dumb thing

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u/Extension-Shake-8475 3h ago

I saw it coming a mile away I first thought it was gonna be the white truck on the right just from my personal experience I analyze every possible situation and think they are gonna do something stupid cuz they always do. But definitely not drivers fault at all I just drive super defensive cuz I know people are stupid and that’s exactly why I have a dashcam as well cuz every terrible driver like that idiot that caused the accident just expects you to yield to them taking over the road

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u/Dialogical 3h ago

She's talking to herself and the driver she hit.

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u/GOPhatessmartgurls 3h ago

Other driver is at fault. They pulled out when lanes weren't clear. Also your wife wasn't paying attention but thats besides the point.

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u/SOUNDDESIGNE 2h ago

it’s the lens distortion on those tiny cameras.

it’s not as far as it looks. and a better reaction time cannot fix the recklessness of other drivers.

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u/Fine-Government9216 2h ago

from a previous life - everyone has a plan until the firing starts

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u/IzzzatSo 3h ago

Accident was so bad it destroyed your ability to edit a video down to a reasonable size.

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u/ThickSecretary7417 3h ago

I kinda like when they’re long like this, i try to see if the accident or problem car catches me off guard. This one came from a mile away

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u/coldchile 3h ago

Same here, I enjoy it

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u/BafflingHalfling 3h ago

Probably just trying to avoid the inevitable "wHaT hApPenED bEfoRe ThIs?" trolls

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u/dolphin37 3h ago

perhaps he has the same reaction time as his wife, so to him it felt like the crash happens at the start of the video

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u/glowend 2h ago

Why on earth would your entitled self think any owes you that??

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u/Mooman-Chew 2h ago

I had Monty python’s ‘get in with it’ playing in the back of my mind

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u/SweetTreatToEat 3h ago

Your wife really wanted a new car with how late she was to brake

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u/804k 3h ago

I wouldn't say its horrible, just something that might need a bit of work

Just be glad they're in a car and not on a motorcycle

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u/Duergarlicbread 3h ago

It was horrible.

Maybe she expected them to get out of her way. But she didn't react for like 4 seconds and it was very clear they would be in her way. She didn't even try and miss them

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u/twannerson 3h ago

the time is at the bottom. It’s 2 secs from when the car starts moving until impact. :59-:01.

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u/IrishWeebster 3h ago edited 1h ago

The silver car's wheels are behind the painted line at :35, but they've already released the brakes and are beginning to roll forward. The silver car is fully past the painted lines at :34. POV car makes contact with the silver car at almost EXACTLY :31. The POV car had 5 full seconds of enough information to prepare and evade.

The silver car is legally at fault since the POV car has legal right of way.

The POV is an inattentive and unprepared driver that needs to go take defensive driving courses.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 3h ago

She also needs to learn that you don't pull off the road onto the sidewalk. Basics.

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u/JimbozGrapes 2h ago

Yeah I am almost always one to defend cam person in these accident videos, this one is hard to justify. By my count, it was 4-5 seconds they had to react, looks like they didn't even hit the breaks when the vehicle was right in front of them. Then pulling off onto the sidewalk makes me think they are not a quality driver.

As others said, clearly the other vehicles fault, but this was very likely avoidable.

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u/ProtecMyBawls 3h ago

Yeah idk what these people are seeing

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u/bwood246 3h ago

This subreddit doesn't seem to grasp that in some cases neither driver should be behind the wheel.

The yaris pulled out into incoming traffic and cam car Leroy Jenkins'd right into it despite having ample time to react

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 3h ago

That was 4 seconds between when the car started pulling out and she hit the brakes. That's horrible. That could have easily been avoided.

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u/Regular-Disaster-979 3h ago

Not horrible? She has zero reaction time

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u/OSS-Corpo-Shit 2h ago

Dude. 5 entire seconds to react and not reacting is absolutely horrible by every measure. And that’s ignoring the 10 whole seconds that a defensive driver sees this. 

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u/Chucktheduck 3h ago

This is reddit. We say "break" here. Get with the times, old man.

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u/Shot_Strawberry_2212 3h ago

I think the camera is pointed too low, we need more sky in this video.

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u/moon_moon_doggo 3h ago edited 3h ago

After seeing the new Tesla Roadster reveal I don't blame her.

Edit: Also, if she was driving the new roadster, the FSD could have avoided that.

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u/Strange_Dingo1987 3h ago

Imagine pulling out in front of someone on accident, and they just kickflip their own car over you

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u/AskingFooAFriend 3h ago

She had a whole year to slow down.

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u/FlatAmbition3757 3h ago

You could have easily cut the time of that video in half for us.

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u/SwordfishOk504 3h ago

And she could have easily stopped in time if she she were paying attention.

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u/mb-driver20 3h ago

My thoughts exactly!

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u/bamaugking 3h ago

Yea just creep out into on coming traffic 🤦🏿‍♂️. Smh like why

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u/cunexttuesday101 2h ago

Everytime i drive my husband and I have to wait to get onto a road hes all, "you could have made that!". Im like yeah, maybe. But id rather wait 30 more seconds to have more room.

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u/MysteriousEvent3694 48m ago

Agreed. I’d rather say “I should have gone” than “I should not have gone”

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u/CuriousCat511 2h ago

I see this all the time in my area and it drives me insane. They will pull out, then sit there waiting for an opening while blocking all oncoming traffic.

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u/Acceptable656 3h ago

The honda just assumed traffic would stop if they blundered out into the middle of the road.

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u/bamaugking 3h ago

😂😂😭 like fr all slow n shiiii

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u/65variant 3h ago

Looks more like a Scion xA.

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u/PastVeterinarian1097 2h ago

I mean it normally will if people are paying attention

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u/Background-Ad3308 3h ago

They indeed are "fucking stupid"

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u/Traditional-Buy-2205 3h ago

This must be one of the slowest reactions I ever saw.

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u/SaleFamiliar1789 3h ago

6 Second reaction time.

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u/Organic-Mix-5784 3h ago

Do her brakes not work?

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u/schnaab 3h ago

Why did your wife break at the very last moment and not when the car was coming out? (I know the other party is at fault)

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u/Adventurous_Elk_4039 3h ago

She clearly wasn’t looking

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u/tobebettertobepure 3h ago

that's a bit concerning considering it was right in front of her.

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u/Adventurous_Elk_4039 2h ago

If you go down the highway and look at other drivers, I swear it feels like at least a quarter of them are on their damn phones

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u/MrTristanClark 2h ago

If that crosswalk had been in use the wife here absolutely wouldve splattered a whole class of 10 year olds without even noticing.

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u/srdnss 2h ago

Most states liability would be shared. She was either distracted or deliberately failed to avoid the collision. Last chance doctrine comes into play here.

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u/wilkins0727 1h ago

Yup, she is clearly guilty of failure to avoid a collision, and the other driver is guilty of failure to yield right-of-way.

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u/throwaway983143 3h ago

While I agree that other driver was fuckin stupid, I don’t get why she would stop on the sidewalk.

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u/Hello_Gorgeous1985 3h ago

I'm shocked that you're the only other person I've seen mention this. I don't trust This woman's judgment behind the wheel at all. She also could have easily avoided the accident by hitting the brakes 5 seconds earlier.

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u/angry_green_elephant 1h ago

This. She’s definitely not at fault for this accident, but she is the type of driver to pull over and all the way onto the sidewalk.

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u/cozzster 3h ago

Got that T-bone surprise. But wasn’t really a surprise.

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u/padizzledonk 3h ago

Bro

She had like 900 years to get on the brakes lol

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u/exig 3h ago

Put the phone down, lady

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u/Physical-Builder-553 3h ago

I don't think I'd be sharing this video with the insurance company.

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u/zeppelin_64 3h ago

Tell me she's on her phone without telling me she's on her phone...

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u/tacoburritos 3h ago

can't blame her for causing the accident, but you can definitely blame her for not avoiding it.

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u/Wojtek1250XD 3h ago

Cammer did attempt to avoid the accident, their reaction was just pathetically slow.

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u/Pushnikov 3h ago

There was literally 4.5 seconds from seeing the car move to the accident. If she had slowed down at any point it would’ve passed. If your reaction time is that slow, don’t drive. You can seriously harm people, children, dogs, etc.

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u/DefiantCharacter 3h ago

Half of not getting into an accident is not doing something stupid. The other half is avoiding other people's stupid decisions.

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u/Turbulent_Shoe_44 3h ago

Cam car reaction time only worse than OP’s ability to edit the intro length of this video.

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u/_jump_yossarian 3h ago

Here come the idiots blaming the cammer.

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u/stylerod 3h ago

Some accidents are most likely avoidable. Like this one. That slow reaction time was terrible. The accident was not her fault, but was avoidable.

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u/Material-Western6870 3h ago

Exactly imagine if it wasn’t a car but a child. You need to have reaction time. She drives like a 90 year old behind the wheel. Dangerous for everyone on the road

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u/Natetronn 2h ago

A lot of time to slow down. A lot of time to slam on the brakes. And a lot of time to avoid the other car by swerving to the right.

Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm not a lawyer nor am I two insurance companies battling it out, but I think the other insurance company is going to do whatever they can to lower the percentage of responsiblity their client holds. I think it's something like determining comparative fault. And they might be able to do that based on OP's wife having plenty of time to stop, or at least try to stop by slamming on her brakes, or swerving, or really anything to avoid the accident, but didn't.

They might not claim it was outright the fault of OP's wife, but they'll try their hardest to get some sort of split here by lessening the responsibility of the car that pulled out and placing that squarely back on OP's wife. Unless my understanding that it's everyone's responsibility to do whatever they can to avoid an accident is incorrect, they may actually have a claim for something like an 80-20% split here (numbers are made up to make a point, not exact numbers; 80 other, 20 OP's wife). Especially if they see this video themselves.

Again, I don't know for sure, but that's my understanding of how things can play out in some of these cases.

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u/Me0w981 3h ago

Well yeah, obviously the car was creeping out, but, at least driving in LA, people be doing that. Pulling out into a lane that's free preparing to make a left turn after the next lane frees up. It's really fucking annoying because there's a part of me that's wondering if they're gonna do the dumb shit the blue car here did.

That is to say, I can totally see how it would be unexpected for this car to keep creeping out into a lane where a car would be instead of just up to the edge of the free lane, if that makes sense.

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u/Traditional-Buy-2205 3h ago

Here comes the idiot thinking that driver A should be exempt from all criticism just because driver B is the one who caused the accident.

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u/Adventurous_Elk_4039 3h ago

Both drivers can be bad.

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u/automaticmantis 2h ago

They both are

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u/GreenT1979 3h ago

If you could have avoided it easily and don't, you take some fault.

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u/itchybutwhole69 3h ago

Nobody in the comments is blaming the cammer. They are, however, pointing out that she had plenty of time to avoid it all together. There's a difference.

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u/Reasonable_Drink_789 2h ago

Not blame, just reasonable criticism

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u/YetAnotherBart 3h ago

Idiots? You mean people who know how to drive, how to anticipate dangerous situations? People who know how to read the road and act accordingly?

But I guess this video is an example of what you get when uncle Joe is your "driving instructor"

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u/Character-Ask2432 3h ago

So I’m usually you in the comments and while I’m not blaming the cam car this accident may have been avoided by being more proactive with the brakes and slowing down. When I’m approaching situations like this, im hovering my foot over the brakes and watching the other driver closely - where their eyes are looking, where their tires are pointing, are they stopped or edging forward etc.

In this case, the cam driver had enough time to brake and let the stupid can go by. But not the cam car’s fault the accident happened. While it’s not, I think drivers also have a duty of care to avoid accidents if they safely can.

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u/EdmontonLAD 3h ago

Why yes, yes they are

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u/Far-Joke5980 2h ago

why are so many blaming the reaction time
ofc it wasn't the greatest and it could be avoided, but it's still not op's (wife) fault..
why mock the victim

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u/LiftRepairMan 3h ago

I’m not putting blame on op but there are two lanes. If they had been paying attention to the road fully they easily could have switched lanes. Or breaking right away would have helped too. Not assigning blame to a person driving in their own lane but still. I mean did you want to teach them a lesson?

Edited for punctuation.

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u/EveryAccount7729 3h ago

Bro divorce.

the driving and the talking

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u/Watermelonbuttt 3h ago

Still turning vehicle 100% negligent

Doesn’t matter how late she braked

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u/chill_lax_bruh 54m ago

Parking on the sidewalk makes me think the driver behind the cam is a fucking idiot.

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u/H3L105_ai 3h ago

This was 100% avoidable.

Anytime I see a car - I just assume they are going to pull out.

If they don't then I'm pleasantly surprised.

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u/Pangshunjingmao 3h ago

Why did she pull onto the sidewalk and someone's lawn? Is your wife "slow", u/Superior_Seeker_ ?

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u/bajajoaquin 3h ago

These things are hard because the dash cam makes it hard to see what reaction is happening. However, if I look at the level of the curb along the edge of the video frame it appears to be a second and a half where we can both clearly see the car pulling out and the curb not move relative to the frame. That says in a second and a half there was no significant braking occurring.

That seems too long to be reaction time. It appears that she either wasn’t paying adequate attention or was being aggressive about her lane space and then got caught by the other driver’s inability to clear the lane in time.

So while the other guy clearly pulled out into traffic unsafely, I think your wife didn’t adequately act to avoid him.

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u/Hazy-n-Lazy 2h ago

Posting your own wife on this sub is hilarious