r/videogames • u/AlmightyLoaf54 • Aug 12 '26
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u/Chaoscrazy-55 Aug 12 '26
"Indeed"
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u/DarePatient2262 Aug 12 '26
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u/Old-Arachnid77 Aug 12 '26
This just makes his plastic surgery choices all the more regrettable
He is one of the best voice actors in gaming though. Fucking legend.
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u/Smyley Aug 12 '26
He spoke more in this video than in the entirety of stargate
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u/MuhfugginSaucera Aug 12 '26
Ok fine I'll watch it again
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u/ContextHook Aug 12 '26
Atlantis is currently free on YouTube! Jason Mamoa minus 20 years!
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u/CMDRTragicAllPro Aug 12 '26
Currently rewatching Atlantis. You could tell me Jason momoa filmed it no more than 5 years ago and I’d believe it. Dudes barely aged
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u/Freud-Network Aug 12 '26
He had a fair amount of dialogue in The Changeling, season 6 episode 19 of Stargate: SG-1. Teal'c dreams he is a human firefighter.
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u/braumbles Aug 12 '26
It's not just games. When they made the John Wick show the Continental, they didn't bother talking to or consulting anyone actually affiliated with the John Wick series. Same for Ballerina, which the production got so bad, they inevitably just called Stahelski to direct the 2nd half of the movie in reshoots.
This is effectively producers thinking they know better than anyone else and nothing more.
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u/IvanPines3106 Aug 12 '26
I enjoyed Ballerina, but didn't know it went through production hell dang
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u/thedellis Aug 12 '26
I completely forgot about this one, too. Did anyone watch it?
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u/Thejollyfrenchman Aug 12 '26
Ballerina turned out pretty good, especially considering that there were reshoots. I suppose it's hard to mess up an action film so long as the action is good.
Haven't seen the Continental but I heard it's decent.
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u/True_Protection6842 Aug 12 '26
Dude, I have been saying this for YEARS!!! When they cast Marky Mark as Max Payne when the actor that did his voice WAS ALREADY AN AWESOME ACTOR and looked SO COOL. Tell me this guy wouldn't have BLOWN Wahlberg out of the water!!! But these hack writers and directors all think they know more than the creators and actors from the games. And the results are trash.
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u/ProwessTDaddy Aug 12 '26
The guy from Rescue Me did his voice??
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u/PsychotropicTraveler Aug 12 '26
Hell yeah he did, James McCaffrey. RIP to a legend.
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u/ProwessTDaddy Aug 12 '26
That is insane. I can hear Jimmy O'Keefe now, its just a lot more gravelly and gruff. So epic. I did not even realize it.
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u/Ghaleon32 Aug 12 '26
His car tv show was also awesome, Viper.
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u/SocialHypnosis Aug 12 '26
RIP James. Still hurts.
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u/Illustrious_Ear_3467 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
Yea I found out a few months ago that he passed back in 2023. I was surprised that I didn’t know about it sooner.
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u/ReMeDyIII Aug 12 '26
Reminds me of Rocky 1. Sylvester Stallone wrote the script and wanted to be in the movie himself, since he felt no one could do a better job than him. Hollywood loved the script, but hated the idea of having Stallone star in his own film. Hollywood wanted to star more recognizable faces.
Stallone had to negotiate down to become the star, so execs settled on making it a film with a "small" budget of $1 million that debuted in select test theaters and Stallone was only paid a flat fee of just $35,000 upfront to cover both writing the script and starring as Rocky. Thankfully, Stallone negotiated a 10% net profit contract clause for the film.
Anyways, my point is we might not even be talking about Rocky as a franchise today if Stallone had simply sold the script. Hollywood is too afraid to take chances. That's why Pedro Pascal is in so many films.
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u/WouldbeWanderer Aug 12 '26
Our only consolation is that Pedro Pascal is a decent actor and not an asshole, which is apparently rare in Hollywood.
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u/KeremyJyles Aug 12 '26
Decent in his own very limited wheelhouse. Yet they insist on dragging him outside that for things like tlou and f4
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u/Soreal45 Aug 12 '26
I refused to watch the movie just based on them casting Wahlberg for the role.
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u/GODDAMNFOOL Aug 12 '26
Marky Mark's whiny voice ruined everything. Imagine him delivering the line, "They were all dead."
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u/MongolianDonutKhan Aug 12 '26
Hollywood does not respect video games. They barely respects books enough that if the author forces the issue they'll let them in otherwise they'll throw them aside too.
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u/WhutTheFookDude Aug 12 '26
I think we're in the same place with video game adaptations that we were with comic book movies before like Spiderman 2 and honestly until the mcu blew up. They dont respect the material and dont take it seriously its just cashing in. Dont get me wrong as someone who did not play tlou I thought the show was pretty good but I get why fans of the game wouldnt like it.
They dont respect these actors as actors or writers as writers or games as art
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u/GlancingArc Aug 12 '26
Shit man, Hollywood execs don't respect the Hollywood writers much less writers from other industries.
Somehow they have all been convinced that good writing is the absolute last thing you need to make a good movie.
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u/Embarrassed_Cod8120 Aug 12 '26
I think the most interesting thing about Spiderman specifically.
The Spider-Man movies (both Tom Holland and Spider-Verse)
DO like the games and make a lot of references to the games and I wonder how much of that has to do with them both being under Sony.
It's maybe Mario, Sonic, Spiderman are the only places where the movies actually do care about the video games
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u/PhanThief95 Aug 12 '26
Live action adaptations of anime are also in the same boat.
It’s still crazy that One Piece of all anime is one of the ones to show people how it can be done right.
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u/ropahektic Aug 12 '26
With books it makes certain sense.. because of money.
Per example, House of Dragon (heavily criticised online) in one season made more than Martin made in all his life selling all his books.
So suits will pat each other in the back and say, we are genius salesmen, we take ideas and make them gold.
When it comes to videogames such as God of War though I dunno how they convince themselves, probably by the fact they still dont respect videogames.
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u/wild--wes Aug 12 '26
I feel like typically the people making the movies/shows in these universes don't actually care about them as much as the fans wish they did. It's an existing IP that will bring in guaranteed viewers regardless of how good it actually is, simple as that.
Also I wonder if he's trying to get himself hired to play live action Kratos haha
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u/ChanglingBlake Aug 12 '26
Yep.
They’re only making the show/movie because they know it will make money.
What I don’t get is how they fail to comprehend that making a piss poor adaptation might make you money once, but a great adaptation will spawn sequels and make you money several times.
Crapitalists are incapable of thinking long term and focus solely on the current project as if it’s the last thing anyone will ever make.
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u/Illustrious_Ear_3467 Aug 12 '26
I’m surprised that this is my first time reading the term *Crapitalist*.
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u/Mr_Mental_Gamer Aug 12 '26
No. In the same interview he said: I don't wanna play Kratos in the show, I'm 60 now, I can't anymore.
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u/prossnip42 Aug 12 '26
The only exception to this is Fallout. Even if you don't like the show, there's no way you can watch season 1 and 2 without going "Yeah, whoever made this loves the games"
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u/J5892 Aug 12 '26
The funny thing is Microsoft didn't even know they were going to be faithful to the games.
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u/sarcasmsosubtle Aug 12 '26
I don't know. Could you really picture Christopher Judge in a live action series...like one that could run ten seasons plus two movies and spin off two additional series in the same universe?
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u/Nukleon Aug 12 '26
That was 20-30 years ago also. I don't think he's as physically able as he was back then. Like yeah he mocaps a lot of Kratos but I guarantee not all the stuff that could cause an injury, because that would delay production.
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u/Yeseylon Aug 12 '26
Now ask him how he feels about Amazon killing the Stargate show from Gero.
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u/excaliburxvii Aug 12 '26
WHAT, THIS IS HOW I LEARN THIS?!?! FUCK!
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u/thellios Aug 12 '26
Wait till you read the reasons they mentioned. You'll get more angry than you are now. As a Sg1 fan, fuck Hollywood.
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u/BackgroundSummer5171 Aug 12 '26
As a Sg1 fan
Oh, great, they've now cancelled it again since reading that.
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u/ckellingc Aug 12 '26
He's right. They do it because Hollywood has a formula that prints money and doesn't care about the IP. You follow the formula, you don't ask questions, you get the check. No room for creativity or risk
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u/reggienaldsimons Aug 12 '26
And the formula doesn't even work here! The fans don't like it because it's different, and new audiences don't like it because they never cared in the first place
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u/BonJovicus Aug 12 '26
I think there is an argument to be made that writing for video games and writing for TV/movies is different.
But I also think it’s clear Hollywood has very little respect for video games as a story telling medium. They see these franchises as ways to cash in for a quick buck.
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u/Confidentium Aug 12 '26
It’s not that different anymore though, since so many game stories are written like movies nowadays. So they’re already perfect for the big screen as is.
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u/spartakooky Aug 13 '26
Yeah this argument would work for like Mario movies, but GoW and TLOU work as movies already.
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u/ReaperManX15 Aug 12 '26
Vanity.
The director and writers want to make the beloved legacy IP "theirs".
It's like the chuckle-fucks at Amazon thinking they can rewrite Tolkien, better.
They think they're better than they are.
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u/Glutton4Butts Aug 12 '26
They just want to rip off someone else success. Honestly wouldn't care if the show got canceled. No idea why anyone wants to push it at all. Normies could just play the games instead of just watching a show that doesn't do the game justice. You don't get to be Kratos in the show.
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u/Iggy_Slayer Aug 12 '26
I actually agree about the last of us. I only watched season 1 and I felt like multiple key scenes in that were worse than the game, with more wooden acting than what troy and ashley were able to do.
This was considered a hot take back then I dunno if it is now since everyone hates the show thanks to season 2.
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u/Caleb_Reynolds Aug 12 '26
TLoU seems like a weird hill too build this argument on because Ashley absolutely could not play live action Elle. She's great but, Elle is a teenager, Ashley was in her late 30s.
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u/BlueberryWasps Aug 12 '26
also, they worked directly with the original creator, gave troy baker a meaty side role, and were passionate fans of the games - the show was very faithful to them. bizarre example. especially implying that pedro pascal isn’t a good actor and didn’t nail it.
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u/mizvixen Aug 12 '26
Even Ashley had a minor role as Ellie’s mom.
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u/RealRedditPerson Aug 12 '26
Which she said was one of the most fulfilling in her career. Getting to literally be the character who have birth to this character she's treasured and cared for for over a decade.
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u/Digit00l Aug 12 '26
I got reminded of a tangent somewhere in this chain, but not entirely sure which comment to put it on, but I do find it funny that in the Legend of Vox Machina season 4 they put in a joke that refers back to an infamous line from the Last of Us season 2, where Ashley's character makes a comment about how she would be a great dad
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u/sweetrobbyb Aug 12 '26
But they kept the creator of the last of us on as a head writer and even had him direct several episodes. So...not a great use case for the point this dude is trying to make :D
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u/cae37 Aug 12 '26
What I’ve appreciated from the show is that it grounded the story with more realism. Joel is no longer John Rambo and Ellie is no longer John Rambo Jr. in that they’re unstoppable one-person armies.
That and I enjoyed the extra scenes we got. Like in TLoU1 Joel and Ellie spend very little time in Jackson before taking off in the game, but in the show we get additional scenes including a one-on-one conversation b/w Joel and Tommy. Not to mention Bill’s story in S1 and Eugene in S2.
There are parts of it that don’t hold up as well to the games, but there is also lots that generally does.
Didn’t deserve the hate, imo.
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u/cody422 Aug 12 '26
This is probably gonna sound a little bit like an #ad but Apple TV has, so far, been the number 1 major streaming service/production company that has stayed extremely faithful to the properties they produce and work with the original creators as much as possible. Now, they haven't made much based on video games, mostly books afaik, but they would be the best people to go to for a faith adaptation as of 2026. Murderbot (based on a book), Silo (based on a book), they will be making a Stormlight Archive with author Brandon Sanderson having a lot of say in the production, etc. They seem like the want to tell the original story in a different format with as little changes as possible.
I won't judge the show before I see it, but of the things Mr. Judge has said in the video, I think Apple TV would have been the place to go for a God of War show to be made with the original creators in mind.
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u/FullMetalCOS Aug 12 '26
Apple TV has really high production values too. They absolutely leaned into quality over quantity, and whilst they still miss (the new cape fear show is festering shite) their hit rate seems much higher than other streaming services
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u/guynye Aug 12 '26
Hollywood literally felt allergic to fan service for decades. We are barely getting it now, and it's such a pretentious notion why.
This is what happens when anything gets too big, studios, apps, businesses. They think they know what people want more, the more disconnected they become.
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u/falcrist2 Aug 12 '26
Fan service just means including material specifically to please fans, like an easter egg or a cameo. Hollywood is fine doing that kind of thing.
If you want Hollywood to actively involve the people who care most about the IP they're adapting, you have to sneak them into the production somehow.
It's one of the stupidest things about the movie industry. They WANT another Lord of the Rings, but they've built a system in which that kind of movie is impossible to make. Just look what they did to The Hobbit. Even the people making it knew it should have been one movie. The Hobbit is literally about half the length of The Fellowship of the Ring. Not all of LOTR. Just Fellowship.
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u/OkAdhesiveness330 Aug 12 '26
This is why there has not been a successful live action adaptation of resident evil smh
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u/xpercipio Aug 12 '26
Next month brother. We're taking the hopium for 1 more month.
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u/rygar8bit Aug 12 '26
The movie looks like they could have called it anything other than Resident Evil.
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u/SanchoPliskin Aug 12 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/czp5oNjpP8qJY9PP8f
Awww you made Mila sad…7
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u/TheAmazingSealo Aug 12 '26
We'll stop when she stops starring in her husband's terrible movies!
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u/bneff08 Aug 12 '26
I fuggin love Christopher judge. I literally just rewatched Stargate.
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u/Instagibbed_1994 Aug 12 '26
To be fair, the mocap actress wouldve been too old to play her younger self in TLOU season 1. But he brings up other great points
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u/Medical-Lingonberry3 Aug 12 '26
Hollywood actively does the opposite of what he saying they should do! Like the writers and producers of the Halo show bragged how they never read the books or played the games yet they were gobsmacked when the show flops! Hollywood wants to make money their own way even if it loses them millions
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u/billth93 Aug 12 '26
Especially strange with games known for their writing specifically
I get writing for a show is different from writing for a game, but if I were making a GoW show, I’d absolutely want to have GoW writers in the room consulting at a minimum
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u/The_Booty_Spreader Aug 12 '26
Fallout show was good tho, but I guess it's an exception lol
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u/skynex65 Aug 12 '26
Yes and no. Fallout ISN'T strictly an adaptation. It's in many ways Fallout 5. It's a story told within the world of Fallout from the perspectives of new characters who have relations to pre-existing lore.
Fallout works for that reason. It's telling a brand new story within an established universe rather than trying to retell a story that's already been told perfectly well, like Fallout 3's Lone Wanderer or New Vegas' Courier.
This is the route any sort of endeavour such as The God of War tv show, the Halo tv show, Doom, Pokemon, any of them should've taken if they had any spine but they don't want "new" they want what's safe told in a new way to justify the existence of what is essentially a soulless cash grab that routinely fails to capture its target audience.
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u/BirdSongSymphony Aug 12 '26
I think part of it is ultimately bc film adaptations are simply not trying to appeal to the video game audience. They are trying to appeal to a much larger movie audience who may or may not really care about the lore or whatever of the game.
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u/Silverjeyjey44 Aug 12 '26
I think this is such a dumb tactic. They might as well create a completely new IP because if they're appealing to people who aren't well versed with the games lore; it's the same thing.
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u/Angstycarroteater Aug 12 '26
He’s right. I watched maybe an hour of the last of us before shutting it off and going yeah this is hot garbage Hollywood ruined this for me. I got so much hate from all of the shows fans for saying it sucked and they ruined the game by making really bad decisions to make the show more exciting or whatever. Then season 2 came out and people realized it was as bad as I was making it out to be. You have to stay true to the original IP if not what’s the point of making it. You can still do spin off shit like you want to but not if it changes the story or the characters from what/who they were in the game
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u/pattyfritters Aug 12 '26
The voice actors look nothing like the characters they play most of the time.
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u/Impossible_Humor736 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
Yes. Yes. Yes!
And you'll have all kinds of people online defending the dog shit movies/shows going on about "adaptations". No one cares about your adaptation. They want to experience the thing they already know and love in a new medium.
You're not the creator and shouldn't take personal liberties on someone else's work but should instead do your best to present their work as accurately as possible.
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u/BrokenHope23 Aug 12 '26
Indeed.
Stargate jokes aside, writing/voicing/acting a TV show and writing/Voice Acting a video game are two very different things and long-time actor/VA Christopher Judge would know that. I could see him making these comments under the context of just giving these actors/writers their due consideration rather than kicking them out of the process entirely but it was skewed for a hot take. Granted, Judge is a very diverse actor and may also be underestimating the difficulties that most actors/writers may face in the transition too.
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u/GhostBelliniFace Aug 12 '26
Amazon killed it with Fallout so I have some hope lol
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u/pudgehooks2013 Aug 12 '26
Fallout is different though.
The Fallout show isn't about the Fallout games. It is a show set in the Fallout universe. The show isn't about the courier, or the wanderer, or any of the people you play in Fallout games.
If they made The Witcher about some random other Witcher, not Geralt, then it would be the same thing. I don't think that show would be nearly as popular, and that is the key difference.
Twisted Metal seems to be somewhat in the middle, but maybe that is because of the type of game it is based off.
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u/Aesthete18 Aug 12 '26
Because there's different skills between voice acting and normal acting? I wasn't a fan of Pedro being Joel but I don't think Troy can pull it off aside from the voice and what, a 40 year old is supposed to play Ellie? Is this actor supposed to play Kratos in live action? Come on man.
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u/Reasonable-Sherbet24 Aug 12 '26
Not only that, but they go out of their way not to play any of the games (the Halo people were directed not to even talk about the games) and intentionally change the story.
I don’t like video game adaptations that are a retelling of the game. Why do that when that story is already being told and if it’s not told right, you’ve already alienated 90% of the audience? It doesn’t make sense and is a slap in the face to the fans.
I like what Fallout did. They told an entirely original story, the writers knew of the games, Bethesda (Todd Howard) was at the helm, and some of the cast and crew were fans of the games.
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u/Infinite-Location221 Aug 12 '26
Sorry but were they supposed to cast Ashley Johnson to play Ellie in the show..? There's a bit of an age difference there...
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u/Livid_Command_7621 Aug 12 '26
This could very well go for any series out there, comic , movie, or game out there . Hiring idiots that have no business writing our beloved characters , and then they wonder why the shit flops so hard . It’s a shame Hollywood will never learn. They’ll just keep hiring the same morons over and over.
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u/Temporary-Rip-4502 Aug 12 '26
I feel like the easiest job on earth these days is to be a CEO or a shareholder in the entertainment and media sector. You just have to do the exact opposite of what makes sense and be as dumb as humanly possible and before you know it bam! $50 million annual bonus is yours!
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u/Deviantdefective Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
Best example modern warfare film, you already have ACTUAL good actors playing the characters in the game which already look and sounds perfect for the roles will they use them? Hell no as per fucking usual they're going to ruin it.
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u/RAYVELUPISUNQUENOUGH Aug 12 '26
Hollywood just took advantage from fan. That all i want to say.
They never care about it.
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u/Dull_Bid6002 Aug 12 '26
I think it's just Hollywood needs better writers in general. You could probably find a fan of these things to do a much better job.
The actors part only makes sense if it's animated most of the time. So many voice actors for games wouldn't fit the part, but they can sound the part. Unless it's just to be on set to help the show actors, it wouldn't make sense all the time to do.
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u/CG249 Aug 12 '26
He is, we saw how badly not hiring people involved with the property ended up being for Halo.
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u/Meeqs Aug 12 '26
For those who are curious it has to do with SAG and Alanah Pearce has a great video breaking it down
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u/EH4LIFE Aug 12 '26
The hubris of Hollywood writers is staggering. They do it with classic novels too. Like Maggie Gyllenhaal claiming The Bride! is what Mary Shelly would have written instead if she was around today.
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u/Foolishly_Sane Aug 12 '26
Absolutely.
Utilize the people with the experience, make better show/movie, make more money.
Everyone ends up happy.
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u/ttystikk Aug 12 '26
The man has an excellent point.
The original team WILL cost more, which is why corporate bean counters make these stupid decisions to begin with
But in doing so, they shred the value of the very property they're trying to build.
People respond to quality.
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u/Worldly_Resource_336 Aug 12 '26
Exactly...no, we MUST use the same tired actors from 8 other things. Its almost so weird it begs conspiracy.
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u/Worldly_Resource_336 Aug 12 '26
Also, that is part of the EXACT reason why they dont hire them.. They cant tell them anything. Inferiority complex. They must be the masters if the culture.
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u/karkonthemighty Aug 13 '26
For someone who fairly recently came into video game work, he nailed it on the head there.
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u/cruzifyre Aug 13 '26
I'm glad he used tlou as an example. The show acting is garbage minus Pedro, but even he can't couldn't capture Joel. And Bella's acting is awful. Can't see gow doing any better
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u/son_of_wotan Aug 13 '26
I totally agree. They buy an IP, because it is supposed to be popular. They then get writers and directors, who don't care about the topic, or are actively hostile towards it. They don't want to cater to the existing fanbase, 0 fanservice. Even if they bring on the original creator as an advisor, they ignore them most of the time.
The end product has nothing to do with the source material, just the name.
Then why bother with buying the damn IP et all?
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 Aug 13 '26
It just warms my heart that he can't stand Kaitlyn Dever as abby like the rest of us 😂
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u/Akd3rd Aug 13 '26
Does he want to play as Kratos in the live action? Yes
Does he have a point? Also Yes
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