It would suck for a traveling family, though. The parents would be fine seeing each other, nothing they haven't seen before, but with kids there would be some serious issues.
It's going to be ping pong, though. If Airbnb has another big scandal with someone having hidden cameras in the space, people will go back to hotels. If the hotels keep doing shit like this, they'll risk Airbnb. Rinse and repeat.
My thoughts exactly. My family always used our hot tub in the nude, bathrooms were only locked when going #2, etc. It normalizes and desexualizes the human body in a healthy way. I feel like the US's puritanical culture honestly causes more harm than good with this one.
The puritanical culture is still way to prevalent in some areas of the U.S. I've straight up met guys that started getting weirded out about other people being close to their siblings and holding hands with them/friends. I think their minds are so warped from being so deprived of human touch
My daughter is adopted and has severe ptsd from abuse at bio home. Her seeing us naked would be extremely triggering. Any hotel like this would be an immediate no.
It’s just a cultural difference. I haven’t seen my parents naked since I was so young that I had no qualms about barging into bathrooms where people are showering, and my parents weren’t even okay with that, they’d cover up as fast as possible and make me leave. That’s pretty standard in America. If you’re older than like 3 you don’t see your parents naked.
Yes. But also they do want certain demographics of customers to look elsewhere. It’s more difficult and expensive to cater to everyone at the same time - sometimes impossible.
For example, business travelers don’t want to hear kids running and yelling down the hallways. Families don’t want a bunch of intoxicated adults flirting with each other at the pool during happy hour.
Whatever it takes to increase room bookings without getting customers to start looking elsewhere.
People will only know to book multiple rooms at a specific hotel if they know it has this issue with the bathrooms. If they know it has this issue then why wouldn't they book another hotel?
yeaaahh my family booked 2 rooms when we travelled but I dont wanna see my brother naked in the shower or taking a shit any more than I wanna see my mom.
As someone who comes from a family where it was perfectly normal to briefly walk around naked when anything else would be a minor inconvenience (example: Dad every morning strolling from the shower to the collective wardrobe room butt-ass naked bc he couldn't be bothered to pre-pick his clothes), the concept of "t-shirt in the pool for everybody" is ... probably just as alien to me as my situation is to you.
Well that's the difference then. In our house modesty was about morality, not safety. If that makes sense? It doesn't matter if a person is "safe" or not because immodesty is inherently indecent. Religion, man, I tell you hwat...
Im not sure what you mean by what's the difference. We wear shirts at the pool but my kid constantly runs into the bathroom while I'm using it. Its safety reasons. We aren't religious at all
The difference is the at home private behaviour. A family that's strickt in modesty for religious reasons would also be strickt like that at home. So no seeing eachother in any state of undress at all. Whereas how you describe your family it sounds more like an external thing. That you aren't that strict about everyone needing to be covered when it's just your family who can see it.
I sometimes forget that this is so different culturally. I'd say that in most families I know, it's pretty normal to see your parents naked. Then again, we also go to the sauna with a bunch of naked strangers, so, all things considered, naked family members are pretty tame in comparison.
Though tbf, I would probably draw the line at seeing my colleagues naked if it can be avoided.
It is interesting how deeply ingrained cultural norms can be in our minds. Like I know logically there's nothing wrong with the nude human body and that seeing your family naked is perfectly normal in many cultures, but the thought of seeing my parents naked makes me so uncomfortable
My dad was routinely naked as a kid, and still even as an adult and him as a skinny old man. My mom was less naked around the house, but wasn't a big deal to see her in bra/underpants.
We'd also go to the Y often and that's always a sea of naked people. Used to sit in the sauna as a kid with old naked dudes, was perfectly normal (though lots of Scandinavians in my region, including our family to a large degree).
This is in the US too FYI, but the US is hardly a mono-culture.
It was definitely uncomfortable when I went to my mom's house (because she was in the middle of a meth-induced psychosis) and heard her talking in the bedroom, so I go back there to see her in tennis shoes, end of list.
completely a different topic of discussion but this is probably one of the best arguments for online privacy. since it isn't just a theoretical situation, in many situations, you must actively find a hotel that doesn't have these bathrooms.
When I was looking at places, I told the realtor that en-suite bathrooms were a dealbreaker for me. I have zero interest in hearing pissing/shitting three feet from where I’m sleeping. Put that bullshit down the hall where it belongs.
Sir, outside of hotels, en-suites are for ensuring you don't meet your kids on the way to do your post-coital ablutions; nobody wants them for shitting in the bedroom.
I agree, although I can live with a 'normal' en suite. The ones in my area, especially "luxury" homes, have no door. Just straight up, toilet-in-your-bedroom. So much hate for these.
A special dishonorable mention goes to bedrooms laid out where the closet is inside the bathroom, so that you can only access anything in your closet after walking through the bathroom. Because what I really needed was to cut off all access to my clothes because someone else is showering, or having someone tromp back and forth through the bathroom for laundry while I'm trying to poop.
I hate this even just as a married couple. Just because my husband and I have seen each other naked and showering doesn't mean I want him to watch me poop. We've never been that relaxed around each other lol.
When you've spent enough time together, you've been through all sorts of bodily nastiness together. The socially ingrained awkwardness gives way to necessities, then casual acceptance that we are all human beings going through the same bodily processes.
Nope. That’s not how this works. I’ve watched my wife give birth twice. Still wouldn’t let her watch me take a shit, or even be in the room next to the bathroom while I’m doing it.
I definitely don’t shit with my wife in the bathroom, but not letting her be in the room next to the bathroom is nuts. Do you have a master bath? Do you kick her out if you need to shit while she’s still in bed or do you go to another bathroom?
My wife and I literally don't give a shit. She's my ride or die. My #1. My partner through hell and back. What the fuck do I care if I see her shit? She doesn't care either. We poop. Oh no.
I think it depends on the people. My husband and I have known each other for over 20 years and had a kid together for 8 and we still avert our eyes when passing a toilet paper roll through the door when taking a #2.
Depends on age, maturity, and modesty preferences.
Small kids don't really care. Pre-pubescent kids might kind of care about modesty but ultimately wouldn't be a real problem. Teens and up and it all depends on how modest the most modest person is.
People forget there are people who are completely fine with nudity because it is not inherently sexual.
I stayed in a 4-star hotel with my wife. Open shower was fine. Open toilet with a direct view from the bed? Not so much. I had to go 36 floors down to poop in the all-hours gym
Edit: Based on responses, I presume this is a culture thing. I meant it as a genuine question, because it seemed weird to me. Especially to specifically call out kids.
Privacy? When I was a child I wouldn't have wanted to see my parents in the bathroom. I also wouldn't have wanted my parents to see me in the bathroom. With what little privacy a shared hotel room gives you, the toilet is necessary alone time to shit or have an emotional breakdown without your entire family knowing.
I can understand that if was not a more common occurrence. I guess my sisters and I sharing a bathroom, it was just the way it was. We were not bashful. Pretty much casual nudists anyway.
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u/Far_Potato9948 20d ago edited 20d ago
Forget where I saw it, but someone put forth a theory it's to discourage business travelers from sharing rooms