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u/ELLISDETRIP 7h ago
Circular finance. Learning from the Ai ceos
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u/kylo-ren 3h ago
It is almost as if the war were not between countries, but rather a class struggle.
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u/awesomedan24 6h ago
You know whats even stupider? The amount of diesel Trump bought from Russia is enough to last about 1-2 days...Ā
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u/Wild_Neighborhood605 6h ago
Putin will not supply even this. He most probably won't supply anything. He has a fuel shortage crisis in Russia and he has to feed the military too. At least 50 % of his refining capacity is down and will stay down for months to come.
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u/Justhe3guy 5h ago
Donāt worry, Trump will just pay in advance since he loves spending money thatās not from his own pocket. See every company heās run into the ground, the donations you can make to him and the presidential trips to his properties where he makes White House staff and secret service payā¦
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u/aylaa157 6h ago
Its the trash diesel that Russians started producing due to shortages. But its been damaging vehicles so they wanted to dump the rest on a stupid country dumb enough to buy it.
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u/Tupekkha 5h ago
Just like that Argentinian beef.
Whatās next importing asbestos from Russia to lower the cost of building materials? Fun fact: Russian still exports asbestos building materials
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u/A-Capybara 5h ago
It'd be hilarious if that diesel wrecks the trucks of all the magas
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u/1966TEX 4h ago
Even stupider is keeping tariffs on Canadian oil, NG, and diesel while trying to lower prices.
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u/Reasonable_Option493 7h ago
The art of the deal.
The only impressive thing with this con man is his ability and willingness to abuse a system that allows people who have the $ to sue others into oblivion.
The man couldn't even run a freaking casino. In most if not all other developed nations, he would have never made it to becoming a billionaire; he benefited from a system that truly rewards the privileged, no matter how bad they are at their business.
Regarding the war, you'd think that after failures like Vietnam, Iraq 2.0, and Afghanistan, some officials in positions of power would have at least learned something. I guess not enough to stop this ape from starting a mess with Iran. He refused to listen to those who might have warned him that this wouldn't be like Venezuela, where you drop 3 bombs and it's over in 2 hours. You don't need to be an expert to see that Iran would be a trap, but perhaps that's the plan all along because some people are definitely profiting from this shit show.
I don't understand how MAGA supporters cope with their terrible decision. The guy is trolling them non stop. He promised tariff refund checks, they're still waiting (or forgot). You know who didn't have to wait long for their $600 million check? A mega corporation like Amazon, that posts billions in net profit yearly, lmfao. What happened to "end the war in Ukraine as president elect", "cheaper groceries on day 1", or " Kamala will start wars, I will be the president of peace"?
This admin of imbeciles can't even be bothered to properly interview candidates for the position of press secretary, as if "I passed the bar exam in China" would fly. The irony of MAGAts calling Biden's picks DEI hires when you look at all the unqualified idiots in Trump's admin! I am so tired of this circus. And most democrats in office should be ashamed for their lack of spine and commitment, when you have 85 year old Bernie always at the front line, what the heck are most others doing?
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u/doc_daneeka 3h ago
The man couldn't even run a freaking casino.
To be fair, he wasn't trying to. He was using casinos to get rid of some of his personal debt, among other things. Trump personally made a bunch of money, and when they went bankrupt he made sure the losses were suffered by other people, not him.
From his perspective the casino scam was a complete success.
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u/The_ghostki 7h ago
There was also a report that Russian is buying the oil from Iran.Ā
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u/esjb11 7h ago edited 7h ago
This really isnt about economics. Its not like Russia makes that much more on selling it to USA than India anyway. Trump wants to make noice for the midterms. Pretend to care about diesel price etc, while Putin is superhappy watching all the Europeans running around screaming about the deal, asking for distanceing between Europe and the USA, driving a vedge between the two. The actual economic aspect in this is very limited, and it was never about it
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u/Andromeda_Revisit 5h ago
We all know that USA started "the war" by attacking Iran.
We also know that Russia by not selling oil to USA or Europe didn't take the prices to the levels which are today.
We also know that American oil companies (which are huge sponsors of Trump) are making huge profits from the USA attack on Iran and they have all the reasons to keep this going as much as they can.
Nothing is stupid, everything is going as they are planned by big oil and gun manufacturing CEO's.
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u/WizeAdz 3h ago
The oil companies promised a billion dollars to Trumpās campaign, but high oil prices mean long-term demand destruction in their business ā which is kinda really fucking stupid on their part.
Every freight company that goes out of business and parks their trucks because of high diesel prices is what demand destruction looks like.
Every person worldwide who gets fed up with high gasoline or diesel prices and buys a ore efficient vehicle, especially an EV, that will be on the road for the next 20 years is what long-term demand-destruction looks like.
Achieving regulatory capture of the United States government turns out to have been a really fucking stupid long-term play for these guys, because the administration they bought doesnāt have any guardrails.
Iād say āoopsā, except that the worst of the consequences will fall on innocent bystanders who had nothing to do with this.
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u/zanzara1968 2h ago
We also know Russia gave Iran targeting data from satellites to shoot and kill US servicemen in the Gulf and Giordania
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u/Frequent_Opportunist 10m ago
We are only keeping Iran busy so they can't level Tel Aviv while the radical Zionist regimen ethnically cleanses their neighboring countries to push for their goal of greater Israel.
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u/West-Way-All-The-Way 7h ago
In today's economics and supply chains you can't afford to rage war on any nation holding oil, rare earth minerals, lithium or semiconductor factories. This is the reality and no matter how much orange paint you use you can't change it.
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u/Anthraxious 6h ago
That's not stupid, it's the way the rich always have kept control. Go to war, kill the regular joes and even bomb ourselves just to keep it going. Sowing discord and hate is literally the rich people play since the dawn of time.
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u/Status-Secret-4292 6h ago
Price for Putins "help" in this election cycle has increased dramatically.
Inflation is effecting everyone
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u/Stormcrowdick1066 6h ago
Funding both sides of a war we started. Feels like the 80ās all over again.
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u/Life_Possibility_271 6h ago
Trump made the deal to fund the Russian disinformation operations before mid elections
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u/Anxious_Hall359 5h ago
now you finally understand how the rest of the world has always seen you usa
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u/Automatic-Unit-8307 5h ago
Itās called Circular war financing. Trump family getting rich from military contracts owned by DJT Jr and Trump family and friends.
Itās brilliant how he is able to pull this off. He is indeed, the GOAT
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u/saltiest_raccoon 5h ago
It's only stupid if you don't realize the point is to make the ruling class richer.
They have the money to buy up oil and sell it when the price spikes. They have shares of the companies making the bombs and drones.
Things like war are prohibitively expensive on paper and seem stupid-- But you have to consider whose money is being spent and who is profiting. We are footing the bill and they are getting rich.
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u/LETSGOTACO22 47m ago
Canāt make this shit up. Shows how dumb Trump really is . This the Republicans fault.
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u/juicelordsword 4h ago
Itās because Putin has dirt on Trump and is blackmailing him. I wonder what it could be?
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u/El_Titanium_Blanco 7h ago
I wonder what alliance would matter more to Russia. A decimated Iran or the US
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u/SomeKindofTreeWizard 6h ago
when we did this with Reagan a bunch of officials got charged and went down
until Billy Barr started working on their pardons. That Billy Barr.
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u/Utaneus 6h ago
Doesn't the US produce a surplus of like 2 million barrels of diesel above the domestic demand? All we would need to do is restrict diesel exports. Buying Russian fuel is such a fucking inexplicable move (outside of blatant corruption and a compromised president as the explanation).
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u/JamTrackAdventures 6h ago
Wouldn't it make more sense for the USA to buy oil from Iran and cut out the middle man? In fact to save time and money perhaps the USA could bomb its own Middle East military bases and they can sell themselves oil to pay for it. That cuts both Russia and Iran out of the equation and puts the USA in full control of all aspects of this situation.
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u/wallstbull 6h ago
Whatās the issue? This situation is totally Trumpish and fits the script which is our reality here in the āUnitedā States 100%.
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u/Overall-Abroad-4441 6h ago
This is how you keep the war going. If it ends prematurely, folks won't hit their financial goals.
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u/say-nothing-at-all 6h ago
war is business,. not justified by politics. it's safe to call them evil.
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u/ThisIsMyComment2 6h ago
Makes complete sense if you're the arms manufacturing industry and the last few years have seen rockets piling up at your warehouses.
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u/feelosiphize 5h ago
You know how many people argue that this isn't happening with our entitlement programs!?
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u/ReactionKooky5886 5h ago
They always the one in the middle makes the most money. Playing both sides. Crazy part is no one cares.
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u/isthereadrwho 5h ago
Diesel that we are buying from Russia is being shipped from Iran, our president is the best negotiator š
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u/Glass-Cut9665 5h ago
It's all planned, it gives energy companies more money and weakens America ability to protect ourselves
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u/dragonmeetcloud 5h ago
The humor is acting tough on the world stage wearing daipers that stick out of your butt and an orange face while everything else is pale white.
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u/CalligrapherIll5176 5h ago
Its war between classes. The higher ups make "deals" and the people pay for them.
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u/EternalFrost_73 5h ago
Oh, it's even dumber than that. Russia is importing diesel from Iran. We are now buying diesel FROM Iran through Russia to directly fund the war from both sides.
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u/leeretarmy 5h ago
California closed refineries so we had to get it somewhere. We produce enough crude to take care of all of our needs but we donāt have the capacity to refine it.
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u/CaptScourageous 5h ago
It's all double dealing with the wealthiest getting wealthier a d the rest of us get to die for it.
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u/RudeAd315 5h ago
Yet Biden was writing blank checks to Ukraine with US tax dollars who is bombing US diesel supply. Let all of Eastern Europe self destruct in their own without the US taxpayer footing the bill
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u/Fillyerboot 5h ago
The American people voted for this pedo rapist criminal fraud twice. Twice ffs. Ā Heās not the only problem.Ā
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u/Naive-Giraffe-8552 5h ago
The war is fake. The video says that a supposed Iranian missile hit a parked car in Tel Aviv, but closer examination of the video shows no missle. The car, in fact, flips up from the bottom. I found this guy on B*tchute named jkrane694medical, and he has a number of videos about how the war with Iran is fake. At first glance, he seems kind of paranoid and out there, but the footage is quite convincing. He slows down the video and shows people the exact split second that the explosion takes place.
I can't post links to his channel because of Reddit censorship, but I can post this YouTube video from NY post and you can see for yourself.
https://youtube.com/shorts/puIQJC6e4uI?si=4f-yllSg-EZvJW4s
DM me for the links
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u/jstamper 5h ago
Itās all just theater, people in Iran are living normal daily lives just like us.
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u/d4electro 5h ago
Remember he's doing this to curb the diesel prices which rose due to the war with Iran he started
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u/Omgbrainerror 5h ago
Iran exports Oil to russia, as they cant export it over sea, due the blockade. Just mentioning.
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u/Dejantober 5h ago
Russia and Iran are the big kids in this sandbox. Trump is fucking Ralph Wiggum.
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u/evilpercy 5h ago
Canada supplies 63% of all USA oil imports. Canada could increase production by 4% to offset the increase in prices in the USA, as Canada has done in the past to help or friend.
But Trump is in a economic war with Canada.
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u/CreamXpert 5h ago
Must feel weird being a US soldier in the Middle East and your president support countries helping Iran.
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u/Bleezy79 5h ago
It makes a lot more sense when you accept Trump is a foreign asset and his loyalty is to Putin. Everything Trump has done is for the benefit of himself and/or Russia. That's it. This is why it seems like everything Trump does hurts Americans, because that is exactly the intent.
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u/G33kSlayer 5h ago
And Israel gets to profit with no losses and give their populace free state sponsored healthcare
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u/nastimoto 5h ago
Itās not about political logic. Itās about whoās getting richer in the process. Follow the money and all makes perfect sense.
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u/Taylor285 4h ago
Not as stupid to let Russia invade Ukraine and give Iran pallets of cash to build their nukes ā¦. š¤·āāļøš¤·āāļø
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u/Woe-Is-Man 4h ago
Just as planned no?
Then the war can be prolonged and feed the military industry.
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u/EpicBeardMan 4h ago
We've been funding a war on ourselves since another republican shit heel started the war on drugs.
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u/Routine_Mortgage_499 4h ago
Truckloads of oil are streaming into Russia from Iran right now.
Absolute insanity
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u/Icy-Desk-561 4h ago
It isnāt stupid at all when you realize who trump is actually working for. Hint: it is not the US.
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u/Sierra123x3 4h ago
at least he's getting the ressources from ukrain and a nice 15 second dance insertion on tv (with him in the lead role) ... though, there probably won't be much ukraine left after putins mob went through ...
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u/ToneFree9335 4h ago
It's the forever war and it's nothing new. This is how the military industrial complex works. Politicians have insider knowledge and control wars and defense contracts. Start war, buy stocks, give tax money to defense contractors whose stock you bought, sell stock , make money
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u/Pypsy143 4h ago
āWe have all the money we need out of Russia.ā - Eric Trump, 2013.
The felon is owned by Putin and must do his bidding because, as usual, the bankruptcy-in-chief canāt pay his debts.
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u/Tripleforty1 4h ago
No war no money. The organizing principle of any society is for war. The authority of the state resides in its war powers.
- Mr. X
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u/dragonlayer42069 4h ago
putin probably laughing his ass off at how dumb trump is lol
or i guess trump could just be an agent working for trump and he's laughing at the american people instead
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u/NoRide9443 4h ago
US funds war in Ukraine US pays for diesel from RussiaĀ Ukraine blows up Diesel plant in RussiaĀ US šÆ
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u/Noktis_Lucis_Caelum 4h ago
Trump is just an Idiot who should be finally impeached and send to prison
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u/Enough-Bunch505 4h ago
And isreal, dont forget them. The US buying oil from Russia, when they cant refine their own oil anymore thanks to ukraine, means the US is buying iranian oil and so the US is funding iran's campaign against isreal.
Republicans need to hear this. Supporting Isreal is an identity for them and trump isnt just putting the national security of the US in jeopardy by buying this oil but isreal as well.
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u/deebly25t 4h ago
Add to that the fact that Russia canāt even make enough for their own market and are importing it from Iran, itās possible that the fuel Trump is buying is from Iran!
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u/Any-Thanks-7075 4h ago
To all of idiots: economicaly fighting Russia and Iran in a same time is impossible, because of oil. So, Trump had to deal with someone.
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u/buritosdeluxe 4h ago
They are all in cahoots. That was the point. Oppression sold in many forms while the dictators shake hands and wash away our entire tax base.
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u/Good_Tomato7381 4h ago
A genius. I'm telling you it's 5 maybe 6 dimensional foreign policy. Everyone so confused they won't know who they were fighting.
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u/FeelingFarm9867 4h ago
That's how fukd up the republican party are listening to an old git who starts shit to gain is and his family get richer and ends up spend billions of Americans money in fukd up war with Iran at least bush demolished his foes with pinache!and grace and had the will of people and listen to his generals ,all trump is doing is setting up another world war when that old bastard will be dead more than likely and Europe is again looking like Gaza !!!!
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u/eepos96 4h ago
Well to be frank
China funds taiwan, and vice versa
Europe buys from russia oil
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u/steelhead1971 4h ago
It makes perfect sense when you realize the Trump regime doesn't care about its soldiers. Trump people get what they want in this scenario, and Americans lose again.
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u/Creative-Routine4874 4h ago
I never thought that the decline of America will go that fastā¦! š„“š¤·š¼āāļø
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u/Guntuckytactical 4h ago
I would say "USA buys diesel from Russia" and "Russia buys diesel from Iran" to make it more (unfortunately) accurate and hilarious.
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u/Freak_Engineer 4h ago
Hey, don't look at us. Literally all of us told you that electing that russian asset painted orange as the president is a phenomenally stupid Idea. But nooooo, you didn't listen.
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u/TheShocker1119 4h ago
Not self promoting. Just didn't think I'd be able to use this little edit from 3 years ago
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u/Pure_Road7528 3h ago
Remember this is the shit they circulate to divide us and the bigger atrocities are gaining while we are distracted by arguing over this. Having said this, fuck trump!
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u/Goresplattered 3h ago
Im starting to think that perhaps war may be profitable.Ā We should look into that. If it turns out to be true we should look into who is on the receiving end of said profit.
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u/FeelingFarm9867 3h ago
Trump didn't and doesn't give a shite about anyone else but himself getting richer when Americans suffer Europe suffers and definitely Ukraine suffers cus an old twat like trump is ruining a great country called America ,where are the real people who can vote to get rid of this brain dead murderer who finances death by backing the regimes America vowed to help and defend,these 3 twats in the picture should be tried like the Nazis did aswell as netenyau,Israel got it bad in ww2 now they are as bad
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u/cedarhack 3h ago
Kind of like Pedojoe releasing the strategic oil reserves and letting China buy it up to bring down gas prices
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u/sp114_5984 3h ago
For today's fact that will get you banned from reddit -
Since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022 Europe has given Russia 340 billion dollars for oil and gas.
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u/Brief-Ad-7622 3h ago
You are the stupid one. Europe and national are with Ukraine against Russia but they buy their energy from Russia. We are helping our country.
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u/sheslikeaferriswheel 3h ago
war is just money laundering for governments anyway. they don't care about the destruction or deaths as long as they're profiting, and they are
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u/CulturalHawk7594 3h ago
Where? Where has he stabbed them in the back?? We give billions and billions of dollars to all of you cowards. Every year. You need to pay better attention and stop watching the biased news on CNN. And 1- we don't need them. But it's their waters and their obligation to their neighbors to respond. I don't understand why they are all afraid of Iran. We wouldn't have to police the area if they got together and did it themselves
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u/ExpensiveTie5553 2h ago
none of em gaf about their people, they're just helping each other with population control so their elites can steal more from the countries
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u/saoxi 2h ago
Usa is obliterating Iran. Russia pours precious resources it cant afford into Iran. US buys cheap oil from Russia because they need cash fast. Russia turns around and uses cash to support Iran, which usa immediately turns to rubble while training its troops on how to shoot fish in a barell. Usa wins, Ukraine wins. Russia is bankrupt. Iran is dead. Seems like a win win rofl
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u/Witty-Structure-2801 2h ago
Like I said, like I said like I said like I said like I said like I said like I said like I said like I told you, mom and dad please donāt vote for this please please please please. We are so fucked.
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u/violet_sin 2h ago
Psst... Help me ease back this problem, that I've created, so it doesn't look bad for my third run at the presidency...
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u/MasterBiscuit19 2h ago
Russia has said pretty recently they would be open to using a nuclear weaponā¦. I donāt remember ever seeing Iran saying they would use oneā¦
yet, we canāt allow Iran to get one and weāre helping Russia defeat Ukraine and who knows what else beyond that?
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u/Winstonsphobia 2h ago
Even simpler: Trump is not at war with Iran. Heās at war with America, and Iran was meant to be a tool in that war.
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u/E_seven_20 2h ago
With less than 60% registered of 18-29:
2022 National Youth Turnout: 23% - That's lower than in the historic 2018 cycle (28%) which broke records for turnout, but much higher than in 2014, when only 13% of youth voted.
Elections have consequences.
No one figured that out from 2016-2020?
The stupid is also the American people that couldnāt be troubled to fill in a bubble.
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u/k6tcher 8h ago
Even to continue this logic: Trump blames Ukraine for attacking Russia's energy infrastructure and "raising" diesel prices. Russia supports Iran, and by doing so, supports the stranglation of the Strait of Hormuz which raises global diesel prices. Trump caused the crisis in Iran. Trump blames Ukraine. Putin wins.