There's actually Supreme Court caselaw saying that USPS drivers cannot be charged with anything while working. Sovereign immunity baby. That cop ain't getting nothing.
I donāt think thatās true. Our rural delivery mailman got busted for cooking up meth in two liter Pepsi bottles in his mail truck. Lost his govāt pension and job.
Govt aināt claiming ownership on the meth but maybe on two liter pepsi bottles and definitely the mail truck (even tho itās āhisā, it aināt really his) that probably got him into the position he was put intoā¦. Iām not a lawyer tho
yeah but what caused that, the cops or the post office's inspectors? because those guys are in charge and are the scary motherfuckers that dudes like the CIA pretend to be
I mean one google search will tell you that postal workers can and do get traffic tickets lol. The only thing USPS mentions is that they will not pay for the ticket, the worker has to.
The poster has it very, very wrong. There's no Supreme Court case that says postal workers can't be charged with crimes, and mail carriers can be ticketed, cited, arrested, etc. just like anyone else.
What they're trying to talk about are two different things. The first is federal officer immunity. The rule is: a federal officer can't be held criminally liable under state law for acts that were necessary and proper to carrying out their federal duties.
The phrase "necessary and proper" is the important part. A postal worker doesn't need to break traffic laws to deliver the mail, and they aren't authorized to break traffic laws in order to deliver the mail. So it's not necessary, and it's not proper.
The second thing is sovereign immunity. That's a rule that says you can't sue the government as an entity. There are exceptions to the rule, but the principle itself has nothing to do with individual employees.
Sovereign immunity is basically saying you canāt sue the government for the actions made by govt employees if Iām paraphrasing very loosely or simply wrong. Someone chime in pls.
You are just so far away from being correct, it makes my head spin. šµāš«
Yes, mail drivers (like U.S. Postal Service carriers) can be arrested and criminally charged while on duty for committing crimes or severe traffic violations. While they are federal employees with limited immunities for routine parking or minor traffic infractions, they are fully subject to both state and federal laws. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Mail carriers can be charged and arrested for several specific offenses, including:
Mail Theft & Fraud: Stealing mail, intercepting checks, or using stolen credit cards found on their route is a serious federal crime. These cases are investigated by federal agents and can result in federal prison time. [1, 2, 3]
Driving Under the Influence (DUI): Operating a government or personal vehicle while intoxicated on the job is a severe violation that will result in arrest and immediate termination. [1]
Assault & Violence: Physically assaulting a customer or a member of the public on their route violates state and federal law. [1, 2, 3]
Severe Traffic Violations: While local police often issue written citations rather than making immediate arrests to prevent mail delays, mail drivers can absolutely be ticketed or arrested for reckless driving or vehicular manslaughter
Please, google before posting again. I mean come on, mail theft & fraud? Did you think that mail drivers could commit that & it was okay? Or reckless driving? š¤¦āāļø
No, a local Long Island mail carrier was taken off his route and moved away from customers after repeated attempted attacks on people, kicking pets, kicking peoples doors and then he drove fast at people standing in the street with their dogs, they had to jump out of the way. Ā He didnāt get fired.Ā
Personal anecdote as a carrier: a 4 year carrier was pulled over and had warrants while delivering. Supervisor came and collected the mail and then carrier was cuffed and jailed overnight. Worked the next day and never lost his job.
My cousin had a mentally ill mailman who was physically attacking pets, flea, kicking things on peoples property, their doors and then tried to run over a group of people. Ā He didnāt get fired, he was moved indoors because she saw him at a different town post office.Ā
I mean from a quick google search that is not true. They have immunity for not delivering mail and thatās it from my interpretation. There is even a body camera channel that has a usps driver being arrested for dui while on the job.
That's literally the opposite of "in the performance of their duties" and also one of the exact situations the whole anti mail tampering law was implemented
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u/eponymous-octopus Jun 09 '26
There's actually Supreme Court caselaw saying that USPS drivers cannot be charged with anything while working. Sovereign immunity baby. That cop ain't getting nothing.