so the "protectors of Hinduism" are out here doing exactly what they accuse others of. radicalizing a festival that was never rigid to begin with

ngl the whole garba gatekeeping arc is wild. aadhaar checks, tilak at entry, muslim bouncers fired in hyderabad, muslim women with valid tickets turned away in kota, a hindu girl questioned in jamshedpur for showing up with her muslim friend even after her parents said it's fine. and the reason? "religious sanctity." ok let me actually engage with that since apparently nobody else is.

first, the "it's an act of devotion to Durga so non-believers shouldn't be there" argument. bro. gods are not exclusive clubs. you don't need a membership card to show up. sikh langar serves everyone, you don't get asked if you're amritdhari. people eat iftar food during ramadan without converting. nobody checks your aadhaar before letting you eat biryani at a muslim friend's wedding. festivals are not just about the deity, they're about people coming together. and if belief was really the bar, then let's talk about the lakhs of hindus who don't actually believe in Durga. atheists exist. agnostics exist. people go for the dancing and the food and the vibes. so why is the purity test only applied to non-hindus? pick a lane.

second, the "commercialization is ruining tradition" argument. lmao. temples were commercialized way before garba was. VIP darshan, paid aarti slots, ₹500 for a closer look at the idol. where's the outrage about that? commercialization actually made these festivals accessible and fun. festivals shouldn't feel like a school assembly. the spice is the point. obviously there should be limits, nobody wants a full nightclub with a Durga cutout, but using "anti-commercialization" as a cover to filter out muslims is not it. you're not protecting tradition, you're doing bigotry with extra steps.

third, security and identity checks. no take here, honestly. check IDs, do bag checks, keep people safe. that's fine. but notice how the security argument suddenly becomes a religion filter. checking everyone is security. checking only non-hindus is discrimination with a lanyard.

fourth, the "they only come to harass women" argument. this one is genuinely lazy. there are creeps in every crowd. there are hindu men who harass women at garba, there are men of every community who do terrible things. you deal with individuals. you don't blanket ban a whole religion because of the worst people in it. that's like banning all men from the metro because some men are creeps. you'd call that insane and you'd be right.

and the people defending this are the same ones who lose their minds when someone says hinduism is regressive. because hinduism has never been rigid like that. it's famously one of the most flexible, pluralistic, "believe what you want, do what you want" religions out there. you can be a theist, an atheist, a nastika, an agnostic, and still be hindu. that's the actual tradition. the second you start putting up gates and tilak checkpoints and asking people to prove their faith, you're not protecting hinduism. you're inventing a version of it that looks suspiciously like the thing you claim to be defending it from.

so yeah. the protectors are protecting hinduism by making it exactly what they say other religions are. rigid, exclusionary, insecure. congratulations.

the irony is doing push ups in the corner.

for anyone who disagrees, can call me out in comments....i have tried to reply to each point i have heard of...

Plz be critical....✌️✌️✌️

I feel that the members of the ruling party don't realize the consequences of their actions, and they're only asking for trouble by not engaging in dialogue with the citizens. I mean, detaining people from trains and flights is crazy already but detaining journalists, and normal citizens who weren't even there for the protests? Taking literal minors to unknown locations after detaining them, targeting student activists and maligning their image in the mainstream media, giving the police a free hand to beat up protesters, sending RSS goons to create havoc and asking the police to not touch them....

And now they're detaining people waving the tiranga! Seriously, if I was a supporter of the BJP then I'd surely be quite disappointed tbh. I keep seeing videos of violent protests in France on Indian RW subs, as if they're trying to justify illegal detention of Dipke and co, yet the protests here have only been peaceful, and we've only seen violence from the state in both the protests against Pradhan and the ECI.

Again, being critical of the government does not mean you're a fan of the opposition party, but that option seems more and more attractive with each passing day. It's not about BJP vs INC, I just want both sides to actually talk to each other because this is not a good look for India on the global stage.

BJP Candidates: I don't think Narendra Modi is going to give up his seat, but Yogi seems to be next in line. Didn't hear of any other names.

Congress: Rahul Gandhi is said to be the prince in waiting; many people don't see him as a PM candidate and say Shashi Tharoor is a better alternative.

AAP: Kejriwal started the party and gave it national status within 10 years. He served as the CM of Delhi until he was jailed in the fake liquor scam.

I strongly believe the BJP is full of criminals and rapists, and they even celebrate them; simply disgusting.

Congress is also full of educated and literate criminals. That is why people put them out of power in the 2014 elections.

AAP speaks and acts in the public's favour. Although Kejriwal is called authoritarian by many, it is the only party with no hardened criminals in it.

What are your thoughts and proposal for the next PM?
I request anyone making solid claims to do research and provide sources for it.
Opinions are welcome as long as they can be factually verified.
Please be civil.

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How NOTA works in India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_above_(India)#Election_Commission_of_India_(ECI)_and_NOTA#ElectionCommission_of_India(ECI)_and_NOTA)

I want to raise a serious question about electoral integrity and the verification process used by the Election Commission of India (ECI). Everyone is talking about voters being deleted from electoral rolls, but hardly anyone seems to be asking the other important question: Have ineligible foreign nationals been added to our electoral rolls?

We all know that illegal immigration is a documented issue in India, although the exact number of people residing illegally remains disputed. Historical estimates have put the number of Bangladeshi migrants at around 2 crore, while estimates for Rohingya have been around 40,000. These are estimates, not verified current population counts.

My concern is not simply about illegal immigration. It is about what happens when someone obtains Indian identity documents fraudulently.

There have been several reported cases of alleged document fraud:

- Bengaluru, April 2024: "India Today" (https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/4-bangladeshi-immigrants-illegally-obtain-indian-ids-in-bengaluru-arrested-2529511-2024-04-20) reported the arrest of four Bangladeshi immigrants accused of fraudulently obtaining Indian identity documents, including Aadhaar and ration cards.

- Delhi, December 2024: "Hindustan Times" (https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/12-arrested-as-cops-bust-gang-involved-in-illegal-immigration-from-bdesh-101735064831849-amp.html) reported arrests in an alleged racket involving forged Aadhaar and voter ID cards.

- Hyderabad, May 2025: "Times of India" (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/4-rohingya-refugees-held-for-obtaining-aadhaar-fraudulently/articleshow/121299376.cms) reported the arrest of four Rohingya over the alleged fraudulent acquisition of Aadhaar cards.

- Tamil Nadu, February 2024: "The New Indian Express" (https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2024/Feb/01/three-bangladesh-nationals-booked-in-tamil-nadu-trafficking-cases) reported on an investigation involving Bangladeshi nationals and alleged immigration-related offences.

These reports demonstrate that fraudulent acquisition of Indian identity documents is a genuine concern.

Here is the question I want the ECI to answer.

Form 6 is used to apply for inclusion in the electoral roll. Aadhaar can be accepted for specified purposes, but it is not proof of Indian citizenship.

Consider this hypothetical scenario:

a Bangladeshi national enters India illegally, obtains forged Aadhaar and ration cards through a document-forgery network, applies for voter registration using Form 6, falsely declares Indian citizenship and subsequently votes.

Given the reported cases of document fraud, it is a legitimate question to ask whether illegal foreign nationals have entered electoral rolls and whether any have voted in previous state elections

I also believe the controversy surrounding Aadhaar and Form 6 deserves closer scrutiny. I think that is why ECI was sceptical in adding Aadhaar in first place, ECI added it only after the supreme court decision.

Now comes the political question.

Why are the Congress, left-wing groups and CJP raising concerns about voter deletions and discrepancies in electoral rolls, while there is concern of illegal Bangladeshi and rohingya being added receives no attention?

No hiding around the bush, the answer is simple - Muslims. Muslims are these core audience for these political groups.

Here is reasoning:

The extended cutoff date for the CAA is 31 December 2024, so people from Hindu, Sikh, Parsi, Buddhist, Jain and Christian communities in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan may have applied for citizenship, and many may have obtained Indian citizenship and become eligible to vote. However, illegal Bangladeshi Muslim migrants and Rohingya remain foreign nationals. Through fraud, some may already have participated in our electoral process, but these parties won't highlight this for obvious reasons.

My question to nationalists and everyone concerned about electoral integrity is simple:

Why are we not demanding that the ECI investigate both sides of the problem -eligible voters being wrongly removed and ineligible people potentially being added along with discrepancies in ECI processes.

If electoral rolls are to be trusted, both questions deserve answers backed by transparent data, official investigations and evidence.

Every democracy stands on "free & fair elections". Electoral integrity is the prime most thing for a healthy democracy. If people will start to lose "faith" in the electoral process, and won't respect the mandate, then indian parliamentary democracy can't survive.

It is good to see that our overseas Indians are aware about this fact and standing with Indian youth, who are opposing this tyranny govt. In my opinion, every overseas indian should be concerned about this election commission fuss. Coz it hurts everyone equally. Most of them have their families, house, business and even votes in india. They all are part of this nation. And again it's really good to see them protesting. UK STANDS WITH INDIA✊🏻

Jab jab modi darta h, police ko aage karta h.

Modi teri tanasahi nhi chalegi nhi chalegi.

Amit Shah teri tanasahi nhi chalegi, nhi chalegi.

Gyanesh Kumar istifa do istifa do✊🏻🔥

Genuine question. I am largely apolitical, but maybe right leaning. I see this 13 crore number being thrown across in multiple platforms, including in interviews given by actor Prakash Raj. He knows nothing, i am sure people on both sides will agree. No one is claiming 13 crore illegal immigrants. But the 13 crore people includes people who are dead, duplicate names, erroneous entries, illegal immigrants. It also includes people who have moved. Lets say a voter moves from Rajasthan to kerala. They get 'deleted' from Rajasthan roll and added in kerala roll. That person did not lose their vote, but gets added as a deletion. The last SIR happened 20 years ago and with a country of our population, the revisions would obviously net big numbers. Do the protestors realize all this? Surely many of you will agree that the numbers you are throwing around is heavily overinflated.

So, this Indian Express Editor is asking why CJP showed only minor issues with Punjab Schools?

ok, Let's say for a sake argument that there are schools with bigger issues or problems in Punjab and CJP intentionally didn't showed them. Then What is stopping Indian Express to show those schools? So, One of the biggest media companies in India can't verify the state of schools in Punjab?

Moreover, He says AAP's own MLA came out about the state of schools but then he was dismissed.

In reality, the AAP MLA was dismissed for poor performance and then while leaving he started to defame the party. Even in that claim he said there are not adequate teachers i.e. 2-3 teachers are less than required strength. Which is not really as same as missing school building, running school in cattle shed etc. But this Editor said that schools in Punjab are also not good based on single unverified claim. Moreover, This claim can also be really easy to verify for one of the biggest newspapers in India. Especially, when they have hundreds of Journalists in Punjab!

Refuting the lawmaker’s claims that the local School of Eminence operated with critical staff shortages, the party released official school records dated September 29. According to the data, the school features 30 sanctioned teaching posts, of which 25 are currently filled, serving 580 students across 19 sections. The active staff includes a principal, seven lecturers, 15 master cadre teachers, and two computer science teachers. A party spokesperson added that the principal had already submitted a written request to fill the remaining five vacant posts.

Source: AAP’s Maur MLA questions Mann govt’s edu reform claims, suspended

Then he again asking why CJP is not talking about drug issue in Punjab? But again question is "who is stopping Indian Express to investigate drug issue in Punjab?" I have never seen any report or investigation by Indian Express on Drug issue in India or Punjab? Yeah, It's pan India issue drugs are not just limited to one state! Also, how come drugs keep entering in India from India-Pak border even after 7 years of Amit Shah as home minister? Why he is not able to control flow of drugs from Gujrat ports? Should we send CJP to defend Indian borders too?

So, their "journalism of courage" is only limited asking youth these hard questions? So, CJP needs to do everything - they have to be opposition, they have to be media, they have to be investigative journalists, they have to politicians, they have to judges!

Maybe these "Editors of Courage" should resign and let CJP run Indian Express and rest of the country!

Imran Khan openly supported the students and more importantly indian democracy. Now he is paying the price for his honesty. His upcoming comeback movie is facing a possible delay too.

On the other hand, in america, actors openly support the presidential candidate or openly criticise the govt. Taylor Swift openly supported kamala haris during the last election. While, india being a "mother of democracy" can't tolerate any opposition from an actor.

Only dictat0rs can do this. Yes, he isn't a citizen of india, but still he lives in india, he has worked here for his life, he is part of our society. He didn't do anything wrong except supporting students.

But this govt doesn't do anything against the bhakt overseas Indians, who spread propaganda all day. The people who support dictat0rs get impunity, while those who raise their voice get punished.

Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aomA7-z6fsw

LONDON — Massive protests erupted at Parliament Square today as thousands gathered for a demonstration led by Indian YouTuber Dhruv Rathee. The crowd rallied against alleged voter list irregularities in India, chanting highly charged slogans, including the viral chant targeting Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

The event laid bare deep divisions within the Indian diaspora. While Rathee’s supporters demanded electoral transparency following recent political friction in Delhi, a counter-protest simultaneously gathered outside the Indian High Commission to express solidarity with the Indian government. The overseas demonstration has sparked intense online debate, with critics arguing that staging domestic political disputes abroad fuels regional polarization.

These goons never show up when it comes to demanding justice for Hindu Girls like Ankita Bhandari. And why are the police standing and not doing anything while propels liberties are being violated?

Translation: The girl requests them to not film her. The man with the camera says he will not film her but film the boy and the man on call. The man talking on the phone finds out the mother knows. He lectures her mother to not come to him if her daughter falls victim to Love Jihad.

The call is interrupted by another call. He says on the 2nd call that he has caught many non-Hindus. He tells the caller to stop the event. The girl is apologizing to the boy.

He continues the call. It is revealed that the boy is like her brother. The girl is insisting on not taking the boy to the police. The man then says that it is goddess's festival and they should not have sent a Muslim boy.

The man then calls the tent guy.

https://x.com/RajatJain/status/2111190742630871345

CJP failed even after boost they got after NEET ans seemed unstoppable for a moment to their supporters while other side knew how this is going to end eventually but nobody imagined it will happen this fast.

Wrong timing and wrong battles they picked.

Never hurt small to medium businesses in festival times and also common people will hate you for trying to wrap them into your polotical battles at such festive times.

From NEET to EVM and toeing opposition line has left them wirh 100-500 protestors in Banglore and below 100 in Mumbai specially it is home state of CJP founder.

This was a big loss of face for CJP overall.

Recent expulsion of Imran Khan, while may be lawfully right, but creates a very othering of former Indian citizens. We don't have an option of dual citizenship, but we shouldn't be at such odds with them.

Should Indian govt change its attitudes towards OCIs? As per law, they are not full citizens, but straightaway expulsion is a very harsh measure. There should be some form of security for OCI's, a partial citizenship charter. This would help in maintain connection with diaspora and engage with them at a stronger level, making them feel that they have a stake in the nation. As Indian diaspora expands, the second and future generations with better connection can act as an asset.

Why is Trump buying crude from Russia, when he has sanctioned every country in the world, including India, against buying crude from Russia?

The answer lies in falling approval rating, high fuel prices in the US and high inflation that threatens his hold on the Congress and Senate as mid-term looms.

For his personal survival, he is willing to do the unthinkable.

When he can buy crude from Russia, a clear violation of his own mandate of sanctions against any country buying crude from Russia, why is India not calling out this and why is India not telling Trump to fuck off, India will buy crude from who ever it thinks fit and which serves India's interests?

I am surprised that the main stream media has maintained silence over this.

Does the accusation, that Modi is a compromised Prime Minister, as alleged by Rahul Gandhi not ring true now?

What is it that is preventing India from standing up for itself?

Saw this video in another sub

https://www.reddit.com/r/20sIndiaReal/comments/1x6khil/regime_change_is_the_way_we_will_see_it_soon/

Prashant Bhushan there says regime change is what we want and the way to go forward. Another protestor (Neha) is seen to be getting inspiration from Bangladesh GenZ protests and their 'fight' against 'religious fundamentalism'. Bangladesh fell into the hands of more religious fundamentalists. And the protests in Bangladesh was started against reservation. Something i think the people of CJP tend to favor.

So was it always about regime change? Because if it was for streamlining of the electoral process, something i agree with, then you all should be totally fine with BJP ruling for another 1000 years as long as the people ask for it. And now, Dhruv Rathee is doing aura maxxing in london. As someone watching from a far, how are we not to conclude that the intentions are not to streamline the process but to force a regime change because you are unable to win? And news flash 'torch bearers of democracy' : forced regime change is literally against what democracy stands for.

And why tf is it always humanities from JNU? Do you guys literally have nothing else to do? i mean, as a side note, i really want to hear from some JNU folks. is everyone like this?

Source: https://x.com/rshivshankar/status/2110909902902428003?s=46

Rozy is a freelance journalist.

She came into the spotlight when she alleged that a Delhi Police officer, Vivek Bhagat,

molested and sexually harassed her during a protest.

In a newly released video, she claimed that Vivek is attempting to ruin her life.

She stated that she never made any

derogatory remarks against Vivek and that the case filed against her is false.

13 people are in Tihar because of this. It's utter sham.

Dalli Police needs to fire a lot of people, this is making no trust in anyone

Journalists Rosy and Gajendra Singh on Police Violence, Sexual Assault and the Crackdown on Journalists - https://www.thequint.com/news/politics/journalist-rosy-sexual-harassment-fir-vivek-bhagat-acp-delhi-police-desipatrakaar-gajendra-singh-tihar-jail

Recently Baramati MP Supriya Sule spoke about undeclared emergency which was vociferously retorted by Rajdeep Sardesai.

Interesting aspect is, she seems to have forgotten what her party's govt did in Maharashtra, which was in power at the time of covid. For those who are unaware, undivded NCP was a part of MVA, which included undivided Shiv Sena and INC and it's govt was headed by Uddhav Thackeray. Additionally her party also handled the home ministry portfolio.

But when Baramati MP speaks in this manner, she should also answer what her govt did when a Marathi actress named Ketaki Chitale, shared a post which mocked Baramati MP's father and NCP supremo. The actress for sharing the post was jailed for a month.

Similarly there exists a political analyst named Bhau Torsekar, he used to appear for a Marathi YouTube channel named The Postman. In one of the videos for the channel, a YouTube user in that comment mocked NCP supremo.

Eventually a case was filed against the political analyst citing that it threatened the life of NCP Supremo.

An ex military personnel was also attacked when he shared a cartoon which poked fun at Uddhav Thackeray.

In the context of these cases, did her govt declare an undeclared emergency.

When former UK PM Boris Johnson came to India, he went straight to Gautam Adani. Now, American Foreign Affairs Minister Marco Rubio has made a dash to Mukesh Ambani’s house and asked his Indian counterpart to come to Mumbai. Let that sink in. What does this tell you about the current government?
The clown is compromised and reduced to sitting in the PM’s chair while his ministers are busy spreading hatred, fuelling riots and punishing Indian citizens. And we’re getting upset because Elon Musk said, “Dear Prime Minister Ambani, please accept my humble apologies for not realizing that you are the real boss of India.”
When foreign leaders land in India and their first GPS pin is Adani or Ambani, it starts looking less like diplomacy and more like a private concierge service for billionaires. The PMO is supposed to run the country, not make the world wonder who actually owns the remote control.
And now we’re offended by Elon Musk’s sarcasm? Maybe the real question isn’t why he made that joke, but why it struck such a nerve in the first place.

I know and completely acknowledge that what he did was wrong and illegal but he didnt deserve to die , bit a 5 years of imprisonment or something.

Do I mean that Vijay and her daughter deserved to go to jail for it , no by my heart . But technically yes they can for excessive force and no its not self defence. Self defence is justified when a physical danger is present which in my memory was absent and there was blackmail , and yes for this point I may be worng , I might not remember the exact nuances and I am open to discuss but this is not the crux of post.

You will ask why this post is been posted here its not a bollywood sub or something. I know that but the way ppl on insta they comment that this guy deserves death is shallow and dangerous thinking in our democracy.

This culture of ppl wanting death in cases of harassment or sexual abuse at all times makes me feel we live in a mob mentality.

And yes heres the thing death , giving someone capital punishment inshort wanting to end's someones life is way way bigger and serious thing which you cant throw.

Capital punishment is given is extreme heinous rape cases and other extreme acts there is a reason why.

That doesnt mean that a case of harassment or molestation is not serious it is but to qualify for a death penalty the way it has to be done must be heinous or bad.

Edit for Drishyam : But it isnt sure that he (Sam) will physically force yem if they refused the struggle was for mother stealing his phone

If he had started getting physical it was a justified self defence and I am not against killing someone in self defence in case of physical rape if you could understand.

If they refused I think he would have viralled the video for which he should hv been jailed maybe not for 5 but for 10 for 25 years too bcz the girl was underaged

Edit 2: And no , no act of rape is good , but the degree of punishment should depend on degree and greivousness of crime .

I remember in past people used to look at these minor tensions between religions as kinda foolish, and leave the tensions to those extremists themselves to fight. But these days, I see amplified posts about a Muslim did this in a Hindu temple, Hindus did that to a Masjid, like dude, I don't give a f**k about what those extremists do to themselves, maybe just hope justice is delivered to victim in that isolated case and that's it, because they are no different from any other hate crimes in this country. But these days, those religious extremists started acting like we are supposed to care about these silly incidents and their snow flake sentiments, even people started caring about these stupid sentiments like they are any use to the country. We collectively should stop thinking about these supposedly sentimental things emotionally and stop paying attention to those who want to benefit from these sentiments. We shouldn't be sentimental about any of ts, they are nothing, no use to the country.

And we should even start looking at these like foolish cases which doesn't have any useful impact on this country if they are solved any more than after a hate crime at the end of the street is solved, and even carry negative impact if we, as public who are supposed to develop this country, care about them any more than needed.