r/exmuslim • • Mar 26 '26

(News) We exist… around the world: 500 ExMuslim stories mubaraaaaaak! 🥳🥳🥳

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Hi community! 🥰

Taking inspiration from QueeringtheMap.com, I helped create exmuslim.me with a small team of ExMuslims last year. We launched the first ever global map of exmuslim stories as part of ExMuslim Month in December 2025.

I’m so incredibly thrilled to share that we now have 500 exmuslim stories from 233 cities and 60 countries! 🥳🥳🥳

📊 59% identify as atheists, 26% agnostic

🇪🇬 Read the 500th story from Egypt

🤗 Thank you to everyone who has shared their story already!

🤍 Share yours and help ExMuslims on their journey out of Islam: https://exmuslim.me/

Cheers! 🥂

Sammy aka Haram Doodles


r/exmuslim • • Jun 03 '24

(Advice/Help) Exmuslim Guide to Living in the Closet and Coming Out.

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Hello. Upon request, I've been asked to turn a comment I made into a post so that it can be a resource for more people. This post is a collection of advice I've given out about how to handle your life as a closeted exmuslim and how you'll come out in the future. It is largely based on my experience but also from what I've seen from others in this subreddit.

Introduction

So you've left Islam. You've delved through arguments, the apologetics and the bullshit and you've come to the conclusion that you no longer believe in Islam. And you may have also reached an alternative philosophical outlook on life that you can believe in.

But what now? You may have left Islam, but have you left the Muslim world? One of the most common misconceptions outsiders have is that since exmuslims are no longer Muslims, they no longer live in the Muslim world. This is painfully naive - in reality many exmuslims are closeted due to young age and financial dependency and/or live in Islamist countries or societies that enforce Islamic values. In fear of social stigma or even violence, exmuslims have to contend with closeted lives even after leaving Islam. So how do you deal with it?

Goal

The best time to come out to family is in your own home, over a dinner you paid for, alongside people who support you. That takes a lot of preparation and it means doing what you can to live your life as best as you can whilst working towards independence.

This basically means that a lot of what helps you come out of the closet will depend heavily on how well you prepared for it, so you will need to make the most of your closeted life. You may not be able to stop the shitstorm but you can at least prepare yourself to weather it. Here are some tips to achieve that goal (in no particular order)

1) Don't meander in life due to a lack of decision making skills.

Probably one of the worst mistakes I made was not realise I was an exmuslim sooner. As a result I had barely any time to prepare for when the inevitable happened and I was forced to come out. I spent a lot of my life meandering, trying to reconcile the irreconcilable, and trying to be a Muslim when I knew my values didn't align with it. I didn't really have much of a concept of exmuslims, but if I had been smarter I would have figured it out. I now tell people in a similar position that it's fine to take your time but don't take too long. Half arsing two very different cultures will leave you a loser in both.

Similarly whilst planning for independence can be scary, don’t let it frighten you into inaction. The following is a passage from this article about decision making:

Research from the 1990s led by the US psychologist Thomas Gilovich provides further evidence for why it can be shortsighted to kick a difficult decision down the road. Gilovich and his team showed that although, in the short term, people experience more regret from ‘errors of commission’ (taking an action that leads to a disappointing outcome), in the long term it is actually ‘errors of omission’ that lead to more regret – that is, disappointing outcomes that arise from not taking an action.

When taking the time to make decisions and plans, don’t underestimate how effective it can be to map out your options on an excel spreadsheet. When I had to decide whether I should come out or not, I actually made a spreadsheet listing out my options, what they would result in and what the impact would be. Actually having it written down to look at really put things into perspective. We waste a lot of our time keeping it in our heads, which forces us to recalculate everything from scratch every time we revisit our thoughts. But the more that is mapped out, the less you have to recalculate and the more you can focus on evaluation and further planning.

2) Study, career and finances.

Your studies/career is almost always your best ticket out of your toxic situation, and the one thing to prioritise the most. If you’re young, do whatever you can to ensure that you can get into further education away from home. Even if it means spending all your time at a local library. If you suspect that your parents would be against you going to a university away from home, aim for a placement at the most prestigious university you can aim for so your parents would look worse for rejecting it. The quickest and most effective way in achieving long term independence is through good studies/career.

3) Do not telegraph irreligiosity whilst being closeted.

This is particularly important for younger exmuslims because they telegraph to their parents in ways they would just not understand until they see it for themselves when they're older. Try your best to meet the religious obligations expected from your family. The more you slip, the more they will monitor you and the more difficult it will be to do the things you need to do discreetly when the time comes.

Unfortunately for girls, this usually means that wearing the hijab is a necessity and it’s inadvisable to try and get out of. (However, that subject matter is not my forte: prioritise advice from exmuslim women such as from faithlesshijabi.org)

4) Sometimes you may need to go above and beyond.

If you get the impression that your family is beginning to catch onto your apostasy then it's likely that they have and you may need to reverse that impression.

One way to do that would be to start getting books on Islam and not just for show. My advice would be to get books on Islamic history because that's the least boring stuff. Or better yet, just get whatever unapologetic salafi hate crime you can get your hands on so you can entertain yourself with how fucked up it is. Or get an annotated Qur'an like the Study Qur'an. Do something to ease their suspicions.

What book you get depends on what kind of message you want to telegraph to your parents. If you want to telegraph a message then it will need to be a paper book and not an e-book. Something that you can lay around in your room and that you know they'll see. That means you're restricted to what you can get from your local library or Masjid. Also depends on what interests you because you'll have to actually read and demonstrate you learnt from it if you want send the best message you can. If you want purely what Muslims write about Islamic history, you can check out works like The Sealed Nectar or works by al-Sallabi. If you want something a little more academic, but not something that would rouse suspicion then check out university press works like this, this, this or this. If you want something a bit more relevant to contemporary Muslim world then there books like this.

But you may find that your best bet is to just see what your local Masjid might have and see what tickles your fancy.

5) Actually coming out is usually a shitstorm.

Be prepared for lots of sobbing, guilt tripping and an inability to respect your beliefs and boundaries. Learn techniques like the Broken Record Technique to establish boundaries. Know what you have to say when they inevitably tell you to speak to a scholar - you don't have to eat the whole apple to know it's rotten. You know all that you need to know about Islam and you know even more about the world outside of Islam to put it into context.

Steel yourself with months and months of your family sending you bad dawagandist videos through WhatsApp trying to bring you back. You may have to spend months beating their attempts and going to toe to toe with them without mercy before they’re finally willing to relent and get off your back. Even then don’t expect them to relent entirely. There will always be some micro aggressions that they will resort to, like playing religious videos loudly in your vicinity. The most you can do in those circumstances is reduce contact with them as much as possible. At this point you would hopefully already be independent from them.

6) Do not feel guilt.

As an exmuslim, you will go through a lot of guilt. Whilst this does show you are human, you need to forget about guilt: you are not responsible for your parents' failure to be reasonable, not even your mother. They take responsibility for the social stigma and oppressive life they choose to live in and perpetuate. You get nothing out of that guilt. It's completely pointless and ultimately counterproductive. You can't set yourself on fire to make others warm and you gain no recognition from martyrizing yourself. Do not feel guilt for what you have to do to have a completely reasonable life. The only ones to blame are those who forced you into it.

Don't underestimate parents either. They will use guilt against you. Give them an inch and they will take a mile. They very often bring up their health problems as a weapon against you. Don't fall for it. It only affects them because they choose to let it affect them. They can choose to be reasonable. You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways.

7) Don't come out too soon thinking it's a release.

I come across a lot of exmuslim kids who think coming out will help explain to their religious parents why they don't want to wear the hijab or do other religious things. But the likelihood is more that those same parents will react extremely poorly and restrict your freedom even more, making it more difficult to achieve long term independence.

There's also the mistake in assuming that coming out will lead to being disowned in the vain hope that you get an quick clean break that takes all the responsibility from you. For some exmuslims this does actually work out, but for a lot of others it's miscalculated. My family didn't disown me, I still had to deal with months of my family being insufferable manipulators and the responsibility was still on me to separate from them. And for women it can be much worse.

Ultimately, if you are financially dependent on your family then coming out early will very typically result in your family using that leverage against you and making your life worse. I've seen stories of exmuslims who thought their family was better and badly miscalculated - be mindful of that.

8) Don’t panic too much if they find out.

Some exmuslims get found out, sometimes because of a snitch in the family or sometimes because they just weren’t convincing enough. Don’t panic – Muslims can be pretty damn deluded about their faith and your family will want to believe that you can come back very easily because according to them Islam is just common sense and most disbelievers are just silly and ignorant. Try to do your best to convince them as per Point 4. If it’s because you did something haram, blasphemous or otherwise worthy of takfir, try to act like it was because you were a misguided Quranist or progressive Muslim. They will still retain suspicion but it’s still better than the alternative.

However, if you’re at the point of no return and you know you can’t convince them then now is the time to make calls to any secular friends you have, ask for support and maybe even shelter.

Also for Western exmuslims, make sure to act quickly if you suspect that your parents want to send you abroad and trap you in your country of ethnic origin. Sadly some parents will go to these lengths. Do not go, no matter the cost. Find organisations willing to advise, such as those listed in Point 10. Hide your passport if you have to. Note down the contact details of your embassy in that country just in case.

9) Go no contact if you fear abuse.

Actually think about whether it's even wise for you to come out in any circumstance. Do you suspect that there could be violence or abuse? If so then you have absolutely no need to go through this stupid bullshit. Leave and don't look back. If your parents couldn't give you safe environment to even come out about different beliefs then they are not worth the time. As per Point 6 - You have to respect their autonomy and let them deal with the consequences of their own ways. This is particularly pertinent for those who live in a predominantly Muslim countries. They have a very real reason to fear persecution and absolutely do not need to risk their own lives for the sake of their parents.

10) Make use of organisations and resources.

Look into secular organisations like recoveringfromreligion.org, faithlesshijabi.org and faithtofaithless.com. Look into women's charities in your area like womensaid.org.uk or karmanirvana.org.uk (UK examples). Look into LGBT charities like rainbowrailroad.org. If you have secular school counsellors and friends then talk to them. Get advice from adults you can absolutely trust.

Note: On the flip side don't take risks with people you can’t be sure of. You may be tempted to come out to your Muslim friend, but I've seen plenty of stories of exmuslims who heavily regret doing so.

There are also informal exmuslim groups on other social media platforms such as Facebook or Discord, but be careful about how much information you share and especially be wary of private messaging.

11) You may have to leave the country.

This is particularly the case for exmuslims living in predominantly Muslim countries. Unfortunately, I don't have any real world experience to offer here but you may be able to find localised advice by digging around. For example sites like wearesaudis.net might have some information (but you'll need a VPN to access this one. If you don't know what a VPN is here's an explanation).

Are you multilingual? If you need money but working is restricted to you then you can try becoming an online language tutor on sites like italki.com (scroll to the bottom). This post and related subreddits like r/WorkOnline may help.

Note: some exmuslims in Muslim countries fall for the doomscrolling hyperbole and think Europe is “doomed” with too many Muslims. They have a tendency of asking which country is best to migrate to as an exmuslim to avoid Islam. Please ignore the doomsayers and prioritise the country you choose based on ease of access and career opportunities. As long as it is a secular country, you can worry about avoiding Islam later.

Final stuff

Shout out to Imtiaz Shams who inspired me to make this list of tips. He has his own YouTube Channel here and plans to make his own video on this subject matter so watch out for that. On a side note, I also recommend TheraminTrees YouTube Channel who delves a lot into toxic dysfunctional families from the perspective of a therapist. A lot of his content helps in dealing with the emotional impact of leaving religion and dealing with a religious family. And finally, thank you to the moderators of r/exmuslim who suggested I make this into a post. I wound up adding a lot more content lol.

I will end this post with a list of subreddits that may help you on your journey leaving Islam:

Ex related subreddits

Other Useful Subreddits


r/exmuslim • • 10h ago

(Rant) 🤬 my parents are screaming at me in the car and arguing for 30+ mins over me getting a MANICURE, A FUCKING MANICURE DONE. anything that brings a girl joy in this fucked up religion is haram

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my 16f crazy ass fucking insane deranged muslim parents are arguing and mad because i got my NAILS done all i did was get them red and a ghost on one nail like holy shit???? what is wrong with you bro??

MY DAD THINKS I SHOULD GET BEAT FOR THIS BTW. SINCE IM "DISOBEYING MY PARENTS AND NOT PRAYING" HE KEPT SAYING ISLAMICALLY PEOPLE SOHULD BEAT THEIR KIDS AFTER 10 YEARS OLD IF THEY DONT PRAY. GO FUCK URSELF U DERANGED OLD MAN FUCK THIS RELIGION AND FUCK THE PEOPLE WHO ENCOURAGED THAT MENTALLY ILL MAN TO BRAINWASH THEIR WHOLE VILLAGE INTO THINKING HE WAS A PROPHET, HE WAS JUST A SCHIZO FREAK.

TOTALLY BRO I SHOULD GET BEAT FOR DOING MY NAILS, A SIMPLE MANICURE WHICH IS NORMAL ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD, ANYTHING THAT BRINGS A GIRL A SEMBELEANCE OF JOY IN THIS RELIGION IS THE WORST THING U CAN DO. IM WORSE THAN NETANYAHU FOR GETTING MY NAILS DONE AND NOT PRAYING. PRAYING IS SO FUCKING STUPID I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO IT I HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THAT SICK "GOD" GOD ISNT REAL AND IS A CONCEPT MADE UP BY ELITES TO CONTROL EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE.

my dad keeps insinuating i’m a bad child bc i got my nails done and my moms extremely mad lmaoooo im crine i can’t wait to leave this house

he’s saying im “out of control” and that i should be hit bc i don’t pray just because i fucking got a MANICURE and one ghost nail holy shit??

i hate this household and i hate them it is literally normal to get ur nails done and they act like im committing the biggest crime of the century

my dad is literally insinuating to my mom that i should get beat and that im a “lost child who is astray” OVER SOMETHINT THAT IS FUCKINT REGULAR IN THIS COUNTRY. EGERY GIRL I KNOW GETS THEIR NAILS DONE, BUT NOOOO IM SO FUCKING EVIL AND DISOBEDIENT RIGHT??

my stupid ass father thinks im the worst and most evil daughter in the world bc i enjoy getting my nails done. my pick me mom kept crying ab the price and talking ab how astray i am “u can’t pray with ur nails, they are dirty, sharam karo”

YEAH BECAUSE I SHOULD BE MISERABLE JUST LIKE YOU RIGHT AND NOT DO SHIT FOR MYSELF SHE NEGER TAKES CARE OF HERSELF HER WHOLR LIFE REVOLVES AROUNR HER STUPID ASS HUSBAND 20 Yo older than her

i can’t fucking stand this i can’t take this household anymore i want my license i wanna take myself to these places. fuck my dad fuck my mom fuck my stupid ass religious relatives i hate all of them i wish could just die bruh. i don’t even wanna live in this environment im so exhausted

they’re just jealous my nails are tea and their hands are cracked as fuck from leaning on their stupid prayer mat all the time and chanting shit sorry my hands are soft and urs aren’t dodox


r/exmuslim • • 16h ago

Story Met another ex-muslim in the wild. Reddit is the cupid <3

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We met on exmuslimr4r back in 2024. I was looking for an ex-muslim man because marrying a muslim man was a HUGE NO and other options were getting disowned lol. Found a great middle path where we both will act like partners in crime in front of our family 😙 I'm thankful we met in the ocean of religious fanatics in this country. Life will be smoother fosho.

I'm definitely exmuslim4exmuslim 💯 💯

Oh btw wearing a crop top for the first time 😝 family doesn't need to know.


r/exmuslim • • 3h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Gng, I’m so glad, I hope actions are fairly enacted!!

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r/exmuslim • • 9h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 These horrifying comments I saw

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idk how to answer at all


r/exmuslim • • 4h ago

(Question/Discussion) im so tired of all these fabrications

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i really wanna ask mozlems who they think they’re fooling other than themselves? you can’t say “hijab is fardh” and still call islam a “feminist” religion like it just doesn’t add up.


r/exmuslim • • 12h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Insanity insanity insanity

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ive been terrified this is gonna end up as me

the knowledge im either risking hell for eternity or i will never truly be free

i know logically islam isnt true but i will never fully be free from it

thats what happens when they make you spend 30+ hours a week drilling falsehood into your mind. you believe it

fuck islam and fuck this life


r/exmuslim • • 8h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Is it normal that I feel raging jealousy when I see free women bc it could've been me?

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Whenever I see online a white girl (European or white American) being able to wear what she wants, hang out with who she wants at any hour, come home late without getting beat for it, her parents know she dates or goes at her bf's place, I feel this immense raging jealousy...it could've been me, I could've been born in one of those countries in those families but no I just had to be in a muslim country and it makes me so mad because I envy that life, I won't ever have it and if I do manage to leave my country I'd have to go in no contact with my family and all that complicated stuff.


r/exmuslim • • 3h ago

(Advice/Help) I witnessed my mom seemingly get possessed during ruqyah as a child. Now that I’m agnostic, I don’t understand what I saw.

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I grew up Muslim, and when I was younger, my mom once had Quran ruqyah done on her because people believed she was affected I was affected by a jinn (I kept having sleep paralysis and was extremely depressed).

The second the sheikh started reciting the Quran out loud, my mom started crying and then completely lost control of herself, as I remember it. She was screaming, flailing her legs, repeating the same things over and over, and talking about random things. She was normally an extremely modest woman, but she was moving around so much that her underwear was showing (not to be weird or anything but she wasn’t acting like herself. The sheikh was using a taser on her, praying, and shoving some random green substance into her mouth (rose water, honey and herbs I believe cause he made me drink it too). Afterward, my mom didn’t remember what had happened.

I was a child and was absolutely terrified. I wasn’t allowed to tell anyone about it. I remember sitting in the corner praying that the jinn would possess me instead so my mom wouldn’t have to go through it anymore. I felt prickling on my body as this occurred too.

I barely thought about this experience for years, but now that I’m agnostic, I keep wondering what the hell I actually witnessed.

The part I can’t get over is that she started crying the moment the Quran recitation began. I know what I saw, but I don’t know how to explain it anymore.
Has anyone witnessed something similar during ruqyah? Are there psychological or neurological explanations for episodes like this?


r/exmuslim • • 22h ago

(Miscellaneous) BARS!! Said under a YouTube video on Islam

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Said under a YouTube video on Islam

Edit: source, https://youtu.be/ZijSuM6lKcY?si=rCIs0xPoygUH6eRL

I haven’t watched full video, just looked at the comments.


r/exmuslim • • 7h ago

(Miscellaneous) imagine a man loving you this much, the capitalization of the “You” too this is my dream as an anti-theist girl

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dream man wallahi #wifedat

would sort of heal some of my religious trauma with islam like this is so intimate and loving

its so spiteful, loving and just completely contradicting what islam says

men are evil tho so 99% chance this won’t happen, they wouldn’t say this out of pure love, they’d say it with the intention of lust/ sexual desire, my dms will be full of these people in a moment 🫩


r/exmuslim • • 8h ago

(Question/Discussion) Breh islam is really out here ruining lives

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my 18th bday is gonna be in ramadan.... ffs. most of my friends who i hang out with regularly are muslim so i can't even go grab food.... and the friend I smoke 🍃 is muslim sooo shes not gonna wanna fast. RIP to me i cant even have fun on my own bday or even bday week i'm so bummed out maynnnn


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Question/Discussion) Never been Muslim here…

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Background: I’m Orthodox Christian, I’ve always been interested in studying other religions to try and understand why other groups believe in what they believe, but wow was I disgusted upon reading about Quran 23, this dude really condoned raping slaves, and people read that and think he’s a genuine voice of God???????? How????????


r/exmuslim • • 16h ago

(Question/Discussion) Does he answering his own question ?

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r/exmuslim • • 6h ago

(Question/Discussion) Have you made it out your family?

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I plan on leaving without telling them, in next year for a scolarship, leaving the country,

I just feel extremely upset about my mother, will she grow white hair earlier because of me? Wil she cry everyday? That her daughter turned out like this, I'm not her only child yeah, I don't know if this fact helps it, will she be very upset? Face criticizing from others? I keep getting upset about her,


r/exmuslim • • 10h ago

LGBTQ+ 27F4M Saudi lesbian looking for a Saudi gay man for a lavender marriage

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I'm looking for a Saudi man who is serious about building a respectful and genuine partnership. Age and location aren't important, as long as we're compatible and willing to make it work. Preferably someone who is Qabali (tribal).

I value friendship, honesty, privacy, mutual respect, and personal freedom. I'd like us to get to know each other first and openly discuss our expectations before taking any serious steps.

If you're Saudi, gay, and genuinely looking for something similar, feel free to DM me.


r/exmuslim • • 3h ago

(Question/Discussion) Guys I had a question about muslims?

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Like we see that in so many countries hijab is compulsory for women and women are forced to cover their faces,marry early that too to the guy who is like almost twice the age of them,not given full freedom to do what they want but in a few muslim people who are liberal they don't do all these things and they have given full freedom to their daughters as well and they treat men and woman equally. So why do we see these 2 opposite extreme sides of islam that people are following? Like I don't understand. Like is it actually written in quran and other holy books of islam that women have to be treated this way or that way?? If someone could explain me it would have been amazing!.


r/exmuslim • • 16h ago

(Question/Discussion) lol allah has a beef with gay people, why are you lusting men, I gave you women 😠

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r/exmuslim • • 23h ago

(Rant) 🤬 Women's "modesty"

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My veryy Muslim parents (dad wears a kurta/thobe and mom wears an abaya and hijab), absolutely detest the fact that I don't dress "modestly" according to them and Islam.

Yall *this* is the amount of skin that I was showing. My mother said "absolutely disgusting.. how can you walk around with us like that" and they both forced me to change 🙄🙃 I really, truly hate Islam.


r/exmuslim • • 21h ago

(Fun@Fundies) 💩 Criticizing a bad thing is different than cherry picking to create hate

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r/exmuslim • • 9h ago

(Miscellaneous) The life of Exmuslims living in islamic community

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Living in an islamic country as an exmuslim is really terrifying and tiring especially if ALL of your family think the same way as the community,
The loneliness you'd experience if you don’t know any heretic people like you or if they literally don’t gaf about the religion and the rules.

The hate/oppression you’d experience is the terrifying part cuz imagine having your own thoughts and beliefs as an individual and basically get hated for it and the person next door is married to a child and they love him! isn’t that crazy? Despite the fact there’s a high chance you will get murdered for your beliefs


r/exmuslim • • 6h ago

(Rant) 🤬 as a hijabi, there’s something so uniquely dehumanizing…

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this is probably specifically a western country thing and very dumb and small
so i have to wear the hijab and abaya outside because im back at my parents’ house, ew gross 🍅 🍅
and i was at a clothes store. now this may be because i didnt really bother to put in effort into my appearance today, unwashed face, hair slipping out, disheveled, whatever.
i bumped into this very fashionable hijabi in a shirt and jeans. i gave her a small smile and she gave me the weirdest look
whyyy does this happen to me every time? is it because of the abaya? because i look like crap and im breaking out lol? because she can smell the exmuslim fumes coming off of me?
why are hijabi girls … kinda mean and clique-ey? or is that just a universal girl thing, unrelated to being muslim?
but i feel like other girls can understand, that disdain and judgment is very specific.
can anyone relate? any similar experiences? any insight in the ‘why’ behind this? if youre a guy reading my dumb ramble, is this a thing with muslim guys too?

(oh and its uniquely dehumanizing because that look literally lives in my head rent free everytime it happens and i feel like a blob monster whenever i get it. though in this case, it might have been moreso the abaya than the hijab? i have no idea)


r/exmuslim • • 2h ago

(Question/Discussion) Okay, I was having this argument regarding slaves trade in Madina. So my friend was saying that its not true and the references provided are not authentic

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Can i get authentic references related to how slaves were traded during Prophet's time?


r/exmuslim • • 17h ago

(News) New Laws in Morocco that are slowly giving women the dignity they deserve.

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Some pro-muslims are calling these changes unfair and non-Islamic, but it just exposed how muslim men abused the f** out of the religion for their own gain. What frustrated me was the people who were defending underage marriage. That's crazy. Housewives will now also get paid for helping run the household. I found that to be pretty neat.