Nvidia reportedly ends GeForce RTX 5090 graphics card production

[u/SharkyIzrod]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/nvidia-reportedly-ends-geforce-rtx-5090-graphics-card-production

[u/Firefox72]

As Tim from HUB already said in his latest video. The GPU has been $3.5k+ for over half a year now. Then $5k+ since August and $7k+ for the past 2 months.

Its effectively been discontinued as a gaming GPU for a while now. Whether Nvidia makes it official or not is irelevant at this point.

[u/yukeake → u/Firefox72]

Yeah, no hobbyist or gamer is buying a $5000-$7000 GPU unless they're absolutely loaded and simply don't care about money. That's well beyond "pro-sumer" pricing. At those prices, the original target market is priced out. Since Nvidia simply doesn't care about that market anymore, it's not particularly surprising that they're discontinuing it.

[u/vic_stroganoff → u/yukeake]

Thought about selling mine, but figured the only people that could afford it would be well off enough to just grab one from a retailer. The other person "buying" would be a scammer. No thanks.

[u/boogeraidspoopaids_c → u/yukeake]

Said it about RAM, applies here too. There's no shortage, we're just not the market anymore.

[u/nohumanape → u/yukeake]

I feel like it's almost daily that someone over at r/PCgaming posts a new build with a 5090 or an upgrade to a 5090.

[u/yukeake → u/nohumanape]

Really gotta wonder where some of these folks are getting the money from.

Of course these could also be older purchases from the before-times when 5090s were "only" $2000 (msrp), but you had to win the lottery against the botters to have the chance to buy one. Or they could be friends/family second-hand purchases, where folks are less concerned about profit.

[u/nohumanape → u/yukeake]

I mean, I worry that many are likely poor financial decisions. (Maxing out a credit card).

[u/BawbsonDugnut → u/yukeake]

Really gotta wonder where some of these folks are getting the money from.

I bought mine with a corporate bonus back in 2025.

[u/Whiskiie → u/Firefox72]

Genuinely thought you were exaggerating because that's what reddit does, but no, checked a dealer and if they had any 5090s they were around 6k. Holy shit.

[u/DY357LX → u/Whiskiie]

£5800 in the UK, which is around $7600 USD. Insane.

Overclockers stock.
Scan stock.
Currys stock.

I'm playing my backlog and squeezing another 2 years out of my 3080Ti FE.

[u/robodrew → u/DY357LX]

2 years out of my 3080Ti FE

2 years ahahahah I'll be using my 3080 until it catches on fire

[u/biggles1994 → u/robodrew]

My 3070 is going to see me well into the 2030’s I expect.

[u/ShawtySayWhaaat → u/biggles1994]

Geriatric gamers, I'm checking in with my 2080ti i got right before the Bitcoin mining craze

[u/ThrowawayusGenerica → u/ShawtySayWhaaat]

I'm a lot like Sisyphus, except instead of a boulder it's a 1080 ti, and instead of a hill it's another year

[u/ironardin → u/biggles1994]

At this pace, my Vega 56 will be seeing the heat death of the universe.

[u/at1445 → u/robodrew]

Yep, I'll be using my 3080 either until it dies or prices come down (lmao).

It plays every game I want to play at solid fps and high or better settings. And I don't see that changing anytime soon because the only game I've ever paid anything close to "new retail" price for was the new Battlefield, and that was solely to use it as a medium for socializing with my friends.

99% of my purchased games are under $15, and most are under 10. I'm pretty much the poster child for /r/patientgamers .

[u/Whiskiie → u/DY357LX]

I grudgingly bought a 5080 at launch for 999$ because I never wanted to spend that amount of money on a GPU, but we all know how this turned out. Crazy times.

[u/DY357LX → u/Whiskiie]

I was tempted for a 5080 but held off because I thought a 5080 Super or 5080 Ti would follow 6-12 months after the 5080... I was wrong. And if one does appear it'll be at a very silly price.

[u/fddfgs → u/Whiskiie]

Yeah i got a pre built with a 5070 about 18 months ago and it's crazy to me that it's worth more now than what I paid at the time (AU$1600)

I was running with a 1070 before that and I won't pretend I was keeping up but I could play cyberpunk in 1080p with no issues

[u/Whiskiie → u/fddfgs]

The 2x16gig RAM kit I bought is now worth almost 6x as much...

[u/robodrew → u/Whiskiie]

Yep my biggest regret when I built my pc in 2022 was buying 32GB DDR5 ram instead of 64GB.

[u/Whiskiie → u/robodrew]

I think we will be fine until the rampocalypse is over. Maybe. Do you already experience bottlenecks?

[u/robodrew → u/Whiskiie]

I do but that's because some of my work involves high poly models/scenes, high res textures, or editing uncompressed 4k+ video

[u/Iess-Risk-9358 → u/robodrew]

Yep my biggest regret when I built my pc in 2022 was buying 32GB DDR5 ram instead of 64GB.

You can get more bandwidth out of DDR4 than out of DDR5 if you use a workstation platform. For instance, the HP Z8 G4 has six channels of memory for each socket, and there are two sockets.

Threadrippers have even more channels per socket than that.

It's a pain in the butt, but you can basically:

• Buy a modern PC, like a Dell Area 51

• Remove the 5090, put it in a seven year old workstation like the HP Z8 G4

• Sell the DDR5, buy ECC DDR4

Basically the DDR5 is so valuable, you can sell it and fund an entire workstation platform, a platform where the RAM is much less expensive.

Downside is your CPU options are then limited. A pair of these gives you 40 Xeon cores for under $100:

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/192437/intel-xeon-gold-6230-processor-27-5m-cache-2-10-ghz/specifications.html

However it is seven years old.

[u/inhospitable → u/fddfgs]

I just upgraded my 1080 to a 5070 a month ago for $1500nzd. I bit the bullet cause I knew I would need to upgrade eventually and the prices were only going to go up. It's already up to $1700nzd now.

[u/Iess-Risk-9358 → u/fddfgs]

Yeah i got a pre built with a 5070 about 18 months ago and it's crazy to me that it's worth more now than what I paid at the time (AU$1600)

5090s are selling for $7500 on Amazon and you can get an entire computer with a 5090 for $8000 from HP or Dell. Or at least you could yesterday (I haven't checked today.)

[u/I_Am_A_Pumpkin → u/Whiskiie]

yep same boat except I caved and bought it at markup off of a scalper a couple weeks after launch since my gpu at the time had died.

now I'm wondering how much a founders edition 5080 would sell for, it might even turn a profit

[u/thekrone → u/Whiskiie]

I have a 4090 I bought in January of 2023 for $2000. The exact same model is selling for $3500-4000. Three and a half years later.

[u/Chode-Talker → u/thekrone]

Buying my new PC with a 4090 in late 2022 is something I become more and more grateful for every day. It felt like a massive purchase at the time (and it was, relatively), but seeing what it would cost just to buy the same goddamn thing is both a relief and absolutely terrifying. It still serves me incredibly well for 4K gameplay, I love it, but god forbid anything goes wrong with it... I don't know what I'd do.

[u/mennydrives → u/Whiskiie]

2-3x the performance of a 9070 XT (and 5070 Ti if you can still get one for less than $1000) for 2x the power draw at 9x the street price. It's been a silly card for ages.

[u/bullintheheather → u/Whiskiie]

I'm never buying a new PC again, am I.

[u/Whiskiie → u/bullintheheather]

Give it a couple of years.

[u/dorkimoe → u/Whiskiie]

i bought mine in December for 2499 at BestBuy, its not 5,099 (sold out). I bought it right when they said they were delaying cards and more info about shortages came out.

[u/a34fsdb → u/Whiskiie]

Yeah its crazy. I regret not getting one before. I guess I will buy the 6090 when it hits

[u/Scorpius289 → u/a34fsdb]

Implying they'll even make a 6090 anymore. And even if they do, it's unlikely to be any cheaper than the current 5090, unless the AI bubble pops in the meantime.

[u/theholylancer → u/[deleted]]

ehhhh the workstation RTX 6000 pro has 96 GB of vram from 32

if the consumer one has 48 GB of vram, I assume that means the workstation model of the 6090 is going to have 128 or something GBs of vram

[u/Maelstrom52 → u/Scorpius289]

The thing about the "AI bubble" popping is that it wouldn't mean AI goes away. The dot-com bubble burst in the early 2000s, but the internet didn't disappear. Just because "Pets.com" shuttered (along with countless other websites) didn't mean demand for internet services evaporated. You might be right that an AI bubble bursting could dramatically reduce investment in data centers and PC hardware, but it's also possible that the companies surviving the crash would simply acquire their competitors' assets and continue expanding. A collapse in speculative investment doesn't necessarily translate into cheaper consumer GPUs.

[u/flybypost → u/Maelstrom52]

the companies surviving the crash would simply acquire their competitors' assets and continue expanding.

Even Google, who essentially get "free money" via its ad business, is borrowing money to pay for this AI frenzy. I don't know how Oracle is going to pay all it has promised until now, and MS also put a lot of its exiting free cash into this (haven't read up on their finances too much).

If the bubble bursts and the big players buy up the shrivelled corpses of all the right now extremely valued AI startups for pennies, then they will probably calm down their own spending significantly. They can't keep spending at that rate without the equivalent upside. And they also need money to buy the next billion dollar unicorn startup :/

Even now, they'd need to sell AI subscriptions with excessively huge profit margins to every single human on earth or something ridiculous like that to justify their spending and what that means to their future dividends and share price. Every paying user is maybe barely profitable for any given AI company right now.

There's just no way this can work in the long term without some sort of magic miraculously making everything freakishly cheap. Venture Capital money that had no "reasonable" outlet (after cryptocurrencies and NFTs) for a few years (and actual debt) is the only thing keeping the bubble from popping.

Half of the RAM/disk apocalypse happened because all those companies combined promised to buy products way into the future at a stupidly high price point because they don't want to be seen as giving up on the AI race.

That's also one of the reason AI companies want to go public (they are at the limit of what VC money and debt can buy them). They need the money to pay for some of the data centres their own buying spree made so expensive and hope to keep the hype train going.

Funnily enough the one company who looks like it will be getting away without major damage is Apple. They never invested into AI to such a degree and their attempts failed so miserably that they are renting AI capacity from Google and essentially integrating Google's AI offerings as a bonus feature on their devices at a comparably cheap price point.

If/when the AI bubble pops their worst fumble will be the ads that over-promised AI features and that got them sued and that they might be paying a bit too much to access Google's AI capacity for a little while.

[u/Maelstrom52 → u/flybypost]

To be clear, my argument wasn't that this is definitively what will happen, but that it could happen. There are too many variables we can't accurately predict right now, including enterprise adoption, industrial applications, and the broader commercialization of AI. Any of these could significantly increase demand for AI computing infrastructure, even if the speculative investment bubble collapses. A collapse in valuations doesn't necessarily mean a corresponding collapse in demand for the underlying technology.

With that said, I don't necessarily disagree that current AI infrastructure spending is unsustainable, but that's not really the distinction I'm making. A financial correction doesn't mean demand for AI computing disappears. The companies that survive could acquire distressed infrastructure and continue expanding, even if the pace of new hardware purchases slows.

And that's really my point. You're assuming that an AI investment crash would necessarily translate into cheaper consumer GPUs. It might ease supply constraints, but that's not the same as NVIDIA suddenly having the incentive, or competitive pressure, to substantially lower GeForce prices.

The dot-com crash didn't end demand for internet infrastructure. It changed who owned it and how investment was allocated. I don't see why we should assume an AI correction would automatically restore consumer GPU pricing to pre-boom levels.

[u/flybypost → u/Maelstrom52]

You're assuming that an AI investment crash would necessarily translate into cheaper consumer GPUs.

I'm saying that I don't think they will be spending at the same rate as they are now (or even expanding) because from all the numbers we can see to date it seems unsustainable. At some point there's simply no nest egg, no debt, and no venture capital to keep going like this. I don't see it expanding based on the rate we are now in this hype cycle where the big players are all now finally under some pressure to show that those investments were worth is.

These companies are buying up RAM, storage, and chips years in advance. Why would they keep buying at "right now hype rates" if the hype were to crash?

Plus, AI adoption in the wider corporate world seems to be driven more by mandate from above to use it than it actually offering all the benefits AI companies are proclaiming with new usage records every month being now driven more by AI that was shoehorned into every app as a feature (mails, internet search overviews,…) and accidental usage and this pumping up the numbers than intentional usage of AI tools.

With AI hype or AI pessimism, this seems to be the average result (and that's from a company that heavily bought into the idea of AI) and reality of these tools:

https://fortune.com/2026/09/17/shopify-tobias-lutke-ai-slop-grenades/

The tech leaders who once hailed AI use as the key to unlocking every employee’s full potential are now changing their tune.

This includes Shopify cofounder and CEO Tobias Lütke. He told employees last year that using AI is “a baseline expectation,” and they should first prove they “cannot get what they want done using AI” before asking for more resources. He’s now saying Shopify employees are producing unexamined emails and code with AI and not taking responsibility for the sloppy output.

“We call those ‘slop grenades’ that people toss at each other,” he said during an interview on The Knowledge Project podcast on Tuesday. “That’s definitely a bad thing.”

I do think that while at some point things will calm down because right now semi-conductor production is extremely heavily skewed towards data centre usage it won't mean cheaper hardware for us. Even if the AI bubble were to pop right now it would take time to adapt more towards end user hardware (and they all went heavily for the big data centre profit margin). It wouldn't be worth hoping for cheaper hardware soon even if we were to celebrate the bankruptcy of all AI companies tomorrow.

In my opinion the survivors wouldn't be expanding, mainly because all those tech companies were so cash-flow positive and bunkering money for years now that they'd have to first adjust to the new reality they bought into over the last few years after the hype has crashed around them.

The dot-com crash didn't end demand for internet infrastructure. It changed who owned it and how investment was allocated. I don't see why we should assume an AI correction would automatically restore consumer GPU pricing to pre-boom levels.

But the dot-com crash did lead to a reevaluation of how much to invest in/spend on online businesses. Investors didn't just keep throwing incredible amounts of money after any company with an online presence. Things consolidated and spending shrunk to a more reasonable rate.

Similar here, after things calm down a bunch of companies would keep "AI as a feature" (either their own or leased from somebody else) but there'd be no reason to keep investing hundreds of billions into that one feature just to stay competitive like they do now.

[u/Shakzor → u/a34fsdb]

this is assuming it won't be absurdly highly priced, which it VERY likely will

Nvidia is completely in "AI is great! If it's too expensive, rent instead of owning your hardware!", so there's a 100% chance the 6000s series will cost ATLEAST 50% if not 100% or more than the current one, so the 6090 would likely launch at like 5k if not closer to 7k+

[u/Zalvren → u/Shakzor]

I mean that's simply the same price. The MSRP of the 5090 was a sweet dream

[u/RandomJPG6 → u/a34fsdb]

You gonna wait until 2030?

I was on a 670 from 2013 until 2020 when I upgraded to a 3080. Looks like im doing the same thing

[u/KirbyQK → u/Whiskiie]

They're over 10 grand here in Australia

[u/aSooker → u/Firefox72]

It's not irrelevant, because this will likely cause the 5080 price to increase further.

[u/RiderUnmasked → u/aSooker]

this will likely cause the 5080 price to increase further.

It 100% will go up in price...knowing the 5080 is now the realistic top card and primed for resell. I don't see how a new 5080 card will sell for anything less than 3k in a year.

The consumer market is fucked.

[u/jsheard → u/Firefox72]

And now it's effectively $10,000, because that's what the closest pro equivalent costs. Basically the same thing but with 48GB of VRAM instead of 32GB. Technically you can game on one of those, but... no thanks.

[u/metal079 → u/jsheard]

No the closest thing is 16,000, those 10k cards don't use the same chip as the 5090, they use a weaker one.

[u/jsheard → u/metal079]

Oh you're right-ish. I remembered correctly that the $10k card uses the same GB202 chip as the 5090, but that card has tons of cores disabled, so it's closer to the 5080's GB203 in practice. You do have to go up to the $16k card to get something that's actually kind of equivalent to the 5090.

[u/probably-not-Ben → u/Firefox72]

I bought mine beginning of year (first weeks of Jan) thinking - its now or never

I expected price increases. But the thing has near tripled in value

That is insane

[u/UnchainedSora → u/probably-not-Ben]

It's crazy to think that the price has skyrocketed so much that you could sell it used and still easily make nice profit.

[u/legaldrinkingage]

Whether I cannot buy a 5090 because it costs 6k € or because its no longer being sold really makes no difference to me.

[u/amusicalfridge → u/legaldrinkingage]

It’ll hopefully make a difference to game devs. Outside of future-proofing, game devs can’t rightfully target a 5090 as the requirement for 4k60 when a card that powerful is literally not on the market. Whether it will in actuality stop them is an entirely different story.

[u/Lukeyy19 → u/amusicalfridge]

Why would game devs have ever targeted a card that only made up a tiny insignificant fraction of their userbase?

[u/InfernalCombustion → u/Lukeyy19]

Why would game devs have ever targeted a card that only made up a tiny insignificant fraction of their userbase?

Devs have been doing this since CRYSIS, which is why "But can it run Crysis?" became a meme in the first place.

[u/ultrasneeze → u/Lukeyy19]

They don't. Dumb people like to crank all graphics settings to max and pretend that's what the devs intended.

[u/whensmahvelFGC]

Honestly, I miss upgrading my PC. Being an enthusiast was fun. Every few years I'd get a growing itch. I enjoyed reading about GPU performance. Looking for the best bang-for-my-budget options. Deciding every few years if I genuinely card about this upgrade cycle or if my components were still good enough.

I never thought I'd miss the FOMO, but when components are at the "I need to seriously weigh this purchase against the value of other significant expenses" this turns from a fun hobby into what starts to feel more like an addiction I need to kick.

I was never in the market for a 5090 at launch, but at that point I was thinking "I could just wait a few years or maybe wait for the price of a 5080 to drop" and now it looks like the 4070Ti I'm running might legitimately be the last and only graphics card I buy this decade, and maybe for the rest of my life. We're palying by completely different rules now and I don't like it.

[u/ephemeriis_ → u/whensmahvelFGC]

Honestly, I miss upgrading my PC. Being an enthusiast was fun.

I haven't been an enthusiast for a while now... But I have fond memories.

I was really getting into gaming back around 2000 when the technology was moving fast. Felt like there was a new chip every other week. I remember seeing those crazy 3dfx boxes on store shelves.

It was fun reading the specs and benchmarks. Looking up compatible hardware. Pricing out the best options. Putting in a big order and waiting while the boxes arrived. Admiring my little pile of treasure before assembling it all. Crossing my fingers for the first POST. Cursing and trying to track down the right drivers just to get Windows to fully boot. The first benchmarks. The first gameplay - always cranked as high as it could go just to see what would happen.

These days that just doesn't seem feasible. I mean, yeah, enthusiasts are always going to exist... But I feel like the pricing has just gotten stupid these days. Nobody is paying $7k for a video card alone. And if you aren't going for super-high-end equipment and squeezing out every last frame you can... I dunno, building my own machine just doesn't feel worth the effort. Off-the-shelf is so much easier and cheaper.

[u/Madzai → u/ephemeriis_]

The only saving grace is that amount of games i want\have to upgrade my system for is now like zero. I still game like every day, but not AAA anymore. Maybe new Total War games, but maybe someone release decent "middle" GPU by the time those games release. I hope Devs realize that gamers won't be having top notch systems in-masse anytime soon, so they make better optimization, even at the cost of visuals...

[u/MoonStache → u/whensmahvelFGC]

Yeah I'm someone who gets the "itch" every 2 - 3 years or so but that timeline has ironically extended further and further despite my fun money increasing a shitload.

I miss early days of buildapcsales when deals were actually insane and you could pull off some crazy trades to effectively get a low / no-cost PC. It was to the point where I could build and sell full builds as a hobby with basically no risk because I could sell for a little under MSRP and still make a tiny bit.

Used to buy because I enjoyed tech and the hobby but now it feels like buying is obligatory if you need or want hardware because if you don't buy now you're either getting nothing or you're paying 2x.

Not just PC hardware either though. It feels like literally everything is so hyper-commoditized and scalped. I can't even get tickets to a show at a tiny venue for an artist almost no one knows about because they're being scalped for like a $100 markup. It's fucking ridiculous.

[u/Frigorific → u/whensmahvelFGC]

It will come back eventually, but we are probably in for 4-5 years of unaffordable gaming hardware.

[u/Inevitable_Wing_2600 → u/Frigorific]

Yes, this pricing won't last forever but it takes a long time for additional factories to get spun up. At some point supply will catch up and demand for new datacenter compute won't be so high and prices will come back down to reasonable levels again.

[u/DivineInsanityReveng → u/whensmahvelFGC]

4070Ti still has some solid legs on it. I'm running a 2080 that I coughed up for thinking it was good future proofing. Picked the worst gen to upgrade in and have been hesitant to buy since and waited long enough that AI destroyed being a basic consumer in this market.

[u/whensmahvelFGC → u/DivineInsanityReveng]

my 4070ti is totally fine, i can run 99.999% of titles out there on ultra graphics or get insane framerates in whatever title i want, i really can't complain

but on the schedule i used to live by, right about now is when i'd be considering another upgrade (necessary or not)

[u/WetRacoon → u/whensmahvelFGC]

I was the same for a couple decades but I realize now this race to the top for pc gamers was damaging to gaming itself and is a big reason for why we’re in this predicament of ever increasing hardware prices (yes, the chip shortage is to blame but look at what happened during COVID, which was an entirely different situation). Spec chasing overtook actually enjoying games and if it wasn’t for indie gaming we’d have endless amounts of games requiring high specs that aren’t even very good. Hoping that a pull back in occurs where people stop chasing ridiculously high FPS, resolutions and other technologies and spend that money on games from devs who make the thing that actually matters - video games.

[u/Godninja → u/whensmahvelFGC]

This is almost verbatim my own thoughts. I always tell people if my 4070Ti dies I’m not going to replace it and just use my Steam Deck. 

I quite literally can’t afford to upgrade or replace anything in my PC at this point, and I make solid money. Dunno how anybody thinks the consumer side will survive if Micron and Nvidia are treating it like a footnote on their earnings statements.

[u/MiddleConscious5951]

I think that we're just not really getting new GPUs anymore until architectures get advanced enough that they can sell a 60/70 tier chip as a flagship model and still report comparable performance to a 5080 or 5090. Same with AMD.

Basically its not worth selling silicon that large to gamers anymore. I think we're going to be getting the scraps of the wafers they can't turn into high margin datacenter parts.

That said, pretty annoyed that nvidia shoved raytracing onto everybody and now studios love it because it makes lighting dev work much easier. Then nvidia goes "oops! well we don't want to sell high performance silicon to you anymore. good luck!"

[u/KumagawaUshio → u/MiddleConscious5951]

Considering the 5090 is coming up to it's second birthday without a successor and even the optimistic think it won't be replaced till after it's 3rd birthday yeah no more new GPU's for gamers.

[u/MiddleConscious5951 → u/KumagawaUshio]

I think 3 years is optimistic.

Like my guess is that the consumer segment is just going to be skipping architecture generations until nvidia can sell a xx60/xx70 sized chip as a 5090 class card without advertising worse performance and pretend that it isn't what they would be selling as midrange anyways in a normal tech market.

Maybe when this happens they'll push the power efficiency angle lol

"5090 class performance under 200 watts! A world first for blah blah blah"

[u/infamusforever223 → u/MiddleConscious5951]

Or China catches up to the GPU makers and takes their market share.

[u/No2Hypocrites → u/infamusforever223]

One can dream

[u/CaptainGoldRum]

Gonna build me my dream gaming pc when cyberpunk project Orion releases I wonder how things will be then

[u/JonesDahl → u/CaptainGoldRum]

the way things are going, youd be lucky if we even got the 70xx generation until then. gpu development seems to have slowed and shifted focus to cheap gains through AI that makes the game look like total ass

[u/69ANIME69 → u/JonesDahl]

The way things are going, in a few years from now we'll be streaming all our games from services with outrageous subscription fees.

[u/8-Brit → u/69ANIME69]

That won't happen until internet service improves globally. It's why it keeps failing.

[u/Academic-Factor-4551 → u/8-Brit]

Dozens of comments in here assuming streaming boxes are inevitable but failing to realize this

[u/8-Brit → u/Academic-Factor-4551]

Even my "normie" brother who just plays sports and racing games noticed input lag and artefact when I tried out Geforce Now on a whim so he could try a racing game without waiting for a download.

And that was with brand spanking new full fibre. Which a significant number of people still don't even have so it would be even worse for them. At this point internet speed is throttled by this little thing called the laws of physics and isn't likely getting better without a new technology altogether.

I'm sure Nvidia etc are foaming at the mouth to try and make us subscribe to virtual PCs instead but it is quite simply not happening within a decade at minimum.

[u/dvlsg → u/8-Brit]

Can't beat the speed of light, and there are a lot of games people are unwilling to accept the increased input lag on.

[u/8-Brit → u/dvlsg]

Even outside high speed games like Fighting Games and MOBAs and shooters, my brother got frustrated at just a two or so second delay on steering in a racing game. It's that tangible even if you're not gaming on the edge.

Regular people will absolutely notice a severe drop in control quality or visual quality. Imagine buying a 4k TV and then your stream is a blurry mess that smears when too much happens at once.

[u/JonesDahl → u/69ANIME69]

if that literally will be the case, i will stop gaming

[u/Zaptruder → u/JonesDahl]

Existing GPUs and games will still exist... and a raft of smaller developers happy to continue serving the old model.

I don't think gaming will be going the way of the cloud, as much as tech execs would love that.

[u/Fenixius → u/Zaptruder]

They only last a decade or two, though, so if home gaming GPU production is completely subsumed into AI hardware production, it'll only be around 15-20 years that people who buy cards today can keep them going... 

[u/Zaptruder → u/Fenixius]

I think that assumes that AI hardware build out continues at the current rate and that production capacity doesn't catch up to fulfill demand and that alternatives don't also attempt to step in to fill a still reasonably lucrative void.

[u/patentedenemy → u/JonesDahl]

This. I don't care for it enough to stick around if that's the only way to play.

[u/Loeffellux → u/patentedenemy]

*AAA gaming

I cannot imagine that indie gaming will ever require a state-of-the-art GPU

[u/all-the-right-moves → u/Loeffellux]

They shouldn't, but there are plenty of UE5-based indies with poor optimisation that require a way stronger system than they should

[u/Bob_The_Skull → u/all-the-right-moves]

That's fine, they just will either barely break even, or fail to get the sales they need and dissolve.

I hate to say it, but if you are an indie in 2026 and you aren't trying to make your game as playable in as many devices as possible, what are you doing?

[u/NinjaLion → u/JonesDahl]

yup. ive spent 25 years on this hobby, if it ends today because of this shit i will be sad but i will find a new one rather than watch it devolve into a pay-piggy subscription bananza. 25 years is a good run.

[u/imported → u/JonesDahl]

i doubt i would stop gaming, i just will not be playing new games. my backlog is huge and i have so many favs that need a replay.

[u/Goronmon → u/69ANIME69]

The way things are going, in a few years from now we'll be streaming all our games from services with outrageous subscription fees.

This wouldn't make sense. The "streaming" hardware is going to have the exact same issue that the 5090 is running into. It's more profitable to direct resources towards AI hardware.

It wouldn't make sense to move from less profitable consumer gaming hardware to less profitable game streaming hardware.

[u/Animegamingnerd → u/69ANIME69]

I honestly don't even think we are going that route, as even streaming services for games have kind of consistently fallen flat on their face time and time again.

I think what's more likely with consoles and PC parts are becoming more unaffordable espically with the next gen consoles and GPU. I think we are either looking at current gen with PS5 and to an extent Switch 2 being the baseline for a long time or even more studios going under, at least the ones dumb enough to ditch current gen hardware this decade.

[u/Jaggedmallard26 → u/JonesDahl]

shifted focus to cheap gains through AI that makes the game look like total ass

The more modern DLSS not set to an extremely aggressive performance mode looks great while also being one of the best anti-aliasing techniques, DLSS in pure anti-aliasing mode is easily the best at a far lower performance cost. The ones that suck are the older generations and software based ones. There are plenty of comparisons showing that the modern DLSS versions at balanced or above look pretty much identical to running natively with AA.

[u/ricktencity → u/JonesDahl]

I'd honestly be completely fine if GPU development stalled out if they just made them cheaper. Graphics have only been getting better by very tiny increments for a while now, I'd much rather be able to play things that look like they do these days with a card that costs a few hundred bucks than get an extra realistic shadow on horses nuts in rdr 3 or whatever

[u/JonesDahl → u/ricktencity]

we are far away from the peak of "graphic" fidelity. i put graphic in quotes because there are things outside of the common interpretation of the word. there are a lot of things we can improve on that would make a huge difference in the experience.

here are just some things of the top of my head

*actual cloth physics

*realistic fluid simulations 

*realistic physics simulation

*raytracing

*realistic simulations of bigger systems, such as having independent agents within a simulated world

*way higher frame rates

*VR improvements

[u/Sourpowerpete → u/JonesDahl]

If you ask me, outside of having a good frame rate, none of these strike me as important for the experience. These seem to be the kinds of things that are bloating development time and blowing the budgets for games way out of proportion.

[u/fatalgeck0 → u/CaptainGoldRum]

What is Orion?

[u/XXXandVII → u/fatalgeck0]

The next Cyberpunk game from CD Project Red.

[u/Maelstrom52 → u/CaptainGoldRum]

It might be a "modern" game by then. There's going to be a bunch of articles about how the cyborgs in Cyberpunk Orion are so different from real cyborgs.

[u/KingVape]

Yeah dawg I’m never buying a nice card ever again. If my shit ever breaks, I’ll play 2D games or something, or pick up another hobby.

I’m not paying $6k for fucking video games

[u/delicious_fanta → u/KingVape]

6k is just one piece. Then you have wildly overpriced memory, an overpriced cpu, wildly overpriced storage, etc. to buy too! Don’t worry, it will be way more than $6k.

[u/KingVape → u/delicious_fanta]

Don’t worry, I’ll just read more books instead

[u/somethin_brewin → u/delicious_fanta]

CPUs are actually pretty reasonable, but that's just because nobody is buying them because graphics cards, memory, and storage are all outrageous.

[u/ScreamSmart → u/somethin_brewin]

CPUs have also gone up. But since the memory types and graphic cards are astronomically high, nobody really is surprised by a small bump in cou prices.

[u/Drakeem1221 → u/KingVape]

Most people aren't. Even before the price increases how many people were aiming for 5090s?

[u/WetRacoon → u/KingVape]

You can literally play the latest games on cards that can be had at retail for like $3-400 lol…what are you even talking about.

[u/DeviantDragon → u/WetRacoon]

I'm not super plugged in, but what is the recommended card(s) nowadays for 1080p gaming? Is there new stuff out there at $300-400 or is it that older gen cards actually do the job just fine? I'm still on a 1080ti and I'm not entirely sure of my next upgrade path because for what I'm playing it seems to do the job decently still but I'm not someone who plays the newest games right at release. I'm definitely in patient-gamer territory.

[u/MiddleConscious5951 → u/DeviantDragon]

I think OP is talking out their ass because I don't see anything that is better than the performance class of your 1080ti for 300-400

hell all I found were cards that had the same vintage as your 1080ti

GPUs are just kind of absurd to try to buy right now. Everybody's yelling at each other over a 5090 being a "who cares" card but none of them are looking at the prices of the 4060, 5060 or AMD's 9070

What you're looking for is probably like a xx60ti card and those are around 500-600 right now. Also an absurd price for what should be midrange.

[u/WetRacoon → u/DeviantDragon]

A 5060 will rip through 1080p gaming. You could go for an even cheaper card but it’s not a bad idea to buy something that’ll last a few tears playing modern games at 1080p.

[u/DoorHingesKill → u/DeviantDragon]

People don't really buy new cards to game at 1080p; the uplift you get from playing on 1440p, even when upscaled, is just too big. Buying modern cards for 1080p puts you into this very weird entry-level segment where neither AMD nor Nvidia has particularly compelling products.

The best "mid-range" cards right now are probably the 5060Ti and the 9060 XT. Both of them have 8GB VRAM and a 16GB version indistinguishable by name, so just make sure you know which one you're looking at. Either way, they're definitely past the $300 range.

[u/wyattzx_]

This would make sense if the rumors of an RTX 5080 24GB are true.

It has irked me since the 30-series that the "XX90" has become the top-end of the gaming-focused cards. The price jumps disproportionately compared to the rest of the lineup (true of 30 and 40-series as well) for a larger VRAM buffer and... some performance uplift. Even if it can occasionally be as high as +50%, you're talking about realistically 2x in price at MSRP, let alone what the markets are doing now.

[u/Tranecarid → u/wyattzx_]

They decided to never make 1080ti mistake ever again.

[u/Palimon → u/Tranecarid]

I literally used it from release to the 5080 release... The best card ever made by a large margin.

[u/flesjewater → u/wyattzx_]

These used to be TITAN cards and make more sense in that framing. Or rather, slightly less nonsense because spending this much on a gaming GPU is simply ridiculous.

[u/swagpresident1337 → u/wyattzx_]

Yea the performance per $ was absolutely abysmal for the XX90 cards. But there were always enough rich nerds to buy them up.

[u/oCanadia → u/swagpresident1337]

Not at the prices they've been at lately though. Theyre just selling to people/businesses in the market for rtx pro cards at this point. Effectively already discontinued for us.

Gamers completely lost access to the already expensive 5090 quite a while ago when the price like tripled. :(

[u/PrintShinji → u/wyattzx_]

The XX90 titles should've just remained as Titan cards.

[u/Headless_Human → u/PrintShinji]

And what would that change?

[u/PrintShinji → u/Headless_Human]

Perception, which is pretty important when talking about products.

Take the 5070 and 5070 ti for example. You'd expect the 5070 ti to be slightly better than a 5070. While in reality the jump is about 20-30% in performance.

Used to be that the 50 class was a budget card, 60 was midrange, 70 was high spec and the 80 was basically top of the line, with the titan class being more akin to productivity cards. Nowadays people expect the 90 class to be the top of the line while its really more targeted towards being productivity cards.

[u/TheWhiteGuardian]

I thought I was silly for spending like £2000 on a 5090 at launch. Now it stands to be worth like treble the price, used. 💀

[u/Ardbert_The_Fallen → u/TheWhiteGuardian]

Reminds me of people who got in before the housing prices went up and up and up. Now you've got a great asset you could make money on. But then what? You still need a house / GPU, and you then have to buy out of that same crazy overpriced market.

[u/Random_eyes → u/Ardbert_The_Fallen]

As the market stands today, it would 100% be worth selling a used 5090 for $5k and replacing it with a 5080 if you're not using it for something that needs that power. Yeah, it's a downgrade in several departments, but it's still a beast of a card. 5090 is no compromises, 5080 is basically no compromises unless you're aiming for 4k native rendering at >100fps. It'll still be a great card in 5 years too (at the rate we're going, they might not even have the 7000 series cards out by then). 

[u/BastianHS → u/Ardbert_The_Fallen]

Sell 5090 for 6k and buy the new 24gb 5080 for 2k when it comes out

[u/zUkUu]

Who would have thought that the price I spent at release was retirement investment. lol

Glad I got my PC upgrade in just before everything went entirely to crap.

[u/bumdee → u/zUkUu]

Microsoft ending Win 10 support last year was really great timing

[u/CaptainUsopp → u/bumdee]

That and the threat of tariffs got me to upgrade right before shit hit the fan.

[u/zUkUu → u/bumdee]

Monster Hunter release apparently was a sign.

[u/OffTerror]

It really insane to me that individual consumers are competing with industrial operations. This is actually wild.

But on the other hand the gaming industry needs to adapt. The mindless graphics race needs to stop and be replaced with artistic style and optimization.

Right now I'm playing the new Hellraiser and it's running beautifully on my 2019 rig.

[u/The_MAZZTer → u/OffTerror]

I think it's more of a regulation problem.

If you have an industry that has catered to consumers and suddenly it pivots away from that, you're talking about a monopoly or collusion or something of the sort, and governments need to step in with regulation or other corrective measures, or figure out some ways to lower the barriers to entry of the industry so other companies can step up to fill the gap.

I don't see anything like that happening under the current US administration, of course.

[u/OffTerror → u/The_MAZZTer]

The problem with chip manufacturing is that it's so high tech and requires a global collaboration and complex supply chain. beyond it being a consumer issue it's also becoming a national security issue.

But yeah, regulation of tech is so abysmal and legislation can't keep up, not to mention the massive political influence of tech billionaires.

[u/crookedparadigm]

Man, I bought one last year before prices went crazy and now it's basically an investment/collector's item. I gotta take damn good care of this thing now. Honestly should probably add my PC to my home insurance policy. Sounds insane, but it would cost more to replace than almost every other appliance if there was some kind of disaster.

[u/jumpjumpdie → u/crookedparadigm]

I damaged my 4090 moving my computer and was luckily able to get it replaced with a 5090 through insurance… the value of the 4090 was 11,000 Aud. I bought it for around 3k when they came out.

[u/crookedparadigm → u/jumpjumpdie]

Good to hear a success story. That is my main concern since I bought my 5090 when it was still $3000, I'd be worried about insurance saying "that's what it worth" when it's going for $7000+ now.

Then again, I don't know if insurance companies in Australia are as evil as they are here in the States. Glad you got your replacement!

[u/BrotherEstapol → u/jumpjumpdie]

3k is insane, but 11k!? The Australia tax is surely an extra factor as we always get stung with higher prices as-is...

Good thing I'm happy with my 3070 and 2k monitor!

[u/jumpjumpdie → u/BrotherEstapol]

Yeh it was shocking when I checked. I was not expecting the 4090 to have actually gone up in value. Very strange stuff but completely makes sense with the ram shortages etc.

[u/BB-Zwei → u/crookedparadigm]

Anything of any significant value should be on your home insurance. 

[u/FunkMasterTex]

Gonna ride this 4080 till the wheels fall off. Im so so sooo glad I upgraded when I did. Its a bloodbath out there 😬

[u/MasterYI]

I don’t know if it’s just cause I don’t play super graphic intensive games, but I have a 3080 that still plays whatever I want at max settings with no issues, how much do these newer card matter if you had already bought a good card several years back?

[u/Coolman_Rosso → u/MasterYI]

Gaming tech discourse has been tainted by 4K and RT debates. If you're on 1080p or 1440p, it's kind of moot when far cheaper or older cards can still do their jobs well. 3080 is fine.

[u/Minttt → u/Coolman_Rosso]

I'm more and more convinced that all the comparison posts I see showcasing PT/RT and "legacy" lighting is just cope from people who need reassurance that the extra $1-2k premium they spent on their GPU was justified when all their friends are still using their old GPU's from 10 years ago without any complaints.

[u/Material_Dog6342 → u/MasterYI]

All depends on what you want to do. The 3080 is no slouch, just stick to 1080p/1440p and you'll have quite a few years left with it. DLSS will also be a big help down the line. I'd say you're in a great spot.

[u/AeroDbladE → u/MasterYI]

The 90 series of cards are basically the old Nvidia Titan cards rebranded, which were always overkill for gaming.

Unless you're doing hard core graphic rendering for your job, you'll never need anything beyond a 80 series card.

[u/Unlost_maniac → u/MasterYI]

Same dude, I ended up with a 3080ti and that thing is overkill. I won't need a new GPU for the next decade. Before then I was rocking an RX 580 8gb, such a beefy card for its price, I was keen on never replacing that until I absolutely had to but an old friend traded me their 3080ti cuz they didn't need it and figured I'd get better use out of it.

One of my closest friends still has an RX 580 8gb and he plays most games fine, only just recently had he started to struggle with some games but I almost guarantee its poor optimization in some games, that card can handle much better looking games than Dragons Dogma 2 yet that doesn't run very well on it.

[u/lava172 → u/MasterYI]

Hell I have a 2070 super and it runs every game I can think of at Ultra settings, if I have problems it’s a bottleneck elsewhere.

[u/AdSmall3663 → u/lava172]

Same. Then I see people talking about how their 3080 is outdated and they NEED to upgrade and I wonder wtf they’re doing

[u/hbkmog → u/MasterYI]

You answered your own question there. Either you don't play games that's demanding or you are playing at 1080p or 1440p? 3080 is definitely not enough if you want to play AAA games at 4k or high fps.

[u/makoblade → u/MasterYI]

It depends on if you have an obsession with chasing the latest and greatest, or know how to be happy with what you have on hand.

30 series cards are modern enough that they are solid for gaming. If you're not hung up about Path Tracing, AI-generated frames and all of the other convoluted shit shoved under the DLSS banner then you are fine without it.

A new card can run the same game smoother, at higher resolution, but at some point the amount of additional fun you get from that isn't worth the cost.

[u/ThatOneMartian]

The end of consumer hardware is in sight, all this decompilation will just accelerate it. You will rent compute from your overlords, if you can afford it.

[u/astromech_dj → u/ThatOneMartian]

That's how you destroy an industry. There's too many factors that will prevent ideal play conditions with shitty streaming gaming. I'd honestly just not bother and play old stuff or focus on my other hobbies.

[u/Don_Andy → u/astromech_dj]

I suppose at least we have about 50 years of gaming history to fall back on and the majority of it will run on hardware that is completely useless to the current industry.

[u/hyperforms9988 → u/Don_Andy]

This is my take on it. I just ended a game of Gauntlet from 2014. I've been bouncing in and out of games of Super Street Fighter 2 as well lately, as well as the remake of Resident Evil 4. Gaming isn't only current AAA. Not only do you have 50 years of gaming history, but new indie games release all the time that don't need that kind of hardware either. It's the same thing with movies... how can you sit there and be like "I will only watch brand new movies and nothing else" when you have 100+ years of movies just waiting to be watched?

[u/sleepingonmoon → u/astromech_dj]

To NVIDIA the gaming industry no longer matters. Won't surprise me if they just quit.

[u/Vlisa → u/sleepingonmoon]

I don't think they'll quit per se. I expect their future products will be stuff like RTX Spark, aimed at workstation consumers, which also happens to be good at running games. Unfortunately prices will keep these products out of most enthusiasts' hands for the foreseeable future.

[u/chairitable → u/sleepingonmoon]

Jensen Huang's been asked about this and he's very opposed to killing off consumer/gaming GPUs for historical reasons, but we'll see how that goes

[u/dsmx → u/chairitable]

For someone opposed to it he has a funny way of showing it.

[u/chairitable → u/dsmx]

CEOs of publicly traded companies are beholden to the board

[u/1CEninja → u/sleepingonmoon]

That would be a horrible risk. We're at a crossroads in AI where enough big names are basically saying "we need to slam the brakes or suffer the consequences".

I would be legitimately surprised if we aren't a year away from a rogue AI agent doing something materially harmful on a large scale that basically causes public panic and emergency policy that kneecaps AI. If Nvidia has abandoned gaming, their company will crumple overnight.

[u/TrumpsCummyOnahole → u/sleepingonmoon]

Man if Nvidia steps back I hope AMD steps the fuck up but I know they'll just disappoint

[u/SirSaltie → u/astromech_dj]

Thank god the system requirements on everything I play these days is so low.

Looks like I might just spend the rest of my life playing old/indie games.

[u/Vyragami → u/SirSaltie]

Tbh 99% of people they don't really need top of the line card anyway. Even playing AAA games you can simply turn off PT/RT and you'll be set for a while if you play in 1440/1080p.

It might stink to buy used 30/40 card for near their original msrp lmao, but it's not really the end. And you always have AMD, which seems to only raise price at slower rate and always cheaper.

[u/Fenixius → u/astromech_dj]

If the industry doesn't make money for rent-seeking financiers, the industrialists won't care. They'll just pivot to whatever other industry they can which is more profitable. 

Gaming will be a millennial hobby. The younger generations simply won't inherit it, except through Minecraft and Roblox.  

[u/StepComplete1 → u/ThatOneMartian]

This is one of those massively copy-pasted, NPC comments you see everywhere, yet has no bearing on basic reality.

They're not buying up all the hardware to rent it back to you. They're buying it for AI. It's not a conspiracy to take your gaming away from you, it's more that your wants are simply irrelevant to the market and you're being out-bidded. There's a difference.

[u/Double-Lobster6107 → u/StepComplete1]

Almost no one on Reddit understands basic economics. The depth of most Redditor's understanding is just parroting "capitalism bad" any time they don't get what they want.

[u/04__Revenge__01 → u/StepComplete1]

I honestly think you're comment will eventually transition to their comment. All these data centers buying up every single gpu and ram and what ever else they can get their hands on. Well then the AI bubble pops (hopefully) and now all these companies have to pivot to something else. We'll they already have this massive amount of computing power and selling the stuff off won't get them nearly enough back. They will probably try, for a time, to pivot to cloud computing and gaming. 

[u/dekenfrost → u/04__Revenge__01]

AI GPUs cannot be used for gaming.

Plus the GPUs are actually not getting put into Data Centers either they are sitting in warehouses.

Even if they could be used for gaming the power requirements for these cards are exactly the reason why they are unprofitable and they would be unprofitable for game streaming as well.

[u/wasdninja → u/ThatOneMartian]

all this decompilation will just accelerate it

There is an extremely minuscule amount of people doing any kind of decompilation. It's not even a rounding error. I'd guess searches for black cats outpace its computing needs by far.

[u/6198573 → u/ThatOneMartian]

ending consumer hardware would mean ending entreprise hardware too

i just don't see that happening any time soon

[u/yuusharo]

I’ve straight up given up on PC gaming. My Steam Deck and Switch 2 are all that’s going to get me through the next 5 years or so.

This is a me thing, but even if I could find components and GPUs at a fairly decent price, I’d still feel gross like I’m somehow contributing to these corporations enough to fuel their AI gold rush greed. The past year has sapped any enjoyment I once had building PCs since I was a kid, and like… I’m done. I can’t with this anymore.

[u/pie-oh → u/yuusharo]

Do you not consider the Steam Deck as PC Gaming? I know it's handheld, but I personally would.

I think for me the classification is if it has Windows on it.

[u/Legitimate-Ad-5969]

Not reportedly but rumored. Nvidia hasn't release any statement about stopping the production of 5090, it's all.just Reddit rumors

[u/lolwatokay → u/Legitimate-Ad-5969]

Even if it isn’t true, the 5090 has been priced such that no regular person has been buying it lately anyway

[u/Her3tic_UK → u/Legitimate-Ad-5969]

"No Tom, I'm just reporting it"

[u/Realsan]

I'm just gonna go buy a can of compressed air to take care of my 4080 super.

Gonna milk this baby longer than the 1080ti era.

[u/KumagawaUshio]

Gaming is not dead but clearly going into stasis till the AI bubble pops.

No more new graphics cards or game consoles.

It will be what's already been released and that is it for the next 2-3 years at the minimum.

Still at least when Nvidia comes hopefully crawling back they will have a huge war chest for new development.

[u/kdlt]

This means games will be more optimised in the future, right? Right?

[u/Davidsda → u/kdlt]

Games were never optimized around users having 5090s.

[u/GalexyPhoto → u/Davidsda]

It is funny how right you are on both ends, as plenty of games arent built for this level of power, but then also games with major issues cant really be solved by throwing a 5090 at it. Things like UE5 stutter and badly implemented frame pacing arent fixed with raw power.

So its gotta be fun to spend that much on a card and see most of the same issues as everyone else.

[u/Nirbin]

It's just a logical business decision, 5090s have long since moved away from consumers and are now just cannibalising their Blackwell market. It'll be interesting if 5080s go through something similar but the whole situation sucks for gaming.

[u/gamas]

If AMD were sensible, they'd realise that Nvidia has actually left the entire consumer GPU market open and proceed to flip their fortunes on their own consumer GPUs to grab that market. The 9070 XT is currently $400 cheaper than the 5070 Ti (9070 XT uses GDDR6 VRAM rather than GDDR7 which meant their chips are slightly less in demand), whilst offering comparable performance.

Of course though, this is AMD so what they will actually do is try to chase Nvidia in the AI space when they have no real hope of ever being competitive with them.

[u/6198573 → u/gamas]

If AMD were sensible, they'd realise that Nvidia has actually left the entire consumer GPU market open and proceed to flip their fortunes on their own consumer GPUs to grab that market.

I don't see how ending production of the 5090 means "leaving the entire consumer GPU market open"

that card was unattainable for most gaming consumers either way

[u/gamas → u/6198573]

that card was unattainable for most gaming consumers either way

Have you seen current prices of the rest of their lineup? Only the 5060 is in a reasonable range.

[u/johnniebalkany → u/gamas]

If AMD were sensible they'd go all in the AI craze the same as Nvidia.

Both those companies exist for profit making.

[u/Jaggedmallard26 → u/johnniebalkany]

All of the software tooling is designed for Nvidia cards and Nvidia's tech for AI workloads is far in advance of AMDs.

[u/gamas → u/johnniebalkany]

Yes and no, there is business sense in not putting all your eggs in one basket. Especially when your competitor has a monopoly on one particular kind of basket.

[u/mikail511 → u/gamas]

One’s a teaspoon, the other is a very large basket

[u/--THRILLHO-- → u/gamas]

But what do you actually want them to do? You've just said they're offering a decent card at a decent price. So they need to...do what they're doing?

[u/gamas → u/--THRILLHO--]

Actually push FSR tech as the primary gaming upscaling solution. At the moment AMD invest nothing into actually getting their tech stack out there which means we have a situation where 1000s of games have DLSS4 whilst FSR4 is only on like a few hundred.

Since they released their equivalent to Ray Reconstruction in December, there have been literally 9 games with Ray Regeneration support.

[u/kikimaru024 → u/gamas]

AMD exists to make a profit.

They won't lower the prices of their consumer GPUs when faced with rising costs on their own end.

[u/gamas → u/kikimaru024]

At the moment they don't need to. You can get a 9070 XT for $600-$700 whilst the 5070 Ti is going for $1400.

[u/Wistfall]

I got a 5090 in a prebuilt for 4k this year before tax. Even then people thought the market was a little fucked. I just hope that they still have accessible high end cards in future gens so in seven years I can get a good replacement

[u/Coolman_Rosso]

NVIDIA's price-to-performance is completely out of whack. I get that "Reddit always hawks AMD" is a meme of sorts, but at this point it's not even funny. Other than the RTX 5050, 5060, and arguably 5060 ti 8GB (which are merely "overpriced") all other 5000 series cards are too expensive to justify unless you absolutely need the best possible performance. The 5060 ti 16GB and 5070 are highway robbery, the 5070 ti and 5080 are extortion, and the 5090 is unobtainium.

Honorable mention goes to the RTX 3060, whose price tag rivals that of the much faster RTX 5060, but was only brought back as an option for those who need the VRAM for local AI models rather than a gaming play.

[u/-Cyy]

I'm not sure how these work specifically. Is there a limit for VRAM necessity in games? Once a massive open world game can use 4k textures for everything, then what?

[u/invidious-squid → u/-Cyy]

Ray tracing adds a lot of VRAM overhead, although AMD have just announced some big optimizations in that aspect.

[u/HammeredWharf → u/-Cyy]

Then you lower the texture quality settings a bit and it'll probably be nearly unnoticeable in gameplay.

[u/Alyanove → u/HammeredWharf]

Except ray tracing bvh's bloat vram like nothing else 

[u/synkronize]

I shoulda spent the extra money and get the 5090 when I had the chance. I got a 5080 but last December the 5090 was what 1k more I think?

[u/Khalku]

There's just nothing that needs a 5090 right now. It was priced out of most peoples budget and served virtually no purpose. At that point people spending heavily on gpus are doing it for AI and you tend to buy something more specialized for those instructions.

[u/hexcodehero]

Jesus why is the 5080 SO much cheaper?

[u/Rethious]

Either production increases or the bubble bursts, but prices will come down the eventually. The only reason they haven’t is because ai demand has been increasing faster than they anticipated. It’s not like they don’t want to have enough cards to sell to all their customers.