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This is just wild. PlayStation wanted to end their partnership with Hideo Kojima. So Xbox was like: "Your loss."

This year is really starting to feel like an inverse of 2014 when Xbox ruined their public image with some insane Always Online DRM requirements and PlayStation capitalized on that.

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u/SterileProphet Sep 10 '26

Sony is speed running losing all the good will they built during the PS4 era.

It’s such a shame

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u/theinfernumflame Sep 10 '26

They clearly think they're too big to fail, and it's up to consumers to show them otherwise.

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u/Andromeda-OC Sep 10 '26

Granted, Microsoft and Xbox are almost equally shit at the moment. It’s a real would you rather get slapped in the face or kicked in the nuts type situation. PC is definitely the favored platform but building one has unfortunately ballooned a lot in price.

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u/OokamiTheRonin Sep 10 '26

"Ballooned a lot in price" is the understatement of the decade. lol

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u/Chaotic_Genobreaker Sep 10 '26

More like uhhhh blimped a lot in price.

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u/SplendidEmber Sep 10 '26

Zeppelin-ed, if you will

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u/Antricluc Sep 10 '26

I like it. Ballooned then blew and burned

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u/Hayyner Sep 10 '26

Some components are literally 3x as expensive as they were just a year ago, it is absolutely insane. I'm glad I got my build when I did 😪

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u/Maximum-Objective-39 Sep 10 '26

The good thing about PC is that there's a huge performance range available in the form of both past and present games so that there's potentially something at most price ranges that can tide you through these tough times.

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u/Trashypass Sep 10 '26

Also it can make someone look at what they really want to play. I couldn't really care about the next open world AAA game. They don't move me. But some weird pixel art or B rate boomer shooter. Ya il play it. And that means I don't really need top specs. Mid lvl parts will get be a good 8 years. 

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u/BioExtract Sep 10 '26

Yup my gtx 1070 loves old games

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u/Redd_is_compromised Sep 10 '26

Just please don't review bomb companies if a title doesn't run well on your card.

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u/theinfernumflame Sep 10 '26

That's what I did. Original plan was to have a PC that could play my favorite old games. I did make a few upgrades since then so I get decent performance on newer games, but it's definitely not a high-end setup. Mostly I'm playing games that are 10-15 years old.

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u/theinfernumflame Sep 10 '26

For sure. I'm very glad I built my PC a few years ago before prices got insane.

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u/FinalOdyssey Sep 10 '26

I think saying "almost equally" is really disregarding a lot of the great things about the Xbox ecosystem as opposed to what Sony is doing. Options for digitizing your physical disks so discless/PC systems can play them, free PC versions of games with Play Anywhere, they managed to secure Kojima for the next (at least) ten years, they're moving back into exclusivity as the majority of players were calling for to make their platform more enticing. There's still a lot of unknowns and some of the decisions are questionable but I think it's fair to give credit and not pull them down with this absolute farce that is Sony right now.

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u/themostreasonableman Sep 10 '26

Sony has always been like this. Always. They're somehow still around, because occasionally they do revolutionary shit and release truly halo products.

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u/Havictos Sep 10 '26

It happens every. single. time. They think they're king of the hill and then they trip over their own dick because they thought they could get away with whatever. 

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u/bzngabazooka Sep 10 '26

It happens with Sony. They get cocky, they fumble hard and then they try to catch up on the next system. It’s like the PS3 era but 20X more impact on their terrible decision making skills right now.

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u/HotDogShawarma Sep 10 '26

They are banking on GTA 6 being the thing that makes them money by effectively advertising PlayStation as THE place to play GTA VI. Why bother wasting money somewhere else when the biggest game in the world is going to bring players to you anyway?

(I hate this fwiw)

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u/SpenzoTM Sep 10 '26

Idk about the xbox community but the issue is also a lot of PlayStation fans are fucking spineless, wasn’t there supposed to be a black out boycott some people were organizing? Even that some people wanted it delayed for the MW4 beta. I hate to say this but part of me hopes the ps6 flops

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u/yakityyakblahtemp Sep 10 '26

MS and Sony are cursed to pass the idiot ball back and forth forever.

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u/SplendidEmber Sep 10 '26

They're passing it back and forth like it's a game of hot potato rn

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u/Stuck_in_Arizona Sep 10 '26

They're banking on FOMO PS5 Pro and GTA6 hype to keep them afloat short term.

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u/xTheRedDeath Sep 10 '26

They've always been really anti-consumer, but they choose the worst possible times to flex that fact.

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u/Pen_dragons_pizza Sep 10 '26

I think it’s more to do with money, the live service stuff has been a disaster with no return on either the horizon one or the sci fi one that was dead after like a week, death stranding 2 also had lower than expected sales.

Microsoft has all that cash to develop projects on the other hand.

Then again it has shown twice now, that as soon as Sony becomes comfortable on top, they fuck it up.

Happened with the ps3 and now the ps5.

This is why competition is good and exactly why everyone should stop wishing for Xbox to die.

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u/LoSouLibra Sep 10 '26

Didn't a lot of you guys trash Death Stranding during the PS4 era, call it a walking sim and call Kojima a hack that burned through money and needed Konami to keep him in check?

Or is he good now that he's with Microsoft kinda like how Death Stranding started becoming a good game once it was ported to PC and then Xbox?

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u/Whoopsinator Sep 10 '26

This seems like a Goomba Fallacy

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u/LoSouLibra Sep 10 '26

"a lot of you guys" =/= "all of you guys"

It would be a goomba fallacy if it wasn't absolutely guaranteed that the people who disingenuously trashed Death Stranding and Kojima for brand / platform war reasons won't exhibit clear hypocrisy when they celebrate and weaponize this.

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u/ImperitorEst Sep 10 '26

If you ask the internet you'll get a lot of people telling you the earth is flat or stale piss cures cancer. Seeing some people say a thing on the internet has absolutely zero relevance to what the general consensus is.

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u/LoSouLibra Sep 10 '26

The existence of hypocrites doesn't require everyone to be a hypocrite.

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u/Dont_have_a_panda Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

I dont hate death stranding but you're talking as if Death stranding is the ONLY Kojima game or he can ONLY make death stranding for the rest of his career

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u/2jesse1996 Sep 10 '26

He's made 2 games in 11 years and is currently 63 years old. I know he's the type to never retire but at that output pace you're looking at maybe 4 more games before he does actually retire.

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u/DMarquesPT Sep 10 '26

Tbf he also had to start, setup and hire a whole new studio in that time. DS1 coming out in 3 years was super impressive.

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u/LoSouLibra Sep 10 '26

I love Death Stranding. The point is the hypocrisy that will come out of this.

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u/Trendydwarf13 Sep 10 '26

Err, you think the people who trashed kojima nearly 7 years ago are going to be the same people looking forward to his game now, it's a big sub Reddit with a lot of people, plenty of room for both haters and enjoyers of his games

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u/Boogie-Down Sep 10 '26

They know Xbox absolutely so fucked up everything since forcing the Kinect back with the One they can do whatever they want now.

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u/Djonso Sep 10 '26

Reminds me of ps3 release. They were so succesfull after ps2 that they thought they can do whatever. Took the whole generation to come back from that fumble

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u/Balc0ra Sep 10 '26

Same thing happened after riding high after the PS2 era. They got cocky, and ruined everything

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u/suffywuffy Sep 10 '26

All they had to do was keep sailing steadily on making their massive amount of money and they would have have continued crushing. Instead they seem intent on making every bad decision possible in order to squeeze out a few extra percentage points of profit short term.

Tin foil hat would say this is intentional to help Xbox out as competition is actually healthy. But of course it’s not, it’s just greed.

Read a funny study for work the other day about Ford quality control. They fired something like 7000 people back in the late 20 teens to save money/ increase profits. Build quality obviously tanked, over the next few years the retroactive repairs and lawsuits cost them more than they saved by firing those people. The next ceo went on a massive restructure to get more people back into those QC roles. You can’t make this shit up how global “elite” companies operate because they are run by a “business” graduate who buried their head in figures and nothing else.

Same thing with Boeing. Went from “the” plane you imagined when you thought about international travel to a literal meme about them being deathtraps all because they replaced their upper management which was engineer based, with business degree upper management.

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u/TallanoGoldDigger Sep 10 '26

They have the superior catalog and superior console unfortunately

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u/StewIsBased Sep 10 '26

All the good will they've built since the revamp of the ps3! There's an entirely different leadership structure in Sony now and it feels it

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u/aJetg Sep 10 '26

Sony lost Persona, Final Fantasy AND Kojima exclusivity in one generation, LMAO

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u/CapturedLore34 Sep 11 '26

Agreed, I have owned a PS2, PS4, and a PS5. When the next gen consoles come out I’m getting the Xbox without hesitation

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u/Traditional_Bike8880 Sep 12 '26

All the good will they’ve built up since PS1 if we’re being real. Tons of day 1 PlayStation ride-or-dies have said they’re jumping ship and not getting a PS6. That’s even worse than losing the PS4 era good-will.

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u/punyweakling Sep 10 '26

Sony is speed running losing all the good will they built during the PS4 era.

Warm take: They actually started at the start of the PS5 gen, people just weren't paying attention.

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u/PyrocXerus Sep 10 '26

PlayStation got comfy being the big dog of the consoles and though they were untouchable

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u/Internal_Swing_2743 Sep 10 '26

Thing is, Sony apparently walked away, not Kojima. So what the hell is going on?

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u/Fat_Alphonse Sep 10 '26

The project was getting expensive and Death Stranding 2 underperformed so Sony backed out before this sinking anymore money they wouldn't get back. At least that's my guess

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u/Burstrampage Sep 10 '26

To be more specific, DS2 “underperformed” in the context of not hitting the sales targets Sony wanted. I have no doubt in my mind death stranding 2 made a profit, maybe even one considered good by many of us, just not in sonys eyes because they are stupid

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u/EvocativeReach Sep 10 '26

I mean did you see Ds2? Hollywood cast, expensive motion capture, hollywood level cutscenes.

I cant be convinced 2 million sales is anywhere near paying for that. I also dont think they would bin Kojima as long as his financials were at least very slightly green. He was likely deep in the red with them.

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u/cochese25 Sep 10 '26

Insofar as I'm aware, Sony hasn't really published the sales figures for the game, but best data shows that DS2 surpassed 2 million sales on the back of the PC port's 425,000 sale in its first week.
And that was back in March. It's had over 5 months since then to sell and insofar as I can tell, nobody has put out any numbers of how many it's sold. The only thing I could find was that the PC port's release had a positive effect on the sales of the PS5 version, increasing them week over week.

You got an up to day number on that?
Also, those same reports that tout 2 million in sales back then, also were saying the game reached parity with production costs and such. So you don't need to be convinced if that's what the facts are. Unless you're just going to cherry pick which numbers you want to believe from the people putting the numbers out.

That has nothing to do with Sony's decision, mind you. It could be they weren't satisfied with the sales or it could be that they've been burned over and over by big studio games and wanted to cut off before they ended up with another Marathon situation.

I don't really care either way. I didn't play either game, not really a fan of the MGS series and don't hold Kojima to any particularly high regard. But I don't particularly like numbers flying around that lack substantial backing for them that are also months out of date

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u/RandomCatgif Sep 10 '26

You guys seriously overvalue the costs of motion capture. It is the CHEAP option, not animating everything by hand to the same quality

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u/SloppityMcFloppity Sep 10 '26

Yeah, but kojima was out here using A Listers for motion capture.

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u/Fat_Alphonse Sep 10 '26

Idk, only 2 million sales. Between production costs for the physical version, Steam/retail cuts, games bought on sale... It'd be optimistic to say the game made $100 million and plenty AAA games have a higher budgets than that.

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u/Advanced_Gold1290 Sep 10 '26

Not to mention some of the PHYSINT rumors involve some pretty big actors, along with a partnership with Columbia Pictures for live action material.

I'm sure a current gen MGS successor would print money, but it is going to be a really fucking expensive project.

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u/Clean_Cobbler_3438 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

A current gen MGS successor wouldn't print money.

Current gen MGS would.

Kojimbo's "audience" such as it is likes MGS. DS2 losing money is pretty much all the evidence we need to say that people don't really like Kojima's games, they liked Metal Gear Solid.

Sony saw the writing on the wall after DS2 lost money and bailed, simple as.

ETA for the mouth breathers downvoting- MGS∆ sold as much as DS2 did in a much shorter timeframe and with a much smaller budget. It's not fucking rocket science.

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u/Kylel0519 Sep 10 '26

I mean DS2 was also a console exclusive until literally 6 months ago and console exclusivities sequels usually don’t preform well all the time, I mean ace combat 3 almost sunk the entire franchise

Not to say being exclusive is the ONLY reason it underperformed in sales was because it was an exclusive just that it doesn’t help

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u/Clean_Cobbler_3438 Sep 10 '26

Right, except the 1st game sold more in its exclusivity window, and more copies on console generally. Problem is, it's not a great game, and people were on the "fool me once" mentality by then.

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u/Sorry_Mastodon_8177 Sep 10 '26

There also the thing of people not knowing what the first game is like and a lot of people bought the game out of curiosity In the sequel only the people who liked the first game bought it Same thing happened with the division 1 and 2

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u/dope_like Sep 10 '26

Konami fired Kojima for going far over budget and timeline. And the production value of DS2 was very high. I’m not defending Sony but Kojima has a history of breaking budgets

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u/seiryu1982 Sep 10 '26

Glad Sony backed out before releasing Concord /s

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u/Fat_Alphonse Sep 10 '26

I know right? Physint will clearly bomb even worse

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u/Dry_Literature8018 Sep 10 '26

Stupid time to worry about that after sinking what must be at least a billion dollars into their failed live service venture, only to receive practically no return (hell, a majority of those projects won't even release). At least Death Stranding still has the possibility to sell a few copies going forward, unlike these other complete follies (and that's not even mentioning the Bungie acquisition, which was a total waste). Why, when Sony's been lighting money on fire to chase a stupid trend, do they draw the line at a highly respected industry auteur and an award winning Hollywood director collabing in a very popular genre?

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u/idkimhereforthememes Sep 10 '26

As much as people are making a massive deal out of this, kojima games don't sell shit. DS2 sold like 2m copies after going to steam with a much bigger budget than games like astrobot or yotei, both of those games sold like 5m copies each as console exclusives

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u/EvocativeReach Sep 10 '26

At only 2 million sales theres no way DS1 made a profit. At 5 million sales I’m skeptical whether DS 1 made a profit either, and if it did it was very small. Kojima games have Hollywood budgets and their playerbase was going in the wrong direction.

I guess Sony decided to call it time. Meanwhile a Kojima game is a golden chalice to Xbox who have been dogged with having no games for basically a decade now if not over.

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u/Grayman103 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

Kojima doing the usual at getting in high places of power within good graces then immediately making insanely over-budgeted games and getting chased off for it.

No one ever actually explains why P.T got canned and got him fired at Konami. Imagine getting off the phone that Kojima once again wants more money for MGS 5 that’s already 80 million in budget (fucking insane for a game at the time, especially a Japanese game) then immediately getting another call that not only has he started a silent hill project without permission. He already got a lot of expensive set up. Junji Ito as an artist at his peak of popularity. And already put a demo out before any of the higher ups even caught on.

Dude is legit a jackass. If this is the Jordan Peele game i wouldn’t be surprised if they gave him a blank check and regretted it.

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u/ChasingVelka Sep 10 '26

Does just feel like the same cycle first it was Nintendo refusing to move to CDs because they'd been undisputed for so long then Playstation was riding high until they stopped backwards compatibility then Xbox was on high for a little until the Wii came along then Nintendo kind of peaced out after the Wii U undersold and both Xbox and Sony were hot potating good and bad decisions ever since. What once was King of the Hill for a console generation now shifts entirely based on weekly announcements from either companies. And I am pretty sure most people are tired of the concept of Console Wars in general. So it's more like: Alright who dug their grave even deeper this week compared to last? No hill to be king of anymore, only an ever deepening trench.

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u/WutsAWriter Sep 10 '26

Is this gonna be an every third console thing for them?

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u/Mike4302 Sep 10 '26

Acting like Microsoft isnt worse. How many studios have closed or nearly been closed bc of xbox again?

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u/lostmyacc2 Sep 10 '26

Nobody said Microsoft is good. The original comment just mentions how comfortable PlayStation was that their competitor swoop in to capitalise on their mistake. Thats it

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u/MrBlueA Sep 10 '26

Most of the studios under Microsoft sealed their own fate by making trash games themselves, no one forced them.

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u/Icy-Guarantee6994 Sep 10 '26

All we had to do was publish the damn games, CJ!

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u/WutsAWriter Sep 10 '26

Oh good. One stumbling, blind giant dropped something and the second stumbling, blind giant picked it up.

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u/huge_jeans710 Sep 10 '26

Hands down the best way to explain this situation.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Sep 10 '26

It’s so interesting to me that people who haven’t seen a game and literally know nothing about it have already decided it’s a work of art masterpiece that Sony is stupid for ditching.

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u/A_Guy_in_Orange Sep 10 '26

I mean Death Stranding showed that no matter what slop Kojima puts out plenty of people are gonna call it art and more power to them if they had fun with it

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u/DMarquesPT Sep 10 '26

Now I’m decidedly a Kojima fanboy, his games were some of the first to show me what video games could be as a storytelling medium, MGS and Death Stranding are some of my favorite games ever. If KojiPro puts a game out, I’m getting it.

This means I’ll have to go over to PC to play Kojima’s next games, and combined with the rest of Sony’s fumbles it means I may stay there for good

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u/AshyLarry25 Sep 10 '26

Concord? ✅

Marathon? ✅

Physint? ❌

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u/AdamBlaster007 Sep 10 '26

Marathon is likely going to be Bungie's death knell.

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u/GirthStone86 Sep 10 '26

XBOX IS WHAT PLAYSTATION PHYSINT

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u/NoobGame01 Sep 10 '26

Live service push, no disc's, now Kojima split? Wth sony doing?

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u/New-Two-1349 Sep 10 '26

And don't forget that terrible State Of Play the other day.

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u/TheCutieCircle Sep 10 '26

What does a bunch of 3rd party game reveals have to do with Sony?

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u/SNTCTN Sep 10 '26

Sony holds a special presentation just to announce a bunch of 3rd party games that have nothing to do with Sony?

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u/Shiro2602 Sep 10 '26

There were a bunch of Japanese games there tho like Fate/Extra Remake, Monster Hunter Wilds Ascendance, Gundam Rogue Orbit, 2 Final Fantasy Games, Rhapsody in Scarlet

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u/seiryu1982 Sep 10 '26

It precisely reveals that Sony doesn't have anything interesting to show from its first party studios in an event called "State of Play".

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u/Kimihro Sep 10 '26

Fulfilling Hiroshi Yamauchi's dying wish to rot Playstation from the inside out, facilitating a slow and painful and extremely visible death

or something idk

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u/BeanserSoyze Sep 10 '26

If Xbox hadn't come out with their insanely bad streaming limits announcement this would be a devastating one sided month for Sony

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u/DetOlivaw Sep 10 '26

Kojima is costing them a lot of money and Sony wants money

Meanwhile Microsoft is willing to leap on this just to have literally anything at the moment, plus after all those fucking layoffs they’ve got cash and budget to burn

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u/Shell_fly Sep 10 '26

I think it’s likely that death stranding 2, as absolutely brilliant as it was, cost more money than desired and sold less than desired. Kojima famously goes over budget (it shows in the quality of his games). From an artistic standpoint this sucks but from a business standpoint it makes total sense.

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u/Grayman103 Sep 10 '26

Artistic means fuck all when he blows 200 mil to hire his favorite celebrities to cameo his walking simulator. TWICE. The man is a financial blackhole.

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u/Skyler_The_Player Sep 10 '26

How many people will Microsoft fire this time

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u/Lordpicklenip Sep 10 '26

Xbox fired 1000s people in July to afford Kojima’s celebrity feet scanning bill.

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u/AssaultMonkey150 Sep 10 '26

I mean it’s stupid but also we won’t be playing this game for a decade so let’s not overreact

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u/AlusiveTripod Sep 10 '26

OD is still in development and I doubt we'll actually be playing it yet

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u/Garok94 Sep 10 '26

Rumours says that Sonny told Kojima that he has to rename PHYSint to DIGITALint and that was the reason to this platform change...

Sorry for that dad joke.

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u/thirdeyeboobed Sep 10 '26

What the fuck is Sony's problem

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u/BlackKnighting20 Sep 10 '26

Not losing money, Death Stranding 2 was money lose.

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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray Sep 10 '26

So Xbox….fired thousands of people…just to spend a ton of money in a partnership with Kojima? Who demands AAA budget + Hollywood stars?

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u/AlusiveTripod Sep 10 '26

From Xbox perspective it's a power move, they know alot of people don't really remember layoffs unless they kill the whole studio with it, another thing is right now Sony is making alot of controversial decisions that are unpopular within their players so Xbox sees this as an opportunity to claw back popularity by one uping PlayStation where they can. As of now PlayStation is most likely going to make more unpopular decisions before the year ends that makes me wonder how on Earth are Hideaki Nishino and Herman Hulst on their run as CEOs making Jim Ryan's cursed time as PlayStation's CEO look like heaven

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u/mister_schulz Sep 10 '26

Great power move that doesn’t interest anyone outside of the very hardcore fans lmao
His games aren’t selling well enough so his name really doesn’t have the pull to justify calling this a power move

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u/AcademicNorth7456 Sep 10 '26

Isn’t Kojima using Sonys Decima engine for everything?

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u/jhguitarfreak Sep 10 '26

Guerrilla Games owns it full stop.
They licensed it to Kojima Productions themselves.

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u/matiko92 Sep 10 '26

Whats that physint stuff and whats goin on here?

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u/Leather-Entry93 Sep 10 '26

It was a PlayStation exclusive game that’s supposedly similar to MGS being made by KojiPro that was on the verge of being cancelled and got saved by Xbox

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u/matiko92 Sep 10 '26

Thanks for the input :)

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u/Falcon3333 Sep 10 '26

Sony were always like this, they're a cutthroat Japanese multi conglomerate, competition was the only thing kind of regining them in.

Now they're just not afraid to show their true colors to maximize quarterly profits.

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u/ShadowSpawn__ Sep 10 '26

It isn't like 2014 at all, Xbox has made plenty of fuck ups of their own and have been unable to capitalize on Playstations many L's

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u/ZukasV1 Sep 10 '26

Play has its limits

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u/chiron_42 Sep 10 '26

Greed, however, has no limits.

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u/sdr79 Sep 10 '26

Don’t get me wrong - I’m rooting for Xbox to turn this ship around and crush, but their record has also been pretty bad lately. Fingers crossed.

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u/FatherShambles Sep 10 '26

Hideos agent working overtime

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u/WxaithBrynger Sep 10 '26

They have lost their damn minds. Kojima WAS Playstation for so damn long because of Metal Gear. Kojima is doing a new stealth game and you let him WALK? AFTER DEATH STRANDING????

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u/pluck-the-bunny Sep 10 '26

Death stranding was all walking

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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo Sep 10 '26

Lol this is such a nice joke

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u/mcslender97 Sep 10 '26

I loved the 2nd one but seems like it fell short of expectations

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u/The_Border_Bandit Sep 10 '26

Death Stranding games didn't perform well though. DS1 barely hit around 10 mil sales after 7 years, and DS2 crawled it's way to 2 mil sales this year. Those sale numbers plus the insane budgets that Kojima demands really aren't a good look and probably the reason Sony walked away. Sony probably saw no reason on dumping money onto Kojima and his game that's several years away, when they can just dump that same amount into multiple first party projects that'll all outperform a Kojima title. Astro Bot and Yotei both have double the sales of DS2 while being 1/5 of the budget each.

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u/BlackKnighting20 Sep 10 '26

Death Stranding 2 sold 2 million, it ain’t good.

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u/stash0606 Sep 10 '26

Generation of fumbles from both parties.

Didn't XBox just close down a whole bunch of first party studios?

And now Playstation's like "hold on, I can fuck up too" with the discless bs and now losing Kojima.

Capitalism kills everything.

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u/ArgonianMagician Sep 10 '26

Xbox utterly gutted id Software to a point where it's just a skeleton crew now. Destroying a studio that created legendary video games and their spectacular idTech Engine, an engine that's practically magic with how it works is utterly criminal; a crime against human culture and talent.

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u/Brigon Sep 10 '26

ID also said the studio is about the same size it was then they made Doom (2016)

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u/podgladacz00 Sep 10 '26

Private equity + stock market. This is why Steam is not public traded company as Gaben said. It would give nothing but headaches and slow down the process.

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u/strife696 Sep 10 '26

Yo i dont wanna be that guy but capitalism made the systems in the first place.

It wasnt like the PSX was made by card carrying socialists.

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u/Critical-Lettuce3953 Sep 10 '26

This logic misunderstands artists, is deeply insulting, and is capitalistic propaganda. People would get things done without capitalism. In fact, capitalism is what often stops things from being done. Actual normal people do not care about profit.

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u/stash0606 Sep 10 '26

My problem with capitalism is the insane need for constant growth. The problem of finite resources is real and idk when capitalism will understand this. AI is one such byproduct: we were absolutely fine with AI assistants on our phones; who asked for full on AI programs and now the development of AGI? Like learn to put a cork in it and be satisfied for once.

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u/nsheehan28 Sep 10 '26

The problem isn't capitalism necessarily, its how publicly traded companies have a legal obligation to consistently increase profits. Not maintain profits, increase them.

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u/Dreamo84 Sep 10 '26

Yeah but Xbox closed a bunch of studios who were making games nobody wanted.

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u/Dogesneakers Sep 10 '26

I think I’ll skip the ps6. I’m not liking where they’re going with this

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u/britipinojeff Sep 10 '26

But like why though?

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u/neroslayer Sep 10 '26

Because DS2 was a huge failure, selling 25% of DS1 while costing more.

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u/neroslayer Sep 10 '26

Idk why he don't fund his own games. After DS1 did so well regardless if it was ell liked or not. He should have invested that money and try to fund his own game. His ideas and spending is way to grand for an exclusive game. His games need to be multiplat for it to have a chance of doing well.

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u/Excellent_Regret4141 Sep 10 '26

Just another stupid decision by Sony & whatever ex Xbox executive is behind it 😉

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u/Toppest_Dom Sep 10 '26

What's Physint

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u/Aromatic_Assist_3825 Sep 10 '26

The spiritual successor to Metal Gear Solid

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u/TheLimeyLemmon Sep 10 '26

Can Sony stop blowing their dick off with a pistol for five minutes?

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u/EvocativeReach Sep 10 '26

I know they lost a LOT of money on DS2, and the financials on DS1 were paperthin, but somehow I always thought if anyone could survive the shareholders hand wringing it was Kojima.

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u/Massive-Emphasis3064 Sep 10 '26

Maybe I’m just dumb but wouldn’t both companies make more money if they just stopped with the dumb shit? Sony would sell a lot more 1st party games and 3rd party for teams they’re invested in if they just allowed cross platform. I mean at this point the majority of people who want a PlayStation have one. I want to play the new wolverine but I’m not buying a whole console for it. If it were on PC I’d buy it the day it drops. Same with a lot of PlayStation exclusives but there will never be enough PS exclusives to make me want to buy one, I’m sure there are a lot of others in the same boat.

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u/robbobert01 Sep 10 '26

What the actual fuck is Sony doing? I'm baffled. I don't understand how anyone can make the 100% wrong decision with such precision so many times in a row in such quick succession. I'm stunned. Like, you wouldn't make decisions this terrible even if you were intentionally trying to tank your brand. How is this the path forward for their business? What in the absolute world are they doing?

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u/idkwc Sep 10 '26

I gotta be honest, i don’t think kojima is that good these days

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u/OmenDamien Sep 10 '26

Okay, but game will be a multiplatform?

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u/laserblades Sep 10 '26

 Not to sound totally ignorant here but doesn't that mean it will just say a Microsoft game at the top when I'm eventually playing this game on my ps. Not like all Kojimas games end up on both systems despite being produced by Sony?

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u/BlueberryNo6811 Sep 10 '26

Playstation speedrun bankrupt any%

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u/CurryMVPGOAT30 Sep 10 '26

Death Standing 2 didn't hit great numbers, was expensive and a very niche game. If he was doubling down on that with this title I don't really question the decision that much.

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u/BasicRedditBoy Sep 10 '26

Not a big deal, smart move. Kojima is one of the most overrated developers im gaming but people continue to glaze him hard!

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u/Okayest_By_Far Sep 10 '26

I hope this is a step toward Death Stranding 2 on Xbox.

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u/Lost-Produce-1150 Sep 10 '26

Did Phil go to Sony? Like wtf happened. They think the bump from GTA 6 means they're invincible. We're at early days PS3-level sony arrogance now and this time they can't rely on simply cutting console price to win people back.

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u/RaisinWorried3528 Sep 10 '26

Unfortunately if Xbox wants to make any money on this game they will have to port it eventually to PS5 and PC😂😂😂😂😂

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u/nobix Sep 10 '26

Yeah this doesn't read like sony dropping Kojima but more like Kojima got an offer Sony couldn't match.

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u/averageuhbear Sep 10 '26

Sony is really going this whole gen with Housemarque, Astrobot and Helldivers 2 being the only real hits that beat original expectations.

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u/ThrowMoneyEverywhere Sep 11 '26

something about me is filled with happiness seeing xbox make all these good decisions, if their next console has personality and some nice exclusives maybe i’ll choose it over PS6

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u/CrAkKedOuT Sep 11 '26

I'd love the ot hear the reasoning behind the decision instead of hopping on the "PlayStation killing themselves" train.

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u/RigatoniPasta Sep 10 '26

What happened to PlayStation? I mean, I get being cocky after winning the console wars, but I don’t understand why they keeping doubling down on these idiotic decisions.

Read the room guys. It’s not hard to backtrack these choices. Good luck getting Kojima back though

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u/Natural-Associate106 Sep 10 '26

99% don't care. Physical is a minority and death stranding is extremely niche

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u/Lucky_Chaarmss Sep 10 '26

He wanted to release a physical disc, didn't he?

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u/Snowvilliers7 Sep 10 '26

If the game ends up releasing by 2028, chances are Xbox wont make it physical either cuz it feels like they too are going fully digital for next gen because of the disc to digital feature

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u/BangkokPadang Sep 10 '26

I wish so bad that for Xbox instead of "A Kojima Game' it had changd to be "A Kojima Joint"

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u/firedrakes Sep 10 '26

bot be spam this over 300 times across reddit and growing. 1 ps sub alone was spam 15 times with a 3 min apart posting of same 2 things ign or this image.

this is like i think 3 or 4th i seen here.

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u/Silent_Shark Sep 10 '26

Didn't Sony basically beg Kojima to make this game?

As long as it comes to PC though, I don't care.

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u/nsheehan28 Sep 10 '26

Sony saw the bill and said fuck that

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u/IkkitsClaw Sep 10 '26

Do PS and Xbox have some sort of agreement that one of them will go stupid every couple of generations and then swap.

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u/AlusiveTripod Sep 10 '26

The change in leadership of these two has definitely made a difference in how these two companies are seen from 2020 up and till now the sentiment change is night and day

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u/Mira_22 Sep 10 '26

Maybe because Kojima makes sub par games that are way over budget and underperform? Most glorified developer who drops nothing but mid games.

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u/SeikoWIS Sep 10 '26

I have lost confidence in both Sony and Xbox at this point.

PC and Nintendo is the way.

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u/Mayflex Sep 10 '26

I've been a lifelong fan of PlayStation, it was always the lineup of exclusives that made PS my console of choice.

I genuinely think that the PS5 generation has killed my love for PlayStation. Which is such a shame because it started so strong. The showcases in June and September 2020 where we saw Miles morales, Ratchet and Clank, GT7, sackboy, Horizon 2, GOW ragnarok, and the demons souls remake had me so excited for the PS5. All of the above games came out within the first year of the generation, (aside from GOW being delayed). After that, I was excited for the "phase 2" of exclusives. I was aware it would be a couple years before all the studios were ready to release new games again, but I was happy waiting. Sony however, made pretty much every single one of their studios start working on live service games for the next 3/4 years. Even studios that have no experience with live service games, spent years working on them. After Sony realises that A. It's not what fans want, and B. They're not turning out to be good games because the studios are built around making single player games, they cancel a majority of them. As a result, most of their first party studios are back to the drawing board, right in the middle of the console generation. And over the following 2 years, sony starts killing off their beloved studios one by one. And then they kill physical media, And now this. I genuinely can't believe the level of mismanagement Sony have been displaying over the past 5 years. It has killed the brand.

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u/Victorythagr8 Sep 10 '26

A lot of console user has seen how arrogant Sony was with the PS3 after the PS2 success. It is how the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 for most of the generation.

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u/BoopsTheSnoot_ Sep 10 '26

Common Sony L

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u/jacowab Sep 10 '26

All the shitty investors who know nothing about games finally gave up on Xbox and shited to Sony letting Xbox finally fucking breath and they have some actual good ideas for the future, meanwhile the first thing these investors do is look at what they can gut for more profit and they kill disks.

Honestly at this point I'm with Sony, fuck disks, I hope the next Xbox comes with cartrages.

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u/Jules-Car3499 Sep 10 '26

I hate Sony so much.

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u/winterman666 Sep 10 '26

I used to love PS1, from the PS1. But the PS4 pissed me off when they made PS+ mandatory to play online. I saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship to PC. 10 years later, and it's only gotten worse and worse

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u/M4rshmall0wMan Sep 10 '26

People here are automatically assuming that Sony fumbled the bag. We have no idea what happened behind the scenes. We barely even know what Physint is. There are so many possibilities other than “Sony leadership is stupid”:

- Maybe Physint’s development is troubled and Sony saw the writing on the wall

- Maybe Kojima wanted Physint to use the same cloud infrastructure as OD, and Sony couldn’t provide it.

- Maybe Xbox swooped in with a huge offering that Sony didn’t feel was worth it to match. If Physint doesn’t recoup the investment, then Microsoft would end up the loser.

- Maybe there was a disagreement about development timelines or console exclusivity.

I’m not saying this to glaze Sony. Just to remind y’all that video game development is so much more complicated than just “auteur = good.” Overinvesting in a game is just as bad as underinvesting in it. We’ll just have to wait and see how this pans out before we declare winners and losers.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan Sep 10 '26

Sony bad Kojima good

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u/Zalvren Sep 10 '26

You know the announcements are just coordinated right? It's not like Xbox did the deal in two minutes lol.

Sony ditched the game back in June

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u/YoruXXV Sep 10 '26

Two sides of the shit coin.

Neither of these two is better or earning more goodwill than the other, if anything, with the trajectory of both Xbox and PS, console gaming is going to be completely dead in a decade from now.

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u/Miguelwastaken Sep 10 '26

Never thought I’d be going back to Xbox… but here we are.

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u/Training-Republic301 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

XBOX owner here. Hope we get Death Stranding 2 soon.

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u/ShinobiOfTheWind Sep 10 '26

Not sure about the soon part as it pertains to contractual obligations already in place (undisclosed timed Console exclusivity period), but you will, 100% get it, along with an NSW2 port as well.

The IP's ownership is now back at KJP. It's just a question of when.

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u/MarkLarrz Sep 10 '26

Where does Norman Reedus fit into all of this?

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u/cultoftheinfected Sep 10 '26

Sony was the top dog for a while, practically untouchable. They got comfortable, lazy, vain. They made decisions not worrying about the consequences because they had no competition. Now Xbox is slowly coming back, making smart decisions, pivoting. Sony still thinks they're top dogs right now. Hopefully Xbox continues on the right track and hurts Sony. Make Sony have to change what they're doing.

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u/OutlandishnessSea119 Sep 10 '26

Lol, this is great for xbox

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u/Mrhat070 Sep 10 '26

Can somebody provide some context lore on this? Why is it a big deal that they are "breaking up" with kojima?

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u/Solid-Hound Sep 10 '26

Fuck me, so much for having shit to look forward too.

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u/_has-been_ Sep 10 '26

It’s seriously like Sony was bought by private equity or something

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u/PapaYoppa Sep 10 '26

So is it going multiplat or is it now an Xbox exclusive?

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u/AlusiveTripod Sep 10 '26

With the aggressive direction Xbox is taking recently it's mostly going to be a Xbox console exclusive with a PC release

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u/person_no_179403 Sep 10 '26

As a MGS fan what an L but also I am glad it's still releasing

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u/panicradio316 Sep 10 '26

It's a shame that, with news like this, we're never been given a reason as to why it happened.

I know it's standard procedure and probably even legally not allowed, but it's just a chore to come up with answers yourself.

But let's see, this story should have high chances of being covered and unfolded by perhaps Jason Schreier or else in the near future.

So clearly without any background knowledge abd simply as a fan and gamer reading it, I think it's awful news for Playstation.

Despite Death Stranding may have not been achieving the sales Sony perhaps had hoped for, it was critically acclaimed and it did not have Kojima's "Tactical Espionage" tag under it.

I honestly think it's a bad decision for various reasons. And most certainly a big reason less for me to buy into PS6.